GLENN: Senator John McCain is with me. Hello, senator, how are you, sir?
SENATOR McCAIN: Hello, Glenn, you rascal, how are you?
GLENN: I'm very good. Listen, I want to start with just a tough question for you. You know that I and I have our differences but I appreciate the fact that you are always a straight talker. So if you don't mind, I want to ask you the toughest question first and that is
SENATOR McCAIN: Okay.
GLENN: Have you checked your tire pressure today?
SENATOR McCAIN: You know, I was just going to go out early and check and, you know, we're on the bus today and I've got to do that and
GLENN: Do you know we could
SENATOR McCAIN: I have a my tire, my pressure gauge says Obama's energy plan.
GLENN: Right. Do you know that if you just, on that big huge bus, if you did that and checked your windshield wiper fluid, we could kiss Saudi Arabia goodbye by Tuesday?
SENATOR McCAIN: All our problems would be over, my friend. I don't know why I didn't think of that.
GLENN: I know. You're not doing your part.
SENATOR McCAIN: Do you think that the tire gauge thing is naive, it's a lie, or just one of the dumbest things you've ever heard come out of somebody's mouth?
SENATOR McCAIN: I just think it's a lack of understanding of the energy crisis in America, the fact that Americans are still paying $4 a gallon for gas and that, of course, ask AAA or anybody else will tell you obviously we should inflate our tires. But that's not an energy policy. That's a public service announcement. That's what it is.
GLENN: Barack Obama said that we have to break our oil addiction and it will take nothing less this is a quote nothing less than a complete transformation of our economy.
SENATOR McCAIN: Oh, my.
GLENN: I mean, you know, I don't know if that's necessarily a good idea.
SENATOR McCAIN: It's going to require, as I've seen you talk about, an "All of the above" approach. Wind, solar, nuclear, offshore drilling, all of the clean coal technology. I'm in Ohio. We're sitting on the world's America sits on the world's largest resources of coal, clean coal technology. Alternate energy. Automobiles that are electric powered. Hybrid. All of the, all of the flex fuel. All of the things we need to do, and nuclear power has got to be, Glenn, a big part of it.
GLENN: How come
SENATOR McCAIN: And he says he doesn't want to store it and he doesn't want to reprocess it. You've got to do that, the spent nuclear fuel. You've got to do it.
GLENN: You know, how come the American people or do you think I I think they are actually starting to wake up to this. For instance, Nancy Pelosi by the way, do you have a copy of her new book?
SENATOR McCAIN: No, I haven't, but I know you read it cover to cover.
GLENN: Yeah oh, no, no, it's fantastic. I bought all 2,000 copies that were sold. Nancy Pelosi is saying, you know, we're not going to drill but she's telling the Democrats if you are in trouble in your own district, you go ahead and say, well, I want to drill, I'm for that. These guys, these guys are lying to the American people about what their real intentions are. Do you believe that or not?
SENATOR McCAIN: 9%, 9% approval rating of congress. The cynicism is justified. Look, the thing that Americans are mad about and my Republican friends led by John Bainer and the house are saying, look, allow a vote, allow a vote. Americans, overwhelming majority of Americans want to drill offshore. So allow a vote on it. Let's let the Democratic instead they shut down and they go on a five week vacation, a five week vacation while Americans are paying $4 a gallon for gas. I mean, you can't make it up. You can't make it up. My session, I'm going to call them back into session and say stay there until you get something done for a change.
GLENN: Look over the horizon for me. Tell me if America doesn't change its energy policies now and at least engage in transitional drilling for a very long time. Look over the horizon. What does America look like, what does Russia look like, what role does everybody play if we follow a plan of not drilling and not going for any kind of oil or our own energy and nuke power?
SENATOR McCAIN: First let me comment, what do you think Saddam Hussein would be doing if oil were $125 or $130 or $140 a barrel, by the way? I think America looks more and more dependent, I think Russia becomes more and more aggressive in the, quote, near abroad. Georgia, Ukraine, the Baltic countries and others. Notice that they cut the oil flow to the Republic, Czech Republic after they made an agreement with us on missile defense. There's no doubt that these countries are not only emboldened but they are able to engage in more aggressive activity. And finally, to state the obvious, $700 billion a year to countries that don't like us very much. And it's a fact that some of that money goes into the hands of terrorist organizations. I mean, that's published, published facts. So it's an economic, it's climate, environmental and it is a national security issue. Americans are ready to go on this, Glenn. Thanks for all you've been talking about. Americans are ready to drill offshore, they're ready for nuclear power. Why should it take the French five years to build a nuclear power plant and us ten, fifteen, twenty? There's no excuse for that.
GLENN: Will you consider Paris Hilton as your vice president?
SENATOR McCAIN: I think that she's got you've got a great sense of humor. I think it's hilarious. I think it's hilarious.
GLENN: John McCain, hold on just a second. Thank you for being on the program. Back in a flash.