Glenn Beck talks with Jonah Goldberg


Liberal Fascism by Jonah Goldberg

GLENN: We go to one of my favorite writers, Jonah Goldberg, on the program. Hey, Jonah, how are you, sir?

GOLDBERG: I'm good. How are you?

GLENN: I'm good, I'm good. You know, Jonah, there are two books that I have found -- sorry I'm losing my voice, but there are two books that I found over the last year that I talked an awful lot about and I don't know if either author really, really understands the impact that their books could have if people really read them. One of them was Amity Shlaes. She wrote a history book on the Great Depression and she herself didn't even see the parallels in it, as I talked to her about it a couple of years ago and I said -- or maybe a year ago and I said, you know, Amity, it's the same stuff. And she didn't even see it until recently. Jonah, I don't know. Do you see in your book, Liberal Fascism, do you see everything starting to come together and repeat itself right now?

GOLDBERG: Oh, I can't imagine why you are saying that. Just because we had a cultish movement, youth movement that elected a supreme leader who was seen as a spiritual savior and redeemer of society who promised to create a civilian national security force, I mean, I have no idea why you would think there would be any relevance for my book today.

GLENN: When you started writing it, Jonah, you didn't know this was -- did you know this was all coming?

GOLDBERG: Well, you know, on one sense, you know, I would wake up over much of the last year saying, does Barack Obama really, is his chief motive here to sell more copies of my book? And so some of it really sort of surprised me. You know, the YouTube videos where they sort of turn him into this Messiah figure and the glassy-eyed children look like they are doing a North Korea pageant, that kind of stuff really surprised me but on the other hand the whole theme of my book is that these themes, these impulses, these motivating passions that we saw in, you know, the first half of the 20th century never went away and that they still exist in deluded form in contemporary American liberalism. And if that's true, and I think it was true, then it should be true of Barack Obama and lo and behold it is. So in one sense it makes sense. It's nice confirmation of my argument because, you know, I ended the book with a discussion essentially about Hillary Clinton and it turns out the person who defeated Hillary Clinton better represented the themes of my book than Hillary Clinton herself.

GLENN: Well, I will tell you this, Jonah. And please, if you have not picked up Liberal Fascism, when did it come out, a year ago?

GOLDBERG: In January.

GLENN: Oh, January. Gosh, time flies. In January I read this book and it opened my eyes to the history of this country and how things have been done in the past and what's coming our way, and I tell you I was up -- you know, I'm rehearsing this Broadway stage show that we're doing, that we're taking around and I'm in these big Broadway rehearsal halls there in Manhattan and let me just say I'm the first conservative commentator probably to ever use these rooms to rehearse in. And I was there night before last and it's about 10:00 at night and I walk out around the corner and here are all these 20-somethings and they are all wearing either Obama T-shirts or, you know, Obama pins or anything else. And when I walk around the corner, everybody just stops and they just look at me, and I look at one of the pins or whatever on the guy's jacket and I said, hey, how are you guys? And they went, fine. And as soon as I turn the corner -- this is how stupid they are, like I couldn't hear them -- they all just started laughing at, did you see that? He looked at it, man, he looked at it; we're showing him.

GOLDBERG: (Laughing).

GLENN: And it was, A, so ridiculous and I wanted to turn around and go, "Are you guys 12?" But it gave me the chills in the way I know how fascism has started in the past and it just feels like brown shirts are on the way. Am I --

GOLDBERG: I want to be careful.

GLENN: I'm not saying that that is but I just feel this anger from the extreme left and they could just so -- you know, it's, you're a Holocaust denier if you don't believe in global warming.

GOLDBERG: Well, you know, and it's funny. I did this thing the other day. You know, during the election they were calling Barack Obama a Messiah, a redeemer, the one and all that stuff and these guys want to ratchet down expectations. So now they are just comparing him to Abraham Lincoln and FDR, you know?


GLENN: Yeah, I know.

GOLDBERG: And, you know, I agree with you entirely that the psychology of -- there are a lot of college campuses talking about this book. The psychology of a lot of these Obama sort of kids, these kids with open toed shoes and closed minds, they have the same thing that youth always have, you know, more passion and idealism and certainty about the rightness of their position than they have wisdom or knowledge or experience. That's why we call them youth. You know, but they are not going to be brown shirts. This country is just too decent a place for them to be brown shirts. I think they could be green shirts, they could be, you know, the sort of environmentalist little, you know, kids who inform on their parents, who -- actually there's a British utility that has just launched a program called Climate Talks where they want kids to inform on their parents and develop a criminal dossier on their parents when their parents don't recycle, don't respect the environment and all that kind of stuff. So it can still be really, really bad but I don't think we're going to see, you know, pure Nazi style brown shirt thuggery but we'll see all sorts of things we don't wanted to see.

GLENN: Jonah, tell me -- thank you for saying this. You give me a little bit of hope, but I have to disagree with you. I see, I just see the beginning, and I don't mean that it's Barack Obama per se. I just see this, the far left, you know, the people who have been in that, you know, Michael Moore/Sean Penn kind of camp for a long time that would like to put other people in an actual camp, you know, you are seeing it now everywhere. They are starting to take on God, they are starting to blame things on conservatives, the hatred of talk radio.

I read an article where it was quoting the violence of talk radio and yet what's his name, William Ayers, can blow up buildings, write a book about it, say that it was okay, say that there are a lot of parallels from the 1960s to today and young people might consider what are they willing to do as long as nobody's harmed and yet we're the violent ones. And, you know, I've been reading the words of -- one of my researchers, I have him doing a lot of research on Adolf Hitler and Mussolini and what are the beginning signs, et cetera, et cetera, and the way that they changed religion, the way that they first reached out and then crushed it one by one, I believe it's starting to happen.

GOLDBERG: Again there's a lot of that stuff in my book and I agree with you with a lot of this. You know, the whole idea of fascism, people say that fascism, you know, and liberalism don't have anything in common because fascism was totalitarian. Well, fascism was totalitarian but it wasn't totalitarian the way the communists were. The communists just flat out took over everything. The way the fascists do it was they basically coopted one institution after another. They said basically if you're willing to promote our values, our ideological agenda, support for our, you know, our ambitions, then you can stay a nominally independent fraternity, you can stay a nominally independent business, on your own university, so long as you agree with us on everything. And when you look at things like environmentalism, there really is that sense like, you know, I think we're having green week again right now.

GLENN: Yeah, we are.

GOLDBERG: On NBC.

GLENN: Yes, we are.

GOLDBERG: Imagine if a network had announced pro life week, you know, the screaming about it. But all the, you know, hoity-toity establishment liberals think it's just a wonderful effort of civic-minded consciousness raising when mainstream network, a huge corporation aligns itself with the agenda of the government and with a political movement and... anyway.

GLENN: So hang on. Can you hang on after the break?

GOLDBERG: Sure.

GLENN: Okay, hang on after the break. I want you to think about this. Did you in all of your research, did you ever see the points -- because this is what I've been looking for -- where the people should have known, could have turned the tide, could have stood up to it. What should they have done and are we approaching that point, you know, what can we do that actually makes a difference in our own personal lives. And we'll get that answer coming up from Jonah Goldberg next.

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GLENN: 888-727-BECK. Jonah Goldberg, the author of Liberal Fascism, a good friend of the program. So Jonah --

GOLDBERG: Terrific dancer.

GLENN: You've never taken me dancing. I don't know that.

GOLDBERG: You?

GLENN: Jonah, the question that I asked you before is in all of your research when you looked at, you know, fascism, Mussolini -- and everybody thinks, oh, people here didn't love Mussolini. Yeah, they did. The liberal establishment here, the New York Times and Time magazine and FDR, everybody loved Mussolini. They thought he was great.

GOLDBERG: That's right. That's right.

GLENN: So when you saw all of this, did you get a chance to look at those movements, at the beginnings of them and was there a point, was there a tipping point to where the people were like, "Oh, crap, now it's too late."

GOLDBERG: Well, yeah. I mean, you know, as you know, there are different fascisms and they have a lot to do with the national character of where they come out and so in Germany it was just much more violent and dangerous and so historically the tipping point is the night of the long knives when Hitler basically kills his rivals in the movement. But again those sorts of tipping points, you know, they are already tipping points after the tipping point in a lot of ways. In Germany it was really, it was World War I that basically put the country on a path towards Naziism and I mean, there are lots of moments where if you were a time traveler and you went back, you would say, oh, if we had only killed Hitler after the Beer Hall Putsch, you would stop things, that kind of factual stuff. But I think in the American context the thing to keep in mind is that you are absolutely right: Among the intellectual classes there was an overwhelming consensus for something like fascism in the United States. You know, differences about doctrine or how it implemented and all the rest. But there was almost a universal yearning to restore Woodrow Wilson's war socialism, to have something like fascism here and the greatest work against it was the deeply embedded cultural love of freedom and democracy in this country, and I think if we're going to fight, whether you are right or I'm right about how bad it can get, the remedies are the same. You know, the remedy is fight tooth and nail on the principles of free speech. Don't make it about defending Rush Limbaugh or Glenn Beck. You know, don't make it about protecting conservative talk radio. Make it about protecting free speech. On the union stuff with card check, you know, it's not about keeping unions from getting more powerful or rewarding the Democratic party with labor and all that kind of stuff. It is about protecting the secret ballot. These are the institutions that the founding fathers had in mind from the beginning to protect us, and it's an important thing to keep in mind. When Barack Obama talks about unity, you know, how we need to have unity and hope and hopeful unity and hopeful unified hopefulness or whatever the hell he's talking about, unity can be wonderful. Unity can be a fantastic thing. It can be profound of evils. Rape gangs are unified, the mob is unified. In our political culture the hero is the individual who stands up to the mob an says you will not hang this man today. The founding fathers, you read the Federalist Papers, federalist 10, federalist 51, it's all about the importance of preventing unity. That's why we have divided government, three branches of government each vying for control over the other, we have a Bill of Rights, we have separation of powers, you know, we have 50 state governments, each of them divided up and it's all to protect against the dangers of majoritarian faction brimming with a sense of unity that gets to destroy the rights of the minority. And conservatives are uniquely positioned because we actually care about the Constitution in a way that the left doesn't. The left, when they say they care about the Constitution, what they really mean is they care about doing good and so they invoke the Constitution when it helps them and they call for a living or new constitution whenever it gets in their way. We actually care what the actual Constitution says and for conservatives in particular, what we need to simply do is stand by these principles and point out to the opposition that simply because something seems good doesn't mean that we should be violating the Constitution or violating the American tradition of letting liberty and democracy and republic, small R republicanism, that we shouldn't violate these things simply because we've gotten caught up in some fad. Because that's what fascism was and always is. It's a fad. It's one of these things where people get a fire in their mind, they get all excited, they get imbued with that same spirit that when we were teenagers we said, if we all work our hardest, we can make this our best yearbook ever.

GLENN: Jonah Goldberg, name of the book is Liberal Fascism. Always good to talk to you, Jonah. We'll talk again.

GOLDBERG: Thanks, Glenn.

Early Monday morning, Amazon Web Services removed social networking platform Parler from its cloud servers. This comes just after Apple and Google removed the Parler app from their app stores over the weekend.

"You can't find them on the internet anymore. They're gone," Glenn Beck said on his radio program Monday.

"This is something I warned you of four years ago ... because a profound technological change is coming," he continued. "I told you, at the time, high tech will need the government, and the government will need high tech. And they will work together to preserve their power and their position. This is what's happening, today."

Glenn said he believes the "far left" has been talking about breaking up companies like Parler for years, and that the Capitol riots provided the opportunity they needed.

"This is not the end of this. This is where the Left is starting," he warned. "Those who persist in standing for freedom of speech, freedom of expression, freedom to assemble, freedom to keep and bear arms, those people will be targeted for deletion. You will be hounded, boycotted, fired, ostracized, and de-platformed. And the louder and the more significant and effective your voice is, the bigger the target is on your back.

"But, let me say this: I will never stop standing for freedom of speech, freedom of expression, freedom to assemble, freedom to keep and bear arms, and all of the rest of the Bill of Rights. That is the American thing to do."

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Glenn Beck: This is the REAL Raphael Warnock and our new 'national religion'

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Multiple news outlets have called one of Georgia's Senate runoff elections for the Rev. Raphael Warnock, the Democrat who defeated Republican incumbent Sen. Kelly Loeffler.

So, on the radio show Wednesday, Glenn Beck looked into what this "radical preacher" has been saying in the past — and what he'll likely bring to the U.S. Senate in the future.

"Warnock is in one of the most influential and powerful stages of the country. And I use the word 'stage' intentionally," Glenn said. "It's the pulpit. He's the guy who says, if you voted for Donald Trump, well, you're a sinner."

Glenn introduced a video clip in which Warnock asserts:

If it is true that a man who has dominated the news and poisoned the discussion for months needs to repent, then it is doubly true that a nation that can produce such a man and make his vitriol go viral, needs to repent. I know, no matter what happens next month, more than a third of the nation that would go along with this, has reason to be afraid. America needs to repent for its worship of whiteness!

"So, (according to Warnock) you should be afraid," Glenn said. "Oh, and whiteness is evil. And, somehow or another, America has been worshiping whiteness ... see, critical race theory is now our new national religion."

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Nancy Pelosi and her growing ensemble of radical leftists are making sure that 2021 will be just as terrible as 2020 — terrible, and forcefully gender-neutral. The 117th Congress convened on Sunday, and on Monday, they shifted the goalposts by approving a 45-pages rules package, "H. Res 7," in a 217 to 206 vote. The Rules Package is the brainchild of Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Rules Committee Chairman James McGovern (D-MA).

Yesterday, in a speech to the House, Republican Rep. Tom Cole described the proposals as "some of the harshest and most cynical that I've experienced during my time in Congress." Congressman Steve Scalise accurately called it a "Soviet-Style rules package. ... designed to take away the voice of 48% of this chamber."

Some of the many wild rule changes include a continuation of proxy voting during the coronavirus pandemic, a ban on lawmakers convicted of certain crimes from visiting the House floor, and of course what would Democrats be without their hatred for Donald Trump? With the rule changes, they've found a way to attack Trump even after he's left office. They've added provisions that allow them to send subpoenas to former Presidents, former VPs, and former White House staff long after their administration has left the White House.

They've added provisions that allow them to send subpoenas to former Presidents, former VPs, and former White House...

Pelosi called the plan a "visionary rules package" which "reflects the values of her diverse Democratic majority," framing the proposal as a departure from ignorance, with that elitist under-handed way of condescending to non-woke Americans. She called them "future-focused proposals," as if conservatives and Republicans aren't worried about the future. Democrats honestly believe this. Believe that we pray to God for the destruction of the future, whatever it means. Although, Democrats are certainly not the authority on prayer: They can't even say one without jamming it full of woke inanity. And "inanity" is the word for it. Because the Democrats have devolved into utter nonsense.

In the news cycle, stories get buried. It feels like we're all constantly putting out fires. Politicians love this: Just about every controversy vanishes quickly. Shady legislation goes unnoticed. The mainstream media isn't going to report on this, not with any semblance of honesty or critical thought. As always, they're more interested in attacking Donald Trump. So it's up to us to ask, "Wait a minute, you're doing what now?"

You may be thinking, "How do the rules for the House of Representatives affect me?" Because you can tell a lot about a person by the way they run their house, or in this case their workplace. If this is how they want to conduct their workplace, I'm terrified to see how they'll run the country. Because, even though it will require ethical breaches and severe overreach, that's exactly what they're about to do, including a rule that keeps the House Minority from amending legislation on the floor.

In true leftist fashion, Democrats have projected their own injustices on Republicans. Like how the bill refers to the new rules as "sweeping ethics reforms," the implication being that there were ethical violations that demanded reforming.

Yesterday, House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy said it best, delivered a scathing rebuke of House Democrats. I recommend watching the whole thing. In particular, he took umbrage with the way the rules violate our freedom of speech, the most important right that we have as Americans.

He's right: This hatred for free speech began in academia. Specifically, from the Marxist radicals who promote and adhere to Critical Theory. We conservatives have spent so much time on Critical Race Theory, but we're missing the bigger picture. Critical Race Theory is just a wart on the looming monster known as Critical Theory. If you think the riots were bad, if you thought sports had become overrun by woke politics, if you thought colleges were bad already — you better get ready for the ideological tidal wave, because it's so about to be much worse. The whole thing is Critical Theory gone wild. I'll tell you why in a moment. First, let's look through the details.

Gender

The resolution aims to "make this House of Representatives the most inclusive in history," and opens by formally establishing the Office of Diversity and Inclusion. An entire department within the lower house of Congress devoted to bringing Critical Theory to life."Inclusion and diversity," two concepts entrenched in Critical Theory inanity. The left would call them "dog whistles," seemingly innocuous words that signal something evil. Apparently, inclusion and diversity are the reason House Democrats felt the need to change the name of the Office of the Whistleblower Ombudsman, "to the gender-neutral Office of the Whistleblower Ombuds."

Then they really lose it in subsection e: "Gender-Inclusive Language." This section "modernizes the use of pronouns, familial relationship terminology, and other references to gender in order to be inclusive of all members, delegates, resident commissioners, employees of the House, and their families."

In other words, the standing rules will now be gender-inclusive. ''Seamen'' will now be ''seafarers." ''Chairman'' is ''Chair." And one clause of House rules removed the terms father, mother, son, daughter, brother, sister, uncle, aunt, first cousin, nephew, niece, husband, wife, father-in-law, mother-in-law, son-in-law, daughter-in-law, brother-in-law, sister-in-law, stepfather, stepmother, stepson, stepdaughter, stepbrother" — you get the idea.

The new rules also require "standing committees to include in their oversight plans a discussion of how committee work over the forthcoming Congress will address issues of inequities on the basis of race, color, ethnicity, religion, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, disability, age, or national origin; honor all gender identities by changing pronouns and familial relationships in the House rules to be gender-neutral."

Free Speech

One of the most egregious parts of the rules changes is the way they'll compromise free speech. Democrats want to protect free speech only if it's something they agree with. They've taken this to villainous extremes.

Deep Fake Media

●The Democrat rules package also made it an ethics violation for members to knowingly distribute "deep fake" media.

●The wording is vague, and could easily encompass conservative media. What do they mean by fake media? Memes? Articles? Jokes? Op-eds? "regulations addressing the dissemination by electronic means of any image, video, or audio file that has been distorted or manipulated with the intent to mislead the public.

●It applies not only to Representatives' official accounts but also to their personal accounts, a clear violation of free speech. "They would penalize any member who shares news or views that liberals and their allies in the media deem 'fake.' They actually make it an ethics violation, which is usually reserved for such unbecoming conduct as bribery and corruption."

Pay As You Go (PayGo) Exemptions

●The new rules also weaken PayGo, a budgetary-control measure that limits "Tax and Spend" policies and requires Congress to offset spending on bills that would increase the deficit.

●They are the payment rules on legislation related to the virus and climate change that previously required lawmakers to identify new revenue sources or spending cuts to fund their priorities.

●Democrats will now be able to force through any legislation regardless of the cost, and for legislation like the Green New Deal. Yet AOC actually had a problem with this caveat, but of course, her reason for opposing it is as asinine as you'd expect.

The Motion to Recommit (MTR)

Congress is a majoritarian institution. They govern themselves, as long as it doesn't violate the Constitution. Since Democrats regained the majority two years ago, they have treaded that line and I would say that they've been downright unconstitutional. For those entire two years, they boasted that in 2020 they'd sweep Congress, all of it, but especially The House of Representatives. They were wrong, and now they have the slimmest majority in years. And I'm positive that their hubris is largely responsible.

They were wrong, and now they have the slimmest majority in years.

Since the creation of the modern party system shortly before the Civil War, there have been 18 House majority changes, with Democrats in power the most.

●The motion to recommit provides one final opportunity for the House to debate and amend a measure, typically after the engrossment and third reading of the bill, before the Speaker orders the vote on final passage. ... The motion does not delay or kill the bill. MTR gives the Minority, and by extension their constituents, a voice by denying them the chance to debate a bill on the floor.

●It's been around since the House was founded, and in its present form since 1909. In 1919, Rep. Abraham Garrett said that "The Motion to Recommit is regarded as so sacred, it's one of the few rules protected against the Committee on Rules by the General Rules of the House."

●When Pelosi was in the Minority, she described the MTR as grounded in the Free Speech guaranteed by our constitution. Anytime the Republicans had the majority, they never even considered cutting off MTR.

Democrats shifted the goalposts by redefining words, by degrading the current meanings, and by trying to convince us that we are fundamentally immoral. It's textbook Critical Theory: attack our sense of reality, our understanding of knowledge, our guiding beliefs, and, now, our most fundamental rights.

We've entered the era of Critical Theory. Wokeness is the new law.

Literally.

The time for metaphors is over; the House of Representatives just instituted wokeness into policy. They're still not saying the quiet part aloud. Critical Theory allows for this. Saddle up to the new normal. The new authoritarianism. Just like how nobody took 20 seconds to hop on Wikipedia and check the etymology of "amen", none of the Democrats have really thought out their plan.

Article I, Section 8 of The Constitution delineates the powers granted to the Congress, one of which is "to provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the Union, suppress insurrections and repel Invasions."

Well, lately, America has been overrun by insurrections and invasions and Congress can't do much about it because they're in on the insurrection. Significant factions within the legislative branch have encouraged these insurrections, they have validated the invasive radicals who threaten to destroy our country. And they've done it under the auspices of furtherance. Of being progressive. Of not being racist, or transphobic, or whatever insult is trendy on woke Twitter.

The time for metaphors is over; the House of Representatives just instituted wokeness into policy.

They're saying, "surrender some of your rights, some of your luxuries, some of your privileges — you have so many, you don't deserve them — and you'll make the world a smidge better." It's the kind of ideology that shreds through people like they're nothing and it is swallowing America whole. Once they change the rules and they change the words, you're living a real-life version of Orwell's 1984. What we need in a moment like this are strong people willing to face the wrath of a Leftist establishment that is all too happy to watch the world burn.

McCarthy talked about how people were feeling this indignation. Well, Kevin, I want you to know, it's not just you. I feel it. I think more than 70 million Americans feel it.


WATCH HIS FULL SPEECH HERE:

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It's not going away any time soon.

And today, I ask that you just prepare mentally, for a rough road ahead. But one that we win in, in the end. And I can say it with confidence because I know the truth, will always set people free.

The truth will always prevail.


Glenn Beck's advice to 'Stop the Steal' rallygoers: DON'T engage with Antifa

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On the radio show Tuesday, Glenn Beck shared a piece of important advice for any conservatives gathering in Washington, D.C., this week to attend the "Stop the Steal" rally or other protests in support of President Donald Trump.

Glenn warned protesters not to engage with Antifa or anyone else shouting at or harassing you. They are trying to get you to engage, which will then discredit everything you came to support.

They're not there reason with you. They're there to provoke you and they're well trained to do so. Don't let them. Don't engage with them. Channel your inner Martin Luther King Jr. and just keep marching — or you'll be the only thing the media will show and delegitimatize the entire movement.

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