Toby Keith in Beer from my Horses, coming out August 8th.
GLENN: From Radio City in Midtown Manhattan, high above rock can he fell her plaza, sometimes they throw jelly beans at the tourists below. Welcome to it as the third most listened to program in all of America. My name is Glenn Beck. Joining me now is Toby Keith. Hey, Toby.
TOBY: Hey, Glenn. How is it going today?
GLENN: How are you?
TOBY: You know how I'm doing.
GLENN: Well, you're in New York, so kind of sketchy.
TOBY: Well, it's just another day in paradise.
GLENN: There's nothing like New York at this time of year when it's really, really sweaty and everything smells like feces. Which is great.
TOBY: Yeah. Yeah.
GLENN: So, Toby, you're actually, you're spending an hour with me on Friday on the television program, and we actually cut it last night. You brought a pitch fork and I just appreciate that so much.
TOBY: I'm doing my part. Doing what God put me here today.
GLENN: You know, the thing is that I find so interesting is a lot of people because of your song, you know, the red, white and blue, which is, I like to call it the boost in your ass song, a lot of people, you have gotten so much heat for being just a right wing, zealot that's out of control, war monger and everything else, the more I get to know you, the more I believe you're my grand father. My grandfather was a Democrat and you know what, my grandfather would quick the snot out of some of the Democrats right now on some of the things they're doing.
TOBY: It's a shame that just because you support the military and the people who volunteer to do that nasty job every day, that if you support that openly, with the agenda driven world we live in, you're automatically a right winger: There were brakes, smoking and squealing, when they found out I was a Democrat. You can't believe you know if you're getting punched on both sides that you're in the right area.
GLENN: I think you're exactly right, because I think they both sting on ice (stink on ice right now. You've actually written a new movie, you ever been 'doing it for a while. We've been trying to get together for I don't know how long, we haven't been able to do it, because you've been in Hollywood, which you in Hollywood that's
TOBY: That's a you know what, though? Just like everything else, the rap that they get is a little overrated. I know there's a lost I know there's a big syndicate of lefty, haters out there that do their own agenda, but you'd be surprised, Glenn, how many of the great, famous people walk up to me. I've always got my gloves off and my fists up ready to go if they come attacking, but you'd be surprised how many walk up, are kind, thanks for supporting our troops. I go, why don't you? They say, we've got to work.
GLENN: It's amazing to me. Somebody asked me to speak at a group of about 70 students, do you remember? It was like 70 big Hollywood names. They were having a private dinner. It was kind of like, quiet, I couldn't do it because my daughter's play was the night of that get together so I couldn't go out there, but they have told me the same thing. A lot of people in Hollywood would like to say something, but the power structure is run by these crazy whack job progressives that you just you won't work again.
TOBY: No, you won't, and they speak out you know, it's a shame that we can't support our own military, I mean, without being war mongering and, you know, I knew after 911 that our government was making plans to go into Afghanistan and the world voted that way. We have Allied forces in Afghanistan, but the second that Iraq opened up, they don't talk about Afghanistan, they just hate on Iraq and there's some people that don't even believe we should have a military. I just think it's ridiculous that you shouldn't be able to defend yourself.
GLENN: You know, I saw something that you said the other day where you said, the biggest mistake in Iraq was made by George Bush, the first one, and I thought because I remember when that happened and we didn't go in, and finish the job. I thought, we're going to pay for this. I mean, we're going to have to do it again.
TOBY: Well, we had approval. He had invaded Kuwait and at the time you know we hadn't had the terrorists attacks. And at the time, the world was always call on America when you want to prove something, and soon as the world all agreed that Kuwait was getting that there was probably genocide and mass murders going to take place, then while we had the world's attention, they should have, instead of losing boys going in there and liberating Kuwait, you know, they should have done the deed then instead of waiting here and having to go in and do it now for whatever reason.
GLENN: Let me ask you, and you don't have to answer any of these questions, because I know you're an entertainer and you don't want to, that's fine. The speech that Barack Obama gave over in Europe about, you know, we just all need to, you know, get along and work together and have strong global alliances and everything else, it sounded like such a globalist kind of agenda there and then when he said, you know, as Americans we've made so many mistakes and the crowd cheered, did it bother you at all or do you think that's okay?
TOBY: You know, those kind of things always bother me, but not the whole speech. I'll you know, clarify that. It's real easy to stand on foreign soil and say something bad about America as bad as the other countries hate us right now. It's really easy to do that. Where it takes strength, I think, is to stand and say other things. Now, that being said, I like some of the things that Obama has said and I like the fact that he's, you know, I came back from meeting with General Petraeus this year in April and my word that I was telling everybody is Iraq's about over and for years they said it couldn't be won.
GLENN: I know.
TOBY: And I said, Petraeus, I talked to him two different 45 minute conversations two years in a row. They were gaining in leaps and bounds. I think that even though one is too many, I think we've only lost six to eight Americans this whole month of July and one's too many. But when you compare that to the numbers of casualties that we've had in the past, for whatever reason we're in there. We're closer to getting out than we've ever been, so everybody wants the same result.
GLENN: No, I don't think so. I think everybody there are some that just say, just leave. Let's just get out and we don't have to being victorious.
TOBY: No, but I'm saying they want the result of getting the troops out.
GLENN: Yeah, yeah.
TOBY: So then you've got, he says he's going to support Afghanistan and then I think even goes as far to say he might go into Pakistan, which I don't understand that, but the guys in Afghanistan are kind of forgot about and when I go down there and perform for them every year, I visit with them and they kind of feel like the ugly stepsister, you know, that are everybody's attention is on Iraq, but Petraeus has done a heck of a job.
GLENN: When are you going back again?
TOBY: I go every spring for 14 to 17 days.
GLENN: If it is at all possible, can I tag along with you?
TOBY: If you want to go over there, I'd love to have you.
GLENN: I'd love to go over there. I'd love to bring I'd love to bring cameras if we can
GLENN: Everything else, but I'd love to go over there.
TOBY: I've put some troops on TV. They love to show people say hi to the people back here.
GLENN: Okay. Toby, you've got a new movie that is coming out and it is, from what I understand, I haven't seen it yet, but it comes out is it wide release? What is it August 5th?
TOBY: It comes out August 8th.
GLENN: August 8th.
TOBY: We're in about a hundred locations, and Lion's Gate doing it. Roadside Attractions, Lion's Gate are doing this thing, they take these kind of movies, they know how to market them, they know how to blow them up. The last thing you want to do is spend twice as much as it costs to make the movie trying to decide. We'll find out here in the next two or three weeks what we have and if the public likes it, then we'll blow it up, it'll be a huge expansion.
GLENN: From the way you described it, it is kind of like the old Smoky and the Bandit. It's kind of that fun, light hearted, make fun of yourself, you know, rebel but not a jerk kind of you know, charming rebel.
TOBY: Right, I always make fun of myself first and then I can just rare back and laugh at everybody else. So, hey, you know what, it I met Burt Reynolds on a project a couple of years ago and he said, you know what, you're very charming and you you have the persona to be a very charming but when crossed dangerous guy, he said, that's the same quality, not that I'm not this guy, this is Burt Reynolds, I can quote him, he said, John Wayne had that charming but dangerous thing. He said if you'll gravitate to that, you can do what I do for a living, have fun at the same time. When I wrote this script with Rodney Carrington, comedy, it was a tip of the hat to Burt Reynolds.
GLENN: Willy Nelson is in the movie. Everybody is in the movie. Ted Nugent is in the movie. You're close with Ted, aren't you?
TOBY: You know, Ted has a great heart. Ted gets a bad rap for being an extreme right wing radical.
GLENN: He is one of the most giving man I've ever seen.
TOBY: Ted doesn't get any credit, which is the way it are usually works. They pick out one thing about you, blow it up. As extreme as he is, as hard as he drives it. He does a lot for kids, he is auto he never done drugs or alcohol, he appreciates that, tells kids not to open doors (those doors at his camps. He wants to live off the land like his four fathers did, God bless him, if he wants to eat deer every night for dinner, go for it.
GLENN: I tell you what, I was doing this fund raiser for a family in Idaho and I was just about to walk on stage. Ted calls me right before I go on stage and he said, Glenn, why didn't you tell me you were doing this fund raiser. I said, you know, Ted, I don't usually say, has anybody told Ted Nugent what I'm doing. He said, why didn't you tell me? I said, I didn't know you'd want to know. He said, my gosh, they're hunters; right? I said, yeah, he said, we're going hunting, I want to do something. You tell them that Uncle Ted is going to take them on the hunt of their lifetime and he's just such an amazing man that he would take that he found out on his own, that he would take time to call me and then, I didn't ask him for anything. He just did it.
TOBY: Yeah. He's an amazing guy. You know something else. He doesn't he's not a hater. You don't get that you don't get that cut throat hate out of Ted. You get that yeah, he is's agenda strong. He believes in his conservative lifestyle, the way he lives it. At the same time if he runs into somebody that has an opposite agenda from him. He says, hey, man, thanks for your energy and appreciate what you do and let's go hunting sometime or fishing and he's just a very giving guy. He's a little extreme for me. I don't live my lifestyle like Ted does.
GLENN: Well, I think he at one point said, you've got to put your hands in the deer that you just killed and feel the blood and the warmth. Okay.
Ted, you're scaring me a little bit. Toby, if you don't mind, let me go through some of the headlines of just today, I just want to pick your brain, because I think you are I think you're the kind of guy that, you know, everybody I think that everybody in the country, is more like you are, is I don't care which party, I just want to solve some of these problems.
GLENN: So let me ask you this problem. Agree or disagree. Today the or yesterday, the LA city council has banned the fast food outlets from poor areas because poor areas are getting too fat and so they want nice restaurants there where people will have better choices and so they're banning fast food restaurants.
TOBY: Well, how are poor people going to afford to go to nice restaurants? I mean, you can eat at Taco Bell for you can fill up on gas at Taco Bell cheaper than you can at the gas station.
GLENN: Let me ask you this. Don't you think that if you're so stupid that you are looking at a Big Mac and because you can get a salad at McDonald's. You're looking at a Big Mac, going, is that better for me than watermelon, don't you think you deserve to die?
TOBY: I think it's your own choice and you should take care of your body better than that, but I don't think that's that's like banning guns. People are still going to get fast food. I mean, you know, about the you know, if you ban guns, and I had an argument one time with a Hollywood person and they were thinking about banning guns, and I said, why? They said, so there wouldn't be any out here. I said, they banned cocaine. You think I could go find cocaine tonight?
GLENN: In Hollywood? No.
TOBY: They banned AK 47's. There's already a ban on them, but I bet I can go find one.
GLENN: Today, the house hasn't been working on you know like finding energy or oil or anything else. Yesterday they decided and debated and finally passed a resolution to apologize for slavery.
TOBY: You know what? It's if it's never been done before, then I think everybody apologizes for that.
GLENN: I mean, why, but isn't that common sense?
TOBY: Yeah, it is.
GLENN: I don't know a single soul that is, like, oh, slavery. If we just had a few slaves. I don't know anybody that's like that.
GLENN: And anybody who would be like that, we can, you know, take care of them by just saying, hey, talk a little louder because you're a freak.
TOBY: Well, we definitely need to move past it, because it's something that I see that never changes. It racial issues just never ever seem to change. We can't get past them. And so I really don't know what the answer is.
GLENN: Wait a minute. Hang on a second. Haven't we gotten past it. Isn't Barack Obama possibly the next president of the United States and you don't see people, you know, saying, oh, he's black. I don't know any of those people. I'm sure they exist, but I don't know those people. Don't you think that shows that, I mean, look at the great distance we've come in just the last 20 years.
TOBY: Okay, but, also, I think that the black people would say, he don't talk, act, or care railway himself as a black person.
GLENN: What does that even mean?
TOBY: I don't know what that means, I'm saying that's what I think that they would say. Even though the the black society would pull for him, I still think that they think in the back of their mind that the only reason that he is in is because he talks, acts and carries himself as a Caucasian, but I think he's got a I think him and McCain are the two best choices, in my opinion, that we've had in years.
TOBY: I mean, I'm saying, as having I don't think I didn't think Kerry and Kerry and Gore, I didn't think either one of them had leadership qualities.
GLENN: Oh, yeah, they were nightmares.
TOBY: And I didn't think I thought Dan Quayle was, had weak leadership traits, you know, character. So I thought Bill Clinton at least was a leader and so when my Democrat roots start kicking in, you'll get me to argue with you about that, but it's at least, at least we have some we have a couple of candidates here I mean, you're always going to find fault. They're flip flopping right now, I know, and waffling and they have got to get some vice presidents and they've got to land on their issues and what they're going to stand for before we can even pick somebody, but sometimes you just wish you didn't have to vote.
GLENN: Toby Keith. Boy, isn't that the truth. The name of the movie coming up is Beer from my Horses. Coming out August 8th. Always a pleasure to have you on. Thanks, Toby.
TOBY: I'm glad to be here. Anything you need, you call me. If you want to do the USO, call me up. Troops would love it.