Bill Bennett Interview

GLENN BECK PROGRAM


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GLENN: Now, Bill Bennett is on the phone with me and, Bill, I just wanted to tell you something I don't think I've ever told you. You changed my life and I don't -- I am not exaggerating by that. You actually changed my life.

BENNETT: Really?

GLENN: I read the Book of Virtues when my kids were little and I was so taken by it, I read it myself without the kids. And in there is a letter from Thomas Jefferson to Peter Carr. You know that one?

BENNETT: Yeah, sure.

  America: The Last Best Hope


by William J. Bennett

GLENN: And I am a recovering alcoholic and I had just sobered up and I had just decided that I was -- I didn't really believe in anything that I hadn't been told. I didn't discover anything. Here I am 30 something years old. I didn't know any -- I didn't know what truth was because I had never really searched for it. And I'm reading this in your book, "Book of Virtues" and the line is one of the only things that I had ever tried to memorize, it just made such an impact on me is above all things, when it comes to religion, fix reason firmly in her seat for if there be a God he must surely rather honest questions over blindfolded fear.

BENNETT: Yeah.

GLENN: And that changed the course of my life.

BENNETT: Wow.

GLENN: I want to thank you, sir.

BENNETT: Well, I'm on talk radio now. I'm not supposed to be speechless, but I am. Thank you, Glenn. Did you get my note?

GLENN: I didn't get your note.

BENNETT: Well, you get so much mail, gosh knows. I used a regular, you know, handwritten note, not an iPod, not an email. Someone told me, and, you know, may not be true but someone told me that you said on the radio that on very special occasions in people's lives, you send them the "Book of Virtues."

GLENN: I do. Whenever there's a birth of a friend or anybody, that is a guaranteed gift that they get.

BENNETT: All right, somebody needs a lift and a laugh, I'm going to send them "An Inconvenient Book."

GLENN: Hey, suicidal, have you read this?

BENNETT: No, but the thing about it, though, I am interested in the paragraph by paragraph business with Al Gore.

GLENN: Oh, it's -- you know, it only took about 19 pages to take him apart and he's been eviscerated. It's not a tough job but I was glad to do it.

BENNETT: Maybe you should send it to the White House since Mr. Gore's going.

GLENN: Yes, right. I want to talk to you about an idea that I had, and I know you have a book out called America, The Last Best Hope and it is Volume 2. It's the history of the 20th century.

BENNETT: What it is, Glenn, let me explain it. It's volumes 1 and 2. They are out in a box set with a CD that we did called Remembering Ronald Reagan. I put the books out separately first but Volume 2 came out the day of the Blacksburg shooting and so it was, you know, it was another casualty of that day, a surely less important casualty than the others. So we're trying to make a push on the two volumes now because we got no attention then for understandable reasons. It is a two volume -- it's a history of the United States, it's to correct, you know, what our kids don't know and it's to make it readable and interesting. I can't say it's funny but I do think it's a good -- it's well told.

GLENN: I have to tell you I can't wait to read it. I haven't read it yet but I can't wait to read it for a couple of reasons. Have you seen The History of the English Speaking Peoples 1900 to 2000?

BENNETT: Yes, I have.

GLENN: That is the most shocking, politically incorrect book I have -- 

BENNETT: Yeah.

GLENN: It is worth the price of the book for the last paragraph alone that says if -- and I'm paraphrasing. I'm butchering it horribly, but someday when the power of these people is gone, the world will weep when they realized what they have lost.

BENNETT: Yeah.

GLENN: And I just can't believe it and I would assume that you have written our history in the same way, that it is pro us.

BENNETT: It's definitely pro us in this way. I quote Moynihan in the beginning. I quote a Democrat, Pat Moynihan saying, you know, am I embarrassed to speak for a less and perfect democracy; I am not; find me a better one. Have we done terrible things? Yes, we have. How did our people find out about them? They found out about them by reading the newspaper and listening. But we have done so immeasurably many more good things that we are still indeed the last best hope of Earth. I say it's the second greatest story ever told, the best political story ever told.

GLENN: Bill, I am -- are you familiar with Skousen?

BENNETT: Skousen, yeah, sure. Not for a while but yes. Cleon Skousen.

GLENN: Yeah, Cleon Skousen, he's been dead for a while but just fantastic. There's a book out, I know it was -- I think it was popular with Reagan, the 5,000 Year Leap, at least there's a quote on the back of the book.

BENNETT: Yes.

GLENN: But he's fantastic. I read, I went back because I'm so concerned about how our country has just gone out of the tracks. We're not even -- we don't even recognize what we are anymore. And I went back and I read "The Naked Communist" and at the end of that, Skousen -- that was a book that was written in 1956. They end of that Skousen says everybody, if you really want to combat this, every person must have a freedom library. And what it is is a collection of books that tells the truth of who we really are.

BENNETT: Yeah.

GLENN: Because he predicted in the Fifties, someday soon you won't be able to find the truth in schools or in libraries or anywhere else because it won't be print and more. So you must collect those books. Can you hold on for a second?

BENNETT: Of course.

GLENN: I need to take a break and then I'd like to pick your brain of what you think those books should be, where do you even start.

BENNETT: Sure, I will.

GLENN: We'll do that here in just a second.

William Bennett, the name of his book is America, The Last Best Hope, Volume 1 and 2. Back with him in just a second.

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GLENN: Came out today. I'm talking to William Bennett about a freedom library. It's an idea of read from Cleon Skousen from his book in the 1950s, "The Naked Communist" and where he talked about someday the history of this country's going to be lost because it's going to be hijacked by intellectuals and communists and everything else and I think we're there. A friend of mine told me that they had a test come back, I believe for their second grader, and, Bill, it said how many Thanksgivings are there in America. Do you know what the answer is?

BENNETT: No.

GLENN: Two. There was one with the pilgrims and then there was another one, and I've got to book this one up. There's another one where Mexico won a big battle and they give thanks like the 1st of April or, you know, the first couple of weeks of April.

BENNETT: Missed it. I'll check.

GLENN: I didn't hear that.

BENNETT: Well, it's our worst subject. American history is our worst subject and I used to report on these numbers when I was secretary of Ed, history and math. But we're worst in American history and that's a shame.

GLENN: Where would you start on a freedom library to be able to make sure -- that's why I love the "Book of Virtues" so much. You have the, you know, "I cannot tell a lie, I did chop down the cherry tree" and I don't even know where I learned that, but I know I learned it as a kid and I wonder what kids are learning that now. I bet they're not.

BENNETT: No, they're not. They're learning other stuff but, you know, I'm in favor of knowledge. I don't care. You know, it's fine to learn about this Mexican day but let's get the other stuff in there, too, and let's get the ones that are so formative. I'll give you the simple freedom library. You know, you look at the great figures. Often there's just one or two books. They said Lincoln. You know this, Glenn, Lincoln, it was Shakespeare and the Bible. That's all he needed. My American reader, if you only had two, say you restricted me to two books, the Federalist Papers and Huckleberry Finn.

GLENN: You know, it's so funny that you said that because I've been thinking Mark Twain and I couldn't think of anything other than Huck Finn because it shows a slice of who we really are.

BENNETT: Yeah, it is. And it's not -- you know, it's not just back to the raft, phone, and the race issue. This idea, and you know, you and I grew up differently, different backgrounds but it is the quintessential American idea. Every boy thinks at some point about getting on that raft, you know, and going down the Mississippi, you know, finding your way, you know. And so it is the quintessential American story.

When I had my first job in government, Glenn, I asked 100 famous Americans, 50 liberal, 50 conservative, what are the five books everybody should read by the time they finish high school, and that was one of them. Believe it or not, that was one of the top five and there's a reason, you know, that book is there.

GLENN: You know, in your history Books of America, Volume 1, Volume 2, "America, the Last Best Hope," you said that America has -- this is just in the introduction, America has a knack for choosing the right leaders when the nation most needs them.

BENNETT: Yeah.

GLENN: I have to tell you, I don't think we've needed a leader this badly in quite some time and I have yet -- everybody claims they're Ronald Reagan. I have yet to see a Ronald Reagan or a Winston Churchill anywhere on the planet today.

BENNETT: Right. But remember, Ronald Reagan was not Ronald Reagan before he took office. Remember the worries about him? Go back and read what some of our dearest conservative friends were writing about Reagan, things he had done, the taxes in California, signing the abortion bill, all sorts of things. You know, Shakespeare says some are born great, some achieve greatness and have greatness thrust upon them and I think with Reagan it was a combination. The times partly made him.

GLENN: Do you believe that -- do you still believe America will choose the right leader for our times?

BENNETT: It will when it has to. My guess is with you, Glenn. I think this is the time for, if for nothing else more than what you're talking about on your show. I don't get to hear the radio show so often, but I see the TV show. The moral clarity, which I think is what you're after, and that is really what we're after. I just saw your show yesterday, you know, talking about the immigration issues, talking about the other issues. Just to see the world the way it is.

GLENN: Yeah. Just tell the truth.

BENNETT: Yeah.

GLENN: That's it.

BENNETT: Tell the truth.

GLENN: Yeah. Do you have a candidate? Do you have somebody that you think, this probably is my guy?

BENNETT: Nope, not yet. I probably wouldn't say so if I do. I like the Republicans. I think there's something to be said and something to be said against each of the frontrunners.

GLENN: Yeah, I agree. I don't know of a time when we've had this depth of choice.

BENNETT: It's great, yeah. I could see each of these guys, the top four or five, you know, emerging as a great leader, too.

GLENN: Bill Bennett, thank you so much, man. I appreciate it and really, I mean it sincerely. You did change my life just because you had the courage to tell the history of America accurately and I appreciate it.

BENNETT: Well, thank you. You almost changed mine when I started in radio. You said, do you think you're going to be able to do this? I said I don't know. So I almost changed my mind.

GLENN: Well, there you go.

BENNETT: Thanks, Glenn.

GLENN: You bet. Thanks. Bill Bennett.

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Following the U.S. Supreme Court's decision to overturn Roe v. Wade, a transgender activist called for a "Supreme Court Assassination Challenge" on Twitter, according to screenshots captured of the now-deleted tweet.

Activist Eli Erlick, a founding member of Trans Student Educational Resources (TSER) and creator of the controversial "gender identity" teaching tool for children called the "Gender Unicorn," tweeted and later deleted the disturbing remark on Friday, according to the Washington Free Beacon.

Sen. Marsha Blackburn (R-TN) also caught a screenshot of the tweet before it was deleted.

"The unhinged radical left is calling for the assassination of our Supreme Court Justices. That's not the way to disagree with a decision in America. It is unacceptable, and Biden’s DOJ must immediately act," Blackburn responded on Twitter.

Erlich then tried to play off her call to assassinate Supreme Court justices as a hilarious joke only Gen Z and Millennials would understand, apparently not understanding the seriousness of the attempted assassination of Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh just three weeks ago.

Erlick isn't the only Left-winger to make incendiary calls since the Supreme Court's Roe v. Wade decision. Here are just a few examples:

  • Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) called on people to “defy" the Supreme Court.
  • Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) called for people to get “into the streets” alongside radical communist leader who wants to 'overthrow' the American system.
  • Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot (D) yelled "F*** Clarence Thomas" on a public stage for all to see and hear.
  • House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) suggested that Supreme Court Justices Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh lied to Congress.
  • And of course, "TheView" host Whoopi Goldberg issued a disgusting racist threat toward Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas.
Filling in for Glenn Beck on the radio program, BlazeTV hosts Pat Gray and Stu Burguiere took a look at these and other stunning examples of leftist lunacy over the Supreme Court's decision to overturn Roe v. Wade.
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Many members of the far-left already are calling for a ‘Night of Rage’ after the Supreme Court’s 6-3 decision to overturn Roe v. Wade, and the White House has been discussing plans to defy the ruling too. In fact, one idea floated by Biden Administration officials, according to the New York Times, includes providing abortions on military bases. So, will America experience another summer of riots? Are YOUR taxpayer dollars at risk? And what does this mean for deep-blue states? Josh Hammer, legal expert and opinion editor for Newsweek, joins Glenn to discuss what may come next...

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GLENN: Josh Hammer, he's the opinion editor of Newsweek. He's the host of the Josh Hammer show. He is really quite brilliant. One of the leading minds in the conservative movement, I think. Josh Hammer joins us now.

To tell us, what did you find in this decision?

JOSH: Glenn, great to be back with you, on such a momentous, and really such an emotional day, honestly. So, you know, look, as you said, this dropped recently. Funny enough, I was in the middle of getting a guest lecture from an organization on the advisory board as to when it drops. So I barely had any time to kind of skim through, let alone guess the concerning dissenting opinions. But it looks like this looks very similar, to the draft opinion that was leaked, by the Politico story, a month and a half ago, in early May. And I think those of us who were praying that the five justices from this leaked draft opinion, would have the fortitude to stiffen their spines against this unprecedented assault. Now knows that our prayers were answered, Glenn. That's really my takeaway right now.

This looks a lot like the leaked opinion. Justice Thomas and Justice Kavanaugh have some reconcurring opinions.

But unbelievable. And really just holding aside the constitutional law stuff for a second hear. Just speaking as pro-lifers, on a day like today, I think we really just need to pause. And I tweeted this out earlier. We need to just be grateful for our half century of pro-life activist forbearers. You know, this -- Glenn, this issue could have gone away after 1973. That was a long time ago. 1973. I mean, this issue could have just gone away. We owe a tremendous debt of gratitude to the pro-life moral activist. Political activist. And, of course, yes. Legal activist. Who fought day in and day out, that makes sure this great injustice stayed front and center of our national, political conscience. And in many days, the culmination of a half century of fighting for truth and justice. But in many ways, it's also a new beginning for the pro-life fight as well, interestingly.

STU: How do you mean a new beginning for the fight? I just it's going to turn, I think we're going to see abortion turn even darker in those states that allow it. Is that -- is that what you're meaning by this?

JOSH: Well, look, for a half century now, Roe vs. Wade, and its project any, specifically, the Planned Parenthood versus Casey case of 1992.

They took away from the states obviously. They arrogated authority away from the states, the ability to attempt to nationally codify one view of the morality of abortion.

It happened to be a profoundly immoral view. So these -- the fight now shifts to the states. And the pro-life activists. And all the 50 states. Especially, obviously in red states. Purple states. I mean, admittedly some blue states like New York and California, probably won't be able to touch them there.

But we have to make sure that our side is well positioned in the state Capitols for every red, purplish, probably even light blue state, to make sure we fight for successful, cogent, and morally consistent pro-life legislation. The state of Oklahoma, actually, just north of Texas. Right where you are now, Glenn. They have been leading on this actually. Governor Kevin Stitt signed into law, a fantastic pro-life bill there in Oklahoma. A few weeks ago. Maybe a month ago or so at this point, that basically just bans abortion straightforward from conception. And there are some -- you know, obviously, likable the mother. So forth. But we really need to start thinking about trying to craft legislation now, at the state level. But to your point, I do fear that the blue states will only double down in their radicalism. Unfortunately within that will only lead to an ever greater divide, in our country, that we have today. But obviously, at the end of the day. We're going to save at the end of the day, millions and millions of unborn children. We are going to save human beings who can grow up to cure cancer, who can win Nobel prices.

I mean, this is just a tremendous win for the human species. I don't know how to say it other than that.

GLENN: I will tell you, I saw the stat, that I think it was last year or the year before. 20 percent of all pregnancies ended in abortion. 20 percent.

JOSH: Wow.

GLENN: That is -- that is a shocking number. And we do have our -- our work cut out for us. Because I -- I think that these states are going to double down. But I think, you know -- God doesn't waste anything. You know, there is no waste with God. Even the -- even the worst things that could possibly happen, turn out to be something good. You know what I mean? You're like, holy cow, how did that just happen.

And I think that evil is going to fully come unmasked. I'm telling you, Josh. I don't know how you feel about this. I think this could be the day of America's Kristallnacht. I can see these pro-life centers being burned to the ground today. They're calling for a night of rage around the country. I think evil is going to show itself. And that will scare the American people, hopefully.

JOSH: You know, I've been thinking about this a lot this week, actually. Because I've been bracing for a new kind of George Floyd summer of love, happening this summer. Coming to a city or suburb near you. Unfortunately, myself. Look, I live in Florida. I know, Glenn, you live in Texas. It is in moments like this, where I do think that where you live matters. And who your mayor is. Who your governor is, matters.

Because law and order and rioting and anarchy is not really a federal issue. It is to a limited extent. June 2020, Tom Cotton wrote this op-ed that was pretty controversial at the time.

I happen to agree with it. Where he said, quote, unquote, send in the troops. And there is some federal legislation from the reconstruction era that would justify that.

But most kind of quelling and quashing of anarchy does happen. Constitutionally speaking, at the state and local level. So at a moment like this, where I fear that you're probably not wrong. I take some solace. That Governor DeSantis is my governor. I think Texans should take some solace, that they are represented by -- by a Republican governor. The legislature there as well. So I -- I fear that you are right. I pray obviously, that no one -- it's hard.

I fear that it's something -- that something bad is happening. At the end of the day, of course. It does not mean that justices cannot do what they are supposed to do. So thank God they did that.

GLENN: So, Josh, have you looked into what the White House has been saying? The White House yesterday. In fact, do we have a clip of -- of this?

What the White House said yesterday, about the guns. And then they were turned to the -- the Scott us ruling, for Roe vs. Wade. Do we have that, please?

JOSH: Will the president accept this decision, even if he disagrees with it?

VOICE: I think it's going to come from the Supreme Court. So it's a decision we certainly are going to respond to. I'll leave it at that. Just like any other Supreme Court decision. Just like the one they did today on guns.

GLENN: So the White House won't say that they're going to accept it.

Which I don't think they will. They're talking now about taking doctors and moving them into places like Oklahoma or Texas, where abortions will be outlawed. And putting doctors on our military bases to perform abortions.

I mean, where does this go, when you have a government, that is in defiance of -- of one branch of the government?

JOSH: So there's a lot to unpack here. So we should start from first principles. The idea of judicial supremacy, and this is a peculiar thing, to say on a day like today, where such a pro-life victory has happened in Italy. But if we're going to be consistent here, the idea of judicial supremacy. The idea that the justices, have the sole and exclusive ability to interpret the Constitution for themselves. And no other Constitutional actor, in article one or article two, let alone the state. Has the ability to tentatively interpret it. That is erroneous. In fact, actually it was really Abraham Lincoln actually, who in the Dred Scott case, famously opposed judicial supremacy and flouted the Dred Scott ruling, at least as it pertains to everybody other than Dred Scott himself. I have actually argued, a former legal scholarship, in a law review article actually, that the Laconian view of how each branch of government should interpret the Constitution for itself, is correct.

Having said that. Having said that, there is a thing called prudence. And there is a thing called comedy. And in a moment like today, when it really does look like -- and I agree with you, that we are now bracing for riots through the streets. When the political rhetoric is at DEFCON one. When people are trying to assassinate Supreme Court justices. I think it would be -- at its bare minimum, a profoundly imprudent act. For the Biden administration, to try to undermine this ruling.

Now, what they might do, is they might try to kind of issue some kind of executive orders, or issue some regulations, that might try to kind of undermine it, at the edges here. But at the end of the day, the idea that this returns to the state. There's not really a whole lot they can do about that. Basically, at this point, throughout the country. Kentucky within West Virginia. Kansas. Whatever. If they want to go ahead and ban abortion, what can the Biden administration literally do about that? I mean, short of sending in the National Guard, to protect Planned Parenthood, if the state legislature of Kentucky goes ahead and bans it. There's not a whole lot they can do. And it's very difficult to envision a world, in which the Biden administration literally sends in troops to red states, to protect Planned Parenthood, if that state legislature goes ahead and bans it. So for practically speaking. This is a lot of tough talk and rhetoric. Obviously the campaign here in 2022. There's not really a whole lot that practically speaking, they can do to actually prevent red and purple states from enacting pro-life legislation.

GLENN: I'm glad to -- I'm glad to hear that. I know that they have been working on things. I mean, he has said, you know, there's executive orders, that I can employ. There are things that I can do. He's talked about a national public health emergency. Which I think is just -- is crazy. But I would hope, that the president would come out and say, we strongly disagree with this. And you're right. The court is not the end all. But the court did not end abortion. It just said, the people should decide. I think that's the best kind of court ruling, on any of it. The people should decide what this is. And send it back to the states. Josh, I thank you very much. Appreciate your time. Was there -- there was another ruling, that came out today. Was it important?

JOSH: Oh, no. In comparison to this. A total nothing burger. A 5-4 decision on Medicare reimbursement related. So nothing, honestly.

GLENN: Great. Thank you very much. Appreciate it, Josh. Josh Hammer, opinion editor for Newsweek. And the host of the Josh Hammer show.

GLENN: There are two things trending on twitter right now.

Number one is praise God.

Number two trend is Night of Rage.

Good verses evil.

Build up or tear down.

'Lord, we are SORRY it has taken us this long': BlazeTV hosts react to historic Roe v. Wade decision

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The Supreme Court of the United States officially overturned Roe V. Wade, and the debate over abortion rights has been given back to the states. On this historic day, BlazeTV hosts celebrate the Supreme Court's incredible decision and take a look at some of the insane reactions as the left comes completely undone.

Jason Whitlock: Today will forever stand as a pivotal moment in our nation’s history

The Supreme Court of the United States overturned Roe v. Wade. The decision and the reaction to it have already revealed a lot about our people and politics. Pro-life groups celebrate, pro-choice groups call for “a night of rage,” and Nancy Pelosi just seems completely confused by the United States Constitution.

Glenn Beck reacts LIVE to Roe v. Wade ruling: 'Lord, we are SORRY it has taken us this long'

I never thought that in my lifetime, I would see Roe v. Wade be overturned. But today, that day has come. The Supreme Court has voted 6 to 3 to return decisions about abortion to the states. But this fight isn't over. We are about to see good versus evil side by side. Many states will stand with the unborn. But others will become abortion mills. It's your turn to choose now, America!

Allie Beth Stuckey: 'Praise God, Roe v. Wade is overturned!'

I don't know about you, but I just had the most euphoric feelings. It almost seems too good to be true. I didn't think there was any way that this would actually happen, especially with all the backlash, intimidation, and violence toward the Supreme Court justices. And yet, here we are. Roe v. Wade has been overturned. This is an amazing day!

Dave Rubin: Big disagreement on what happens next now that Roe v. Wade is overturned

Dave Rubin, Libby Emmons, Jeffrey A. Tucker, and David Reaboi debate what will happen in the wake of the Supreme Court’s breaking decision on Roe v. Wade. Now that abortion rights have been pushed back to the states, will there be a summer of massive riots or not? Will the Roe v. Wade ruling make America’s political polarization significantly worse?

Stu Burguiere: Here are the reasons SCOTUS overturned Roe v. Wade

I never thought this would happen. I never thought I would see this day. I just never ever ever ever never ever believed that Roe v. Wade would actually be overturned. I really didn't. But let's take a look at the reasons this day has finally come ...

The Rick & Bubba Show: 'This is history! Unfortunately we're 60 million lives too late'

We were live on the air when news broke of the Supreme Court decision to overturn Roe v. Wade.