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GLENN: The morning show host at KSEV in Houston, Texas, our affiliate in Houston and my best friend, Pat Gray, welcome to the program, Pat, how are you?
GRAY: I'm good, how are you?
GLENN: Very good.
GRAY: You are on live right now.
GLENN: That's fantastic.
GRAY: Kind of cool.
GLENN: Yeah, we're glad to be on live in Houston and glad to have you on. Pat, tell me about the thought that you have on Barack Obama. Is there any way Barack Obama doesn't win this election?
GRAY: Oh, yeah, I think there's a way he doesn't win.
GLENN: Really? How?
GRAY: Well, we have to get the message out that the guy's a Marxist. I think that's the way he doesn't win. I don't think America
GLENN: Why do you use the old language of division?
GRAY: I know, isn't that horrible? That's just, that's it's insensitive. It's not loving.
GRAY: It just happens to be the truth and
GLENN: But it's the politics of division.
GRAY: I know.
GLENN: It's the using of the old labels.
GRAY: I know. It's a label that goes back to, well, I guess Karl Marx, doesn't it.
GRAY: And Vladimir Lenin when he finally put it into practice. So it is, it is old language but I think it's appropriate to resurrect it right now. With all the talk of collectivism and the common good and rich versus poor, I think it's appropriate. I think it's appropriate.
GLENN: I just had a guy on the phone from Portland. He is part of the morning show here and he is way, way liberal. He defected. Now we have Dan Boren of Oklahoma, the lone Democrat in Oklahoma's congressional delegation. He said that while Barack Obama has talked about working with the Republicans, unfortunately the record does not reflect working in a bipartisan fashion. He said he's the most liberal senator in congress, he has no intention of endorsing him for the White House. He is defecting. He's a Democrat and he's defecting from Barack Obama.
GLENN: This thing could this thing could implode.
GRAY: Wow, and I hope it does. Because, you know, that's exactly the point, isn't it? He's presented himself as the great uniter. When has he ever reached across the aisle to compromise, to not be quite as leftist as he's been known to be? Whereas, John McCain does it all the time.
GRAY: And we see that all the time. And the uniter? No.
GLENN: John McCain is the Democratic nominee. You know what I mean?
GLENN: He's the guy that the Democrats should have nominated. He is to the left but center left. He, you know, likes big government when he likes, you know, what they're doing, where conservatives are supposed to hate big government. Democrats like big government on certain things, and that's John McCain. He's the blue dog Democrat kind of President. He's not a Republican.
GRAY: Not in the least.
GLENN: And yet, but Barack Obama is the socialist party. We have a choice between a Democrat and a Marxist.
GRAY: Yeah, it's a pretty bad choice. Pretty bad choice and yet, like you said, that's the old way, that's the language of division, it's hatred. And we were told by Maureen Dowd in her column today that, you know, we've got some sort of witch hunt or, what was it, kill the witch program going against his blessed wife Michelle right now. You are not supposed to notice she has never been proud of her country in her adult life. You are not supposed to notice her message of force and that Barack Obama's going to require and demand certain things of us. We're not supposed to notice any of that.
GLENN: Yeah, those are her exact words, too.
GLENN: That he will demand that you are involved.
GRAY: And require. And he will not allow you to go back to your life as you knew it. What? I still want to live in America. I don't want my President to be the czar or the king, to demand, require and not allow me to do certain things?
GLENN: Do you remember, Pat, when Michael Moore we both talked about this. We warned, both of us on the air: Democrats, you don't know what you're getting into bed with, you're in so much trouble. Remember, you and I, you and I were both talking about George Bush and I remember you saying to me, because I said, "Pat, I can't do the George Bush thing anymore." And you said, I am so far off that George Bush bandwagon. And we talked about it and you said, if you are going to say something, you better be careful because a lot of Republicans aren't there yet. And we talked about how do we bring Republicans, how do we say to conservatives, you know, look, you've got to wake up because people were just, they were in that herd mentality. They were in that, "Hey, we've got to stand together as Republicans." And that had to stop. And at the same time we had that conversation, we said the Democrats are being duped as well.
GLENN: And they just haven't woken up.
GRAY: Yeah, and how many rank and file Democrats want Marxist ideological in the White House? They don't.
GLENN: They don't.
GRAY: They just don't understand. They see the hope, the change, they see the charisma, they start chanting his name and passing out in the crowd but they don't listen to what he is really saying.
GLENN: Because he's not saying anything.
GRAY: I know it.
GLENN: His wife is saying it.
GRAY: Well, his wife is saying plenty and then his is your gates like, well, Chucky Schumer was saying yesterday how they want to take these profits and demand and require what to do.
GLENN: So does John McCain!
GRAY: I know.
GLENN: John McCain does, too. I mean, I John McCain didn't fly back to Washington to stop that. He didn't vote. Neither did Barack Obama. These guys are the biggest weasels I've ever seen. This country deserves so much more. How did we end with these two?
GRAY: And where, where are the giblets, where's the spine of any of the Republicans? Fortunately yesterday they had the nerve to stand up and say no to the windfall profit thing. You know, but the demonization of big oil continues and if they are allowed to take these profits and do with it what they choose, either put it into their own coffers or force oil companies to do certain things with them, you are going to see the oil supply dry up. I mean, not only are you not going to pay $4 or $5 a gallon for it, you are not going to have it. And then there's going to be a real problem in this country.
GLENN: I talk to Ben Stein today. You know, Ben Stein is a real optimist and he's a guy who's like, Glenn, we have been through tough times before. He's been trying to talk me out of the insanity tree for quite some time. He said to me today, he said, Glenn, you're not going to have oil. You won't have oil. If, if Barack Obama or John McCain gets in and they start taking apart these profits and taking them away and taxing and penalizing these oil companies, if that happens, you won't have oil. And then all bets are off.
GRAY: And this is on a profit margin of 4 cents a gallon. Yeah, they sell a lot. It's volume, volume, volume. They sell a lot of oil. So they make a lot of money. But it's 4 cents a gallon. The government's making 18 cents a gallon or more?
GLENN: Obscene profit, what about their obscene profit? They haven't done anything for it!
GRAY: Nothing, nothing. And yet big oil is the problem. What about big jewelry? Let's talk about the 3,000% markup of diamonds. When is congress going to go after big jewelry?
GLENN: No, I want to know, because profit margin is 8.5% for the oil companies. The breweries, the profit margin is 10.5 or 10.7%. I want to know when we're going to go after Budweiser, Cindy McCain.
GRAY: Yeah, that's going to happen.
GLENN: Oh, yeah, you bet that will. It helps when you're sleeping with the President, the possible next President of the United States. That's the ultimate insider. Thanks, Pat, we'll talk to you again.
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