Governor Sarah Palin
GLENN: Let me go to Governor Sarah Palin. Hello, how are you, governor?
GOVERNOR PALIN: I'm doing great. How are you, Glenn?
GLENN: Very great. If I call you Sarah, please don't take offense to it. I feel the strangest thing with you and I know my listeners feel the same way. You just, you're just like one of us. So? ?
GOVERNOR PALIN: Well, if you let me call you Glenn, I let you call me Sarah. I would just be comfortable with that.
GLENN: All right. First of all, are you clinging to either your God or guns currently right now?
GOVERNOR PALIN: No gun in my hand at this moment, but my God, yes.
GLENN: All right, good. You know, I have to tell you, I'm so glad to have you on the broadcast. You know, we spoke before they picked you and I've been saying for a long time that you are exactly the kind of person that we're looking for. I think you, in many ways at least for me, you represent hope that there is somebody out there that is normal, that hasn't over thought everything, that is not caught in this awful trap of, well, quite honestly? ?if you don't mind, let me just ask you this: At any time did you say to the handlers, just shut up and let me be me?
GOVERNOR PALIN: Oh, that's all that inside baseball stuff that, you know, hey. In these last two weeks we're going to do all that we can to get this message out there to American voters, letting them know what the choices are on November 4th. The choice is so clear, the contrast quite stark. So anything and everything I can do to get that message out, I'm going to do it.
GLENN: I don't know how America? ?what happened to us, Sarah, where you have a country that is willing to embrace socialism? Are we not embracing socialism with Barack Obama?
GOVERNOR PALIN: You know, maybe some voters have not realized what socialism entails and maybe young people brought up in some of the? ?under some of the curriculum in the schools are not quite aware that any hint at socialism really will punish productivity and hard work ethic and reward for that tough work ethic. Maybe just some voters aren't quite aware of where some of Barack Obama's, quote, tax cut programs could lead us, and it is a dangerous thing for our economy and for our country to be considering, though. We cannot flirt with this and now is not the time to experiment with, as Joe the plumber calls it, socialism.
GLENN: I have to tell you, I'm surprised that nobody has taken up the mantle, especially after you in the debate. I watched the debate and I saw the polling numbers, you know, the dial testing as you were going, and you started down this road that every single one of the politicians are saying, "Oh, well, these big evil people on Wall Street and, you know, these evil rich people" that we're duping people. But then you started in on? ?which I never heard and I actually cheered. It's time for some personal responsibility. It is time for people to take on the responsibility that they have for themselves. Why don't we talk about personal responsibility anymore? Why don't we reach out to the American people and say, "Hey, government is not the answer. Nine out of ten times government's the problem."
GOVERNOR PALIN: I know. Let us preach, reaching people when they know there is a candidate willing to talk about this. McCain talks about it, too, and in her rallies that, no, bigger government is the problem, it's not the solution. And we put government back on the side of the people in the state of Alaska by taking on corporate interests and taking on agenda that we're all about self dealing of politician, putting government back on the side of the people but still reminding Alaskans anyway that government is not the answer. Really it is the problem. And government can play an appropriate role in all the challenges, all the issues that we're dealing with today. But mainly government's got to get out of the way of the private sector and our families, their abilities and opportunities to grow and thrive and prosper. And you do that, federal level especially, by cutting taxes so that our small businesses and families can keep more of what they earn and produce and then reprioritize according to what they deem necessary and reinvest those dollars there instead of letting the politician do it for them. There's an appropriate role for government in meeting all the challenges that we face, but government is not the "Be all, end all."
GLENN: This is a Joe Biden gotcha question, just see if you're qualified to be President of the United States: How many letters in the words "Jobs."
GOVERNOR PALIN: Well, we got three letters in the word job. More importantly, four letters in jobs, and that's what we have to do, Glenn, is create jobs. You do that by letting our businesses keep more of what they earn and produce. That allows them to be able to afford more employees. That's how we get the economy back on track. That's just common sense stuff, common sense conservativism.
GLENN: What about the, what about the 95% of all Americans are going to get a tax cut? I mean, how do you get the message across to people that 40% of Americans don't pay taxes. And Barack Obama's saying, well, they pay Social Security tax. Well, so we're going to cut Social Security tax when Social Security's in the crapper? And that's not really income tax then that we're talking about, is it?
GOVERNOR PALIN: See, Glenn, people have got to hear his words, don't just be there at these rallies or anything else. Listening to what he's saying. You have to really, really hear what he is saying. Barack Obama claims that he will cut income taxes for 95% of Americans. The problem is more than 40% pay no income taxes at all. So how do you cut income taxes for folks who don't pay them? What he's going to do is write them a check and call that a tax cut, even though it's really a tax credit. And where is he going to get all the money for all those checks? By raising taxes on America's families and on our small businesses and folks just like Joe the plumber, and Barack Obama is playing with words to hide his real agenda of redistributing the hard earned money of American families and I mean, you've got to hand it to Joe the plumber in Toledo. He's the one who succeeded in finally getting Barack Obama to, in plain speak, explain what his intentions are for these quote/unquote tax cuts.
GLENN: Are you for this new stimulus package?
GOVERNOR PALIN: I say, you know, when is enough enough of taxpayer dollars being thrown into this bill out there? There's some points in it that make sense, some provisions in there that make sense, but how far are we going to go here in asking taxpayers to bail out even further, I guess entities, individuals, those who have made some poor decisions and then being able to kind of sit back and rely on others to prop them up and bail them out. This next one of the Democrats being proposed should be very, very concerning to all Americans because to me it sends a message that $700 billion bailout, maybe that was just the tip of the iceberg. No, you know, we were told when we've got to be believing if we have enough elected officials who are going to be standing strong on fiscal conservative principles and free enterprise and we have to believe that there are enough of those elected officials to say, no, okay, that's enough. We can use what we've already seen approved by congress and better use those funds even than how it's been laid out via the priorities that some in congress want to see the $700 billion spent. But when is enough enough.
GLENN: Barack Obama's running mate Joe Biden said yesterday that we're going to be tested with an international crisis in the next six months. He said that they are going to have to make some decisions that are going to seem wrong to the average person at first. Did you read this speech? He said that he was going to? ?that the decisions were going to seem wrong to the average American person in the first? ?in those six months and he was going to need people just to blindly stand by Barack Obama and Joe Biden and support those decisions because they would know better.
GOVERNOR PALIN: Okay. And? ?yeah, Glenn, I think that out of all the bizarre claims and proclamations in this entire campaign of Obama's and Biden's, that has to be the most bizarre talking point that I've heard yet.
GLENN: Do you think you'd get the same kind of treatment if you had said something like that?
GOVERNOR PALIN: Are you kidding? You know, have you noticed, though, that every time Biden wanders off message, he stumbles on the truth. And now, he didn't specify what the four or five scenarios for this international crisis that he says "Mark my word" is going to happen, he didn't specify what those scenarios are but, you know, all you have to do is review Barack Obama's foreign policy agenda to figure out what maybe one of those scenarios would be. And Biden did say, he told his Democrat donors at that fundraiser to mark his words, that those scenarios would place our country at risk in an Obama administration, and I guess we've got to thank Joe for the warning.
GLENN: Sarah, as a, not as a candidate but as an American, and I know you are an optimist and that's why I like you so much, but even if you weren't running, are we at a place in America, do you fear for the future of your country if people don't wake up?
GOVERNOR PALIN: I am puzzled by it. I think the tone of the campaign sometimes some days waking up looking at the direction of the campaign, puzzled there. Just take national security issues and then let's talk a little bit about energy independence issues, but national security. You know, for Barack Obama to have voted to cut off funding for our troops. My son's one of the troops over there. He's in Iraq today. To consider that Barack Obama had said? ?because he recognized it was the wrong thing to do, to try to cut off funding for our young men and women over there in a war zone. He said he wouldn't do it. Biden called him out on it and said, you know, this is political and this is going to cost lives. And Barack Obama, under political pressure, did it anyway, voted to cut off funding for the troops. Things like that puzzle me in terms of Barack Obama not having to further explain the decisions that he has made. Certainly we're perplexed by the associations that he's had and maybe has today and his record and not being called on these things. But specific issues that I think need to be talked about and questions asked of him, and we should be demanding answers also like the cutting off the troops' funding. It perplexes me the tone of the campaign where if we ask those questions, we're seen as mean spirited and negative campaigners and worse we're called. That's concerning to me.
GLENN: Sarah, Governor Sarah Palin, anytime that? ?and this is after the election, win or don't win, we would love to have you back anytime. The audience loves you. I think the average person in America is? ?just feels that, thank goodness, there is somebody that can walk onto the national scene for a lot of us just out of nowhere and not be a political machine. Don't get chewed up in it, Governor, and we look for you to serve our country for a long, long time ahead. Sarah Palin Sarah Palin hey, I appreciate that. Do we have one second to talk about energy independence?
GLENN: I'm on your? ?I'm already five minutes over. I don't want your handlers to yell at me, but I? ?you got it. You go ahead. Sarah Palin Sarah Palin I'll take care of that. Listen. There are national security issues that have to do with energy independence. Biden and Obama say no, no, no to the domestic solutions that we already have here. We can say yes to the drilling. We can say yes to the offshore drilling. We can say yes to the alternative sources of energy, nuclear and all these. Now, Biden and Obama have continually said no, which should send that message that they are fine, beholden to and reliant upon foreign sources of energy. Some of these countries we purchase energy from that can use energy as a weapon and they don't necessarily like America. That is one of those issues, Glenn, where the American voter had better be asking these candidates. Because we're trying to, as the opposition ticket, we're trying to ask the questions, but we're not getting a whole lot of help and follow-up through the media, of course, but from you and a couple of others. But what truly is their plan to get us firmly on that path towards energy independence in our country. They flip flopped all over on the specifics in their plan.
GLENN: No, they said they're willing to look at it. They're willing to look at drilling.
GOVERNOR PALIN: Right. Exactly. So people have got to hear what Barack Obama is saying, not just listening to those words and understanding that they are prettied up and packaged up to look like maybe mainstream policies, but you've got to hear what he is saying, the nuances. And he's very sharp there in his choice of words used even there on saying we'll look at such and such. But we have got to be an energy independent country and we can do this. And we have the ingenuity and we have the workforce. And instead of those hundreds of billions of dollars, U.S. dollars being circulated in foreign countries to purchase energy sources, they should be produced here, and they can be. We do have the resources in this country.
GLENN: Governor, thank you so much.
GOVERNOR PALIN: Thank you.
GLENN: And we hope to talk to you again soon.
GOVERNOR PALIN: I would love to. Thank you so much, Glenn. Bye.