Lynn Forester de Rothschild
GLENN: Lynn Rothschild is with us now. Hello, Lynn, how are you?
ROTHSCHILD: I'm fine, Glenn. Thank you for having me.
GLENN: You know, I read the quote from you back in, I think it was June. You're a baroness, aren't you?
ROTHSCHILD: No. No, I'm not. I am a girl from New Jersey.
GLENN: Come on.
ROTHSCHILD: Middle class family. I made my own fortune and I married a wonderful man who is from a very prominent European family.
GLENN: Yes. He's a baron, right? So when I read this back in June that you were saying you thought Barack Obama was an elitist, I thought that was hysterical coming from somebody with the last name Rothschild.
ROTHSCHILD: You know, we get so lost in labels, it is really sad in this country. You know, I do have that title. I have lived the American dream.
GLENN: I know. I'm
ROTHSCHILD: It's not about me.
GLENN: I know. I'm giving you
ROTHSCHILD: Don't attack the messenger.
GLENN: I don't mean to attack you. Honestly I found it very, very funny and I'm just joking with you.
ROTHSCHILD: You are not alone, including my children.
GLENN: I want to ask you, because I thank you for speaking out. You're not coming over to the Republican side. You are who you are and you describe yourself as a progressive, right?
ROTHSCHILD: I do.
GLENN: I understand Progressives, at least the early, you know, last century progressive, as a party that was really pushing socialism and I think that's where Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi, they have gone way left. Where do you separate yourself?
ROTHSCHILD: Well, I okay. We have a different idea of progressive. To me, what I mean by being a progressive is that I want to live in a country and a society that tries to bring along everyone in it, a society that lifts the boats for all people. That is not a left wing ideology. That's the American dream. I live the American dream. I grew up in a middle class family and now I have the life that is a dream.
ROTHSCHILD: And that's why I want the right person in the White House, somebody who will preserve that for my children and my children's children.
GLENN: And you're saying now because you were a big Hillary supporter. You were a big fundraiser for Hillary Clinton. Did you tell her you were going to come out against Barack Obama?
ROTHSCHILD: No, of course I didn't. Of course I didn't. I said it publicly, because what I said is what you led with. Is I said in the New York Times in June that I love my country more than my party and I'm going to vote for the person who I trust most to do the right thing for ordinary Americans.
GLENN: You know, I tell you, Lynn, I saw the Country First slogan from John McCain and it dawned on me how right that was when I realized you can hope for change, but I don't even know what that means. The change people want is someone putting their country first, not themselves and not their party.
ROTHSCHILD: Absolutely. And if you look at Barack Obama, when has he ever done anything that wasn't completely in his own best interests. Barack Obama earmarked more than $830 million to pet projects, including I might say $1 million to his wife's employer, including the Bridge to Nowhere. He also voted for the Bush energy plan that was a huge giveaway to the oil company. Because where does Barack Obama get his money? From oil companies. And all of that really upsets me as a Democrat. As a Democrat I feel about the Democratic party the way you did about the Republican party. I think they have left their values behind. I am a centrist Democrat. I want a strong growth economy, I want strong foreign policy. Most of all, I want a party that works for people from the family that I came from, regardless of my name. Don't forget where I came from, you know, Glenn.
GLENN: No, I tell you, Lynn, I disagree with so much of Bill Clinton's policies, but Bill Clinton, I'd vote for him in a heartbeat over Barack Obama. It is a radical, radical change, a Barack Obama presidency, from what we even are as a country. Agree or disagree?
ROTHSCHILD: Oh, I totally agree. Barack Obama only became the nominee by running against the Clinton legacy. And the question is what part didn't you like, the peace or the prosperity. Bill Clinton won because people understood that he spent every waking hour thinking about how to make their lives better, and we have lost that as a party. The Democratic party is so up to their eyeballs in vested interests. Look at what Joe Biden did. Joe Biden ushered the bankruptcy bill through congress. Even Ariana Huffington from the left said that it was a morally corrupt bill. It hurt the working class so badly. And in this economic crisis, there are going to be people who are not going to be able to pay their bills and will not have protection of bankruptcy law because Joe Biden ushered it through to help the credit card companies that are located in Delaware. That is wrong.
GLENN: So Lynn, how first of all, are you even going to be welcome in the Democratic party? Because who's running the Democratic party right now? They're listening to people who I believe are so vitriolic like Keith Olbermann that will force you to shut up and sit down. That's not the American way. But look what they've done to Joe Lieberman. I mean, you're done when you disagree with
ROTHSCHILD: I don't care. I don't care. You know what? I've got to do the right thing. This is an issue of conscience for me. Claire McCaskill was just attacking me on Fox and Friends and attacking, like you starred, attacking me because I'm Lady de Rothschild.
GLENN: Wait, wait, Lynn, I wasn't attacking you. I was joking.
ROTHSCHILD: I am about as rah, rah American, as normal a person as you can get.
GLENN: I apologize that you have misunderstood my joke. I was not attacking you. Sincerely, I may disagree with your policies but I respect you. That's the only reason why I'm having you on. I respect you for having the courage to stand against the machine that both parties have created, and I really, truly believe until Republicans stop being Republicans and start being Americans and until Democrats stop being Democrats and look and say, "Wait a minute, where are these parties taking us," the only way we're going to survive is when people like you stand up.
ROTHSCHILD: Well, from your mouth to God's ears, I am so much on your side, and you have to say then that John McCain is your man. Look at how he stood up to George Bush. He was the most critical person on the execution of the war in Iraq. He voted against the Bush energy plan. He pushed immigration through with Ted Kennedy because he thought Ted Kennedy had a better idea than George Bush. He
GLENN: Who do you who else like you, is there anybody else, is there anybody that is going to stand up? I've wondered this. When I watch what's happening in congress, is there anyone that's willing to stand up against Nancy Pelosi? Is there anyone else of authority that you think is going to stand up and say, I mean, honestly?
ROTHSCHILD: Well, look. What I think is going to happen, when Barack Obama loses, all of these people who pushed him over the finish line to make him the nominee, led by Nancy Pelosi and Howard Dean against the wishes of 18 million people are going to have a wake up call. And if the Democratic party does not start exercising and living by the values that it claims to have, it's going to continue to lose.
GLENN: Lynn, may I ask you a question. I said this right after Hillary didn't really endorse Barack Obama at the convention and I
ROTHSCHILD: Now, that's not fair. She really did. And you know what, they're going to try to put Barack Obama's loss on Hillary Clinton.
GLENN: No, no.
ROTHSCHILD: And that will be a gross injustice and it's total sexism, by the way. Hillary Clinton it is. It is.
GLENN: May I finish what I said?
GLENN: Here's what I said. She did what she had to do as a good little foot soldier, but I don't believe that she wants him to win. I don't believe I believe that she will win Barack to quote, when Barack loses, she will then step into the power vacuum in the Democratic party and say, "It's because you moved too far left and I told you this before." She did the bare minimum to be able to be a good Democrat but not she has no credibility if she hoists up the flag and says, vote Barack Obama, he's the savior of the universe. Because she's going to have to come out and say, you moved too far left.
ROTHSCHILD: Look, no one has done more for a candidate than Hillary Clinton has. Remember Ted Kennedy did not endorse Jimmy Carter and nobody said that he was not a good Democrat. So it is grossly, it really is grossly unfair to put this on Hillary. She is working for him. You know, of course we know from looking at her, she is a centrist and the Clintons are centrists. They govern from the center. You know, NAFTA came through, work fair came through. We created not we he, Bill Clinton created millions of jobs by his policy of being in the center, and the left hates them for it, and it's payback time.
ROTHSCHILD: And that's why I am not feeling at all guilty about not voting Democrat in this election. I'm happy with John McCain.
GLENN: Lynn Forester de Rothschild, thank you so much for being on the program.
ROTHSCHILD: It's great to talk to you. It's an honor.
GLENN: Good to talk to you, thanks. All right. Bye bye.