Mary Matalin Interview

GLENN BECK PROGRAM


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GLENN: Let's go to Mary Matalin. Hi, Mary, how are you?

MATALIN: Oh, my God.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh, it's you.

MATALIN: Has anyone ever broken records as quickly as beautifully and as creatively as you have?

GLENN: Yeah, I think a lot.

MATALIN: No, I don't think so. Congratulations!

GLENN: Thank you so much.



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MATALIN: I was singing around the house and my kids are like, why are you singing that song? This is number one, baby, debut, number one baby.

GLENN: By the way, Mary Matalin is my publisher and she has been -- I wrote you just the other night and I said, Mary -- did you get my e-mail?

MATALIN: Uh-uh.

GLENN: Really? Oh, crap. Mare merry left messages for you during the holidays. Do you have my right e-mail address?

MATALIN: I don't know. I am so glad -- we'll touch base on it. I have to tell you that I am so glad for you because I can't even imagine what it's like to be you walking around the halls of, you know, a publishing house.

MATALIN: Well, you know, there's two other people there and they both whisper. Louise Burke, who is the person of publishing anyway is the only conservative person I've ever met in that business.

GLENN: It's amazing.

MATALIN: It's like when I was working at CNN. People would come up.

GLENN: When I first started. Now they are pretty open about it. But, you know, I think -- because we always have these pride weeks at the Time-Warner Center. I think we should have one where we put pictures of conservatives up and then just have those positive statements. "I'm conservative and I'm proud."

MATALIN: You know what, Glenn, that is so a great idea because you know where else there's a lot of conservatives and they whisper, is in Hollywood? And they do a lot of the work and a lot of them are in the creative process and a lot of them are on screen and they always whisper, too, and they are like, take you to the back and then tell me those stories. I'm like, this is ridiculous. We ought to have a bicoastal conservative pride day.

GLENN: I have to tell you, it would be fantastic. I have -- and I can't say his name because I don't have permission to say his name but I had dinner a couple of weeks ago with an Oscar winner and he's a conservative and he said, you don't know. He said, there are three of us right now that are trying to pull people out of the closets in Hollywood, that are trying to get people, you know, and we're having these dinners with each other and we're putting, you know, names down on lists and we're like, okay, we've got to get them to come out and admit it because we've got to be able to unite. These conservatives in Hollywood, they understand what real McCarthyism really is. I mean, it's -- blacklists actually happen.

MATALIN: It really does. And this is important seriously because the way in which you've changed the landscape, Hollywood creators can be very important to our global public diplomacy. You know, the way we have public diplomacy to talk about America in the beginning of, you know, to help us take down communism and that doesn't exist anymore because so much of that was done through Hollywood. They do the opposite now. Look what they're putting on there. Of course, it's crashing and trashing here at home but it would be very important to have that community pushing in a positive American image around the world.

GLENN: You know, redacted is going to -- well, it made, I think $26,000 in its opening weekend here. That movie is going to cost American lives overseas. It's going to make millions overseas and I think it's treasonous, quite frankly.

MATALIN: Well, I'm with you, Buddy. Well, you've done your bit for America. This book is incredible, I can't believe, flying off the shelf. I was so jealous when they told me, they sent a picture of your book. I'm like, when is the bust coming here? I want to get on the bus.

GLENN: Well, I tell you what, if you can promise your husband isn't home, I'll drive it to your house myself. It will drive you nuts.

You know, before I get into this, because I want to ask you about Hillary Clinton and some substance going on, but let me ask you this: Do you remember one of the first questions I asked you when we first had lunch? It was a very honest question and I'm sure you hear it all the time and that is, how do you do it? How do you -- I mean, what are you thinking? What did you say?

MATALIN: You know what, he is a liberal and I was in denial for many years. I decided if I didn't talk about it, it would go away. But now I don't talk about it because I don't want to fight and I think every marriage has those places where they don't go.

GLENN: But it's so bizarre because you both believe it to the core, and I don't know how you -- I don't know. I mean, there are some things that you've got to, I mean, that are values that just are values, that are important. You know?

MATALIN: Well, let me take a place that we couldn't disagree more and that's the war. His value is unlike some of his treasonous friends, I agree with you it's treason. He is not anti-American. He loves this country. He's an altar boy Catholic. He has traditional values. He's a patriot. He was in the Marines. So he just thinks -- and initially he wasn't against the war but he thinks it's badly executed.

GLENN: Oh, yeah. Well, I agree with that.

MATALIN: Okay. Well, I can't -- to which I say to both of you guys, show me a war that, you know, got off the ground and went --

GLENN: Oh, no, no, I agree with you as well. We did, we really botched it. We did it really well at the beginning. Then we blew it in the middle and we're doing it right now. I mean, you're right. I mean, that's the wars are. But I don't want to get into the James thing. I wanted to ask you my next, you know, insane question that I wanted to ask you. Do you ever call restaurants and say, hi, I'm Mary Matalin, I'd just like to get to the table. And then when they come, they are disappointed that you are not the deaf Oscar winner?

MATALIN: Yeah, that happens a lot because -- and the older I get, the worse it is.

GLENN: Really? Mare merry do get e-mail, my public e-mail for her: Oh, I love you and such-and-such.

GLENN: Oh, that's great.

MATALIN: And the other thing I get where they are really disappointed, though, is they think I'm the, one of Jesus Christ's apostles. I get more of the Mary Magdalene than the Matalin. I actually look, although she is a gazillion times prettier slightly like Mary Matalin because she has dark hair and dark eyes but she's obviously prettier. The Jesus thing is even worse.

GLENN: Let me switch to politics here real quick. Hillary Clinton, I have been amazed that her numbers have been so high I keep thinking to myself, I mean, have you forgotten, America, what -- even if you agree with her politically, I as an American am so sick of the Bush/Clinton, Bush/Clinton things. I'm so sick of the same argument. The last thing I want is a rerun of the 1990s just of the conversation in America and I don't want a rerun of the last eight years of the conversation. Do you think she is going to implode because people are now starting to say, ooh, wait a minute, I remember now?

MATALIN: I think that's why that little incident with her, to be a political junkie like you and I, was so noticed, was so damaging when her husband said, I was against, I was always against the war from the beginning. It just reminded people of the war that joined our lexicon. Clintonian, they are both Clintonian. As you know, this is the election era of authenticity. I completely agree with you. Very prominent people want to turn the page. But the Democrats and liberals think they want to turn the page away from conservativism. They do not. They want regular old-fashioned traditional predictable principle conservativism. That's what a country is, including the independents who left the Republican party because it wasn't behaving conservatively, which is a conversation you and I have had ad nauseam. So I think her numbers are -- her numbers aren't that high. They are just higher relative to her field but not for long. I think Obama, if he is not ahead of her, he will be ahead of her in Iowa. This is still very fluid. They know they got problems in Iowa. And if she tanks in Iowa, I don't know if the party's going to -- her party is as tenuous in not wanting to be with her, much more so than you would think.

GLENN: Yeah. Obama having breakfast with Michael Bloomberg, which would be -- I mean, if you are a strategist, it seems to me -- well, you are a strategist. I'm just a thinker. It would seem to me to be a smart move.

CALLER: And a big debut number one best selling thinker.

GLENN: I love you. It would be a good move because he would be able to say, look, this guy is a Republican and I'm reaching across the aisles even though Michael Bloomberg is the furthest thing from a Republican, or at least from a conservative. Good move or a bad move on his part?

MATALIN: Well, I think there's so much ado about Michael Bloomberg, who is a great guy who I met when I was working in the White House and has done a great job in the city, and my New York friends think he is a terrific mayor. I don't think he's philosophically, certainly not a conservative. So that would be Obama, who's positioning himself as sort of center left. Another center left guy, he wants to prove that he can reach across the aisle, get a Joe Lieberman. That would be perfect for him. Jewish, defense, you know, morals, concerned on the moral stuff.

GLENN: But Joe Lieberman is like, I mean he's like, he's leprosy in shoes.

MATALIN: Well, Obama, he's a changed candidate, he is going to do it a different way. Well, first they are going to change the tone in their own house before they can change the tone in Washington, across the aisle.

GLENN: That's exactly why I say Joe Lieberman is leprosy in shoes. I mean, try to get anybody to pay attention to him on the left. Joe Lieberman, they don't want anything to do with Joe Lieberman. And they are making the same mistake. They ran him. They said, no, got to be Annie war. Once they ran Joe Lieberman against the guy on the left, and Joe's pretty left on some things. Once they ran somebody on this platform that they think everybody is hungry for, Joe Lieberman stamped stomped him into the ground.

MATALIN: Lieberman, here's why Joe Lieberman would be a good move for him. Before he was with Al Gore, he was for, originally he was against it. But he's been for school choice, he's been for updating in a serious way or eliminating in the destructive way, affirmative action and he has good, solid flea market values. He's informed by that. And yet he has this very intense moral code and he's great on defense. He is likely, he is what the country wants. I don't know why I'm on this Joe Lieberman binge but --

GLENN: Are you still on the Fred Thompson bandwagon.

MATALIN: Yeah, but I like them all but I loved Fred for being so supportive of Scooter when nobody else would step up to the plate. But I'm a federalist, I'm a Burkian federalist and he is the most philosophically and consistently philosophical and thinking conservative in the field by far. Not even close. So I hope that he's in the race and every time we have these debates, you know, he substantively and philosophically the best. How his campaigns play out is anybody's guess but he's a good man.

GLENN: Do you think the -- I've talked to so many people who are Republicans, you know, and play the game in the beltway and they dismiss the border. They say, yeah, people say that, but they don't vote on that issue. Do you think that's true?

MATALIN: The boardroom?

GLENN: The border. Mare marrow, the border. Oh, my God, no. I don't think that's true at all and that was one of the -- the first policy on that was Social Security because that's what got them all lathered up in the first place, that we're keeping all this on our kids.

GLENN: Oh, yeah.

MATALIN: So it's a moral issue for him. But immigration, do they vote on it? Yes, they vote on it. We sit around and talk about it.

GLENN: I know we do. I'm not kidding you.

MATALIN: In restaurants or in the campaign, we talk about, this is so problematic. You know, people think this is a border issue. It's not just a border issue. In Iowa it's a meth problem. In Missouri it's a mess problem. It's a crime problem, it's an interior problem. You know, talk about all the time. We know the system's on it but we don't typically associate it with the biggest, latest drug scores, meth, and it is. In rural America. It is just a horrible problem.

GLENN: We've got 21 people that are still missing that have been kidnapped, 21 Americans that have been kidnapped at the border down in Laredo and still nobody's talking about it, not a single politician is really standing up and ringing the bell on this and it's all drug cartel stuff. It is bad, bad news.

MATALIN: Do you ever have on -- I'd watch you when I'm home but I'm not always home. These border sheriffs in Texas?

GLENN: Oh, yeah.

MATALIN: Aren't they amazing?

GLENN: Oh, let me tell you something. I just said this a couple of weeks ago. America needs to support their local sheriffs, they need to support their local police. It is the local guys that get it, and they are on the frontline and they are the ones ringing the bell the hardest and saying, good God in heaven, will somebody help us because they are the ones that are running into the meth problem. They are the ones that are having to shoot at these guys and sweep up, you know, all of the blood afterwards, and it is bad news. They are heroes.

MATALIN: And they are completely ill equipped. They are like Barney 5. They got little cars and one bullet and these guys come in tanks and they have Uzis or whatever, I don't know my guns, but they are armored up, man.

GLENN: Mary, I've got to run but thank you so much for everything and we'll talk again soon.

MATALIN: Buy this book, he's already number one. Let's keep gas, big gas in that gas guzzling book, "An Inconvenient Book."

GLENN: Thanks a lot, Mary.

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In the final days before the 2020 election, President Donald Trump is gaining among black voters, particularly men, because his record of accomplishments "speaks for itself" and the "façade" that President Trump is a racist "just doesn't ring true," argued sports columnist Jason Whitlock on "The Glenn Beck Radio Program" Tuesday.

Jason, who recently interviewed the president at the White House for OutKick.com, shared his thoughts on why he believes many black Americans — notably celebrities such as Kanye West, Ice Cube, and 50 Cent — are breaking from the "façade" that President Trump is a "flaming racist."

"I really believe the facts are starting to speak for themselves, and that Donald Trump's record of accomplishments, particularly as it relates to African Americans, speaks for itself," Jason told Glenn. "He actually has a record to stand on, unlike even Barack Obama. When [Obama] was president, I don't think he had much of a record to stand on, in terms of, 'Hey, what did he actually deliver for African Americans?' President Trump has things he can stand on and, you know, beyond that I think black people understand when he starts talking about black unemployment rate. And America's unemployment rate. And then, when you add in for black men, the façade we've been putting on [President Trump] … you know, this whole thing that he's some flaming racist, it just doesn't ring true."

Jason suggested that Trump's fearlessness, unabashed masculinity, and record of keeping his promises resonates with men in the black community. He also weighed in on how media and social media's bias plays a huge role in convincing people to hate President Trump while ignoring Antifa and others on the Left.

"I keep explaining to people, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, they're some of the most secular places on earth. And we've reduced everyone to a tweet, that we disagree with," he added.

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Megyn Kelly is not happy about the "disgusting" media coverage of President Donald Trump, specifically pointing to Lesley Stahl's "60 Minutes" interview on CBS Sunday.

On the radio program, Megyn told Glenn Beck the media has become so blinded by the "Trump Derangement Syndrome" that they've lost their own credibility — and now they can't get it back.

"It's disgusting. It's stomach-turning," Megyn said of the media's coverage of the president. "But it's just a continuation of what we've seen over the past couple of years. Their 'Trump Derangement Syndrome' has blinded them to what they're doing to their own credibility. They can't get it back. It's too late. They've already sacrificed it. And now no one is listening to them other than the hard partisans for whom they craft their news."

Megyn also discussed how she would have covered the recent stories about Hunter and Joe Biden's alleged corruption. Watch the video below to catch more of the conversation:


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Imagine sometime next year, getting called before HUWAC – the House Un-Woke Activities Committee.

"Are you or have you ever been a member of the un-woke?"

Something like that is not as far-fetched as you might think.

Last week, Robert Reich, the former Secretary of Labor during the Clinton administration, now a UC Berkeley professor, tweeted this:

Since the 1970s, there have been dozens of "Truth Commissions" around the world like the kind Robert Reich wants in America. Most of these have been set up in Africa and Latin America. Usually it happens in countries after a civil war, or where there's been a regime change – a dictator is finally overthrown, and a commission is set up to address atrocities that happened under the dictator. Or, as in the commissions in East Germany and Czechoslovakia, atrocities under communism. Or, in the most famous example, South Africa's Truth and Reconciliation commission addressed the decades of apartheid that ravaged that nation.

These commissions usually conclude with an official final report. These commissions and reports have served as a means of governments trying to close a dark chapter of their country's history, or provide emotional catharsis, as a way to generally move on. Sometimes it kind of works for people, most of the time it leaves people clamoring for more justice.

Here's how one professor described truth commissions in an article in The Conversation last year. He wrote:

The goal of a truth commission… is to hold public hearings to establish the scale and impact of a past injustice, typically involving wide-scale human rights abuses, and make it part of the permanent, unassailable public record. Truth commissions also officially recognize victims and perpetrators in an effort to move beyond the painful past… Some have been used cynically as tools for governments to legitimize themselves by pretending they have dealt with painful history when they have only kicked the can down the road.

See, this is the problem with a lot of "Truth" commissions – they are inherently political. Even if you trust your government and give them all the benefit of the doubt in the world that their Truth commission is trying to do the right thing, it is ALWAYS going to be political. Because these truth commissions are never set up by those who have LOST power in government. They're always established by those who have WON power.

The Deputy Executive Director of the International Center for Transitional Justice says one of the main points in these Truth commissions is that "the victims become protagonists."

A Department of Anti-racism is entirely within the realm of possibility.

So, who are the victims in Robert Reich's America? People like him, members of the far-Left who had to endure the atrocities of four years of a president with different political ideas. What an injustice. I mean, the left's suffering during the Trump administration is almost on the level of apartheid or genocide – so we totally need a Truth commission.

There have been lots of calls for the U.S. to have its own Truth and Reconciliation commission, especially around racial injustice.

This past June, Democratic Congresswoman Barbara Lee of California introduced legislation to establish the " United States Commission on Truth, Racial Healing, and Transformation."

Ibram X. Kendi – the high priest of anti-racism, and author of Target's current favorite book " Antiracist Baby" – proposes a Constitutional anti-racism amendment. This amendment would:

establish and permanently fund the Department of Anti-racism (DOA) comprised of formally trained experts on racism and no political appointees. The DOA would be responsible for pre-clearing all local, state and federal public policies to ensure they won't yield racial inequity, monitor those policies, investigate private racist policies when racial inequity surfaces, and monitor public officials for expressions of racist ideas. The DOA would be empowered with disciplinary tools to wield over and against policymakers and public officials who do not voluntarily change their racist policy and ideas.

If you think that is far-fetched, you haven't been paying attention to the Left's growing radicalism. In a Joe Biden-Kamala Harris administration, a Department of Anti-racism is entirely within the realm of possibility. And of course, such a DOA would never stop at policing government.

We're in a dangerous, precarious moment in our history. Given the events of 2020, should Democrats gain the White House, the Senate, and the House, how many commissions will be in our future? They will suddenly have plenty of political capital to drag the nation through years of commission hearings.

And the Left's form of justice is never satisfied. You think it will stop at a T&R commission on race? MSNBC's Chris Hayes tweeted this month about the need for a commission to deal with Americans who are skeptical about wearing masks:

Or what about a Truth commission on religion? I mean, look at those reckless churches spreading Covid this year. Or this would be a big one – a T&R commission on climate change deniers.

The Left is highly selective when it comes to truth. That's why they are the very last group you want in charge of anything with "Truth and Reconciliation" in the title.

This is one of the most incredibly frustrating things about the Left in America today. The Left insists there is no such thing as absolute truth, while simultaneously insisting there are certain approved truths that are undeniable.

So, you can't question "Science" – even though that's pretty much what every great scientist in history did.

You can't question racism as the explanation for all of existence – because, well, just because.

You can't question third-party "Fact-checkers" – because the powers that be, mainly Big Tech right now, have decided they are the Truth referees and you have to trust what they say because they're using certified external fact-checkers. They just forgot to tell you that they actually fund these third-party fact-checkers. It's like if McDonald's told you to trust third-party health inspectors that they were paying for.

The Left thinks it has a monopoly on Truth. They're the enlightened ones, because they've had the correct instruction, they're privy to the actual facts. It's psychotic arrogance. If you don't buy what they're selling, even if you're just skeptical of it, it's because you either don't have the facts, you willingly deny the facts, or you're simply incapable of grasping the truth because you're blinded by your raging racism problem. It's most likely the racism problem.

The Left never learns from its own preaching. For the past 60-plus years they've decried the House Un-American Activities Committee for trying to root out communists, getting people canceled, ruining Hollywood careers, etcetera. But a HUAC-type committee is precisely what Robert Reich is describing and many on the Left want. It's not enough for Trump to be voted out of office. Americans who helped put him there must be punished. They don't want reconciliation, they want retribution. Because the Left doesn't simply loathe Donald Trump, the Left loathes YOU.

President Donald Trump's performance at last night's final presidential debate was "brilliant" and "the best he's ever done," Glenn Beck said on the radio program Friday.

Glenn described the moments he thought President Trump came across as "sincere," "kind," and "well-informed," as well as Joe Biden's biggest downfalls for of the night — from his big statement on wanting to eliminate the oil industry to his unsurprising gaffes as the debate neared the end. But, the question remains: was Trump's "brilliant performance" enough to win the election?

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