Glenn Beck: Spies Among Us


Spies Among Us

by Ira Winkler

GLENN: So last week we had an author of a fiction book called Daemon and it's actually, the author, this is his first novel. He self-published it. He's an Internet guy and he's been reading the warnings of, you know, cyber attacks and everything else and he's like, the government just doesn't even know how easy this is. And so he wrote this novel called Daemon, he self-published it and it became a big hit in the Internet world and now it is on the best seller list and it was released last week, et cetera, et cetera. We had him on. It was on Wednesday. And he said, "You have to pay attention to botnets," and he explained what they were and he showed how easy and how everybody's personal computer can be linked together and do really vicious things. And he said, it's only a matter of time before it comes.

Then last Friday this was in the New York Times. A new digital plague has hit the Internet affecting millions of business and personal computers in what seems to be the first step of a multistage attack. The world's leading computer security experts do not yet know who programmed the infection or what the next stage will be. Known as Conficker, it is spread by a recent discovered Microsoft Windows vulnerability guessing network passwords and by hand-carried consumer gadgets like USB keys. If you are looking for a digital Pearl Harbor, we have the Japanese ship steaming toward us on the horizon. In a separate story, cyber attack on U.S. banking system more dangerous than 9/11. A top U.S. intelligence official said that a cyber attack on U.S. banking systems could be several times more damaging to the country's economy than the twin tower attacks by September 11th, 2001. Instead of attacking the twin towers, Al-Qaeda had taken down a major bank, the economic cons! equences would have been an order of magnitude ten times greater than the economic consequences of 9/11. I don't say the personal physical damage of 9/11. The information that we create electronically.

All right. Ira Winkler is on the phone. He's the author of Spies Among Us, he is also an Internet security expert, to kind of explain what this is. As of Friday, Ira, they didn't know what this, quote, digital plague was. Do we have any idea what it is at this point?

WINKLER: Well, we've seen this again and again over the last probably at least over the last seven or so years. We've had different versions of worms since 1986 or so. So we've seen this again and again and again. This is just the latest version of it, you know, what it seems to be -- and again just judging by its actions and what it does, it seems to be a resurgence of the group called the Russian Business Network and a few other people who had botnets that were basically taken down a couple of months ago when a group of researchers got together with some ISPs and had them take the McColo Internet service provider off the line because McColo Internet service provider based out of San Diego ironically was hosting the botnet controllers for a variety of other systems and what happened was they were taken off the line, the controllers couldn't get at all the botnets and that left their networks down. So apparently what happened was researchers back! in October found a new computer vulnerability and what they did was they just decided to publish the hell out of it and tell everybody how to exploit it and now what's happened is these botnet herders went ahead, are exploiting that known vulnerability by creating this new worm which is now spreading itself from computer to computer to computer which I think is --

GLENN: Okay. If I'm not mistaken, the computer system that was taken down -- and a lot of this is way over my head -- that was taken down in San Diego, that was a for-profit, that was spam, right?

WINKLER: It was primarily spam but it was used for a lot of criminal purposes. They had things on -- you know, they had child pornography. Spams, everybody thinks they are just advertisements. They are not advertisements. They are criminal efforts to gather credit card numbers because there are people who are -- you know, people say naive. I would rather say stupid enough to think that you can get drugs for a penny a pill. And they give their credit card numbers to these things and they never get their pills and they are too stupid to admit it.

GLENN: Hold it. That's -- wait a minute. That was a scam? Okay, so Ira, you believe that -- because they are saying this is bigger than that other big worm that came out in 2003. I'm trying to remember. What was the name of that?

WINKLER: That was Melissa as one type of virus, there was --

GLENN: They are saying -- the point is they are saying that this is a huge one but you're not so sure?

WINKLER: Well, no, I know it's huge. I mean again, you know, different studies, anywhere from 6 to 13 to 20% of PCs are being infected by this. And this does give somebody massive computing power to do whatever they want with. So far we've only seen primarily profit motivation through these type of botnets because frankly, I mean, everybody gives all these credit to terrorists but they are not as smart as we would like -- as people like to think they are. Potentially they are done by nation states like the Russians, the Chinese or whatever, but they tend to be more covert, and it's the people with the profit motive, for example a lot of the former Eastern Bloc computer specialists go into computer crime because it's the easiest way to gather money from around the world.

GLENN: Okay. So Ira, what would it take -- I mean, could you go after a bank and what kind of debt -- could you -- if somebody wanted to take us down, could they go out and wipe all of the 1s and 0s out of the banks?

WINKLER: I frankly think not. I mean, it would have to be a very, very long-term effort. It's not going to happen with these botnets. You have to infiltrate the bank's computer systems, you have to do a wide variety of activities, and it's just not going to happen this way.

GLENN: So then what are we worried about with the botnets? Why are they saying -- I mean, I'm reading the stories over the weekend on this thing and they are all hair-raising. What is the worst thing these botnets could do then?

WINKLER: Theoretically the botnets can cause what I consider a lot of tactical damage. Now, there's a difference. Pearl Harbor was a strategic attack. It knocked out the entire U.S. military infrastructure in the Pacific, or a large portion of it. It takes six months to a year. In that case it took two years to rebuild this. In the case of these botnets, the reality is that the banks have lots of good backup systems and things like that, and you can knock their computers off the line.

GLENN: What about our grids? What about our grids?

WINKLER: The power grids again you can probably knock them off the line. There are ways of potentially causing -- I'm just laughing because I gave a presentation a while ago and had five federal agents show up at my house on how to take down the power grid.

GLENN: Okay, don't spread that information, Ira.

WINKLER: But, yeah, you can go ahead and create cases of damage, but that doesn't occur necessarily because of the botnets, which are good for creating what's known as denial of service attacks where you basically have a computer and you flood it with data.

GLENN: Right.

WINKLER: And that has the effect of like basically -- you know, if everybody yells at you at the same time, you can't hear the important stuff. That's what, you know, a denial of service attack is. In this case in order to knock -- you can do that and possibly have effects on the power grid for a week, maybe a month. That is going to be -- that is going to be again a tactical attack.

GLENN: All right.

WINKLER: It's not going to be a Pearl Harbor attack.

GLENN: Ira, thank you very much. We'll talk to you again. We have more and your phone calls coming up next. By the way, Ira Winkler, the name of the book is Spies Among Us.

This week on "The Glenn Beck Podcast," civil rights activist and Woodson Center founder Bob Woodson joined Glenn to call out the leftists in the "race grievance industry," like the Rev. Al Sharpton and Black Lives Matter, Inc., who, he says, are "profiting off the misery of their people."

Woodson lived through the appalling segregation laws of the last century and has a much different message about what it means to be "oppressed" than the so-called "anti-racist" activists today.

Woodson said he believes the real struggle for impoverished minority communities "is not racial." He argued that leftists "at the top" derive "moral authority" by claiming to represent "so called marginalized groups," while they prosper at the expense of those "at the bottom."

"There's nothing worse than self-flagellating guilty white people and rich, angry black people who profit off the misery of their people," Woodson said.

"I call what Sharpton and some of those are doing is worse than bigotry. It's treason. It's moral treason against their own people," he added. "The only time you hear from them is when a white police officer kills a black person, which happens maybe 20 or 21 times a year, but 6,000 blacks are killed each year by other blacks. So, in other words, their message is black lives only matter when taken by someone white, which means you are betraying the black community when you turn your back on 20 children that are slaughtered and you don't march in that community and demand that those killers be turned over to the police."

'The problem is not racial," Woodson asserted. "The problem is the challenge of upward mobility. Any time you generalize about a group of people, blacks, whites, Native American, and then you try to apply remedies, it always benefits those at the top at the expense of those at the bottom. ... It's a bait and switch game where you're using the demographics of the worst of these, to get resources that helps the best of these, or those who are prospering at the top. So, if I was the president, I would say an end to the race grievance business, that America should concentrate on the moral and spiritual free fall that is consuming people at the bottom."

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Following President Joe Biden's first joint address to Congress, Glenn Beck joined fellow BlazeTV host and author of the new book, "American Marxism," Mark Levin to expose what they called the "Liar-In-Chief's" radical plans for our country and to explain why the far Left's proposals and programs are really a "frontal attack" on our Constitution, our country, and our way of life.

"Substantively, this is a frontal attack on our Constitutional system of limited government. It is a frontal attack on our capitalist system. He's basically throwing out all the bromides for the radical left groups that now form the base of the modern Democrat Party. And I make the case that ... this is Marxist bullcrap in its broadest sense," Levin stated.

"Here we are, a country now where one man can get up in the middle of the night and make a list of everything he wants to do to the country," he added, speaking figuratively. "It's like an unreality where we're living in separate worlds ... the whole thing is a fraud."

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After months of delays and COVID-19 excuses, President Biden finally delivers his address to the joint session of Congress. It is a truly historic moment, as only a few hundred members of Congress received an invite. While some have compared this speech to JFK's moon landing challenge, it will likely be more like FDR's New Deal nightmare. Will Speaker Pelosi continue her tradition of ripping up the president's speech? Will VP Harris cackle to a quiet audience?

Glenn Beck teams up with fellow BlazeTV host Mark Levin, author of the new book "American Marxism," to take on the progressive plans that could completely transform our economy and our way of life. Steve Deace, BlazeTV host and author of "Faucian Bargain," joins to discuss why it's not enough for conservatives to just lament the dangerous Democrat agenda; we must activate against the woke infection of our institutions. Plus, a power panel to rival CNN talking heads: Stu Burguiere, BlazeTV host of "Stu Does America," and Jason Buttrill, head researcher and writer for Glenn Beck.

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The less-than-favorable reaction to Caitlyn Jenner's bid for governor of California as a Republican has shown that leftists and so-called "transgender rights activist" care more about political party than actual transgender rights. Despite the fact that if she wins, Jenner would be the first trans governor in our nation's history — and prove that Republicans aren't 'transphobic' — Leftist activists would rather back Gavin Newsom — a cisgender, white male.

"Make no mistake: we can't wait to elect a #trans governor of California. But @Caitlyn_Jenner spent years telling the #LGBTQ+ community to trust Donald Trump. We saw how that turned out. Now she wants us to trust her? Hard pass," tweeted Equality California, one of the state's largest LGBTQ-rights groups.

"With all due respect, @Caitlyn_Jenner, you are running as a Republican?! Republicans deny your existence and are trying to erase trans youth. HELL NO," tweeted leftist activist and actress Alyssa Milano.

"Well done Caitlyn Jenner, running for governor wins you the one medal you never got: stupidest mother***ker on earth. Running as a Trump Republican & entering a world that hates you," tweeted "Sons of Anarchy" star Ron Perlman.

In this clip from the "Glenn Beck Radio Program," Glenn and producer Stu Burguiere discussed the Left's hostile reaction to Jenner's candidacy for California governor and agreed that leftist trans activists are showing themselves to be more "leftists" than "trans activists."

"If Caitlyn Jenner did, let's say, run for governor and win as a Republican, wouldn't that go a long way to advance what [trans rights activists'] goal supposedly is? Like, if you really believe Republicans hate trans people and what you want is for society to have trans people accepted more broadly, what better way to accomplish that than having a Republican trans candidate?" Stu asked.

"Yeah, see, but you just said the key words: 'If you really believe.' They don't really believe anything. I don't think they even really believe that Republicans hate gay people. I don't think they actually believe that. That's just a slogan that's been drilled in their head," Glenn said. "It doesn't have anything to do with race or gender, or really anything else. It has everything to do with politics. That's it."

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