Glenn Beck: James Patterson Interview

Against Medical Advice: One Family's Struggle with an Agonizing Medical Mystery

GLENN: James Patterson is in studio. He's got a new book and it is surprising that it is not fiction. I mean, you have --

STU: Nonfiction.

GLENN: This is the first nonfiction you've ever done?

PATTERSON: First narrative. I did a couple of research books but this is the first story.

GLENN: How many books have you written?

PATTERSON: I don't know. 50. How many, Michelle? 50.

GLENN: That's unbelievable. This is number 50?

PATTERSON: I don't know. 50, 51, somewhere in there. A lot of books.

GLENN: Unbelievable.

PATTERSON: But this is the one, Glenn, that I've gotten the most emotional and positive responses.

GLENN: This is an amazing book. It is called Against the Medical Advice and I mean, this has so many ramifications on everything that everybody is working -- everybody, everybody has a medical horror story. Everybody just trusts your doctor. I mean, I did it. They almost killed me. I did it.

PATTERSON: Be careful now because my wife's in the studio and she's being operated on tomorrow.

GLENN: They are great, they are fantastic. My daughter has cerebral palsy. I didn't know what to do. I mean, you are not an expert and so you listen to people. You were approached by someone -- well, tell Cory's story.

PATTERSON: A very good friend of mine, worked with him, Hal Friedman for many, many years, and his son Cory at 5 years old woke up shaking and terrified and this condition which was a combination of OCD, Tourette's and a couple of other complications, and it went on from 5 until he was a teenager, 17, 18 years old.

GLENN: Explain. Because most people think that Tourette's is you shout out an obscenity. I don't know. Do you know Richard Paul Evans?

PATTERSON: I do, yeah.

GLENN: He has Tourette's and, you know, we become friends and every time I see him, he has to -- I could tell he's restraining himself.

PATTERSON: Right.

GLENN: He actually has the urge to spit on celebrities. And I keep trying to convince him, I ain't a celebrity; you shouldn't want to spit on me. You should spit on me for other reasons. But it's not just --

PATTERSON: It's generally not cursing.

GLENN: Right.

PATTERSON: The cursing I think is about 10% of people with Tourette's or something like, maybe a little less than that. But it is severe ticks, discomfort. I mean, hopping, in Cory's case, a lot of hopping, jumping around. What I tried to do with this book is I wanted to write -- I think a lot of nonfiction is really tedious and impossible to read. I hoped to write a nonfiction book that was as riveting as the mysteries that I write. And so everything is an anecdote in the book, and this is when Cory was in little league. This was the high point of his youth, really a difficult growing up period because of so much teasing and difficulties in school and whatever. Anyway, when he was in little league and he's feeling great, he's pitching and he's doing well and he still has the ticks. I mean, the ticks, the other team started making fun of his ticks, including the coaches.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh.

PATTERSON: If you can believe. And so here it is. And to make people feel that in the chapter, make readers feel it, that was my job with Hal, to make sure that every single -- it was another thing when he was playing football, same thing.

GLENN: How did the parents deal with this?

PATTERSON: Well, from my point of view, I mean, you work with people and let's say you know that there's a problem in the family. I worked with Hal right through this period. And having now know the whole story, I don't know how he came in to work in the morning. I don't know how he did it. But people do it. And that's one of the things out there. I mean, as you said, just about everybody who's listening has had some experience with this where you go in and the doctors can't figure it out.

GLENN: Okay.

PATTERSON: And I'm not knocking doctors.

GLENN: Yeah, I know. Okay. So the doctors, how much medication was Cory on at one point?

PATTERSON: I think in the course of the thing, he went through over 40 different drug treatments and a comparable number of doctors. So it was a lot of doctors in a real long period of time. And the great thing about this family -- and this is, if you knew the family, they are just the kind of family -- and Cory as a kid, they just don't give up. The great thing with Cory, we talked about telling a story. And this took about five years to write this book. And Cory said, "Okay," because he got the notion that, he said, "In my story can help other people with what I went through, can help other people, one, it's going to bring more meaning to my life." And it will. And the thing that has him floating right now is he's getting these responses. I mean, just hundreds and hundreds. This one mother wrote in and she had her two sons, her two kids read the book because they both have Tourette's and the older one said to his mother before he went to school, he said, "If Cory can do it, I can do it." And that's just stunning stuff.

GLENN: Now, this is not a book that you read if you have Tourette's.

PATTERSON: No, no.

GLENN: I mean, this is a more universal story about --

PATTERSON: I mean, when I'm loving once again as I get back to, you know, different -- on my website, whatever, is people just going, "I could not put this thing down and at the end of it, I felt so involved with this family and so uplifted."

GLENN: Right. And it's the story of how the experts don't have the answers.

PATTERSON: A lot of times they don't.

GLENN: And sometimes you've got to say, you know what, I'm going in another direction.

PATTERSON: Absolutely. Look, we got the economic system. Obviously a lot of people made the wrong calls there. The political thing, everybody, you know, whatever.

GLENN: Yeah.

PATTERSON: Who do you listen to. That's the big problem in life, always has been. Always will be.

GLENN: And here's the great answer: Yourself. You listen to you, you know? And that's hard to do sometimes.

PATTERSON: Yeah, yeah. Well, that's what this family did. They kept using their own common sense and they would go, no, let's go here, let's do this. And ultimately it worked out. I mean, there's a couple of things at the end of the book that are just so stunning. One is an intervention where they took this -- or where Cory went to a wilderness camp and had to, for several weeks, just be his own person and, you know, deal with climbing in the snow for three weeks and whatever. And then what happened with his mother and Cory at school to ensure that he graduated the year that he wanted to graduate.

GLENN: I tell you, it is a story of struggle, it is a story of personal strength, it is a story of perseverance, it is a story of hope. It is a story that a lot of Americans face. It is a story of America in many ways.

PATTERSON: Well, and we all are looking for a little good news right now.

GLENN: Yeah, I know. That's why I really like it, James, is because it has that -- you know, we're all facing problems. One thing or another, doesn't have to be a medical problem. We're all facing something that we're just like, this is too big for me to even handle, I don't know how to handle it. And it just empowers you to look inside yourself and say, trust your gut. You know right and wrong. Just trust your gut and you keep going because you'll make it. You'll make it.

PATTERSON: Right. And concentrate. Focus.

GLENN: Well, that's kind of hard for some of us to do. The name of the book is Against Medical Advice. Very, very hopeful, very different, from James Patterson. Jim, thank you very much.

PATTERSON: You bet.

GLENN: Thank you.

On Friday's radio program, Bill O'Reilly joins Glenn Beck discuss the possible outcomes for the Democrats in 2020.

Why are former President Barack and First Lady Michelle Obama working overtime to convince Americans they're more moderate than most of the far-left Democratic presidential candidates? Is there a chance of a Michelle Obama vs. Donald Trump race this fall?

O'Reilly surmised that a post-primary nomination would probably be more of a "Bloomberg play." He said Michael Bloomberg might actually stand a chance at the Democratic nomination if there is a brokered convention, as many Democratic leaders are fearfully anticipating.

"Bloomberg knows he doesn't really have a chance to get enough delegates to win," O'Reilly said. "He's doing two things: If there's a brokered convention, there he is. And even if there is a nominee, it will probably be Biden, and Biden will give [him] Secretary of State or Secretary of Treasury. That's what Bloomberg wants."

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On the "Glenn Beck Radio Program" Friday, award-winning investigative reporter John Solomon, a central figure in the impeachment proceedings, explained his newly filed lawsuit, which seeks the records of contact between Ukraine prosecutors and the U.S. Embassy officials in Kiev during the 2016 election.

The records would provide valuable information on what really happened in Ukraine, including what then-Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter were doing with Ukrainian energy company, Burisma Holdings, Solomon explained.

The documents, which the State Department has withheld thus far despite repeated requests for release by Solomon, would likely shed light on the alleged corruption that President Donald Trump requested to be investigated during his phone call with the president of Ukraine last year.

With the help of Southeastern Legal Foundation, Solomon's lawsuit seeks to compel the State Department to release the critical records. Once released, the records are expected to reveal, once and for all, exactly why President Trump wanted to investigate the dealings in Ukraine, and finally expose the side of the story that Democrats are trying to hide in their push for impeachment.

"It's been a one-sided story so far, just like the beginning of the Russia collusion story, right? Everybody was certain on Jan. 9 of 2017 that the Christopher Steele dossier was gospel. And our president was an agent of Russia. Three years later, we learned that all of that turned out to be bunk, " Solomon said.

"The most important thing about politics, and about investigations, is that there are two sides to a story. There are two pieces of evidence. And right now, we've only seen one side of it," he continued. "I think we'll learn a lot about what the intelligence community, what the economic and Treasury Department community was telling the president. And I bet the story was way more complicated than the narrative that [House Intelligence Committee Chairman] Adam Schiff [D-Calif.] has woven so far."

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Carter Page, a former advisor to Donald Trump's 2016 presidential campaign, found himself at the center of the Russia probe and had his reputation and career destroyed by what we now know were lies from our own intelligence system and the media.

On the TV show Thursday, Page joined Glenn Beck to speak out about how he became the subject of illegal electronic surveillance by the FBI for more than two years, and revealed the extent of the corruption that has infiltrated our legal systems and our country as a whole.

"To me, the bigger issue is how much damage this has done to our country," Page told Glenn. "I've been very patient in trying to ... find help with finding solutions and correcting this terrible thing which has happened to our country, our judicial system, DOJ, FBI -- these once-great institutions. And my bigger concern is the fact that, although we keep taking these steps forward in terms of these important findings, it really remains the tip of the iceberg."

Page was referencing the report by Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz, which revealed that the FBI made "at least 17 significant errors or omissions" in its Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) applications for warrants to spy on Page, a U.S. citizen.

"I think this needs to be attacked from all angles," Glenn said. "The one angle I'm interested in from you is, please tell me you have the biggest badass attorneys that are hungry, starving, maybe are a little low to pay their Mercedes payments right now, and are just gearing up to come after the government and the media. Are they?"

I can confirm that that is the case," Page replied.

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On Wednesday's TV show, Glenn Beck sat down with radio show host, author, political commentator, and film critic, Michael Medved.

Michael had an interesting prediction for the 2020 election outcome: a brokered convention by the DNC will usher in former First Lady Michelle Obama to run against President Donald Trump.

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