GLENN: Andrew McCarthy says let's try a thought experiment. Say John McCain attended a party where known racists and terror mongers were in attendance. Say testimonials were given including a growing one by McCain for the benefit of the guest of honor who happened to be a top apologist for terrorists. Say that McCain not only gave a speech but stood by, approval and solidarity while other racists and terror mongers gave speeches that wreaked of hatred for an American ally and rationalization of terror attacks. Now let's say that the Los Angeles Times obtained videotape of the party. The question is, is there any chance, any chance whatsoever that the Times would not release the tape and publish front page story after story about the gory details with the usual accompanying chorus of sanction money from the op-ed commentaries. If the times was the least bit reluctant about publishing -- remember we're pretending here -- that the rest of the mainstream media, you know the guys who drove Trent Lott out of his leadership position over a birthday party, would not be screaming for the release of the Tape. Of course they would. Andrew McCarthy brings us the details now of this real life scenario except it's not John McCain. It's Barack Obama. Hey, Andrew, how are you?
McCARTHY: Hey, how are you?
GLENN: I'm not surprised by this story. I've been watching Khalidi for a while and thinking to myself, when is this thing ever going to break, and you are bringing it. Tell us about the tape that the Los Angeles Times has.
McCARTHY: Well, in 2003 there was a farewell party for Rasheed Khalidi. He was leaving the University of Chicago to go to Columbia here in the New York area.
GLENN: Who is he so people know?
McCARTHY: Exactly. He was a spokesman for the PLO during the Arafat days and also was an advisor to Arafat during the peace negotiations.
GLENN: Well, that doesn't mean, that doesn't -- well, he was an advisor during the peace negotiations. That doesn't mean that he's a bad guy.
McCARTHY: Well, if you get peace negotiations by sort of bombing your way to the table, I think that needs to be factored in. In any event he's a longtime admirer of both the ideology and methodology of Yasser Arafat. His wife Mona was the top English translator in Arafat's publicity department at the PLO and together they put together something called the Arab American Action Network which when Barack Obama and Bill Ayers teamed you be to be on the board at the Woods Foundation, they underwrote that organization, the Arab American Action Network to the tune of tens of thousands of dollars.
GLENN: And what's wrong with an Arab American Action Network? Don't we all need an action network? Isn't that like the white people's Justice League?
McCARTHY: Well, yeah, I suppose they have every right to Confederate and take their positions but I would think people would be interested in what their positions were, which basically is to an apologist for Palestinian tore and to take other positions like driver's licenses and other public welfare benefits for illegal aliens.
McCARTHY: So they are a leftist outfit of the same sort of coin as many of the other outfits that were funded by Ayers and Obama when they worked together during the Nineties.
GLENN: Okay. But I mean, this was just a party of a guy that he knew that he really didn't know and it was just a regular party. I mean, who else was there? There had to be some friends of Ronald Reagan there as well.
McCARTHY: Well, there were other friends. You know the who guys that hardly know each other at all, Obama and Ayers, it turns out by some really funky coincidence that they just happened to have the same best friend, Rasheed Khalidi. And as it happens then Khalidi, who is a frequent dinner command I don't know of the Obamas, also had in attendance at his going-away, Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, the former weatherman terrorist. There are also a variety of other Palestinian friends and allies of Khalidi and the night was a night of testimonials not just to Khalidi but to the cause.
GLENN: Give me, give me some examples of what was said.
McCARTHY: Well, there were basically, there was one glowing testimonial that was given by Obama which as the LA Times reported was of a different sort of ferocity -- I guess ferocity is the wrong tone for Obama but it was a different tone for some of the other speeches. There were strident speeches that were given that basically portrayed Israel as a terrorist state and illegitimate, which shouldn't be surprising to anyone because that is what Khalidi's position has been. Khalidi has been somebody who has supported terrorist attacks at least on official Israeli targets. As I understand it, he at least says he doesn't support terrorist attacks against civilian targets but military and official government Israeli targets he has encouraged as something he calls resistance rather than terrorism.
GLENN: But Barack Obama, this happened in 2003. He was only 42 when Khalidi said those things.
McCARTHY: Yeah, that is true. He hadn't reached, I guess the age of reason. What is the age of reason for lefties these days?
GLENN: I'm not really sure. Okay, so he's at this with William Ayers. This is the Arab American Action Network is something that the Woods Foundation funded with Barack Obama's signature on it.
GLENN: He was with a bunch of people that were celebrating Khalidi getting his professorship, I guess, at Columbia University. This is a farewell party for him.
McCARTHY: Yes, right.
GLENN: But can't it be said that he didn't really know Khalidi, he wasn't aware of who Khalidi really was. I mean, we all go to parties and we all say things about people who are leaving. I mean, they didn't really know each other, did they, Andrew?
McCARTHY: Well, from what we understand, they knew each other actually quite well. The families were intimate friends to the point that at least some reports indicate that the Khalidis actually baby-sat for the Obama children and even by Obama's own account at the party when he gave his speech, he and his wife were frequent dinner companions of the Khalidis and shared long meals and long conversations which according to Obama opened his eyes to his own prejudices, whatever those may be.
GLENN: Why do you hate people who are different than you, Andrew? I mean, it's unbelievable. Okay, so Andrew, the LA Times, they have the videotape.
GLENN: Where do they get the videotape?
McCARTHY: Well, the reporter, Mr. Wallson, has not disclosed what his source is for the videotape and to the extent that he's given any indication at all, a blog site called Gateway Pundit has interviewed him and he basically said he considers the story over and didn't have any intention of releasing the tape.
GLENN: Andrew, have you ever seen anything like this?
McCARTHY: Well, no. In all seriousness I think this transcends the normal media bias that is basically a fact of life but is a constant irritant but something that we learned to live with. This really to me is more like the mainstream media being recruited in a wholesale fashion to be a subsidiary or surrogate of the national campaign. It really is an astounding phenomenon and I think it's of a dimension.
GLENN: Why do you think the media's doing this?
McCARTHY: They want Obama to win.
GLENN: Do they have any idea what that is possibly going to mean to free speech?
McCARTHY: I think they think that left wing free speech will be just fine. I don't think -- you know, they could end up being, you know, like the people who helped the left, you know. I think they think they will be fine and I think that Obama, really the instantiation in a way of everything that they have always held to be ideal. This is like one of them who is rising to the top and embodies all their hopes and dreams of what they call social justice and economic justice and what the rest of us call socialism.
GLENN: Andrew, what do you -- if you looked into your crystal ball and we just keep turning away and Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama are in the office, what do you think comes our way here in the next 12 months?
McCARTHY: I think we have a terrible time in the short-term. I think we have a terrible time economically when people start to see what redistributive economic justice really looks like. I think a lot of people are going to lose their jobs, a lot of wealth is going to be lost in the economy and I think frankly we're going to be a much less let's say nation.
GLENN: I don't know why you would say that. Barney Frank just said he wants the military cut by 25%.
McCARTHY: Yes, in order to create the department of peace and nonviolent resolution, I think I -- I wish that was a joke, by the way, Glenn. They actually have a proposal in the House that's House Rule I think 808 or something, in 2007. They want to create the department of peace which has a variety of different sub agencies, but it would be a cabinet level agency.
GLENN: I think that's a Dennis Kucinich idea.
McCARTHY: I thought it was a Saturday Night Live set when I just heard it.
GLENN: I don't know. Andrew, stay on the story. Bring us up to date on anything else that breaks. Thank you so much, sir. Appreciate it. Bye-bye.