Glenn Beck: Almost VP


Governor Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota

GLENN: From Los Angeles, California, hello, you sick twisted freak. Third most listened to show in all of America and strangely we're proud of that. Welcome to the program. Boy, we've got a lot of insanity on the plate today. We want to start with the governor of Minnesota, the guy who a lot of people said was going to be the vice president and then, my gosh, John McCain just picked this hate monger of a woman who the latest that I heard was that she now hates Eskimos. I find that a little strange seeing that her husband is half Eskimo but, what do I know. Let me go to Tim Pawlenty now, the governor of Minnesota. How are you?

GOVERNOR PAWLENTY: I'm good, Glenn, although I don't know about the introduction when you say we've got a lot of insanity and then you introduce me.

GLENN: Well, I mean, you are in the political spectrum and I got to tell ya, you know, while I appreciate you and a lot of your positions, oh, my gosh, I don't think I can take politics anymore. I really don't.

GOVERNOR PAWLENTY: Well, I think that Governor Palin was a great pick.

GLENN: Me, too.

GOVERNOR PAWLENTY: And I really appreciate Senator McCain's courage and wisdom because she electrifies the base, she reaches out, got a lot of voters not just outside the Republican party and opens doors in other ways we couldn't reach those voters and I think she is going to be a substantial reason why Senator McCain's elected the next President of the United States.

GLENN: You know what, I have to tell you with all the stuff that has come out about her, first of all, you know, the lie that Trig is somehow or another not her son or you know this latest where she's just a racist that hates Eskimos, to, she's banning books in the library. All of these things are out and out lies. This is why people don't run for higher office. How do you do it?

GOVERNOR PAWLENTY: Well, I think first of all the Obama campaign's getting hysterical. She see what's happening is Senator McCain's searching the polls, a big part of that. So they are trying to discredit her. But it's not working. And when you spread false things, eventually the press and the public figure that out and they will be even more supportive of Governor Palin and Senator McCain but as to how you do it, it's not Tiddlywinks and as long as it relates to issues, as long as it relates to your policy position, either actual or alleged, I think it's fair game to have to discourse. That's why young people ask me, Glenn, should go into public service or politics, I would say it depends. Depends on whether you've got the ability to kind of weather through it. It's not Tiddlywinks. It's stuff.

GLENN: But it's not you know, there's one thing about being taken on, et cetera, et cetera. But some of the stuff that has been said about Sarah Palin is just, I mean, it's beyond compare. I mean, I can't compare it to anything I've ever seen.

GOVERNOR PAWLENTY: It's awful about the good thing is you have places, credible third party sources debunking it and the American people aren't stupid. You know, if you have enough of this debate, they will figure it out over time and that's why you are seeing a surge in the polls for Senator McCain and Governor Palin.

GLENN: You know, they are saying that John McCain, this again the media, that John McCain just didn't do the vetting process, he didn't know until the night before. What kind of vetting process did you go through?

GOVERNOR PAWLENTY: Again I can't speak to other candidates but for me if I had to submit a very, very lengthy set of documents and answer a whole series of questions about every aspect of your life as well as corresponding documents to back it up and plus the

GLENN: What are the questions on there?

GOVERNOR PAWLENTY: Oh, everything relating from your health, you know, your medical conditions to your personal finances, your tax returns, you know, all the controversial political fights you've been in over the years, personal background, personal behaviors, you know, everything. Everything you'd want to know about somebody who might be President or vice president. Plus, you know, plus they did a whole bunch of Internet search and had a separate independent review going on beyond that and with lawyers and the like. So the process, he was extremely thorough from what I can glean from the newspapers. They did a similar process for Governor Palin.

GLENN: Do you as you were going through all of that because I saw some of the questions, have you ever had an affair, have you ever done drugs, have you ever done this. And I was thinking to myself, you just have to be dumb as a box of rocks to lie on that.

GOVERNOR PAWLENTY: You've got to be straightforward and forthcoming. But you look at Governor Palin's record, Glenn, and all the stuff that they brought up so far has been debunked. I know her from the NGA, National Governors Association, RGA, and I don't know everything about her but she is a steadfast, forthright person of deep value and deep conviction and I think she's going to be fine in terms of the vetting. And I would say she's going to be extraordinarily good in terms of the campaign itself.

GLENN: Oh, yeah, she's I just, you know, we followed her since April when Trig was born and just, have just found her to be a remarkable, remarkable woman. I said last week when John McCain gave his speech, he should have given her a position. He should have said, you know, and one of the things I'm going to have her do is, you know, rat these weasels out or go after energy and now she has a position on energy. Any comments or thoughts on that?

GOVERNOR PAWLENTY: Well, it's a natural for her because, of course, Alaska's one of our huge producers of energy and one of Senator McCain's fames is more domestic production, drill here, drill now, drill offshore, you know, do all that we can to stimulate more supply, both of the traditional kind and at least the kind of renewable stuff that makes economic sense. So it's very consistent with a priority team, that campaign is consistent with her background, her area of expertise. So I think having her weigh in on energy and help lead those efforts makes sense.

GLENN: Help me make sense of something. You and John McCain both are for cap and trade. The one company that was the leading champion of cap and trade was Enron because these big companies can trade nothing. They can trade air.

GOVERNOR PAWLENTY: I would say a couple of things. First of all, anything that adds cost to energy prices right now, Glenn, is going to be viewed, you know, with a great amount of concern and so you notice the cap and trade debate has kind of faded into the background and it's unclear, you know, what that would look like when and if it re emerges. I would also say Senator McCain supports that approach but how you do it is really important. And this cap and trade is not the same across the board. There's a lot that rises or falls depending on the details of that and so that's yet to come.

GLENN: But I mean, don't you think that that's just another all it is is another tax. That's all it is.

GOVERNOR PAWLENTY: Well, it depends on how you do it. But my view, personal view of it is this. You can argue, you know, that the world is the globe is warming as it always has for natural reasons but I think the way indicates, at least some of it, you can argue whether it's 1/2% or something more substantial, you know, is caused by human behavior. So there are some things we can reasonably and voluntarily do to reduce the human impact without wrecking the economy or without violating, you know, Republican and privilege principles. I think there's some room within those, that description to do something but what you do and how you do it matters a lot. The details matters a lot. But in the wake of this energy crisis where people are, you know, struggling to pay the bills, that debate on cap and trade has just fallen to the background for understandable reasons.

GLENN: What do you think of the bailout for Fannie and Freddie?

GOVERNOR PAWLENTY: Philosophically I don't like it, Glenn. It's not what government should do but, you know, we guaranteed those entities de facto or implicitly and so to not live up to that word and to allow it to ruin the markets more deeply, would set out deeper problems, deeper concerns but, you know, we violated the philosophical principle some years ago when we implicitly guaranteed those operations and now we've got to back up the guarantee.

GLENN: You know, George Soros' ex partner said that we are more communist today than communist China because of that bailout.

GOVERNOR PAWLENTY: From a conservative standpoint you've got to wonder what we were doing allowing those two entities to get that big, to have an implicit government guarantee. You know, if they go south and royal the housing markets and the economy further, there's all kinds of bigger collateral damage. The problem was when we started with the notion that those were going to be implicitly government backed, government guaranteed agencies, they should have been private market to begin with.

GLENN: What do you think of the Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews being taken off as anchors of MSNBC?

GOVERNOR PAWLENTY: I think it makes a lot of sense because, you know, if you are going to have not advocacy shows but you're going to have news shows where they are reporting on the results of the election and commenting on the election night, you want somebody in those chairs that is not, you know, a partisan or an advocate, at least that dramatically. So it was hard to watch those shows that were reported to be news shows knowing that Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann are, you know, such partisan advocates. It really wasn't an appropriate role for them. So now they can. So now they can be advocates before everybody understands the advocates.

GLENN: Let me see if we agree on this. If MSNBC would have said, you know, and had Keith Olbermann come out and say, look, I'm not a journalist, I'm a commentator, I am clearly for Barack Obama and I want you to know that coming up and here's here we are covering the Democratic convention or the Republican convention, I wouldn't have had a problem with that. It was the

GOVERNOR PAWLENTY: I agree. You and I are in agreement on that. They were holding them out as news anchors.

GLENN: Right.

GOVERNOR PAWLENTY: There was some sort of ethics and credibility around that when in fact they are just obvious advocates. So they have got to recede back to that role of commentators.

GLENN: I appreciate it, governor. Thanks for being on the program. One last question. Do you think it was significant that Hillary Clinton didn't mention Sarah Palin yesterday?

GOVERNOR PAWLENTY: Yeah, I think it was significant and I just think the Sarah Palin ticket is brilliant and substantively and strategically, Glenn. She for all the obvious reasons. I mean, if you are a member and supporter of the military, she has a son in the military. She's one of them. If you are a mom, she's one of you. If you are a parent of a disabled child, she's one of you. If you like to hunt and fish, she's one of you. If you are from small town America, rural America with related concerns, she's one of you. If you are a Sam's Club Republican, she's one of you. On the list she opens up so many doors and pathways to voters that Republicans don't always have or don't traditionally have. It's just terrific. It's a great pick substantively and strategically and I'm not surprised that Senator Clinton didn't take her on because who would want to. That's not a good bet for Senator Clinton.

GLENN: Do me a favor, will you? I know you talk to John McCain. Tell John McCain that yesterday I said on the air, and I know nobody follows me and it doesn't really matter to anybody, but he has convinced me to pull the lever for John McCain with this pick. Absolutely.

GOVERNOR PAWLENTY: What do you mean nobody listens to you? You're a rock star. You are like a Mick Jagger of talk television and radio. You should grow your hair out and do kind of a strut like a Jagger strut.

GLENN: Yeah, that's me, that's me. All right, governor, thank you so much.

GOVERNOR PAWLENTY: All right, goodbye.

GLENN: We'll talk to you again. Bye bye. Okay.

From the moment the 33-year-old Thomas Jefferson arrived at the Continental Congress in Philadelphia in 1776, he was on the radical side. That caused John Adams to like him immediately. Then the Congress stuck Jefferson and Adams together on the five-man committee to write a formal statement justifying a break with Great Britain, and their mutual admiration society began.

Jefferson thought Adams should write the Declaration. But Adams protested, saying, “It can't come from me because I'm obnoxious and disliked." Adams reasoned that Jefferson was not obnoxious or disliked, therefore he should write it. Plus, he flattered Jefferson, by telling him he was a great writer. It was a master class in passing the buck.

So, over the next 17 days, Jefferson holed up in his room, applying his lawyer skills to the ideas of the Enlightenment. He borrowed freely from existing documents like the Virginia Declaration of Rights. He later wrote that “he was not striving for originality of principle or sentiment." Instead, he hoped his words served as “an expression of the American mind."

It's safe to say he achieved his goal.

The five-man committee changed about 25 percent of Jefferson's first draft of the Declaration before submitting it to Congress. Then, Congress altered about one-fifth of that draft. But most of the final Declaration's words are Jefferson's, including the most famous passage — the Preamble — which Congress left intact. The result is nothing less than America's mission statement, the words that ultimately bind the nation together. And words that we desperately need to rediscover because of our boiling partisan rage.

The Declaration is brilliant in structure and purpose. It was designed for multiple audiences: the King of Great Britain, the colonists, and the world. And it was designed for multiple purposes: rallying the troops, gaining foreign allies, and announcing the creation of a new country.

The Declaration is structured in five sections: the Introduction, Preamble, the Body composed of two parts, and the Conclusion. It's basically the most genius breakup letter ever written.

In the Introduction, step 1 is the notificationI think we need to break up. And to be fair, I feel I owe you an explanation...

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another…

The Continental Congress felt they were entitled by “the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God" to “dissolve the political bands," but they needed to prove the legitimacy of their cause. They were defying the world's most powerful nation and needed to motivate foreign allies to join the effort. So, they set their struggle within the entire “Course of human events." They're saying, this is no petty political spat — this is a major event in world history.

Step 2 is declaring what you believe in, your standardsHere's what I'm looking for in a healthy relationship...

This is the most famous part of the Declaration; the part school children recite — the Preamble:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

That's as much as many Americans know of the Declaration. But the Preamble is the DNA of our nation, and it really needs to be taken as a whole:

That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

The Preamble takes us through a logical progression: All men are created equal; God gives all humans certain inherent rights that cannot be denied; these include the rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; to protect those rights, we have governments set up; but when a government fails to protect our inherent rights, people have the right to change or replace it.

Government is only there to protect the rights of mankind. They don't have any power unless we give it to them. That was an extraordinarily radical concept then and we're drifting away from it now.

The Preamble is the justification for revolution. But note how they don't mention Great Britain yet. And again, note how they frame it within a universal context. These are fundamental principles, not just squabbling between neighbors. These are the principles that make the Declaration just as relevant today. It's not just a dusty parchment that applied in 1776.

Step 3 is laying out your caseHere's why things didn't work out between us. It's not me, it's you...

This is Part 1 of the Body of the Declaration. It's the section where Jefferson gets to flex his lawyer muscles by listing 27 grievances against the British crown. This is the specific proof of their right to rebellion:

He has obstructed the administration of justice...

For imposing taxes on us without our consent...

For suspending our own legislatures...

For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us...

Again, Congress presented these “causes which impel them to separation" in universal terms to appeal to an international audience. It's like they were saying, by joining our fight you'll be joining mankind's overall fight against tyranny.

Step 4 is demonstrating the actions you took I really tried to make this relationship work, and here's how...

This is Part 2 of the Body. It explains how the colonists attempted to plead their case directly to the British people, only to have the door slammed in their face:

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury...

They too have been deaf to the voice of justice... We must, therefore... hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

This basically wrapped up America's argument for independence — we haven't been treated justly, we tried to talk to you about it, but since you refuse to listen and things are only getting worse, we're done here.

Step 5 is stating your intent — So, I think it's best if we go our separate ways. And my decision is final...

This is the powerful Conclusion. If people know any part of the Declaration besides the Preamble, this is it:

...that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved...

They left no room for doubt. The relationship was over, and America was going to reboot, on its own, with all the rights of an independent nation.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

The message was clear — this was no pitchfork mob. These were serious men who had carefully thought through the issues before taking action. They were putting everything on the line for this cause.

The Declaration of Independence is a landmark in the history of democracy because it was the first formal statement of a people announcing their right to choose their own government. That seems so obvious to us now, but in 1776 it was radical and unprecedented.

In 1825, Jefferson wrote that the purpose of the Declaration was “not to find out new principles, or new arguments, never before thought of… but to place before mankind the common sense of the subject, in terms so plain and firm… to justify ourselves in the independent stand we are compelled to take."

You're not going to do better than the Declaration of Independence. Sure, it worked as a means of breaking away from Great Britain, but its genius is that its principles of equality, inherent rights, and self-government work for all time — as long as we actually know and pursue those principles.

On June 7, 1776, the Second Continental Congress met in Philadelphia at the Pennsylvania State House, better known today as Independence Hall. Virginia delegate Richard Henry Lee introduced a motion calling for the colonies' independence. The “Lee Resolution" was short and sweet:

Resolved, That these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent States, that they are absolved from all allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain is, and ought to be, totally dissolved.

Intense debate followed, and the Congress voted 7 to 5 (with New York abstaining) to postpone a vote on Lee's Resolution. They called a recess for three weeks. In the meantime, the delegates felt they needed to explain what they were doing in writing. So, before the recess, they appointed a five-man committee to come up with a formal statement justifying a break with Great Britain. They appointed two men from New England — Roger Sherman and John Adams; two from the middle colonies — Robert Livingston and Benjamin Franklin; and one Southerner — Thomas Jefferson. The responsibility for writing what would become the Declaration of Independence fell to Jefferson.

In the rotunda of the National Archives building in Washington, D.C., there are three original documents on permanent display: the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and the Declaration of Independence. These are the three pillars of the United States, yet America barely seems to know them anymore. We need to get reacquainted — quickly.

In a letter to his friend John Adams in 1816, Jefferson wrote: “I like the dreams of the future, better than the history of the past."

America used to be a forward-looking nation of dreamers. We still are in spots, but the national attitude that we hear broadcast loudest across media is not looking toward the future with optimism and hope. In late 2017, a national poll found 59% of Americans think we are currently at the “lowest point in our nation's history that they can remember."

America spends far too much time looking to the past for blame and excuse. And let's be honest, even the Right is often more concerned with “owning the left" than helping point anyone toward the practical principles of the Declaration of Independence. America has clearly lost touch with who we are as a nation. We have a national identity crisis.

The Declaration of Independence is America's thesis statement, and without it America doesn't exist.

It is urgent that we get reacquainted with the Declaration of Independence because postmodernism would have us believe that we've evolved beyond the America of our founding documents, and thus they're irrelevant to the present and the future. But the Declaration of Independence is America's thesis statement, and without it America doesn't exist.

Today, much of the nation is so addicted to partisan indignation that "day-to-day" indignation isn't enough to feed the addiction. So, we're reaching into America's past to help us get our fix. In 2016, Democrats in the Louisiana state legislature tabled a bill that would have required fourth through sixth graders to recite the opening lines of the Declaration. They didn't table it because they thought it would be too difficult or too patriotic. They tabled it because the requirement would include the phrase “all men are created equal" and the progressives in the Louisiana legislature didn't want the children to have to recite a lie. Representative Barbara Norton said, “One thing that I do know is, all men are not created equal. When I think back in 1776, July the fourth, African Americans were slaves. And for you to bring a bill to request that our children will recite the Declaration, I think it's a little bit unfair to us. To ask our children to recite something that's not the truth. And for you to ask those children to repeat the Declaration stating that all men's are free. I think that's unfair."

Remarkable — an elected representative saying it wouldn't be fair for students to have to recite the Declaration because “all men are not created equal." Another Louisiana Democrat explained that the government born out of the Declaration “was used against races of people." I guess they missed that part in school where they might have learned that the same government later made slavery illegal and amended the Constitution to guarantee all men equal protection under the law. The 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments were an admission of guilt by the nation regarding slavery, and an effort to right the wrongs.

Yet, the progressive logic goes something like this: many of the men who signed the Declaration of Independence, including Thomas Jefferson who wrote it, owned slaves; slavery is evil; therefore, the Declaration of Independence is not valid because it was created by evil slave owners.

It's a sad reality that the left has a very hard time appreciating the universal merits of the Declaration of Independence because they're so hung up on the long-dead issue of slavery. And just to be clear — because people love to take things out of context — of course slavery was horrible. Yes, it is a total stain on our history. But defending the Declaration of Independence is not an effort to excuse any aspect of slavery.

Okay then, people might say, how could the Founders approve the phrase “All men are created equal," when many of them owned slaves? How did they miss that?

They didn't miss it. In fact, Thomas Jefferson included an anti-slavery passage in his first draft of the Declaration. The paragraph blasted King George for condoning slavery and preventing the American Colonies from passing legislation to ban slavery:

He has waged cruel war against human nature itself, violating its most sacred rights to life and liberty in the persons of a distant people who never offended him, captivating and carrying them into slavery in another hemisphere... Determined to keep open a market where men should be bought and sold, he has prostituted his negative for suppressing every legislative attempt to prohibit or to restrain this execrable commerce.

We don't say “execrable" that much anymore. It means, utterly detestable, abominable, abhorrent — basically very bad.

Jefferson was upset when Georgia and North Carolina threw up the biggest resistance to that paragraph. Ultimately, those two states twisted Congress' arm to delete the paragraph.

Still, how could a man calling the slave trade “execrable" be a slaveowner himself? No doubt about it, Jefferson was a flawed human being. He even had slaves from his estate in Virginia attending him while he was in Philadelphia, in the very apartment where he was writing the Declaration.

Many of the Southern Founders deeply believed in the principles of the Declaration yet couldn't bring themselves to upend the basis of their livelihood. By 1806, Virginia law made it more difficult for slave owners to free their slaves, especially if the owner had significant debts as Jefferson did.

At the same time, the Founders were not idiots. They understood the ramifications of signing on to the principles described so eloquently in the Declaration. They understood that logically, slavery would eventually have to be abolished in America because it was unjust, and the words they were committing to paper said as much. Remember, John Adams was on the committee of five that worked on the Declaration and he later said that the Revolution would never be complete until the slaves were free.

Also, the same generation that signed the Declaration started the process of abolition by banning the importation of slaves in 1807. Jefferson was President at the time and he urged Congress to pass the law.

America has an obvious road map that, as a nation, we're not consulting often enough.

The Declaration took a major step toward crippling the institution of slavery. It made the argument for the first time about the fundamental rights of all humans which completely undermined slavery. Planting the seeds to end slavery is not nearly commendable enough for leftist critics, but you can't discount the fact that the seeds were planted. It's like they started an expiration clock for slavery by approving the Declaration. Everything that happened almost a century later to end slavery, and then a century after that with the Civil Rights movement, flowed from the principles voiced in the Declaration.

Ironically for a movement that calls itself progressive, it is obsessed with retrying and judging the past over and over. Progressives consider this a better use of time than actually putting past abuses in the rearview and striving not to be defined by ancestral failures.

It can be very constructive to look to the past, but not when it's used to flog each other in the present. Examining history is useful in providing a road map for the future. And America has an obvious road map that, as a nation, we're not consulting often enough. But it's right there, the original, under glass. The ink is fading, but the words won't die — as long as we continue to discuss them.

'Good Morning Texas' gives exclusive preview of Mercury One museum

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Mercury One is holding a special exhibition over the 4th of July weekend, using hundreds of artifacts, documents and augmented reality experiences to showcase the history of slavery — including slavery today — and a path forward. Good Morning Texas reporter Paige McCoy Smith went through the exhibit for an exclusive preview with Mercury One's chief operating officer Michael Little on Tuesday.

Watch the video below to see the full preview.

Click here to purchase tickets to the museum (running from July 4 - 7).

Over the weekend, journalist Andy Ngo and several other apparent right-leaning people were brutally beaten by masked-gangs of Antifa protesters in Portland, Oregon. Short for "antifascist," Antifa claims to be fighting for social justice and tolerance — by forcibly and violently silencing anyone with opposing opinions. Ngo, who was kicked, punched, and sprayed with an unknown substance, is currently still in the hospital with a "brain bleed" as a result of the savage attack. Watch the video to get the details from Glenn.