Glenn Beck talks with Alan Gura


GLENN: I want to come back to that "Glenn Beck, you're a flip-flopper" on the death penalty because I've got a lot to say on that in many different directions. We'll do that, but I have Alan Gura on the phone. This is the guy who argued the Heller case with the Supreme Court. Allen, congratulations.

GURA: Thank you so much. Great to be here.

GLENN: This has to be quite a banner day for you.

GURA: It's a fantastic day. It's a great day for the Constitution, it's a great day for me personally, of course, but it's really not about me. It's really about the Second Amendment and the global rights and it's a great victory for all Americans.

GLENN: Oh, come on. You know you closed your office door at one point and you went, yes. Did you have a sleepless night last night?

GURA: No, I slept very well. Got to court early and just it was fantastic to be there in the courtroom and listen to Justice Scalia read what I thought was a fantastic opinion.

GLENN: Now, because I know I haven't heard that you're an arrogant guy. So I don't think that comes from arrogance. Was it just that you just felt comfortable with what you did? You just, you felt comfortable that the decision was going to come your way or you just let it --

GURA: We had a very, very strong case and it's also out of my hands by that point. I mean, there's been nothing for me to do, you know, and we did our best and all we had to do was just wait and get a decision.

GLENN: Was there any point in the case where you said, this is it, I got it, this is it?

GURA: Today, this morning when we got the decision. You never really know. You can't assume that you're going to win things like this. But when we heard the decision, of course, we knew and now it's great.

GLENN: No, but I mean when you had the case -- there was never a point when you were putting the case together, preparing it or arguing it that you thought, this is it; I mean, I've got the case, I really think this will do it?

GURA: Well, I felt that from day one this is a winner. This was always a very strong case. The law was clearly unconstitutional. The Second Amendment, a lot's been written about it and, of course, more today but if you look at the history, if you look at the text, no matter how you slice it, it comes down to individual rights. So I've always felt that we were right in a powerful case and that we deserved to win. Of course, a lot of things happen on the way and so I was never really certain that we would actually prevail. There can be all kinds of procedural bumps along the road and we had some in our case. And sometimes courts won't always get it right. But today the Court got it right and I'm gratified.

GLENN: Give me a sense of historically where this case is going to go down. Is this as big as Roe versus Wade?

GURA: Well, I'm not sure I can rank different cases. Certainly it's a landmark case. This is one of the all-time important cases because this is a case that tells Americans that a part of the Bill of Rights is in effect and is authorable. It tells us we do have a right. It's not every day the Supreme Court confirms against a great weight of opposition by government and other forces, that we do actually have a right that we can exercise as a constitutional matter. So it's profound.

GLENN: Now, will you go and take on any other gun rights? Will you take on Chicago or New York City or are you saying, well, I'm going to move on to something else now?

GURA: Oh, I definitely expect to lead the fight in Chicago and other places as well. You'll see more from me in this. I'm not -- this is not the end for me, and it's not the end for the Second Amendment. It's important for people to understand. The Second Amendment is a normal part of the Bill of Rights, and like other parts of the Bill of Rights, like the First Amendment or the Fourth Amendment, it's going to take time. It's going to take an endless amount of time. There will be cases that come up to the system and some of them will be successful and some of them will not, but that's the way our system works. We're not going to have one case that for all time determines what the Second Amendment means in all contexts.

GLENN: If you were on the other side or you were Chicago or you were New York or whatever, who do you think is sitting back today saying, oh, boy, this is going to mean real trouble for me because I'm on the fence, I mean, you know, I'm a city that has a law or a state or something that I'm probably the lowest hanging fruit?

GURA: Well, I think certainly Chicago has to start thinking about what its laws look like. You know, the people who favor gun prohibition. The gun prohibition movement ended today. It's very important to understand. The government cannot ban guns and it cannot regulate guns out of existence. There's always going to be a role for the politicians, for government to play in regulating firearms and we're not going to see background checks go away and we're not going to see felon possession laws go away. But when the government regulates guns, it's going to have to remember there are individual rights and they are going to have to respect that and if they don't respect it, then we'll have more days like today where the courts will step in and safeguard our liberties.

GLENN: So today when Michael Bloomberg is eating lunch and he's got indigestion, it's really your name that's giving him the indigestion today.

GURA: Well, I don't know. I mean, I wouldn't wish indigestion on Mayor Bloomberg.

GLENN: I would. Let me. Let me. Let me.

GURA: Okay.

GLENN: I wish him indigestion, I do. All right, Allen, congratulations and thanks so much for talking to us.

GURA: Well, thank you so much. Thanks for having me.

GLENN: You bet. Bye-bye.

GURA: Bye.

GLENN: Amazing to be able to talk to somebody who just made history with the Second Amendment.

On the "Glenn Beck Radio Program" Monday, Harvard Law professor and lawyer on President Donald Trump's impeachment defense team Alan Dershowitz explains the history of impeachment and its process, why the framers did not include abuse of power as criteria for a Constitutional impeachment, why the Democrats are framing their case the way they are, and what to look for in the upcoming Senate trial.

Dershowitz argued that "abuse of power" -- one of two articles of impeachment against Trump approved by House Democrats last month -- is not an impeachable act.

"There are two articles of impeachment. The second is 'obstruction of Congress.' That's just a false accusation," said Dershowitz. "But they also charge him, in the Ukraine matter, with abuse of power. But abuse of power was discussed by the framers (of the U.S. Constitution) ... the framers refused to include abuse of power because it was too broad, too open-ended.

"In the words of James Madison, the father of our Constitution, it would lead presidents to serve at the will of Congress. And that's exactly what the framers didn't want, which is why they were very specific and said a president can be impeached only for treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors," he added.

"What's alleged against President Trump is not criminal," added Dershowitz. "If they had criminal issues to allege, you can be sure they would have done it. If they could establish bribery or treason, they would have done it already. But they didn't do it. They instead used this concept of abuse of power, which is so broad and general ... any president could be charged with it."

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On Friday's radio program, Bill O'Reilly joins Glenn Beck discuss the possible outcomes for the Democrats in 2020.

Why are former President Barack and First Lady Michelle Obama working overtime to convince Americans they're more moderate than most of the far-left Democratic presidential candidates? Is there a chance of a Michelle Obama vs. Donald Trump race this fall?

O'Reilly surmised that a post-primary nomination would probably be more of a "Bloomberg play." He said Michael Bloomberg might actually stand a chance at the Democratic nomination if there is a brokered convention, as many Democratic leaders are fearfully anticipating.

"Bloomberg knows he doesn't really have a chance to get enough delegates to win," O'Reilly said. "He's doing two things: If there's a brokered convention, there he is. And even if there is a nominee, it will probably be Biden, and Biden will give [him] Secretary of State or Secretary of Treasury. That's what Bloomberg wants."

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On the "Glenn Beck Radio Program" Friday, award-winning investigative reporter John Solomon, a central figure in the impeachment proceedings, explained his newly filed lawsuit, which seeks the records of contact between Ukraine prosecutors and the U.S. Embassy officials in Kiev during the 2016 election.

The records would provide valuable information on what really happened in Ukraine, including what then-Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter were doing with Ukrainian energy company, Burisma Holdings, Solomon explained.

The documents, which the State Department has withheld thus far despite repeated requests for release by Solomon, would likely shed light on the alleged corruption that President Donald Trump requested to be investigated during his phone call with the president of Ukraine last year.

With the help of Southeastern Legal Foundation, Solomon's lawsuit seeks to compel the State Department to release the critical records. Once released, the records are expected to reveal, once and for all, exactly why President Trump wanted to investigate the dealings in Ukraine, and finally expose the side of the story that Democrats are trying to hide in their push for impeachment.

"It's been a one-sided story so far, just like the beginning of the Russia collusion story, right? Everybody was certain on Jan. 9 of 2017 that the Christopher Steele dossier was gospel. And our president was an agent of Russia. Three years later, we learned that all of that turned out to be bunk, " Solomon said.

"The most important thing about politics, and about investigations, is that there are two sides to a story. There are two pieces of evidence. And right now, we've only seen one side of it," he continued. "I think we'll learn a lot about what the intelligence community, what the economic and Treasury Department community was telling the president. And I bet the story was way more complicated than the narrative that [House Intelligence Committee Chairman] Adam Schiff [D-Calif.] has woven so far."

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Carter Page, a former advisor to Donald Trump's 2016 presidential campaign, found himself at the center of the Russia probe and had his reputation and career destroyed by what we now know were lies from our own intelligence system and the media.

On the TV show Thursday, Page joined Glenn Beck to speak out about how he became the subject of illegal electronic surveillance by the FBI for more than two years, and revealed the extent of the corruption that has infiltrated our legal systems and our country as a whole.

"To me, the bigger issue is how much damage this has done to our country," Page told Glenn. "I've been very patient in trying to ... find help with finding solutions and correcting this terrible thing which has happened to our country, our judicial system, DOJ, FBI -- these once-great institutions. And my bigger concern is the fact that, although we keep taking these steps forward in terms of these important findings, it really remains the tip of the iceberg."

Page was referencing the report by Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz, which revealed that the FBI made "at least 17 significant errors or omissions" in its Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) applications for warrants to spy on Page, a U.S. citizen.

"I think this needs to be attacked from all angles," Glenn said. "The one angle I'm interested in from you is, please tell me you have the biggest badass attorneys that are hungry, starving, maybe are a little low to pay their Mercedes payments right now, and are just gearing up to come after the government and the media. Are they?"

I can confirm that that is the case," Page replied.

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