|Glenn Beck talks to the wives of Compean and Ramos on Fox News, January 19th, 2009. Watch Glenn Beck every weeknight on Fox News at 5pm ET.|
GLENN: The two border agents, Compean and Ramos, were commuted. Last night President Bush commuted their sentences. They will be going home March I think 16th. I spend the day yesterday with Patty and Monica, their wives, and it was an amazing emotional day for them and many Americans who have been following this story. They are with me on the phone now. Hello, Patty and Monica.
GLENN: How are you?
CALLER: Good, great.
GLENN: What an amazing day we had yesterday.
GLENN: You guys fly into Manhattan to be on the show where we were going to make one last plea to the president, and he pardons your husbands yesterday about 1:00 in the afternoon. You didn't even know. Somebody from my staff actually called -- Virginia from my staff called and I think talked to you, Patty, right?
CALLER: Right, she did.
GLENN: And told you the news. Have you guys talked to your husbands?
CALLER: Yes, I have. I have spoken with my husband and actually he should be listening right now. He listens to your show religiously. And I can tell you right now he heard it over one of the radio stations there as they were announcing it. However, he had to kind of do a double-take not really knowing if what he heard was correct and not believing it. So he waited again after a commercial. The deejay came back and said, you know, we have some breaking news, and he announced it again. And it was when my husband said he just, he was overwhelmed with such a feeling that his immediate reaction was he dropped to his knees and started praying. And it was very emotional for him.
GLENN: I have to tell you, guys, I really didn't think Bush was going to do this. I thought our best hope was for President Obama to do this, and I was really mentally gearing for, "Okay, let's go after President Obama and see if he'll try to make up some ground here with the right" and then George Bush does this. Which, have you thought, have either of you thought last night that's all about how you feel about President Bush? Has it changed since before you heard this news?
CALLER: President Bush, you know what, I just, all I am with him is grateful and just that's it. It's just very grateful and appreciative for him doing this. Even if it was at the eleventh hour, as they say. It's just, I think I will be grateful for him, to him for the rest of my life.
GLENN: We're talking to the wives of Nacio Ramos and Jose Compean, and they were -- their sentences were commuted last night, which means, if I can paraphrase what President Bush said in his statement yesterday, they will still have to live with the shame of breaking the law and dishonoring, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, which we happen to disagree on this. Do you guys feel that you will -- the guys will want to pursue cleaning up their name, or do you think you are all just pretty good at just walking away and saying, "All right, whatever"?
CALLER: Well, actually, you know, with the President saying that, you know, first of all let me just say that I am extremely grateful to the president. You know, we didn't expect it as well. So it was a decision that really probably weighed heavy on him, and we're extremely grateful. However, with that being said, you know, we are still fighting this. This is I guess the glory of having the commutation in a sense is that we will get to fight this still and continue to fight it in the United States supreme courts. If not, we have other avenues to pursue this. And yes, these men will continue to fight. I know on behalf of my husband I will say we will continue to fight to clean his name. The charges that still stands were those of, you know, the assault and the weapon charge, but we have to remember now with Davila pleading guilty, he's actually now come forward as, it just shows that he perjured himself in trial. And so there is a lot of avenues still not -- that was not, you know, taken that we will continue to take, to pursue, clear his name.
CALLER: That's guys were just doing their job -- I'm sorry, Glenn. These guys were just doing their job that day and because of that it's not over. This is just another -- this is a beginning of another chapter in this fight.
GLENN: You know, I have to tell you, I was thinking about it last night and I was thinking that this story bothered me from the beginning. At the very first I was on this story and I said, this is an outrage. Look at these, look at what is happening. And then I immediately backed off because I started getting word from very credible sources, "No, no, no, no." All of the things that the Senate had received, all of the things that the House had received that, "No, you don't know the whole story." All the things that Johnny Sutton had said. And I backed off this story, and I never said I wasn't for the guys but I was invisible on it and did it because something just didn't feel right. And it took me I think about three months of sitting with it and looking at it and doing some more homework before I realized, "Oh, my gosh." I mean, this story changed my point of view of the government in many ways. This story changed my point of view of what was even possible in America and our government, and do you feel how torn the country has been on both sides when they haven't examined it? They might think that you guys are, you know, your husbands are guilty but then as they start to examine it, did you ever want to shake America and just say, "No, please don't listen to the official story. Look for yourself and open your eyes."
CALLER: You know, it's funny that you say that because at home in El Paso, we're still hearing, yeah, they are saying, they've been commuted but, you know, they still committed a crime. You know, they keep on holding onto that, and that's a little frustrating for both of our families and people who actually know all the facts. A lot of people are just basing opinions -- because that's what it is. It's an opinion of this case on different pieces that they get, they get from the media. And yeah, it's a little frustrating but as long as we know the truth and we're fighting to clear their names, I think, you know, thank you very much for your opinion and move on, not let it affect our lives, I think.
GLENN: This audience, as well as many other groups of people all around the country, they have been praying, they have been financially supportive, they have written, they have called, they have done so much for such a long period of time. I'm sure there's something that I don't even know if you can verbalize. Do you want to say anything to the people who are listening now, who have been with you the whole time?
CALLER: I would just like to send my heartfelt appreciation, much gratitude for everybody including you, Glenn, who have completely supported us in this, who actually took the time to look into this case, see that there was an injustice here, you know, for never giving up on us. It's because everybody who has helped us and written those letters. I don't know that it would have gotten to this point without their help, and on behalf of my husband and I, we would just love to say thank you for everything you've done and I hope that you-all will continue on this journey with us because it is far from over. It's like Compean said, it's just the beginning of a new chapter.
CALLER: And then I would like to thank on behalf of my family and my husband, also, just, it's been a ride and, you know, this is the beginning of another one, like I said and, you know, just thank you. We would not have gotten this far without everybody's love and support. And, you know, the cards, they talk about our husbands being heroes. Well, in our guys you guys are our heroes because you guys decided, chose to be our voices and stand up for us and were so passionate about it and still are. You guys spoke when we couldn't and we're just completely grateful and for having the courage and just putting your integrity and your names out there, you know, on the line for us. You know, it's just been wonderful. Just thank you so much.
GLENN: Patty and Monica, I so appreciate you two and the way you've kept your family together and you fought with your men on this valiantly the whole time. And Monica, you know that -- I mean, you know how hard it was for us to get in to see both of your husbands. I mean, I think I was with you in Texas when we were going through this and, you know, they made it impossible for me to go and sit with them. So they wouldn't allow me to have a camera, they wouldn't allow me to have a tape recorder. I could come in with a pencil and paper. We can have Charlie Manson, but we couldn't have your husbands on television or radio. I hope we get the opportunity to talk to them when they get out and we would love to be there not in the personal side of it for, you know, you need your family time, but I hope we can show America your family finally being reunited when your men finally come home.
CALLER: Yes. Well, you will definitely be first.
GLENN: When you told the kids yesterday, because you weren't there, what was that phone call like?
CALLER: Actually I haven't told my two boys yet. I've told the family to hold off until I get home and actually be able to talk to the two little ones. My daughter, I didn't get a chance to tell her. My brother-in-law beat me to it. But when I did finally get to talk to her, she was very excited, very happy right now. I mean, it's a miracle for my children when my little one called me right away and said, is it true? Is Dad coming home? And I said, yes. And he says, today? And I said, no, baby, not today. As far as my 11-year-old, he's the one that fought on TV and he's not said much. He's the one that we're really worried about. This has really extremely affected him. He was pretty much connected to the hip with my husband. I think seeing is believing. When we cross that, he will really truly believe Dad's home.
GLENN: Well, anything we can do to help your son realize that what has been said about your husband in the media in his dad was not true, and your husband has been a remarkable servant of this country. Anything we can do to help your son understand that, you let us know.
CALLER: Thank you. I appreciate that.
GLENN: We love you very much, and congratulations to the whole family.
CALLER: Thank you.
GLENN: Thanks, guys.