|Glenn talks to John McCain's campaign manager Rick Davis.|
GLENN: 888 727 BECK, 888 727 BECK. We go to Rick Davis, the man who is going to be the new Karl Rove if McCain wins. I mean, that means you are going evil. Do you know that, Rick? You are going to be labeled evil for the rest of your life.
DAVIS: Thanks, Glenn, I appreciate you handing the Democrats another TV commercial.
GLENN: Well, there you go. I'm just saying, I'm just saying. Rick, let me first say this maybe you don't because, like, four people listen to me. But the I have been tough on John McCain, I have been wondering who I was going to vote for. I have to tell you, his judgment, off the charts with Sarah Palin. I am going to vote for John McCain.
DAVIS: Hey, you heard it here first. That's great.
GLENN: She is a remarkable woman and exactly you guys now have the real message of change. The one that Barack Obama hasn't been able to get out for the last couple of years, you guys have the living example of it now.
DAVIS: That's right. And not only the living example of it but two people who actually know how to shake it up, who are completely in sync on what they want to do to Washington, and all the powers that they have available to them. So it's going to be an exciting period of time.
GLENN: So let's talk a little bit about the economy and I heard Joe Biden on NBC this morning, and you have please make this into a TV commercial. You have got to do this. He said that they are going to lower taxes but they are going to go after they are going to raise taxes on all of these evil rich people, et cetera, et cetera. I think it's Meredith Viera said, well, there are a lot of economists who said that would be bad for the economy. He said no economist has ever said that, which I was amazed at but you didn't need an economist. Didn't Barack Obama just two weeks ago on Meet the Press say that if the economy is bad, he won't push for the Bush tax cuts to go away?
DAVIS: Yeah, you know, here's the problem you have with Obama and Biden and their ever changing positions. They've had about four different tax plans in four different months. Every time that they go down in the polls, they go out and produce another tax plan. They've almost got to the point where they've taken the John McCain tax plan and put their name on it. And so here's what the real scary thing is. They really don't have a plan and they don't have any experience and they have absolutely no idea what they're going to do to the American economy. And what that means is more volatility, more unpredictability, and it doesn't settle the markets the way we need. John McCain has had one plan since he started this campaign 18 months ago. He stuck to that plan. It's a good plan. It lowers the burden on the American family. It puts everybody back to work. And what more importantly it does, it puts teeth into the kind of regulatory environment we need for Wall Street so that these guys don't go out of control and ruin our economy.
GLENN: Well, hang on just a second. Let me hold your feet to the fire on this one. What kind of regulation are you talking about? I mean, here's the kind of regulation I would like. I would like to have where are the hearings in congress on the people in congress that were supporting Freddie and Fannie and saying we've got to have people who even have less credentials to be able to buy a house?
DAVIS: Totally agree. Let me tell you in 2006 long before the Freddie and Fannie scandal emerged, John McCain stood up, gave a speech and said, why in the world do we allow the two biggest financial institutions that govern our mortgage markets to operate virtually completely in the dark. Now, that was in 2006, long before the crash in the market houses.
GLENN: Hang on, do you have
DAVIS: That's long before the scandals at Fannie and Freddie and long before the government had to bail them out.
GLENN: Do you have that audio?
GLENN: I'd love to have it to play on television tonight.
DAVIS: Not only that, back in 2004 John McCain gave a speech in Washington where he attacked corporate greed and said the problem we have with our economy isn't the hard working Americans that pay their taxes and do the hard work. It's the corporate greed on Wall Street where these guys take enormous amounts of money. And you know what he said? He said these CEOs don't own the companies. The shareholders own the companies and they are the ones who should be getting the economic benefit of their expansion. Now, this is a guy who's been 100% consistent on shedding the light on these kinds of institutions, many which we find out even the regulators didn't know what they were doing. And so I think you want a guy who's actually stood up when it wasn't popular, when it wasn't in the news, when it wasn't some big new scandal that they wanted to try and make political hay with and call it like he sees it and that's John McCain.
GLENN: Why do you think that Obama hasn't look, the Democrats should be ahead by 20 points. Here we have a very unpopular President. It has been Republican ruled for a while, we've got problems, the economy is always number one on everybody's mind, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. They should be 20 points ahead. Why can't Obama why is he fading and can't close the deal?
DAVIS: Because he doesn't have that much to offer to the American public. I mean, the only thing that he has tried to sell is hope and change and it's defined as, have hope? Then I'll find change. And what John McCain has been doing is he's been going around the country standing in these wells with town halls, hundreds of people bulleting questions to him, you know, minute after minute and he's responding with the kind of experience and knowledge it takes to actually implement change. And that's the difference. And people can see through the haze of the national media, they can not every voter reads the New York Times. And they can see through these guys. And, you know, the nice thing about the media exposure is sooner or later they have to go on TV and they have to give an interview and they have to debate and that's when the voters make up their minds. And that's what we're going to be seeing coming up here in the next couple of weeks.
GLENN: Rick, I hate to be Keith Olbermann here, but may I give you an ad? I don't know if you know this stat. The running ads on, you know, McCain saying, he's voted with Bush 90% of the time. What they are not talking about is that Biden is voting with Bush more often than he votes against him. He's voted with Bush 52% of the time. Obama has done 40% of the time. But I think this is the real key here. There are only five Republican senators that vote against their party more than McCain and he does it five times the rate that Obama does.
DAVIS: Yeah. Well, Obama leaves out a lot of details in his advertising. You know, one he attacks John McCain on for supporting George Bush's energy policies, except that it was Obama that voted for the Bush energy plan, not McCain. And so I mean, it really, it goes beyond the pale. And then he's the first guy that if there's an ad that attacks him, oh, my God, you'd think it was the most horrible thing that ever happened to the Earth. Politics isn't being bagged. The American public expects a debate and we're ready to make that debate happen.
GLENN: Rick, thank you very much, campaign manager for John McCain and just say hello to Sarah for us. She's just absolutely fantastic, off the charts pick.