GLENN: We have Tara Setmayer on? Does she have an update for us?
GLENN: Tara, are you there? Do you have an update on Compean and Ramos?
SETMAYER: Hi, Glenn, yes, I am. I'm here in El Paso, Texas. I just came from the federal courtroom where the second part of the resentencing hearings happened today. Compean was yesterday. Today was Ramos. And everyone went into this with no expectations. The reason why this is even happening is because as you know, over the summer the appellate court upheld, excuse me, all of their convictions except for the tampering with evidence charge to enforce it to be resentenced. It's more of a legal formality. However, Ramos' attorney took the opportunity to make some requests concerning the housing conditions that they are under. Compean's attorney did not do this. They were separately resentenced. So today what happened, unfortunately the judge cannot touch the ten-year mandatory minimum gun charge. That's the 924(c), unlawful discharge of a firearm sentence that we've been very upset about that we felt was too harsh.
SETMAYER: The judge does not have any discretion, cannot change that. He did ask, though, that the year and the day sentencing be counted toward the ten year gun charge, that he can start earlier. She expectedly, which is the same judge who they were tried before, she expectedly did nothing. She upheld everything. The sentence remained the same. And something else that people didn't realize, they are assessed a $250,000 fine per charge, and they were charged with four counts. So they are looking at a million dollars worth of fines once they get out of prison ten years from now. It's just unbelievable. The only up side to what happened today is the judge did take into consideration making a recommendation to the Bureau of Prisons to remove Ramos from solitary confinement and to recommend he be put into a prison camp. This is something we've been pushing for for almost two years because many people know they are in solitary confinement 23 out of 24 hours a day, very limited everything. So we're hoping that the Bureau of Prisons takes the judge's recommendation into consideration and moves Mr. Ramos out of solitary confinement.
GLENN: Tara, any chance the President says, okay, look, I'm not going to take the -- I'm not going to take the crime away but I will say time served here? Is there any chance President Bush decides to relieve their sentence as the last thing he does before he leaves office?
SETMAYER: Well, given the way that this case has gone, I cannot call it either way. Every time we see an injustice and we think how can they possibly rule against us, they have. But I can tell you at this point, they have submitted their commutation application officially, it is before the pardon attorney. We have given up asking for a pardon because we've seen that this administration has dug its heels in and a pardon would be a rebuke of Johnny Sutton and their buddies. We're going for commutation. And I encourage the American people who feel they still want to be involved, what can they do, they can write to the pardon attorney, they can write to the President and ask from a humanitarian perspective, do these men really deserve this type of sentence. It's already a life sentence for their families, for their children. Do they really deserve this, have a heart, use that Christian charity that the President always talks about and commute their sentences. And it's going up the chain now and congress is going to start ramping up our efforts now that the election is over to really appeal to the humanitarian aspect of this. Even Johnny Sutton himself has said that this was too harsh of a punishment, even though he chose to bring it. And I visited with Ramos yesterday again and he once again wanted me to say thank you to you guys and to all the American people who have supported him and the heart-breaking part about today sitting in that courtroom was when they brought him out in shackles and took him away. His wife and his children were sitting in the front row and they were crying and he mouthed to them, I love you, don't cry, don't cry. And it was just heart-breaking to watch this whole thing unfold and look at the people who are responsible for this, but he's in good spirits and he's still confident and holding his head up high and that's really thanks to all the prayers and support of you guys and the American people.
GLENN: Tara, what is -- how do we get a hold of the attorney? Who do people write to? How do they get a hold of them?
SETMAYER: It would be the pardon attorney at the Department of Justice. I'm in transit but I'll be happy to send you the information and you can maybe post it on your website. I'll get all the exact information of the name and address, but for people who want to get a jump start on that, if they look up the U.S. pardon attorney at the Department of Justice, all that information should be online.
GLENN: Tara, thanks a lot. I appreciate it.
SETMAYER: You're welcome, Glenn, thank you.
GLENN: We'll get you that information, it will be on the website today or tomorrow and we'll talk about it again tomorrow. I will tell you this. I think people are just going to -- I think you are going to see more of this kind of stuff. I really do. I mean, this government has gotten away with Compean and Ramos. It's been dirty since the beginning. I didn't believe it at the beginning. You know, I'm an American. I love my country. I don't -- I'm a guy who doesn't believe the worst in people. I don't want to believe any of this stuff. I looked at this stuff with Compean and Ramos and I said, well, why were they picking the shells up? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. When you really do your homework, when you really look into this case, this is dirty from the getgo. And there's just so much going on that we've been lied to for a very long time and if they can get away with it with Compean and Ramos, first they came for the Jews and I didn't say anything because I wasn't a Jew. First they came for our border guards and I didn't say anything because I'm not a border guard. I didn't really pay attention. I didn't really care. I fear, America. We had 150,000 political prisoners in this country before. Did you know that? During the Wilson administration. 150,000 people in prison for speaking out against World War I, for speaking out against the Wilson administration. It has happened before. Now, what is your view on the Constitution? Do you agree with what congress is doing right now? How much longer will they allow you to speak? How much longer before you find yourself unable to speak? First they came from the border guards. Because I wasn't a border guard. You need to speak up.