Glenn Beck: James Patterson Interview

Against Medical Advice: One Family's Struggle with an Agonizing Medical Mystery

GLENN: James Patterson is in studio. He's got a new book and it is surprising that it is not fiction. I mean, you have --

STU: Nonfiction.

GLENN: This is the first nonfiction you've ever done?

PATTERSON: First narrative. I did a couple of research books but this is the first story.

GLENN: How many books have you written?

PATTERSON: I don't know. 50. How many, Michelle? 50.

GLENN: That's unbelievable. This is number 50?

PATTERSON: I don't know. 50, 51, somewhere in there. A lot of books.

GLENN: Unbelievable.

PATTERSON: But this is the one, Glenn, that I've gotten the most emotional and positive responses.

GLENN: This is an amazing book. It is called Against the Medical Advice and I mean, this has so many ramifications on everything that everybody is working -- everybody, everybody has a medical horror story. Everybody just trusts your doctor. I mean, I did it. They almost killed me. I did it.

PATTERSON: Be careful now because my wife's in the studio and she's being operated on tomorrow.

GLENN: They are great, they are fantastic. My daughter has cerebral palsy. I didn't know what to do. I mean, you are not an expert and so you listen to people. You were approached by someone -- well, tell Cory's story.

PATTERSON: A very good friend of mine, worked with him, Hal Friedman for many, many years, and his son Cory at 5 years old woke up shaking and terrified and this condition which was a combination of OCD, Tourette's and a couple of other complications, and it went on from 5 until he was a teenager, 17, 18 years old.

GLENN: Explain. Because most people think that Tourette's is you shout out an obscenity. I don't know. Do you know Richard Paul Evans?

PATTERSON: I do, yeah.

GLENN: He has Tourette's and, you know, we become friends and every time I see him, he has to -- I could tell he's restraining himself.

PATTERSON: Right.

GLENN: He actually has the urge to spit on celebrities. And I keep trying to convince him, I ain't a celebrity; you shouldn't want to spit on me. You should spit on me for other reasons. But it's not just --

PATTERSON: It's generally not cursing.

GLENN: Right.

PATTERSON: The cursing I think is about 10% of people with Tourette's or something like, maybe a little less than that. But it is severe ticks, discomfort. I mean, hopping, in Cory's case, a lot of hopping, jumping around. What I tried to do with this book is I wanted to write -- I think a lot of nonfiction is really tedious and impossible to read. I hoped to write a nonfiction book that was as riveting as the mysteries that I write. And so everything is an anecdote in the book, and this is when Cory was in little league. This was the high point of his youth, really a difficult growing up period because of so much teasing and difficulties in school and whatever. Anyway, when he was in little league and he's feeling great, he's pitching and he's doing well and he still has the ticks. I mean, the ticks, the other team started making fun of his ticks, including the coaches.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh.

PATTERSON: If you can believe. And so here it is. And to make people feel that in the chapter, make readers feel it, that was my job with Hal, to make sure that every single -- it was another thing when he was playing football, same thing.

GLENN: How did the parents deal with this?

PATTERSON: Well, from my point of view, I mean, you work with people and let's say you know that there's a problem in the family. I worked with Hal right through this period. And having now know the whole story, I don't know how he came in to work in the morning. I don't know how he did it. But people do it. And that's one of the things out there. I mean, as you said, just about everybody who's listening has had some experience with this where you go in and the doctors can't figure it out.

GLENN: Okay.

PATTERSON: And I'm not knocking doctors.

GLENN: Yeah, I know. Okay. So the doctors, how much medication was Cory on at one point?

PATTERSON: I think in the course of the thing, he went through over 40 different drug treatments and a comparable number of doctors. So it was a lot of doctors in a real long period of time. And the great thing about this family -- and this is, if you knew the family, they are just the kind of family -- and Cory as a kid, they just don't give up. The great thing with Cory, we talked about telling a story. And this took about five years to write this book. And Cory said, "Okay," because he got the notion that, he said, "In my story can help other people with what I went through, can help other people, one, it's going to bring more meaning to my life." And it will. And the thing that has him floating right now is he's getting these responses. I mean, just hundreds and hundreds. This one mother wrote in and she had her two sons, her two kids read the book because they both have Tourette's and the older one said to his mother before he went to school, he said, "If Cory can do it, I can do it." And that's just stunning stuff.

GLENN: Now, this is not a book that you read if you have Tourette's.

PATTERSON: No, no.

GLENN: I mean, this is a more universal story about --

PATTERSON: I mean, when I'm loving once again as I get back to, you know, different -- on my website, whatever, is people just going, "I could not put this thing down and at the end of it, I felt so involved with this family and so uplifted."

GLENN: Right. And it's the story of how the experts don't have the answers.

PATTERSON: A lot of times they don't.

GLENN: And sometimes you've got to say, you know what, I'm going in another direction.

PATTERSON: Absolutely. Look, we got the economic system. Obviously a lot of people made the wrong calls there. The political thing, everybody, you know, whatever.

GLENN: Yeah.

PATTERSON: Who do you listen to. That's the big problem in life, always has been. Always will be.

GLENN: And here's the great answer: Yourself. You listen to you, you know? And that's hard to do sometimes.

PATTERSON: Yeah, yeah. Well, that's what this family did. They kept using their own common sense and they would go, no, let's go here, let's do this. And ultimately it worked out. I mean, there's a couple of things at the end of the book that are just so stunning. One is an intervention where they took this -- or where Cory went to a wilderness camp and had to, for several weeks, just be his own person and, you know, deal with climbing in the snow for three weeks and whatever. And then what happened with his mother and Cory at school to ensure that he graduated the year that he wanted to graduate.

GLENN: I tell you, it is a story of struggle, it is a story of personal strength, it is a story of perseverance, it is a story of hope. It is a story that a lot of Americans face. It is a story of America in many ways.

PATTERSON: Well, and we all are looking for a little good news right now.

GLENN: Yeah, I know. That's why I really like it, James, is because it has that -- you know, we're all facing problems. One thing or another, doesn't have to be a medical problem. We're all facing something that we're just like, this is too big for me to even handle, I don't know how to handle it. And it just empowers you to look inside yourself and say, trust your gut. You know right and wrong. Just trust your gut and you keep going because you'll make it. You'll make it.

PATTERSON: Right. And concentrate. Focus.

GLENN: Well, that's kind of hard for some of us to do. The name of the book is Against Medical Advice. Very, very hopeful, very different, from James Patterson. Jim, thank you very much.

PATTERSON: You bet.

GLENN: Thank you.

Former President Barack Obama sat down with CNN's Anderson Cooper recently for an interview scheduled to air in full on Friday. During the interview, Obama scoffed at the idea that critical race theory could be a "threat to our Republic," while claiming that "right-wing media venues" are "stoking the fear and resentment of a white population."

On the radio program Wednesday, Glenn Beck set the record straight: the right-wing media's efforts to call out the far-left have nothing to do with race in America, but rather everything to do with protecting our way of life that is being threatened more and more each day by the radical, Marxist ideology seeping into government.

"Mr. Obama, you lied," Glenn asserted. "You used the IRS to hunt down your enemy. You spied on the media. And your health care package, which was supposed to save every American $3,000 per year, has helped some, perhaps, while raising the cost of everyone's health care in double and triple percentages. But the worst thing that you did, is you planted, you watered, and you protected the Marxist seeds, by crying race."

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Our sacred republic has never been in more danger than it is today. Little by little, industry by industry, the far Left is fundamentally transforming the country we love. And it's an aggressive, hostile kind of takeover we've only seen in some of the world's darkest societies.

On Glenn TV this week, Glenn Beck exposes how the Biden administration and Democrats are aggressively scrambling to reset everything: our free and fair voting system, our kids' education, our policing, immigration and border security, our economy, our military, and our energy supply.

Finally, Congressman Dan Crenshaw (R-Texas) joins to discuss how Biden's "woke" policies are threatening America's national security and our way of life.

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Apparel company The North Face recently stated that it would no longer make jackets for oil and gas companies because it doesn't want to be associated with the fossil fuel industry. In response, Colorado-based oil and gas company Liberty Oilfield Services rented full billboard ads to remind The North Face of the truth: "Globally, 60% of all clothing fibers are made out of oil and gas. For North Face, it is likely 90% or more."

Liberty CEO Chris Wright joined Glenn Beck on the radio program Tuesday to discuss just how much of our economy — beyond outdoor apparel and energy — wouldn't exist in a world without fossil fuels. And he warns that many companies are now deeming this truth to be "controversial."

"I have been for years, trying to get a real, honest dialogue about energy going," Chris told Glenn. "So we took this opportunity to point out that North Face jackets are ... almost completely made out of oil and gas. How can you choose not to associate with the essential material your equipment [is] made out of? So we put a billboard up ... the billboard says, 'That North Face puffer looks good on you. And it was made from fossil fuels.'"

"Most billboard companies did not want to run that billboard. They thought it was controversial," he added. "And Facebook put a hold on our brief video just saying the jacket looks good, this is what it's made out of. In today's world, that is controversial."

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During a lecture at the Yale School of Medicine's Child Study Center, a New York City-based psychiatrist told students and faculty that she fantasizes about "unloading a revolver into the head of any white person that got in my way," among several other shockingly race-hating statements.

In April, Dr. Aruna Khilanani — a New York-based forensic psychiatrist and psychoanalyst — delivered the talk called "The Psychopathic Problem of the White Mind" virtually as part of the Yale School of Medicine's "Child Study Center Grand Rounds," a lecture program for "trainees in child psychiatry, psychology, and social work, faculty, clinicians, and scientists."

On the radio program Monday, Glenn Beck shared several quotes from an audio recording of the lecture provided by Bari Weiss, a former opinion writer and editor for the New York Times.

Here are a few of Khilanani's statements from the audio:

  • "This is the cost of talking to white people at all. The cost of your own life, as they suck you dry. There are no good apples out there. White people make my blood boil."
  • "I had fantasies of unloading a revolver into the head of any white person that got in my way, burying their body, and wiping my bloody hands as I walked away relatively guiltless with a bounce in my step. Like I did the world a f***ing favor."
  • "White people are out of their minds. And they have been for a long time."
  • "White people feel that we are bullying them when we bring up race. They feel that we should be thanking them for all that they have done for us. They are confused, and so are we. We keep forgetting that directly talking about race is a waste of our breath."
  • "We are asking a demented, violent predator who thinks that they are a saint or a superhero, to accept responsibility. It ain't gonna happen. They have five holes in their brain. It's like banging your head against a brick wall. It's just like sort of not a good idea."

"We must take a stand. We must speak out, because this is evil," Glenn said in response to Khilanani's shocking lecture. "I don't care who you voted for, you know this is evil."

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