Glenn Beck talks with Dirk Kempthorne


Secretary of the Interior Dirk Kempthorne

GLENN: 888-727-BECK, it's Closed Line Friday. We have the secretary of the interior, Dirk Kempthorne, on with us. Hello, Dirk, Mr. Secretary, I'm sorry.

INTERIOR SECRETARY KEMPTHORNE: I'm good, Glenn. And call me Dirk. That's fine.

GLENN: I really want to like you, I really do but you hack me off with the polar bear thing.

INTERIOR SECRETARY KEMPTHORNE: We had that discussion.

GLENN: I know we did. I just, I can't believe that there was nothing you could do about keeping them off the endangered species list.

INTERIOR SECRETARY KEMPTHORNE: Yeah. The problem is, Glenn, their habitat is the ice and it's melting and we have the NASA and the USGS satellite photographs and everything. That's why I put them on the threatened, not endangered.

GLENN: Right. But doesn't their population count at all?

INTERIOR SECRETARY KEMPTHORNE: It does.

GLENN: Population has gone up from 5,000 to 25,000.

INTERIOR SECRETARY KEMPTHORNE: It has. And much of that is based on hunting has been restricted. In this ruling we found oil and gas activity has no effect on the polar bear and since 1972 we have been operating under the Marine Mammal Protection Act, which is more stringent than the Endangered Species Act. So on this ruling I simply married the two together so that the activities of those that have been operating for 30-plus years under Marine Mammal Protection Act, they understand how it works and so it doesn't change how they operate.

GLENN: Okay. Let me talk about what the President didn't do that I don't understand. Why didn't the President say, enough of no offshore drilling, let me rescind my executive order. I know that it wouldn't start it up but at least it would have been the first step towards it.

INTERIOR SECRETARY KEMPTHORNE: That's correct. He wanted to find an incentive for congress that would say, all right, I'm now ready to lift my withdrawal, you do the same thing and let's get going. It also allows for the states to have input and the President being a former governor, respects the rule of states and so he said he's ready to put the key in. He will turn his -- and we just need congress to now do the same.

GLENN: But why wouldn't it put more pressure on if he turned his key?

INTERIOR SECRETARY KEMPTHORNE: Again it's not an incentive to say there's a factor. You can't use an executive order with regard to withdrawal. That's not a factor. We're ready to go and let's send a signal.

GLENN: But wait, it's not like a nuclear -- we are not sending nuclear missiles, you don't have to turn the key at the same time. Let's just say Barack Obama gets in but, you know, we have a Republican congress for, you know, some -- hey, a meteor could hit us in the middle of the night and we now have an executive order key that hasn't been turned but we do have a congress key that we could turn and now we're stuck again. Why wouldn't he just turn his key?

INTERIOR SECRETARY KEMPTHORNE: Well, let's hope that we get enough pressure on congress to do something that the American families let congress know that this $4 a gallon gas just is having a real impact on us and the President has now said his withdrawal is ready to go. It's not a factor and let's have congress now cooperate. We need to do it cooperatively and that is something we do need to establish in Washington and this also gives the states an opportunity for input.

GLENN: Okay. Tell me a little bit about the resources that we do have here in the country.

INTERIOR SECRETARY KEMPTHORNE: Off the coast we have 85% of developable resources that are off limits to development currently, 85%. For us in this supply and demand predicament to say to the foreign producers of oil, you need to increase your supply, when we don't do it here at home is not right. And so we have the technology which we've demonstrated. We know how to do it with the greatest of environmental sensitivity and we now need to say let's get going.

GLENN: Is it true that there is more seepage, natural seepage at the bottom of the sea coming up from oil than there would be if we were drilling for oil?

INTERIOR SECRETARY KEMPTHORNE: We have 150 times more natural seepage than we get seepage from the oil and gas platforms.

GLENN: So it's a naturally occurring event to get the seepage.

INTERIOR SECRETARY KEMPTHORNE: Oh, yes, absolutely. And in fact, up in the tundra, in the Alaska you have seepage and for decades and decades they will cut out pieces of the tundra with that oil in it and they use it as fire starter.

GLENN: And the CO2 from coal, can that now be sequestered safely and put down back into the ground?

INTERIOR SECRETARY KEMPTHORNE: Well, the science is being developed and, you know, it looks like great promise.

GLENN: Is it possible to be energy independent in this country with all of the resources that we have?

INTERIOR SECRETARY KEMPTHORNE: I don't know when we would achieve that independence, Glenn, but I'll tell you we could make significant strides in reducing our reliance on foreign sources of our energy. That's what we should be doing. We need to get going on the oil and gas development. And again, you look at the record down there in the Gulf of Mexico. 4,000 oil and gas platforms. When Katrina and Rita hit, which was the worst hurricane in our history, 3,000 of those oil platforms were in the direct line of fire of those hurricanes. All systems worked. The valves under the floor of the ocean were shut off. No major seepage. No loss of life. It just shows you that we do have the technology when we get going. In the United States where we're on the land and doing this, we now what used to traditionally be 10 acres were wellhead, we're getting it down to now 1/2 an acre per wellhead because of directional drilling which we've learned to do from the offshore activities. You can go down and go in any direction up to 10 miles underground and tap the reserves.

GLENN: Harry Reid says that this is just more of the failed policies of the past, going we can drill our way out of this problem.

INTERIOR SECRETARY KEMPTHORNE: We need to have a mixed portfolio but the President has directed this department. We're doing a variety of things on alternatives such as geothermal, solar, wind-power, looking at wave currents, et cetera. But on the alternative, and renewable sources of power, but I don't think anybody believes that we're going to somehow overnight not need the fossil fuels for the foreseeable future. They are very much a part of our necessity for economic activity and our national security.

GLENN: If you don't think anybody believes that, then explain to me what the Democrats do believe.

INTERIOR SECRETARY KEMPTHORNE: We're in a political climate right now and again, the President's been very forthcoming in saying, all right, his withdrawals, his executive order are not an issue. He's ready to lift them.

GLENN: I understand that, but -- because the only -- look, Mr. Secretary. We're looking for somebody to tell us the truth. We're looking for somebody to make sense to us, and the only thing that we can make sense, that makes sense to most people is let's start looking for our own resources, let's develop other things, let's go ahead and put nukes on the table, let's put wind on the table and solar power but so many people in Washington won't do that, the Democrats won't do those things but, you know, honestly, Mr. Secretary, the answer of the President not turning his key doesn't make sense to me but, you know, I'm not going to get a straight answer, I don't think, on that. Will somebody please do something.

INTERIOR SECRETARY KEMPTHORNE: It's not a matter of not getting a straight answer. We've given you a straight answer. I'm just not going to try to articulate why the Democrats won't do it. I don't understand it.

GLENN: No, I don't, either. I'm not asking you to speak for the Democrats. I was on the President but, you know, that's a different story. I got the answer to that.

INTERIOR SECRETARY KEMPTHORNE: Okay.

GLENN: I just can't figure it out. And we are in deep, deep trouble, are we not, sir, if we don't move?

INTERIOR SECRETARY KEMPTHORNE: My goodness. Ask American citizens. Ask the men and women that are trying to run a business that now have the rising energy costs and what it's doing to their bottom line.

GLENN: Thank you very much, Mr. Secretary.

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) joined the "Glenn Beck Radio Program" to explain how mail-in ballots are typically disqualified during recounts at a far higher rate than in-person, Election Day ballots, and why this is "good news" for President Donald Trump's legal battle over the election.

"One of the things that gives the greatest cause for optimism is, this election ... there's a pretty marked disparity in terms of how the votes were distributed. On Election Day, with in-person voting, Donald Trump won a significant majority of the votes cast on in-person voting on Election Day. Of mail-in voting, Joe Biden won a significant majority of the votes cast early on mail-in voting," Cruz explained.

"Now, here's the good news: If you look historically to recounts, if you look historically to election litigation, the votes cast in person on Election Day tend to stand. It's sort of hard to screw that up. Those votes are generally legal, and they're not set aside. Mail-in votes historically have a much higher rate of rejection … when they're examined, there are a whole series of legal requirements that vary state by state, but mail-in votes consistently have a higher rate of rejection, which suggests that as these votes begin being examined and subjected to scrutiny, that you're going to see Joe Biden's vote tallies go down. That's a good thing," he added. "The challenge is, for President Trump to prevail, he's got to run the table. He's got to win, not just in one state but in several states. That makes it a lot harder to prevail in the litigation. I hope that he does so, but it is a real challenge and we shouldn't try to convince ourselves otherwise."

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Fox News senior meteorologist Janice Dean is perhaps even more disgusted with New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) for his coronavirus response than BlazeTV's Stu Burguiere (read what Stu has to say on the subject here), and for a good reason.

She lost both of her in-laws to COVID-19 in New York's nursing homes after Gov. Cuomo's infamous nursing home mandate, which Cuomo has since had scrubbed from the state's website and blamed everyone from the New York Post to nursing care workers to (every leftist's favorite scapegoat) President Donald Trump.

Janice joined Glenn and Stu on the "Glenn Beck Radio Program" Tuesday to ask why mainstream media is not holding Gov. Cuomo — who recently published a book about his leadership during the COVID-19 pandemic — accountable?

"I'm vocal because I have not seen the mainstream media ask these questions or demand accountability of their leaders. [Cuomo] really has been ruling with an iron fist, and every time he does get asked a question, he blames everybody else except the person that signed that order," Janice said.

"In my mind, he's profiting off the over 30 thousand New Yorkers, including my in-laws, that died by publishing a book on 'leadership' of New York," she added. "His order has helped kill thousands of relatives of New York state. And this is not political, Glenn. This is not about Republican or Democrat. My in-laws were registered Democrats. This is not about politics. This is about accountability for something that went wrong, and it's because of your [Cuomo's] leadership that we're put into this situation."

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As America grows divided and afraid to disagree with the Democrats' woke plan for America, Megyn Kelly is ready to fight back for the truth. For nearly two decades, she navigated the volatile and broken world of the media. But as America leans on independent voices more than ever, she's breaking new ground with "The Megyn Kelly Show."

She joined the latest Glenn Beck Podcast to break down what's coming next after the election: Black Lives Matter is mainstream, leftists are making lists of Trump supporters, and the Hunter Biden scandal is on the back burner.

Megyn and Glenn reminisce about their cable news days (including her infamous run-in with then-presidential candidate Donald Trump) and to look into the chaotic and shady world of journalism and the growing entitlement it's bred. For example, many conservatives have been shocked by how Fox News handled the election.

Megyn defended Fox News, saying she believes Fox News' mission "is a good one," but also didn't hold back on hosts like Neil Cavuto, who cut off a White House briefing to fact check it — something she never would have done, even while covering President Obama.

Megyn also shared this insightful takeaway from her time at NBC: "Jane Fonda was an ass."

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Glenn Beck has had enough of exposing scandal after scandal, just to have everyone look the other way: Benghazi, Hillary Clinton's emails, Joe and Hunter Biden's dealings in Ukraine and China … the list goes on, but no consequences are paid. Now, the media have called the election for Joe Biden and insist no one can question it. But for many of the more than 71 million people who voted for President Trump, our search for the truth isn't over yet.

On his Wednesday night special this week, Glenn called out the left's long list of alleged corruption that has gone unchecked and stressed that Donald Trump's legal team must be allowed to go through the process of investigating the multiple allegations of election fraud to ensure our voting systems are fair.

"I don't know about you, but I'm tired. I am worn out. I am fed up!" Glenn said during his opening monologue. "I've had enough. I am tired of exposing corruption, doing our homework, even going overseas and having documents translated to make sure they're exactly right, [and] presenting the evidence ... except, once we expose it, nothing happens. Nobody goes to jail. Nobody pays for a damn thing any more!"

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