Glenn Beck: Montana here we come


Montana Governor Brian Schweitzer

Glenn: From Radio City in Midtown Manhattan, third most listened to show in all of America. Hello, you sick, twisted freak. Welcome to the program. I'm glad you're here. I told you last week that Montana, somebody was drawing up a bill or -- I don't know if it has been introduced into the Capitol yet, but this is not a movement of secession. This is a movement that says if the Supreme Court says that gun ownership is a collective right, it would violate the State's compact with the United States government and Montana wouldn't have to be a state anymore. It would declare their status as a state as null and void because it would be a violation of the contract that they made when they came into the union.

Now, I talked about this and I got more mail on this than anything I've talked about in I don't know how long and I'm telling you, if this would be true -- and I don't if it -- we'll find out in a second -- if this would be true, profit values in Montana will sky rocket because it will be known as a state that takes the Constitution seriously. This is also the state where we've talked to the governor of couple of times and they want to move coal to oil but he says the United States government is blocking their way. The governor is on with us now. Governor Schweitzer, how are you?

Governor Schweitzer: I'm all right. Listen, gun control in Montana means hitting what you've been shooting at. I'm endorsed by the ERA and I own more guns than I need and fewer than I want.

Glenn: You're a governor at my own heart when it comes to guns. So, have you heard about this?

Governor Schweitzer: Oh, yeah. You people get to lawyering -- as soon as some words come up, you've got lawyers coming out of the woodwork. We're not interested in secession here in Montana. The bottom line is --

Glenn: Wait a minute. You're lowering the property values.

Governor Schweitzer: You know, we've got too many big shots coming here, like you, from the East Coast and West Coast. All right. We're just trying to take care of the beautiful state on the planet.

Glenn: So, in other words, you don't want people like me living in your state?

Governor Schweitzer: Well, if you cozy up to me, I might get you a ranch and fix it up with a few goats and chickens.

Glenn: Because I have to tell you, my family, we are looking at Wyoming, Idaho, and Montana, and Utah. We're looking at possibly find, someplace in that part of the country and when I heard about the gun -- when I heard that Montana would actually take the government taking away gun rights as a serious offense and say, do you know what? We're not playing that game, you know, it was No. 1 on my list and a lot of people's list of saying, wait a minute. There's a state after my own heart.

Governor Schweitzer: Well, we're not going to lose our gun rights in Montana. You can bet on that, but I can assure you of this: Montana will continue to take the lead to make America energy independent. We're not going to allow dictators to push us around anymore. We have an infinite supply of energy in this country. We just have a finite supply of resolve to get it right.

Glenn: So, Governor, they are today debating cap and trade and all three of the presidential candidates want cap and trade. You know and I know EPA estimate says it will increase gas by $1.50 a gallon. Two weeks ago Congress decided they were going to put the polar bear or the administration decided to put the polar bear and threatened species list. They're not doing anything. They're not doing anything to help on this energy front.

Governor Schweitzer: We're already giving $2 a gallon to dictators who are trying to destroy our way of life. Look, I support the concerns that people world have with carbon dioxide but we have the technology right now to produce all of our energy domestically, to drive all of your cars, run of all trains and plains, light all of your light bulbs without importing oil from them and we can sequester our CO2.

Glenn: Governor, we're not doing it. What are you -- what are we to do? The people are looking for someone to lead. So, what is it that we can do because we're with you?

Governor Schweitzer: Here's what I'd say to you. We don't ask much from Congress and they don't deliver much. Most of us as governors are building our own energy proposals. We're putting together our own energy independence because God help us if Congress was the only ones responsible to save this country. Here's a couple of things that we would need from Congress. There are some certain things that have to be passed at a Federal level. Otherwise, you create problems with competition between states in a bad way. In other words, people will just run over the border to do something because you can't do it in another state.

Glenn: Sure.

Governor Schweitzer: So, a couple of things. Now, just give me two minutes and I'll explain how we'll do it. No. 1, Congress passes two pieces of legislation. The first one would be a 15 percent tax credit for any consumer that buys a plug in hybrid car SUV or pickup that gets a minimum of 40 miles on a charge and runs on electricity for the first 40 miles. Let me tell you what that would do. Pacific Northwest Labs, a primary contractor of the Department of Energy, has already studied this. They found that we could decrease the consumption of oil in all of our transportation fleet by 83 percent if we had plug-in hybrids the first 40 miles. 93 percent of all the cars in America drive less than 40 miles a day. That means we could run the whole fleet on electricity 93 percent of the time.


Second, every utility in America, they must buy electricity from anybody on the system that they sell electricity to, so that when you drive home from work, you plug your car in, you walk in, you turn on your light and the electricity comes from the charge power in your car. You make your meal with your battery in your car and in the middle of the night when we have excess electricity three times as much electricity grid capacity as we actually need because we build this grid for today, your car recharges. The next day, if you don't need a full 40 miles, you start selling electricity right back into the grid for three or four times what you paid for it. We make every consumer a better consumer, a bar capitalist. We couldn't have to put up one copper wire. Northwest, this same lab, they found that we have the grid capacity to level the electrons and then, with coal gasification, places like Montana, with wind power, solar power, we can tell the dictators to boil in their own oil.

Glenn: Okay. Here's the thing. You are sitting there on a butt load of coal. Cap and trade, if it doesn't pass this time, which it won't, it's going to pass the next time because there is $3 trillion -- I'm sorry -- $7 trillion in spending that the Congress wants to do according to the "New York Times" and $3 trillion in gravy on cap and trade that the Congress can't wait to get their hands on. So, they're going to do it. What's happening on this is states like yours, which will be producing energy through coal, estates like West Virginia, Utah, and -- will be paying butt loads of money in cap and trade costs. Meanwhile, states that don't produce their own energy, like California, will be living off the fat of the land. They will -- you guys will be taking your money and transferring it to California. How are you going to produce electricity when the government won't allow you to use the coal that we have?

Governor Schweitzer: Here's the deal. I don't agree with cap and trade. I have a better idea, one that's better for this country, better for the world, and it's simply this: I wouldn't give another nickel to the Federal government because they'll find some play to pee it away. What I would do is I would say instead of a cap and trade system, folks, I want you to understand what cap and trade means. If you're a big utility that's been using coal over the last 100 years, Congress is going to franchise you to produce that quantity of CO2. You could turn around and sell out of the business and put a trillion dollars in your pocket. What we're doing is we're shifting wealth from the population as a whole to a few utilities and it's not going to do a dang thing about developing new technology. Here's what I would do: Those of us who produce carbon dioxide, I would put a technology fee of $12.50 per ton. I would use 100 percent of that money as a technology fee. I wouldn't give it to the Federal government. We would create a quasi-private corporation that would do all the research and development. Those of us who pay in will own the intellectual property and we'll be able to sell this technology all over the world in China, in India, and other places that are producing great quantities of CO2 and the consumer, the consumer will not see their energy prices go up because that $12.50 a ton, we can start decreasing the carbon dioxide emissions by at least 5 percent per year. It won't increase the cost of your energy, and we'll develop the technologies that the be giving the greatest boom to America's industry since the industrial revolution. What's wrong with that?

Glenn: By the way, in case you don't know, Governor Schweitzer is a Democrat. Governor, that sounds great, but nobody will do that because nobody in Washington will be able to get fat off of it. It doesn't give them a dividend.

Governor Schweitzer: There's 60 politicians in Washington DC and their job is to keep their front feet and nose in the feed trough. What we need is people to rise up and say we've had enough. We're in an oil war. I don't want my kids to go to another one. There is no reason we ought to be dependent on a fuel that we can't produce in this country. Enough is enough and we need a change.

Glenn: Here's the thing. Germany now plans to build 27 coal fired stations by 2020. Did you catch that? 27 coal fire electrical plants by 2020. They are building them again in Europe because they know that they're in trouble with oil. The people who invented coal to oil are doing it again and they're going to start burning coal.

Governor Schweitzer: You've got it wrong. We don't burn coil when we use that technology.

Glenn: No, but they are. They are.

Governor Schweitzer: You put the coal in a pressurized chamber. You remove the gas, the CH4. The CO2 can be pumped right back into the earth. It's zero pollution. The methane case will be used to make recollect, even fertilizer out of it and we have enough coal in this country to fuel all of America for 200 years.

Glenn: All right. Governor, be straight. Why hasn't this happened?

Governor Schweitzer: Insecurity in the energy business. Here's what -- if you're in the business of building these plants or you own the coal and you've got Congress back there in Washington DC deciding who's going to pay and who's going to get and it hasn't been determined who's the getters and the who's the givers, if it hasn't been decided whether you're going to get screwed by this technology or you're going to be the one who profits, I can't move forward. Everybody wants certainty. Do you know what? Even if they pass a bad CO2 law, we're going to start building these plants all across the Rocky Mountain west but we need some kind of certainty. You know, when they pass laws in Washington DC something that started out as an easy proposition one paragraph long, suddenly it's 7,000 pages long. What we need in the energy business is certainly. I want a level playing field. We can beat the rest of the world here in Montana with wind four, can cowl gas fix. With solar power. We've just got to know what the rules are.

Glenn: Do you think you're going to get any rules?

Governor Schweitzer: Not this year. Hell, nothing is going to happen between now and the political election but a lot of talk.

Glenn: You're closer to the people than most politicians. Those in Washington don't get it. What are you paying in your state for gasoline?

Governor Schweitzer: $3.87 for regular. Worse yet, keys sell is $4.58 a gallon.

Glenn: How much longer do you think the people of F your state are going to set around with these politicians doing?

Governor Schweitzer: We're not going to take it any longer. That's why we're developing wind power. We just discovered the biggest onshore oil government in the last 20 years in Montana and western North Dakota. We could produce the energy in this country. Infinite possibilities, finite ideas.

Glenn: This is exactly why I called you about the gun thing, because people are tired of it and they just want to go -- did you read Atlas Shrug by any chance?

Governor Schweitzer: No.

Glenn: You should read at lag shrug. People are at the point of atlas shrug. They want to find a place where they can be unleashed. I talked to a guy about an hour ago in Seattle. He said, Glenn, I love my country. I can't take it anymore. I've been offered a job to go build house over in Russia and I'm going to take it because I'm a contractor and I can't do my work here gym.

Governor Schweitzer: Glenn, let me tell you something. The Federal government told us, all 50 states, that you have to have an identification program so that it's a Federal ID that's issued by every state. It will have a data street on the back of it so when you get on the plane, they swipe that, they know where weather when you got on the plane, where you went and how you got home. 46 governors sent a letter to home land security that said, oh, yeah, we agree. We're going to do it. Four of us told them to go to hell. In fact, we are not in Montana. We will never implement the real ID. We will never allow the Federal government to possess the data that tells them where we've been, how we got there, who we visited with, and how we got home. In Montana we live free.

Glenn: So, if they say that guns are a collective right and not an individual, what Montana do?

Governor Schweitzer: I'm not a lawyer, but we're not going to allow the Federal government or anybody else to come in here and infringe on our second amendment rights. Everybody in Montana has a gun. Every one of us like guns and we don't think the Federal government has the right. We believe the Constitution is very clear and we're just not going to allow the government toe come in here and force us to register our guns or tell us we have to get an insurance policy if you own a pistol.

Glenn: .

Glenn: Property values will sky rocket, if they are wishy-washy on the gun rights and you really mean that in Montana, you will see your property values sky rocket because there are people all over the country that are sick and tired of the Federal government telling them how to live.

Governor Schweitzer: Oh, Glenn. I make a living owning ranches. You're a guy that talks on the radio.

Glenn: You watch. Governor, bye bye. I don't think he understands. I don't think he gets that they're going to sky rocket, not go down.

Stu: He's saying they're fine as they are. You know, I mean, when you're in Montana, you don't want lots of people coming in there.

Glenn: No, you don't.

Stu: You want to maintain the second amendment rights but not tell anyone.

Glenn: Yeah, you do. You want to say -- you want a sign on the border that says, we believe in the second amendment. I would turn around if I were you.

CNN reporter Jim Acosta was confronted at CPAC by The Federalist reporter David Marcus with a valid question: "When are you guys going to start covering Cuomo?" His answer — or, really, lack of an answer — perfectly demonstrates why he was earlier surrounded by CPAC attendees chanting, "CNN sucks!"

On the "Glenn Beck Radio Program" Tuesday, Glenn and producer Stu Burguiere react to a video clip of the exchange with Acosta, as well as the mainstream media's double standards when it comes to Democratic New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo.

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Glenn Beck can't help but wonder, "What is wrong with us?" in light of the Left's latest move — canceling six Dr. Seuss books due to "hurtful and wrong" illustrations — that takes America one step closer to complete insanity. And now, school districts are jumping on board after President Joe Biden seems to have dropped Dr. Seuss from the White House's annual "Read Across America Day" proclamation.

On the radio program Tuesday, Glenn argued that deleting books is the perfect example of fascism, and asked when we as a country will finally realize it.

"They are banning Dr. Seuss books. How much more do you need to see before all of America wakes up? ... This is fascism!" Glenn said. "We don't destroy books. What is wrong with us, America?"

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Former Democratic presidential candidate and Hawaii representative Tulsi Gabbard and Glenn Beck don't agree much on policy, but they're in lockstep on principles.

On "The Glenn Beck Podcast" this week, Tulsi spoke with Glenn about one of her last acts in Congress, introducing the "Protect Women's Sports Act," which she says would "strengthen, clarify, and uphold the intent of Title IX to provide a level playing field for girls and women in sports." But since then, the Biden administration has gone in the opposite direction, and has supported allowing biological men to compete in women's sports.

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Later this week, former President Trump will attend CPAC and give his first major policy appearance since leaving office. Sources close to the President reveal he will focus on "the future of the Republican Party and the conservative movement."

The future of the GOP is a question that demands real discussion before elections in 2022 and 2024. Right now, I can see three possible answers for how you act:

  1. Those in power and senior positions will ignore the reasons behind Donald Trump winning in 2016. They will be vindicated in their minds because they outlasted him, as they view DC as a job for life. These leaders will go back to business as usual and seek forgiveness from the left, hoping for unity and acceptance in the future.
  2. The second outcome is another section of the party that is understandably very angry over the left's Presidents treatment. They still support and believe in Trump. They think it's time to take off the gloves and treat Biden/the left exactly how they treated Trump.
  3. The few policy positions offered in public will be centered solely around opposing the left. They will also make the case how the left suck, are dangerous, and how you need them in power. The next four years are merely a countdown for Trump to run again and right the wrong of 2020.
  4. The third outcome is very similar to the second, but with one key difference. While they appreciate everything Trump accomplished while in office, they feel it's time to unite behind another candidate.
Question

Which of these three positions will work best for the American people? Which helps built a political base for elections in both 2022 and 2024?

If you seek to help save America, it is critical to do some soul searching. Whether you love or hate him, Donald Trump got 75 million votes and made advancements in key demographics. What did he do well that you can develop further? In what areas was he poor, and how can you improve?

I want to raise six principled points everyone on the right should be forced to consider in the run-up to 2024.

1 - Understanding American Exceptionalism

FACT: America is an exceptional nation. If you read enough of world history, you will find ample evidence that America acted in ways that made it unique and significantly different from other countries in the past and modern times. These reasons must be understood and promoted through the culture and body politic.

One of those reasons is the layout of your Declaration of Independence. If you look around politics today, you will see people on all political sides telling you what they hate, why the other side is the enemy, and how they must be defeated.

In the Declaration of Independence, Jefferson also made that case against the English when he listed 27 grievances against the King. So how is the layout key? It took Jefferson 357 words to get to those grievances. Your Declaration is your mission statement: it tells everyone in the world what America aspires to be. It states the belief that all were created equal, all had certain rights that come directly from God, and that it is the government's job to protect rights -- not give people rights.

The left is successfully painting everyone on the right to be a terrorist who enjoyed the Capitol Hill riots. If you ever want to win another election, it will be critical to explain what you stand for to the American people.

After all, ask yourself which makes you the most passionate to vote - removing someone from office or voting for a vision and change you believe in?

2 - The Constitution

Is there a better place to start this vision than the Constitution? Yes, it is mostly ignored today by those in power and is only referenced by politicians and media when it fits a narrative.

The Constitution is a beautiful and complex document but is primarily based on a straightforward principle. The government should be extremely limited in its power, but it should be as close to the people as possible where there is a clear need for government. Who can argue with this principle?

Who wants someone they have never met, dictating how they live their life?

This is why the Constitution grants the President no real power, and gives Congress 18 clauses of power, listed under Article 1, Section 8. Any and every power not mentioned there belongs at the state level.

3 - Finances

The power structure in DC has changed many times over the last twenty years, with both parties having the opportunity to rule the different federal branches. There have been two periods where one party controlled all the power in DC:

  • 2008-2010: Obama / Dem
  • 2016-2018: Trump / GOP

Despite these changes, your government continually grows, you continue to spend money you don't have, and in ten out of the last thirteen years, you have added over $1,000,000,000,000 to your national debt, which now sits just under $28 trillion. Does this seem sustainable to you? Of course not, but sadly your finances only get worse.

America has revenue of over $3.2 trillion every year, yet DC has not passed a budget since 2008. Can you imagine any business running that way? Do you think Apple, Amazon, or Disney have a budget? It is time to get America on a path to financial sustainability, work towards a balanced budget, and explain to the American people how you will achieve it.

4 - Taxes

Do you remember discussing taxes during the Tea Party?

We used to make the simple moral case to the American people: any money you earn is yours, you should use it to plan your life, and the government has no right to take it from you. This was so successful around 2012 that Herman Cain ran for President with one primary policy: the 9-9-9 plan.

If America is to return to prosperity after Covid, lower taxes and a simpler tax code must be a central theme.

5 - Cutting Government

Look at the size of the US government in 2021. Are you happy? Can you name the numerous departments? Is it now the freedom-loving Americans' position that agencies like Education, Energy, EPA, and Commerce are constitutional bodies of government and are well-run?

How about the IRS, which targeted Tea-Party groups under President Obama? Do they deserve support, or is it time to start sharing a vision of the departments that should be abolished?

This principle used to be a big part of the Conservative platform. It played a massive role in 2012 when Rick Perry ran for President. His campaign was destroyed in 45 short seconds when he could not remember the three agencies he would abolish.

Maybe it's time to refresh this debate but change the parameters. How about we discuss the agencies that should be kept?

6 - Bill of Rights

Today, the Bill of Rights is under constant attack. The far-left/woke mob hates free speech, and they seek to cancel anyone with an opposing view. However, the attacks on the Bill of Rights don't always come from the left.

America has a second amendment that guarantees you the right to bear arms. The last time the GOP held both houses of Congress and the Presidency, they banned bump stocks - but who really NEEDS a bump stock?

As the years have passed, some have admitted they are open to red flag laws. Is this still the case?

While the second amendment may be under attack, it is clear the fourth amendment is dead. Regardless of which party holds power in DC, the NSA is given continuous ability to spy on Americans. The simple, principled case from Rand Paul of "get a warrant" always falls on deaf ears.

The Bill of Rights should be a unifying document for most Americans, as the principles are self-evident and a significant part of any freedom platform going forward.

Conclusion

America will face significant challenges over the coming years. As the government continues to grow, the far left get more hostile, and central planners seek a great reset. If you share my concern, then now is the time to forget our tribes and ignore the debate on who should be President in 2024.

It's time to work hard to build a platform by raising a banner of bold colors, not pale pastels. We must share a clear vision to the American people of a bright future where they are free, prosperous, and can pursue their happiness.

When the platform is built and successful, people can identify the best candidate to run in 2024.

"First, you win the argument, and then you win the election." — Margaret Thatcher

Jonathon Dunne is a keynote speaker, weekly podcast host on Blaze Media, and published author on major platforms such as The Blaze, Glenn Beck, Libertarian Republic, Western Journalism, and Constitution. Since 2012, he has reached millions with his message of American exceptionalism.

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