Glenn Beck: Obama more like Wilson than Lincoln


Liberal Fascism by Jonah Goldberg

GOLDBERG: Hey, Glenn, it's great to be here.

GLENN: Are you in New York?

GOLDBERG: I am indeed.

GLENN: So you are on set with me tonight?

GOLDBERG: That is the plan.

GLENN: I want to talk to you a little bit and have kind of a conversation that I don't think that they've had over on Fox and I know it made them very uncomfortable over at CNN and that is the progressive movement and the links to fascism.

GOLDBERG: Right.

GLENN: Are you -- Jonah, when we first -- when you wrote the book Liberal Fascism, I don't think that you were necessarily saying, "Oh, look, fascism is coming our way." But you were saying fascism with a happy face in a lot of different ways. But as I took your book as a springboard and started to dive into history, what the parallels that I see between FDR and Woodrow Wilson who I said yesterday was an SOB, I hate that guy.

GOLDBERG: Oh, yeah.

GLENN: When you really start to -- you'll see the parallels of what's happening now and it isn't good.

GOLDBERG: No, look. The basic point about -- my basic point about the progressives in the book is that progressivism was a deeply kindred movement to the various ideologies that were spreading through Europe. They had the same thinkers, the same heroes, the philosophical father of progressivism in America was William James. Mussolini considered Williams James one of the three most important philosophers in his life. They borrowed ideas from one another. There was a huge cross-pollenization between Europe and America during the progressive period and if you get rid of the labels, today we use the word "Progressive" to mean the opposite of fascist. Progressive just means good the way fascist just means bad. And so "Oh, it's a progressive coffee shop; it must have good coffee. Ooh, it's progressive music, you've got to listen to the words." All it means is good. And if you get rid of the labels and you look at what the progressives actually believed and what fascists actually believed, they are pretty much the same thing. The fascist were racist, imperialist, eugenicist, to totalitarians that believed the government should get into every nook and cranny of our lives, same thing with the fascists. And what I don't say that today, you know, progressivism is Hitlerism. You know, Hitler was different than Mussolini. Germany was different than Italy. These ideas are much more broad than the cartoon characters we get from Hollywood, but what I do say is that the fundamental assumptions inherent to progressivism were fascistic, they had deep ties with fascism, they endure through today, and the assumptions about the role of government, the role of society and the relationship between the two that the progressives held and the progressives, self-described progressives hold today and those of fascists are eerily similar and not by accident and that we should -- you know, it takes no courage. We've been trained in this culture to say anything we don't like is fascist. Every time the left see s someone in the military uniform, you know, they wet their pants and cry fascist, and that is easy. What takes real courage to point to the things enthusiasm consider good, progressive, healthy, you know, forward-thinking and say, "My God, what could this lead to." And when you look around, when you look around the country today and the intellectual leap today and you look at the ideas being promulgated on everything from environmentalism to, you know, education all the way down that are being touted as these progressive reforms, they involve expanding the scope and size of government and getting everybody on the same ideological page in a way that is eerily similar to the 1920s and 1930s in Europe, including obviously what you talk about a lot on the economy. You know, the government and business are now getting in bed together in a way not seen since the 1930s, and everyone has to be on the same page, everyone has to agree Barack Obama's sort of rhetorical approach to politics. You know, he had a press conference last week where he said, I'm open to solutions from either side of the ideological spectrum, conservatives, Democrats, Republicans. But we do know one thing, only government can get us out of this. And what he's doing is basically pre-empting anybody who disagrees, anybody who champions free market or freedom from the conversation. And I think that is a very similar thing to what FDR did.

GLENN: Well, here's the scary thing that I -- I mean, I'm reading The Road to Serfdom. Have you read that?

GOLDBERG: Oh, sure.

GLENN: I'm reading the Road to Serfdom and in it he says -- sometimes things just stick out at me, and this stuck out, and that is fascism does not come from capitalism. Capitalism does not give birth to fascism. Capitalism can give birth to socialism which gives way to communism or fascism. You need to have this big controlling government and all of the governmental controls in there and then have it fail for someone -- exactly what happened with Putin. Communism failed. So then it went and it looked like it was going to go into chaos and that's when the strong leader comes forward, when the people are afraid, and they say, "I will solve the problem for you."

GOLDBERG: That's right. And Hayek talks at great length about these experts, this idea that if we just get the smartest people in government, they will know how to run everything and that has been -- that is still the even during liberal conceit, that it just takes the smart guys in government, in power and they can plan everything.

GLENN: Which is exactly why I have been saying you can't -- because again with the treasury secretary, what are they saying? "He's the smartest guy. He's the only guy with an answer. He's the one who can get us out of this." It doesn't matter what his morals are. It doesn't matter what his ethics are. He's the smartest guy in the room. And I've been saying, stop going for the smartest guy in the room if you don't trust him ethically. You can't do that. And this is exactly what the progressives have done in the past and what they seem to be doing now.

How many times are we going to listen to these experts on the economy when they have gotten it wrong every step of the way? How long are we going to listen to the experts, the people who know more than we do in Washington who have designed this system and it's failing?

GOLDBERG: That's right. I think, you know, the fundamental -- well, one of the fundamental insights we get from Hayek, this fatal conceit, the title of one of his great books, this idea that if you just have the smartest guys in the room that you can manage an incredibly diverse, complicated society with just -- by looking through your green eye shades. And this drove me crazy during the campaign. You know, there was all this obsession about Barack Obama's plan versus John McCain's plan, all this kind of stuff. Look, I have one child. She's 5 years old. She can't read. She has no money. I am literally the boss of her. I have a plan every weekend about what we're going to do together, and she foils me every time. And yet we're supposed to believe that someone is going to have a plan to come in to run one of our thousands of governments in this country. You know, we have state and local and various other governments. We have three branches of government. So we're going to have one guy, the president, who runs one of the branches of our federal government is somehow going to have a plan that is going to accommodate how a construction company in rural -- in suburban Cleveland is going to operate, how a hospital in Los Angeles is going to operate, how a soup kitchen in New York is going to operate. The reality is that you have to leave these sorts of decisions up to the people who know what is going on right in front of their nose.

GLENN: But Jonah, every time it doesn't work. The answer is always because -- exactly what leads you from socialism or communism to fascism. There just wasn't enough control.

GOLDBERG: That's right.

GLENN: They just have to have more control.

GOLDBERG: The logic, if I can just get a little more, I'll be so happy. If I get a little more control, then all of a sudden everything will click into place.

Glenn Beck: One TERRIFYING thing is clear no matter who caused the Nord Stream pipeline leaks

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Evidence strongly suggests that the Nord Stream pipeline leaks were the result of sabotage, and U.S. and European officials have been working to discover who could be behind the explosions that damaged the natural gas pipelines running from Russia to Germany under the Baltic Sea.

Was it Russia? Ukraine? Germany? But no matter who carried this out, it has put the entire world in grave danger, because if this is indeed an attack, it means that non-military key infrastructure outside Ukraine is now on the "target menu," warned Glenn Beck on the radio program.

"It is so important for you to understand, this is now a non-military key infrastructure that has been destroyed," Glenn explained. "If Russia thinks we did it, they've already said, 'Nukes are now on the table.' That gives us a green light to use nukes," he added.

"This is non-military key infrastructure outside of the borders of Ukraine. To date, as far as we know, combat targets were either in Ukraine, or were military targets hit inside of Russia by Ukrainian Air Force or special forces. But the target menu now includes key civilian infrastructure: electricity, water utilities, energy production. That makes Russia more dangerous than ever. And that would be true no matter who carried out the attack," Glenn stated.

Now, the Russians are saying the Unted States did it, and the U.S. is saying it was Russia. But no matter who carried out the attack, "We are facing a Cuban Missile Crisis," said Glenn.

"This could end up being the biggest story of our lifetime and ... if it isn't played calmly by every side, this could be World War III," he continued. "Russia has already said that this gives them the right to use nuclear weapons as soon as they find out for sure who did it. That would be catastrophic, absolutely catastrophic."

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The White House can try to spin inflation all day long (and it's trying very hard). But you feel the effects of President Joe Biden’s disastrous leadership every time you go to the grocery store or fill up your car. The American economy is on the brink of disaster after less than two years of a Democrat-controlled Congress and White House. And they’ve got plenty more destruction in the works.

The bottom line is they WANT you to get used to a lower living standard. So, what do you do? How do you prepare? What will food and fuel cost in the months ahead? What would the next Great Depression look like? How are you going to feel the effects of ESG and the Left’s war on oil?

On Wednesday night's "Glenn TV," Glenn Beck brings in a panel of economic experts to answer those questions. He’s joined by Carol Roth, former Wall Street investment banker and author of “The War on Small Business,” and Jim Iuorio, a small business owner, stockbroker, and managing director of TJM Institutional Services. While both forecast the worst-case scenario for average Americans, they also offer a glimmer of hope to get us out of this mess.

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The FBI recently sent more than a dozen armed agents to the home of well-known pro-life activist Mark Houck to arrest him for allegedly violating the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances or FACE Act. Now the father of seven faces up to 11 years in prison over claims that he blocked a man from entering an abortion clinic and shoved him when he wouldn't stop verbally harassing Mark's 12-year-old son. Now, if that doesn't sound insane enough, this all happened after local authorities dropped the case. So, what's the full story here?

Attorney Peter Breen joined Glenn Beck on the radio program Tuesday to tell the family's side of the story, including how the case was already "won" three years ago, and how, after receiving a target letter from the United States Attorney's Office for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania, Mark's legal team agreed to cooperate fully, only to hear nothing back until the day the FBI showed up on Mark's doorstep.

Breen also explained how the FBI has tried to downplay "abuse of power" claims, accusing Mark's wife of making "inaccurate claims" about the terrifying experience.

"Ryan-Marie, who is Mark's wife, she thought she saw 25 [FBI agents.] The FBI came back and said it wasn't 25, it was no more than 15 or 20 heavily armed federal agents. And she had called them a 'SWAT team' because she's a lay person. I don't know the difference between a SWAT team and a bunch of heavily armed, armored, and shield-bearing federal agents," Breen said.

According to Fox News, a senior FBI source said:

There may have been 15-20 agents at the scene, but denied 25 were there. The agents who came to the door had guns out and at the ready, according to this FBI source, but the guns were never pointed at Houck or his family and were lowered or holstered as soon as Houck was taken into custody. Houck was handcuffed with a belly chain.

"So, yeah, they had guns drawn and pointed at Mark in front of his wife and their children. And that whole show of force was done against a man who was not a drug lord, not a mafia boss, but instead, a law-abiding pillar of the community whose attorney said, 'we'll bring him in if you decide to charge, even though you have no case.'"

Breen went on to assert that he believes Congress "needs to" hold Attorney General Merrick Garland accountable for the arrest. "I can't imagine that those 20 federal agents were excited about being called out to a peaceful man's home, guns drawn," he said.

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Gavin McInnes broke the internet last month when his live show was interrupted, and it appeared that he was arrested. He broke the internet again a few weeks later when he admitted that the arrest was staged as part of what was intended to be an elaborate prank.

McInnes joined Glenn Beck on "Glenn TV" to explain the real reason behind his disastrous prank.

"This was a $10,000 joke. I lost 100 subscribers because of it, but I was going away to Paris for a week because my daughter is going to college and I thought let's make it interesting," McInnes said of his decision to fake an on-air arrest in the middle of his live "Get Off My Lawn" podcast on August 25.

"There was a method to the madness, with the prank ... my point was, first of all, this is happening to people in real-time. Tim Poole has been swatted a million times," he explained to Glenn. "The thought police are in full effect. I also wanted to lampoon the media's bloodlust for us suffering."

Glenn played a clip of the now-infamous hoax while McInnes explained what was really going on behind the scenes, including how his very drunk friend "Unrelia-Bill" was supposed to act the part of the arresting officer but ended up being much too intoxicated (at "2 pm") to speak even a few lines, and how smugly gleeful the "far left" was when they thought McInnes had actually been arrested.

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