Glenn: I saw a YouTube video of Michelle Malkin and the way she was treated and you know what, I have to tell you, there are lots of people that I disagree with but it's America, man, it's America. Ain't going to be, you know, shouting down Keith Olbermann. Besides, he would like it too much. Shouting down Keith Olbermann in the street. He's a boob, he's wrong, he's a liar. Move on with your life. There are people who think that about me. Great, move on with your life. You know, when people come up to me and they say, you know, whatever and I'll be with my family or my wife and they come up and they just, you know, abuse me. Hannity told me a story. We were talking one Saturday and he said, you know, I just got back from breakfast. And he said, this guy comes up to me in this diner. I'm sitting there having breakfast with my kids and the guy comes up and he just starts telling all these horrible things about me in front of my kids. He said, I got up and I walked him out and I said, excuse me, you can say whatever you want about me but good heavens, man, my kids are here.
People just don't care. Relax. Michelle Malkin went through quite a bit. Michelle is on the phone. Michelle, how did you get trapped in the crowd of crazy people?
MALKIN: Glenn, I was working. You know, there was a protest on Monday in front of the Denver mint that was supposedly to levitate the building in the manner of Abby Hoffman who attempted to do this to the Pentagon in the Sixties.
MALKIN: It's a lighthearted event with some self effacement, a quality that is in rare abundance
MALKIN: On the left. But it was supposed to be a funny thing. There were about 15 people there. There were far more bloggers and mainstream media and gawkers there to cover it. And I guess at the point, somebody had to take it upon himself to, you know, turn it into a total fiasco and get their YouTube moment and they did. The 9/11 truth brigade was there and these people have real issues that apparently Thorazine is not helping.
GLENN: You know, Michelle, I have to tell you, the group that and it's on the left and the right and it is a growing number of people. And I have been warning about these people for years. I know you have been on it, too, that these 9/11 Truthers are truly disturbed people. And they are you'll see them next week at the Ron Paul libertarians and you saw them with the anarchists here. They are a "Destroy the government, scorched Earth" kind of people. And you know what, you can question anything you want in America. You can say, "Well, I don't know, there's a lot of unanswered questions." That's fine. But these people take it a step further to where the hatred and the vitriol is remarkable.
MALKIN: You are absolutely right, Glenn. And I covered it in my last book which was called unhinged and had an entire chapter on this very disturbing strain of tinfoil wrapped paranoia. And it would be one thing to simply dismiss it as fringe.
GLENN: It's not.
MALKIN: The people that were after me, you know, you might want to comfort yourself into thinking that they are a small bunch. But they have far reach, as you say. They are on both sides of the political aisle. And look, there are representatives in congress who embrace these people. You've got Maurice Hinchey who is the congressman in New York, John Conyers. Of course, Dennis Kucinich who all pander to this kind of extremism. They are capable of much more than shouting and fluffing their stick with conservative journalists who disagree. And I think that's the serious point that has to be made here. These people are moving on to the twin cities and their ilk have demonstrated that they are capable of much more than just sort of these strangely pathetic demonstrations. And that really is my caveat because as much fun as I've been having on the ground covering the Denver circus for the last couple of days. I think we really do have to worry about the kinds of things that they might pull off when they are provoked. Look, it doesn't take so much to provoke them. I am 5' 1 1/2", okay? And this nearly 300 pound man fumed and foamed at the mouth for about 10 minutes before we removed ourselves from this situation. I wasn't going to be bullied and forced by this moron. But the police didn't really do anything and I think that that is kind of symbolic because, you know, you tend not to treat them as seriously as we should sometimes.
GLENN: Yeah, I was talking about these extremists and that includes this just includes all extremists. That includes the, you know, abortion extremists, the KKK, the guys who were arrested in Denver this week with the rifle. They might have been idiots and they might have been high on crack but you know what? We need to listen to what these people are saying and take them seriously.
I'm reminded of how the right bashed me in 1998 when I was on the air in New York and I said, listen to the words of Osama Bin Laden. He is not making threats. He's making promises. And the right came at me like a bag of bricks because they thought I was just trying to, you know, help the Clinton administration. I'm like, I hate the Clinton administration, but you've got to get serious on terrorism. You've got to get serious on terrorism. And I said at the time, there's going to be bodies, blood and buildings in these streets of New York in the next 10 years. I was about six years off. And when it is, then will you get serious about terrorism and extremism? Nope, the answer is again no.
MALKIN: Yeah. Well, there's certainly a lack of gravity here on the ground in Denver about the true threats that we face.
GLENN: Do you believe, do you believe, Michelle, that the Democratic party seems to be beholdened now to because I don't hate Democrats. I don't have a problem with Democrats. I mean, the John McCain ticket is the one that my Democratic grandparents would have voted for. But the Democrats are not Democrats anymore, just like the Republicans. The Republicans are Democrats and the Democrats have become Marxists. I don't think that there is more than 20, maybe 20 to 30% of the people in power in Washington that are from the Democratic party that are that left, but I think they are the ones who have the real control and they're spooky.
MALKIN: Yes. Yeah, they are spooky. This is somewhat of a tangent but not really because, you know, the establishment Democrats here in Denver are trying to distance themselves from all the riffraff on the streets. But this is really their base and you look at Obama and you look at the radical far left Marxists in academia and in the churches that he has aligned himself with for years and years in Chicago, and it's not just Jeremiah Wright and it's not just Bill Ayers but it's the kind of people on the ground who are doing his bidding and
GLENN: Give me some give me more than just "Some people on the ground." Give me real examples who these people are.
MALKIN: Well, let's talk about ACORN, you know, the big fat nonprofit corporation that all our tax dollars go to fund that for decades has used homeless people and criminals to register dead people and illegal aliens and help put people like Obama in office. You know, if not for the muscle, the tax subsidized muscle of ACORN, he wouldn't have been a state legislator and he wouldn't have gone on to the Senate and now the top of the Democrat party ticket. It's astounding that this group has ascended the way it has while, you know, so called fiscal conservatives have looked the other way.
MALKIN: And allowed millions of dollars to be funneled into that group which to this day right now is registering more people to get Obama into the White House.
GLENN: Michelle, the I had a big argument with my managing editor of my magazine and it's not she's an uber liberal and I love her and I respect her and she does me. The only agreement we have because I said to her, you know, this is my magazine; we're going to run it my way. And she said, that's fine. The agreement we made when she first started with me was we will not print anything that is false, we're not going to it will be, you know, obviously my point of view, but she won't be involved. And I said, you don't know me. We're not going to have a problem with that.
We got to this coming October's cover and she had a real problem because she didn't understand what I was saying with it at first and she said, I don't think I can be involved in this, at first. She later joined me and said, okay, I understand now. It is, the cover is the split of Obama's image and half of it he's dressed as the Messiah. The other half he's dressed as Mussolini. And the headline on the magazine is, "Messiah or Mussolini." What people don't understand is Mussolini was loved by the American press. They were loved by the American politicians, loved by the people in Italy until he, you know, did the whole, "Hey, we should throw our hat in with Germany" thing. He was loved. And it is the system that people have been looking for in America, the real leftist elite have been looking for. You see this Greek Temple built for Obama today. What does that tell you?
MALKIN: It's Barackopolis. And look. I think your point about the authoritarian impulse behind Obama and his campaign is right on and it's being illustrated right now. What the mainstream press is not talking about what Barack Obama is doing to try and squelch his critics and people who are questioning his left wing ideological ties. You know, this week his he sicked his lawyers and he sicked all of his Internet minion on TV stations that have dared to air an ad about his long close relationship with Weather Underground's unrepentant terrorist Bill Ayers. And then he went to the Justice Department this week trying and sic the government on the GOP donor that was behind the ad. I then that's not all. First he came to the TV stations, then he came for the GOP donor and now he's after National Review Online journalist Stanley Kurtz who's been at the forefront of getting files dislodged about this. Who's next? Who's next?
GLENN: Michelle, let me ask you this question. What does the freedom of America look like in a year after Barack Obama's inauguration if they have a congress without a filibuster and Barack Obama as President of the United States?
MALKIN: It looks greatly diminished. And I think every independent journalist and talk show host concerned about the Fairness Doctrine ought to be, you know, front and center right now. Worry about it now, not once he's in office because then it will be too late.
GLENN: Michelle, you'll have continuing coverage on your website, MichelleMalkin.com, and I appreciate you being there. And I have to tell you I really felt for you. I watched that video and I thought, you know, there's a guy standing next to you just shouting back at this other guy, peace, peace, peace. He didn't agree with you. But he was just trying to be a normal human being, just peace, man. Relax. And they even shoved him away from you. And I felt for you and I'm glad you're safe.
MALKIN: Hey, thanks a lot, Glenn. I appreciate it.
GLENN: You bet. Bye bye, Michelle.