Glenn Beck: The Forgotten Man


The Forgotten Man: A New History of the Great Depression

GLENN: You know, I'm watching the news, I don't even know what the heck is happening anymore. I saw on Drudge Report this morning that they are now looking for global regulations on banking and I'm thinking, oh, that doesn't sound good. I don't know -- uh-uh, I don't -- no, I don't think so. I don't like that idea. And I told you now for the last year, it reminds me, everything that we're doing, we did during the Great Depression. Obama is FDR 2 and the way you were taught history, you are probably thinking, well, FDR was pretty good; he had those fireside chats, which he probably couldn't have if he lived in Seattle now. But FDR, he changed America. And not in a good way. He changed America. Amity Shlaes is the author of "The Forgotten Man" which I think, it's out in paper back, isn't it now, amendment?

SHLAES: Yes, it is.

GLENN: And it's a fantastic book and I've been telling people you've got to buy this book. You know what I love is amendment and I traded e-mails about a week ago and she said, I just, I really think this is a book that should be studied, it should -- you know, I really hope that the educational system will pick this book up and use it and I'm thinking, no, no, no, no, no, no. If you name it The Forgotten Manifesto, then they would pick it up in schools, but I think this is -- there's too much common sense in this, Amity.

SHLAES: Actually I'm going to be teaching it all summer to high schoolteachers. Am I lucky? Is that great? Yeah.

GLENN: Aren't they going to be locked up in prison for teaching this history?

SHLAES: They are going to read "The Forgotten Man." So that's really exciting. So we have a lot of new material for teachers and readers in the book like time line at the front and casted characters at the front because it makes it easier to read.

GLENN: Okay. I want to ask you about, because we had the anniversary of going off not the gold standard but we used to write contracts and at any time somebody could say, hey, I'd like this in gold, please, right?

SHLAES: That's right.

GLENN: Right. And FDR said, no, not so much. And you say that changed everything. How?

SHLAES: Well, one of the things when you look at the oil price today, you are seeing at $4 and so on, $4 at the pump. What is that about? A lot of it is inflation. It's not just demand for oil. It's that there's too much money sloshing around. We all sense inflation. Even when you buy a plane ticket, you decide should I buy the plane ticket now or should I wait? How much more is it going to be in October? And that's a lot to do with the economic anxiety that we have today.

Well, in the old days there was a protection against that. You could write in any contract, I get the equivalent of this in gold. Gold measured by how much gold is worth today, the day that I signed the contract. And people loved those contracts, even the U.S. Government used them in World War I with the liberty lines. It said we promise to pay you in gold, gold worth what it's worth today. And it was the every man hedge against economic uncertainty against inflation and now when you've got that and, oh, they are changing things but I don't know what I can do about it and you are sort of primitively, vaguely, I don't know, getting adjustable rate mortgages or writing little clauses into things, they have FDR Bandit in June 1933. First he inflated and then he took away every man's defense from inflation. And you know, Glenn, this period is a lot like the Seventies, too, in terms of uncertain and we know what our parents went through in that period with their houses and their loans and their inability to sell the house. So that was inflation, a lot of that.

GLENN: Okay. But we're in a different -- I mean, everybody keeps saying that we're going through the 1970s again. I mean, I shouldn't say everybody. There's a lot of people that I talk to that are much more bullish than I am and they say, well, we're going through the Seventies, it's the stagflation thing. But Amity, I look at what is coming down the Pike from Obama or McCain even with the cap and trade and the global warming stuff and everything that is happening right now. And now this story that they want to have global regulations, I just think we are headed down the same road that we were in the 1930s.

SHLAES: Well, if you want to have political, really bad news, what you do is you get a President and a congress who all agree that government should be bigger.

GLENN: But that's what we've got. That's what we're headed for.

SHLAES: Exactly. And if you have not only Obama but also congress, you see how desperate the Republicans are. They are just trying to hope they can maybe filibuster, right?

GLENN: Right.

SHLAES: They are not hoping that they can control congress. Forget that. They are just counting their votes so they can object to things currently. That's where they're at. So you imagine a very strong Democratic picture, and for good or bad, the Democratic party feels like it has great license right now with the Kennedy anniversaries and the illnesses of Senator Kennedy in the past and lots of New Deal nostalgia, New Deal narcissism, it's about me, it's about my feelings, it's about the New Deal. You are right that all bets are off. There's no Ruben moment yet in the Obama campaign.

GLENN: Wait a second. Amity again in your book what I learned was the depression was elongated by, what, five times? It was elongated in America because you couldn't count on -- business couldn't do business because they couldn't count on anybody. They couldn't count on government. And that's what I hear from all of these people who run global corporations, giant, that want to do business here in America, they want to have the energy supply that they need, they want to be able to build coal to oil. They want to be able to build nukes. They will build any car that America needs to be built, but they won build it because they are afraid if they retool their manufacturing unit, if they go and spend all of this money doing whatever it is that congress will turn around and change the rules on them and they will be out billions and billions of dollars and they will collapse.

SHLAES: That's right. So what are we concerned about the most? It's the arrogance. It's a sense that they can go in and do whatever they like and, hey, experimentation is good. And that comes right out of the New Deal. I talk a lot about in the book Roosevelt saying, oh, let's do bold, persistent experimentation. Sounds fun. Somebody had to do something. But that spirit is there now. You'll hear about the importance of experimentation a lot in the coming year. And markets don't like that. I mean, we all know that. We watch markets television. Markets don't like uncertainty. Even good news can be bad news if it's really unexpected and you are not set up for it, right? So that is a factor that's making everyone so anxious right now. We have no idea what the limit of the political ambition is.

GLENN: So Amity, what does the average person do? I swear to you everybody can feel it in their gut. Everybody knows we got trouble much and we can make it through it. We always make it through it. It just depends on how bad the down side gets. We'll make it. We're going to be fine. Everybody's gut says there's a problem, but what people don't have is an answer. What does the average person do? They can't vote for either of these clowns. I mean, we're voting for the lesser of two evils and we know what's coming. So what does the average person do?

SHLAES: I think one, inform yourself a bit about history, but you let your candidate know that you know about the past, that you done want them to repeat that. Two, you -- I don't give investment advice but I am concerned about inflation. So you look for things that can defend you from inflation. You don't borrow too much. I think it sounds so childish and so unexciting, but I'm really concerned about schools, you know, that we can teach this stuff in our schools so kids can know the picture. Americans are hungry for history. I can't believe -- 

GLENN: You know what? You know what? Americans are hungry for actual history. The history that we weren't taught. Your book started me down a path that opened up doors for me that I had never even known. I didn't even know they existed in history. I had no idea, Amity, that this is the way things really were. You look at these things, after hearing stories from your grandparents, but they were -- I mean, the press was really controlled back then. I had no idea. And I started open -- this opened up doors and I started opening up other doors and looking at other scholars and other history, and I have to tell you it is amazing. And you are exactly right. When Americans understand true history, when they aren't afraid of opening up doors and saying, well, what's behind this one, and they look at it and they stare it down and they see what true history is, they will be able to see the clear right and wrong. They will know what their politicians are doing right now and what the consequence of those actions are. Right now we're just like, oh, yeah, well, somebody's got to do something. Yeah, not that. That's already been tried. That's already been done. Doesn't work out well in the end. Amity, thank you so much. We'll talk to you again.

SHLAES: Oh, thank you.

GLENN: Amity Shlaes, she is the author of The Forgotten Man and it's now in paperback.

Carter Page, a former advisor to Donald Trump's 2016 presidential campaign, found himself at the center of the Russia probe and had his reputation and career destroyed by what we now know were lies from our own intelligence system and the media.

On the TV show Thursday, Page joined Glenn Beck to speak out about how he became the subject of illegal electronic surveillance by the FBI for more than two years, and revealed the extent of the corruption that has infiltrated our legal systems and our country as a whole.

"To me, the bigger issue is how much damage this has done to our country," Page told Glenn. "I've been very patient in trying to ... find help with finding solutions and correcting this terrible thing which has happened to our country, our judicial system, DOJ, FBI -- these once-great institutions. And my bigger concern is the fact that, although we keep taking these steps forward in terms of these important findings, it really remains the tip of the iceberg."

Page was referencing the report by Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz, which revealed that the FBI made "at least 17 significant errors or omissions" in its Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) applications for warrants to spy on Page, a U.S. citizen.

"I think this needs to be attacked from all angles," Glenn said. "The one angle I'm interested in from you is, please tell me you have the biggest badass attorneys that are hungry, starving, maybe are a little low to pay their Mercedes payments right now, and are just gearing up to come after the government and the media. Are they?"

I can confirm that that is the case," Page replied.

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On Wednesday's TV show, Glenn Beck sat down with radio show host, author, political commentator, and film critic, Michael Medved.

Michael had an interesting prediction for the 2020 election outcome: a brokered convention by the DNC will usher in former First Lady Michelle Obama to run against President Donald Trump.

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On Thursday's "Glenn Beck Radio Program," BlazeTV's White House correspondent Jon Miller described the current situation in Virginia after Gov. Ralph Northam (D) declared a state of emergency and banned people carrying guns at Capitol Square just days before a pro-Second-Amendment rally scheduled on Martin Luther King Jr. Day.

Jon told Glenn that Gov. Northam and the Virginia Legislature are "trying to deprive the people of their Second Amendment rights" but the citizens of Virginia are "rising up" to defend their constitutional rights.

"I do think this is the flashpoint," Jon said. "They [Virginia lawmakers] are saying, 'You cannot exercise your rights ... and instead of trying to de-escalate the situation, we are putting pressure. We're trying to escalate it and we're trying to enrage the citizenry even more'."

Glenn noted how Gov. Northam initially blamed the threat of violence from Antifa for his decision to ban weapons but quickly changed his narrative to blame "white supremacists" to vilify the people who are standing up for the Second Amendment and the Constitution.

"What he's doing is, he's making all all the law-abiding citizens of Virginia into white supremacists," Glenn said.

"Sadly, that's exactly right," Jon replied. "And I think he knows exactly what he's doing."

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Ryan: Trump Louisiana Finale

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Part One. Part Two. Part Three.

At the end of Trump rallies, I would throw on my Carhartt jacket, sneak out of the press area, then blend in with everyone as they left, filing out through swinging doors.

Often, someone held the door open for me. Just 30 minutes earlier, the same person had most likely had most likely hissed at me for being a journalist. And now they were Sunday smiles and "Oh, yes, thank you, sir" like some redneck concierge.

People flooded out of the arena with the stupidity of a fire drill mishap, desperate to survive.

The air smacked you as soon as you crossed the threshold, back into Louisiana. And the lawn was a wasteland of camping chairs and coolers and shopping bags and to-go containers and soda cans and articles of clothing and even a few tents.

In Monroe, in the dark, the Trump supporters bobbled over mounds of waste like elephants trying to tiptoe. And the trash was as neutral to them as concrete or grass. They plodded over it because it, an object, had somehow gotten in their way.

It did not matter that they were responsible for this wreckage.Out in the sharp-edged moonlight, rally-goers hooted and yapped and boogied and danced, and the bbq food truck was all smoke and paper plates.

They were even more pumped than they had been before the rally, like 6,000 eight year olds who'd been chugging Mountain Dew for hours. Which made Donald Trump the father, the trooper, God of the Underworld, Mr. Elite, Sheriff on high horse, the AR-15 sticker of the family.

Ritualistic mayhem, all at once. And, there in Louisiana, Trump's supporters had gotten a taste of it. They were all so happy. It bordered on rage.

Still, I could not imagine their view of America. Worse, after a day of strange hostilities, I did not care.

My highest priority, my job as a reporter, was to care. To understand them and the world that they inhabit. But I did not give a damn and I never wanted to come back.

Worst of all, I would be back. In less than a week.

Was this how dogs felt on the 4th of July? Hunched in a corner while everyone else gets drunk and launches wailing light into the sky? configurations of blue and red and white.

It was 10:00 p.m. and we'd been traveling since 11:00 a.m., and we still had 5 hours to go and all I wanted was a home, my home, any home, just not here, in the cold sweat of this nowhere. Grey-mangled sky. No evidence of planes or satellites or any proof of modern-day. Just century-old bridges that trains shuffled over one clack at a time.

And casinos, all spangles and neon like the 1960s in Las Vegas. Kitchy and dumb, too tacky for lighthearted gambling. And only in the nicer cities, like Shreveport, which is not nice at all.

And swamp. Black water that rarely shimmered. Inhabited by gadflies and leeches and not one single fish that was pretty.

Full of alligators, and other killing types. The storks gnawing on frogs, the vultures never hungry. The coyotes with nobody to stop them and so much land to themselves. The roaches in the wild, like tiny wildebeests.

Then, the occasional deer carcass on the side of the road, eyes splayed as if distracted, tongue out, relaxed but empty. The diseased willows like skeletons in hairnets. The owls that never quit staring. A million facets of wilderness that would outlive us all.

Because Nature has poise. It thrives and is original.

Because silence is impossible. Even in an anechoic chamber, perfectly soundproofed, you can hear your own heartbeat, steady as a drum. A never-ending war.

I put "Headache" by Grouper on repeat as we glided west. We were deadlocked to asphalt, rubber over tarface.

And I thought about lines from a Rita Dove poem titled "I have been a stranger in a strange land"

He was off cataloging the universe, probably,
pretending he could organize
what was clearly someone else's chaos.

Wasn't that exactly what I was doing? Looking for an impossible answer, examining every single accident, eager for meaning? telling myself, "If it happens and matters the next year, in America, I want to be there, or to know what it means. I owe it to whoever cares to listen."

Humans are collectors and I had gone overboard.

Because maybe this wasn't even my home. These landmarks, what did they mean? Was I obvious here? When I smiled, did I trick them into believing that I felt some vague sense of approval? Or did my expressions betray me?

Out in all that garbage-streaked emptiness — despite the occasional burst of passing halogen — I couldn't tell if everything we encountered was haunted or just old, derelict, broken, useless. One never-ending landfill.

Around those parts, they'd made everything into junk. Homes. Roads. Glass. Nature. Life itself, they made into junk.

I cringed as we passed yet another deer carcass mounded on the side of the road.

As written in Job 35:11,

Who teaches us more than the beasts of the earth and makes us wiser than the birds in the sky?

Nobody. Look at nature and you feel something powerful. Look at an animal, in all of its untamable majesty, and you capture a deep love, all swept up in the power of creation. But, here, all I saw were poor creatures who people had slammed into and kept driving. Driving to where? For what reason? What exactly was so important that they left a trail of dead animals behind them?

So I crossed myself dolorously and said an "Our Father" and recited a stanza from Charles Bukowski's "The Laughing Heart"

you can't beat death but
you can beat death in life, sometimes.
and the more often you learn to do it,
the more light there will be.

Out here, nothing but darkness. Needing some light, by God. Give me something better than a Moon that hides like an underfed coward.

Jade told me about some of the more traumatic things she'd seen while working at the State Fair.

"Bro, they pull roaches out of the iced lemonade jugs and act like nothing happened."

"All right but what about the corn dogs?"

"You do not want to know, little bro."

She looked around in the quiet. "Back in the day, the Louisiana Congress refused to raise the drinking age from 18 to 21," she said. "They didn't want to lose all that drunk gambler money. So the federal government cut off funding to highways."

We glided through moon-pale landscape for an hour before I realized what she had meant. That there weren't any light poles or billboards along the road. Nothing to guide us or distract us. Just us, alone. And it felt like outer space had collapsed, swallowed us like jellybeans.

Like two teenagers playing a prank on the universe.

In the cozy Subaru Crosstrek, in the old wild night, brimming with the uncertainty of life and the nonchalance of failure, we paraded ourselves back to Dallas. Alive in the river silence that follows us everywhere.

New installments come Mondays and Thursdays. Next, the Iowa caucuses. Check out my Twitter. Email me at kryan@blazemedia.com