Michelle Malkin Interview



GLENN: Last night with the debate, Michelle Malkin has done her homework on who the people were that were asking the questions on the debate and it is absolutely phenomenal to me after all we heard about Tim Russert and how unfair his questions were that the outcry at CNN.

You know what, when I walk those halls, CNN better be in a full-fledged uproar of what happened on the debate last night and who they selected to ask the questions in their youtube debate. Michelle Malkin is here with us now. Hi, Michelle.

MALKIN: Hey, Glenn, congrats first on all your success.

Visit the Michelle Malkin website at michellemalkin.com

GLENN: Thank you so much. I'm a big fan of yours. I think you are one of the smartest, most focused people out there. I checked your website this morning and you have not only the youtube debate questions but then you also have their blogs and their youtube appearances before the debate where they are clearly exposed. Well, let's just tick them down one by one on who these people were last night.

MALKIN: Sure. Of course, the most prominent plant, the one that Anderson Cooper gave his mea culpa for was a military guy who earned boos from some very savvy members of the audience very early on not knowing who he was because he was so clearly grandstanding. Keith Kerr, turns out you to a dimple Google search, you don't have to do some major excavation to find, that the guy was in fact a Hillary campaign committee lesbian and gay committee member. In other words, an official of the Hillary Clinton campaign. But that's really just the tip of the iceberg. I can't even think of the analogies here, the horticulture. So basically CNN looks like it's turned into the home and garden TV network, Glenn, because there were at least three other of these plants who have been tied one way or the other to Democrat campaigns either as declared supporters or activists or sympathizers. For example, the girl that looked like a Janeane Garofalo dead wringer, the girl who asked the question about abortion and whether women would be prosecuted, turns out she wasn't just some concerned young undecided person. Turns out she was a declared John Edwards supporter and you could find this out by looking at her youtube profile, clicking through to her blog and seeing that she was an active John Edwards supporter. And Anderson's ego will be assuaged because it also turns out that she is a big slobbering Anderson Cooper fan as well.

GLENN: You know what, Michelle, I have to tell you. I am not a CNN apologist. You know I work for CNN. I'm not a CNN apologist. I work for them. We work together. I'm the only show on CNN to have an independent company, my company, produce the show. So I am technically not an employee of CNN. So I'm not going to apologize for them. I don't think there's a grand conspiracy over there, but I think there are people over there that do have agendas. But with that said, Anderson Cooper is not one of them. I think Anderson Cooper is one of the most fair people I have ever met.

MALKIN: Actually I believe his mea culpa, I believe he didn't realize who these people were but really that's part of the problem. I mean, obviously here it's either, as one other blogger in the blog here put it, a case of either constructive incompetence or convenient ineptitude. I don't buy the total grand conspiracy, either. I think there were probably smaller little conspiracies of agendas of probably individual producers, particularly with regard to the military guy. I mean, come on. To believe that they didn't realize when they had plucked this guy and brought him down to the debate, planted him in the audience and we're supposed to believe that someone didn't do a simple background search on that guy? Now that's said, I've mentioned, too, there's two others and it doesn't take some hidden journalist with an MA from the Columbia School of Journalism to find these things out.

GLENN: Well, give me the others.


GLENN: We have the general, we had the abortion question but we have two others.

MALKIN: That's right. The third one was the guy who came on and asked how the candidates, Republican candidates would feel about Log Cabin Republican support. Clearly the guy left the intentional impression that he was a Log Cabin Republican. Well, it turns out that that guy, David Cercone, and once again a simple Google search would have turned this up on the very first search page. Turns out that the guy is a declared Obama '08 supporter. He had a blog on the Obama '08 campaign page. This should be disclosed. People should know that these weren't just ordinary citizens who were part of the Republican party or conservative movement who hadn't decided among the candidates. The guy's an Obama supporter, Glenn!

GLENN: Right. And the last one is the undecided mom.

MALKIN: That's right. We have a concerned mom with two kids and she looked very earnest as she talked about lead and poise and it turns out this ordinary concerned mom also happens to be a staffer for a head of the United Steel Workers and a very prominent union activist in Pittsburgh. Once again, just Google it.

GLENN: Okay. So first of all, let me start at the most innocent way all of this happened. Michelle, I don't know how many liberals you have ever worked with but when it comes to liberal journalists, I mean, next to MSNBC, belly of the beast, for the love of Pete. What I have found is many of these liberals have never even met a real conservative because they're from New York, they live in New York. They don't even know what a real conservative is and so they don't understand the questions.

When you look at these questions, first of all, a conservative would say, are you going to prosecute the moms, you know, the people who are going to have the abortion. That's not a question from a conservative. A conservative wouldn't phrase it that way in the first place. They would be talking about how pro life you are, et cetera, et cetera. Then you have the Log Cabin Republican. Most conservatives, not universally so but most conservatives do not have two questions of Log Cabin conservatives and the don't ask/don't tell policy. It is so far down on a conservative's radar right now that it's incomprehensible. And the other, on the lead paint with China, you know, that one, maybe. As long as we keep framing it in, you know, China and is China really an enemy and what's really happening there, et cetera, et cetera, you could possibly see that one coming from a conservative.

The best-case scenario is they just don't even understand how conservatives think and so they didn't even spot -- you don't have to Google. You can look at these questions and go, what is this? That's a setup question. There's not a conservative out there that's asking this question. Am I wrong? You don't even need to Google it.

MALKIN: Well, yeah, that's partly true, Glenn. And look, I've been working in print journalism for 15 years and broadcast journalism for the last seven. I worked in two major metropolitan newsrooms and have come across the kind of liberal journalists that you're talking about. But even if you grant, even if some of these questions were questions that conservatives conceivably would have formulate on their own and not raised alarms on someone's BS detector, there's still the issue that these connections were out there, they should have been disclosed, and it's not like CNN hadn't been given a heads-up that there were planting problems. They had plenty of time to vet these people. You've got extraordinary odds here, Glenn. Out of 5,000 videos and 32 that actually made it onto air, at least four involved people who were declared Democrat supporters or actual staffers or activists.

GLENN: There's absolutely -- look. Michelle, I know the standards that I'm held to. I know that standards and practices comes to me and says, you're going to go with that on the air? There's this evidence and this evidence that it's not true. And I'll say, well, there's this evidence and this evidence that it is true. Okay. Well, if you want to look stupid. I mean, they are in my face all the time to make sure that we are -- not a single thing goes on the air that, you know, is questionable. You can't tell me that -- I mean, how -- was everybody drunk that was putting these things together? I mean, how did they miss this?

MALKIN: Well, I would list names. Let's grant that Anderson Cooper was innocent in all of this, and I'm perfectly willing to do that. I've actually reflected some of his work. For example, when he went to Lebanon and pretty much called what was going on there with regard to the staging of fake Hezbollah propaganda. So I don't think of him as the enemy. I don't think of him as some --

GLENN: He's not.

MALKIN: -- totally incurable left wing idealog. He's not. But somebody is obviously using him as a tool. I think it's clear. I cannot give the same benefit of the doubt to the people who were able to pick these plants and weeds out of the 5,000 videos that were submitted.

GLENN: Let me go here. Is this the death of one of two things. Is this the death of these youtube debates because we now know it's bogus; or, does this now show the hypocrisy of the Democrats, or maybe the ability to, you know, see the future because they see the way they do things. Does this show the hypocrisy of the Democrats who will not go and face a debate on Fox News, all of the questions performed by credible journalists. They complain about the unfairness of the questions of Tim Russert and yet at the same time they will plant someone from their camp to ask questions and yet the Republicans take it. They do it. Which one of these is more open to an honest debate?

MALKIN: Well, I think the two scenarios are not mutually exclusive. I definitely think that you hit the nail on the head with the latter scenario and, you know, I'm actually very proud of all these candidates, although I'm not really juiced up about any one in particular that they agreed to do it because remember a couple of months ago Mitt Romney wasn't going to do it, a lot of the right wing bloggers, my fellow conservative bloggers including myself and others that, hey, you know, you need to get in the game and this could be an opportunity for you to expose liberal bias. You need to be in the opportunity to create it. And look, they didn't even ask, it was a theater basically for CNN to smack itself in the face over it. But -- and yeah, I mean, the Democrats have Fox derangement syndrome and I think people will see through that. I mean, I think the question is how much will this debacle penetrate to ordinary citizens. You know, it's a small amount of people who actually read the Internet. You've got a huge audience. Talk radio has a huge audience. But look, CNN's not going to want to talk about this on the giant airwaves for more than a day and the New York Times is not going to put it on the front page although, of course, if the scenario were reversed, we wouldn't hear the end of it. We would have Paul Krugman columns with the reverse scenario until the end of next year.

GLENN: Yeah.

MALKIN: So yeah.

GLENN: Michelle, you just keep beating the drum and the truth will come out and I think you said, you know, it's the right thing to stay engaged. It's the wrong thing to back away because, you know, you give people enough rope and they hang themselves if they have an agenda.

MALKIN: Yeah. And it was, I have to say, day to day for much of the conservative audience that has watched CNN get away with so much.

GLENN: Michelle, thanks a lot. Appreciate it.

MALKIN: Thanks. 


The Senate Judiciary Committee was set to vote on subpoenas to compel Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey and Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg to testify on alleged censorship and bias across their platforms. But that all changed when Republican committee members "expressed reservation about the maneuver," Politico reports.

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), who chairs Judiciary's Subcommittee on the Constitution, was definitely not one of the committee members with cold feet. On the radio program Tuesday, he told Glenn Beck that he's fighting "vociferously" to ensure Dorsey and others testify before the November 3rd election.

"Jack Dorsey and Mark Zuckerberg are both going to testify. They're are going to testify in person. They're going to testify before Election Day. That's what I think should happen," Cruz said. "That's what I'm fighting vociferously to happen. Right now, the companies are negotiating with the chairman's office to discuss terms to come voluntarily. I don't give a damn whether they come voluntarily or under subpoena. They need to testify in person and answer questions for the American people about why they are trying to steal this election, to suppress the free speech, and to censor the press."

The subpoenas would require Big Tech leaders to testify on the alleged "suppression and/or censorship" of two consecutive blockbuster stories from the New York Post. The first story was about emails that allegedly came from Hunter Biden's computer which are currently being investigated by the FBI, and the second was based on additional emails that allegedly showed communist China directly offering millions of dollars to then-Vice President Joe Biden.

"Big Tech stepped in, and they've done something they've never done before," Cruz explained. "We know that Big Tech has been censoring individual conservatives, trying to suppress conservative speech. But the step they took here is, they blocked if any individual user tried to share either of the New York Post stories, [they] were blocked ... Sharing a news story, from a major media outlet is part of democracy, part of free speech. And not only that, they blocked the New York Post itself. Right now, today, the New York Post is not being allowed to post its own damn stories on corruption. This is ridiculous. It's a threshold that's never been crossed before, of Silicon Valley oligarchs declaring the authority to determine what the press is allowed to report, and who is allowed to see it."

Watch the video below to catch more of the conversation:

Want more from Glenn Beck?

To enjoy more of Glenn's masterful storytelling, thought-provoking analysis and uncanny ability to make sense of the chaos, subscribe to BlazeTV — the largest multi-platform network of voices who love America, defend the Constitution and live the American dream.

If we learned nothing from the media over the past 4 years it's that colluding with a foreign entity to either win an election or for personal gain is absolutely grotesque. Well, that depends on whether you have a (D) or (R) before your name anyway. President Trump was impeached on rumor and innuendo yet Joe Biden has all but skated on his corruption up to this point.

Below is a timeline that shows the level of corruption and the lengths the Biden's went to in order to build that family's wealth and influence internationally.


In 2009, Joe Biden was the brand-new Vice President and John Kerry was a U.S. Senator. Just five months after Joe was sworn in, his son Hunter, and Kerry's stepson, Christopher Heinz, formed an international private equity firm called Rosemont Capital. It had several different branches, including one called Rosemont Seneca Partners.


Just nine months after Rosemont Seneca opened its doors, Hunter Biden went to China for meetings with executives from China's biggest banks, and its sovereign wealth and social security funds. That's unheard-of access for a brand-new firm. Was it just coincidence that at the same time Hunter was meeting these Chinese bigwigs, his dad was meeting with China's then-president Hu Jintao in Washington DC at a nuclear security summit?


In May 2011, Joe Biden met with Chinese officials for the U.S.-China Strategic & Economic Dialogue conference in Washington. Just two weeks later, Hunter Biden went to Taiwan for meetings with the same Chinese financial giants he'd met in China in 2010, plus some new ones.


By December 2013, Joe Biden was enjoying his second term as VP, and John Kerry was now Secretary of State. That's when Joe traveled to Beijing on an extended official trip and Hunter traveled with him on Air Force Two.

During their stay, Vice President Biden met with President Xi and Hunter was mostly out of sight. We don't know exactly what he was up to, but the deal finalized between Rosemont Seneca and the Bank of China just ten days after the Bidens' trip pretty much gives it away. The most powerful financial institution in China formed a joint venture with tiny Rosemont Seneca to create a giant new investment firm called Bohai Harvest RST – the "RS" stands for Rosemont Seneca.

The firm is often called "BHR" for short.

Hunter Biden was a member of the Board. Remember, the Bank of China is government-owned, which means its business is completely intertwined with the goals of the Chinese Communist Party. BHR also got the freedom to operate in the newly created Shanghai Free-Trade Zone where, over the next six years, it would use $2.5 billion of Chinese government money to invest in China, as well as in other countries, including the U.S.

During their Beijing trip, Hunter also introduced Jonathan Li to his dad. Li is Hunter's business partner – he's CEO and Director of BHR.

Hunter arranged for Joe to meet Li in the lobby of the hotel where they stayed during their Beijing trip.


In 2014, one of BHR's first major investments was in the China General Nuclear Power Corporation.

CGN is a Chinese government-owned nuclear power company that sold off a stake of the company to outside investors. Problem is, CGN was under FBI investigation for paying informants in the U.S. to steal nuclear secrets.

In 2016, the FBI arrested the ringleader of this nuclear espionage, a man named Allen Ho.

When they arrested Ho, he was using a random code generator to access funds being provided to him from – where else? – the Bank of China.

Yet while this FBI probe was going on, the son of the Vice President owned a stake in the company being investigated. And even after arrests were made, Rosemont Seneca did not alter its relationship with BHR, nor did it divest from CGN, even though it was stealing U.S. nuclear secrets.


In 2015, BHR partnered with the Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC) to buy an American company called Henniges for $600 million.

AVIC is a gigantic military contractor in China – think Lockheed Martin – that makes fighter jets, bombers and drones. BHR bought 49% of Henniges and AVIC bought 51%.

Henniges is a precision parts manufacturer specializing in anti-vibration technology. The stuff they make is known as "dual use" by the U.S. State Department, which means the technology can also have a military application.

Because of that, the deal had to be approved by the Committee on Foreign Investment in the U.S. (CFIUS) since it could have national security implications. The thing is, the American side of BHR – meaning Hunter Biden and his pals – had to know there were serious national security implications with AVIC.

The year before they formed a partnership with AVIC, the Wall Street Journal reported how AVIC stole technology related to the U.S. Air Force's F-35 stealth fighter and used it in its own stealth fighter for the Chinese.

How the Committee on Foreign Investment approved that deal remains a mystery. CFIUS does not publicly disclose any information regarding its decisions. Their findings are not publicly announced.

Interesting that China accounted for the largest share – with 74 transactions – approved by CFIUS during Obama's second term (2013-2015).

Under the umbrella of Rosemont Capital was a real estate company called Rosemont Realty. In 2015, a Chinese company called Gemini Investments bought a 75% stake in Rosemont Realty. The company was renamed Gemini Rosemont

Gemini brought $3 billion to the partnership with Rosemont, with the aim of buying "Class A institutional-quality commercial office properties in U.S. markets."

Red flag (literally) – Gemini Investments is a subsidiary of the China Ocean Shipping Company, a.k.a., "COSCO."

COSCO is a Chinese government-owned company. Its headquarters in Beijing is actually next to the headquarters of the Bank of China. COSCO is well-known for its close military ties. It's essentially a branch of the Chinese Navy.


In 2017, BHR invested in Face++. That's the facial recognition phone app built by a Chinese company that is incorporated in a separate app built by the Chinese government. Police in the Xinjiang [Sin-jong] region of China use that app to keep tabs on citizens, and track and detain Uiguhr [Wee-ger] Muslims.

The app allows police easy access to data about Chinese Muslims including things like religious activity, blood type, and even the amount of electricity they use.


In March 2018, a spokesman (Chris Bastardi) for Christopher Heinz (John Kerry's stepson) emailed The Hill to say that Heinz had "no operating role" in Rosemont Seneca, and that he was not involved in any of Rosemont's deals in China (which contradicts Schweizer's report in his book Secret Empires).

Chris Heinz was involved in Rosemont Capital. Rosemont Seneca was established under the same GP as Rosemont Capital, but Chris Heinz had no operating role in it. Chris and his family have no financial interest or investment in Bohai Harvest RST, he has never traveled to China, and he has never met with the firm's Chinese management team or investors.


In October 2019, Hunter Biden's lawyer, George Mesires, said Hunter did not conduct any business on that 2013 trip to Beijing with his Dad.

Mesires said the timing of BHR's business license getting approved was purely coincidental because the paperwork had been submitted months before the Bidens' China trip.

According to Hunter's lawyer, the approval " was not related in any way, shape or form to Hunter's visit."

Hunter Biden finally stepped down from the BHR board last October (2019), but he DID NOT give up his 10% stake in the company.

When Bevan Cooney — the former "junior" business partner to Hunter Biden and Devon Archer — went to jail in 2019, investigative reporter and New York Times bestselling author Peter Schweizer thought he'd never gain access to the damning emails Cooney had promised. That all changed three weeks ago when Schweizer was given complete access to Cooney's gmail account.

Schweizer joined Glenn Beck on the radio program Tuesday to describe just some of the business deals revealed within these emails — like Hunter working with an alleged Russian criminal and with Chinese communists to secure their assets, or to secure one-on-one time with his dad, then-Vice President Joe Biden. And all of this new information is completely separate from the emails allegedly discovered on Hunter Biden's laptop recently reported by the New York Post.

"So, I want to make this clear. This [Cooney's emails] has nothing to do with what's on the laptop … It didn't come from [Rudy] Giuliani. It didn't come from anybody else, right?" Glenn asked Schweizer.

"That's absolutely correct," Schweizer confirmed.

He briefly explained how Cooney, a former Los Angeles nightclub owner, is currently serving a prison sentence for his involvement in a fraudulent business bond scheme with Biden and Archer. From prison, Cooney gave Schweizer written permission to access his Gmail account.

"This is really important," he noted. "We're not looking at printouts. Not looking at PDFs. We're actually in his Gmail accounts themselves, sifting through these emails. And there's a shocking amount of information about deals involving China, involving Russia, involving all sorts of things they were trying to pull off."

Watch the video below to catch more of the conversation:

Want more from Glenn Beck?

To enjoy more of Glenn's masterful storytelling, thought-provoking analysis and uncanny ability to make sense of the chaos, subscribe to BlazeTV — the largest multi-platform network of voices who love America, defend the Constitution and live the American dream.

The king of "No Spin" and bestselling author of "Killing Crazy Horse," Bill O'Reilly joined Glenn Beck on this week's podcast to talk about the latest developments in Joe Biden's Ukraine and China corruption scandal. Now that some of the details are finally coming out in the open, does the average Democrat care? Maybe, but the Left doesn't seem to.

O'Reilly argued there's more hatred for President Donald Trump now than in 2016, and that some people hate President Trump so much that they'd rather vote for the "senile, corrupt" Joe Biden.

"Hunter got tens of millions of dollars from Ukraine, from Russia, from China because his father was vice president. I have no doubt in my mind," O'Reilly said. "But the hatred for Donald Trump overrides that in the minds of millions of viewers. They're saying, 'You know, we'd rather have the senile corrupt guy than Trump.'"

Asked by Glenn if any other Republican running for president would be met with the same level of vitriol, O'Reilly answered, "The Left is the Left. They don't like America. The want to redo the Constitution. They want to take some of our freedoms, like the Second Amendment and the First Amendment, and change them. And they want to destroy capitalism and replace it with a big centralized government in Washington that controls the economy … but I'm talking about the folks. I have liberal friends and I say to them, 'Do you not understand that when you vote for Biden, you're voting against your own self interest?'"

Watch the video clip from the full podcast below, or find the full episode HERE:

Want to listen to more Glenn Beck podcasts?

Subscribe to Glenn Beck's channel on YouTube for FREE access to more of his masterful storytelling, thought-provoking analysis and uncanny ability to make sense of the chaos, or subscribe to BlazeTV — the largest multi-platform network of voices who love America, defend the Constitution and live the American dream.