O'REILLY: Hey, Glenn, how are you doing, man?
GLENN: Really enjoyed your book.
O'REILLY: Thank you for reading it. Appreciate that.
GLENN: I will tell you, by the way, the name of it is a bold fresh piece of humanity.
O'REILLY: It was a bold, fresh piece of Hugh mean.
GLENN: This is all about you and so you talk about your childhood and growing up and everything else. I was surprised at, because we grew up in different times and different parts of the country. I was surprised at how much Levittown was every town USA.
O'REILLY: That's what everybody says to me. That's the universal appeal of the book, that I think I take you from a journey from Elvis Presley to the Beatles to the age of Aquarius, Vietnam era, to the Seventies and the disco time right up to now, and the experience that I had I think are universal to many Americans, at least you'll see some part of your life in it. And the reason I wrote the book was because a lot of people, you know, watch The Factor and they get torqued off about my opinions and they like them or they don't like them or whatever, but they always ask, well, how did you arrive at that conclusion, how did you find that particular point of view. And so I said, look, you know, let me explain, let me explain who my father was, let me explain what I learned teaching high school, let me explain what I learned playing football.
GLENN: I tell you, I read the part where you were talking about, you know, race and racism.
O'REILLY: Yeah.
GLENN: And I feel exactly the same way you do. It didn't -- I mean, I don't even, I don't understand it. It never played a role in my life. I grew up in Seattle. So I never even saw the things that you saw, but I never really understood it. When we're coming to this election, do you really believe that America is the country where -- I'm not talking about, you know, that 2% or 5% on both sides that will cancel each other out. That we're really a country that we're like, oh, he's black; I can't vote for him. Or, he's black; I've got to vote for him?
O'REILLY: Well, I think there's some of that. I think it cancels it.
GLENN: Right.
O'REILLY: You know, they cancel each other out. But there are people who live their life in a racial prism.
GLENN: Right. But I think that's a small minority. Everybody is saying this is going to be decided by race. I don't think that's who we are.
O'REILLY: No, I agree. I mean, but the race hustlers.
GLENN: Yes.
O'REILLY: Are using that. So if Obama loses, you'll hear that, you know, moments after, if McCain wins it will be racism. That's what the -- but that's how they make a living. I mean, these people, they sell that as a product. And if you -- you know, there are some very nervous people in the race hustler world because if Obama does win, their whole industry collapses. Then what can they say then? So, yeah, you're right. I mean, it's not the folks that drive this, although there are prejudice people in America. There's no doubt, on both sides. But there is an industry of racism in America.
GLENN: Going back to Levittown, I think this is the problem that we have, one of the problems that we have in America. I think it's one of the things that Sarah Palin has going for her. When I read your book, I see my childhood in it. I see the same experiences that I had, many of them, but I will tell you this. I don't see that in Washington. I don't see this, I don't see this -- these people go to Washington and they just turn into these alien life forms.
O'REILLY: It's almost the same thing about the media. It's almost exactly the same. When you get to New York or Los Angeles in the media, you might come in as a regular person, but you don't leave that way because you're hanging around with people who have a jaundiced view of the world. Most of the time they're arrogant people, "We're smarter than everybody else." That's what you get in Washington. Once you get into there, you don't see any regular folks anymore. It's all about calculation, how can I get reelected, how can I get more power, what do I have to do to get this passed or that passed. So they lose sight of why they are there in the first place and they become involved in the game, and it's exactly the same as the media. So you are right, you are absolutely right. And that's the problem in America, we need more people whose first priority are the folks, not their own careers. And I see -- I mean, the bailout is the best example it is. I mean, we weren't warned and all these people knew it was coming down the pike and nobody said anything? I mean, that's just crazy.
GLENN: In the book you have a chapter, Stand for Something. You talk about, you know, how your mom and dad were different kind of people. You know, they grew up in the Depression, et cetera, et cetera and, you know, it's where you kind of get your, you know, stand up against the bullies and the underdog spirit, et cetera, et cetera. But wasn't yesterday really the day that you wanted to vomit all over your shoes with people who, you know, either said I can't -- or, I'm voting for this because the party is pressuring me into voting for it, or I'm voting against it because I'm being challenged; or, I'm not voting for it because Nancy Pelosi said some bad things? I mean, where is the spine of people?
O'REILLY: I don't know where the vision of people. When I hear some of these people explain their votes, I'm just going to myself, "Look, everybody acknowledges that this is a fiasco." I mean, who's happy about this? Even the far left loons aren't happy about this. Although I think Michael Moore is finding a way to be happy. But, you know, you've got to look at the damage being done to elderly people's retirement funds and to people trying to put college, kids through college and you've got to say to yourself, look, it's not good, it isn't what the federal government should be doing, but we have to stop the bleeding in order to heal the patient. And that's my point of view and, you know, I've convinced Newt Gingrich who was against this in the beginning, he is now reluctantly supporting it because of our long conversation with him and he's an honest man. I said, listen, Newt, look, there are people going to go down here. Their whole lives are going to be destroyed here. And the federal government got us into this mess by not providing oversight on the gangs terse on Wall Street and they've got to get us out. So I think he heard me and now he's changed and hopefully we'll get this thing done by Thursday.
GLENN: You might want to talk to him again because I may have changed him back. Sorry to thwart you on that one. Charlie Rangel, Barney Frank, you had -- when was John Kerry on? Last night?
O'REILLY: Yes.
GLENN: Just had a call, last night. And he's talking about the Republicans --
O'REILLY: That was ridiculous.
GLENN: Why is no one in the media holding Charlie Rangel's or Barney Frank's to the fire?
O'REILLY: I'm going to take care of Frank tonight. That's our target tonight. Look, I said from the very beginning it's bogus and it is and there's enough blame to go around for everybody.
GLENN: Yep.
O'REILLY: But Frank has now stepped over the line. I'm going to have to deal with him tonight. I'm not going to tell you what we're going to do but Frank gets his tonight. He is in the No Spin Zone.
GLENN: Bill O'Reilly, the name of the book is A Bold Fresh Piece of Humanity.
O'REILLY: I just want to say one thing. If you liked Glenn Beck's book, and I did, you'll like this book.
GLENN: You didn't even open the cover. You didn't even open the cover.
O'REILLY: I read it. I read it cover to cover. I enjoyed it very much. Very witty.
GLENN: This isn't technically the No Spin Zone.
O'REILLY: I'm not a weasel. You know me. I would never say it if I didn't read it.
GLENN: Thank you, sir. Bye.
