GLENN BECK PROGRAM
GLENN: John Coleman was pumping his gas last Friday in San Diego and he happens to be listening to this program and he hears me read a letter. It's one of the most honest, most frank, most shocking letters I have heard. It's from the guy who started the Weather Channel. He was moved. He said, wow. I mean, I read the whole letter. That's great. John Coleman is the guy who wrote the letter. He is the guy who started the Weather Channel and he's with us now. Hi, John, how are you?
COLEMAN: It's good to talk to you. It's great to be on your program. I, too, have made a quest for truth. After all, I've been a TV meteorologist for 55 years. So when I started hearing about this global warming thing, about seven, eight years ago, I decided I better really study up on this and understand what was going on so I could be expert for my viewers.
COLEMAN: And what I found was that there isn't any significant global warming going on. There isn't any significant connection between man's pollution and any global warming. The frenzy is totally manufactured. The global warming crisis is as phony as a $2 bill and it's time to put it to test.
GLENN: Are you -- I mean, I understand politicians. I even understand General Electric. While I'm disgusted by the lust for money and they are willing to embrace anything just for the lust of money, I've got to tell you, science and scientists are probably the worst on this. I mean, the whole --
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COLEMAN: Trust me, Glenn, the field of meteorology and climatology, the Earth sciences, the people who really should be putting this to the test have truly caved in on it. And that is shocking to me. Here are people who live by the truth and somehow they have let their personal and environmental agendas and political agendas get in the way of peer review which should have put a stop to this early on. It's back to itself now to where there's this huge cabal of scientists, environmentalists, politicians and business people who have created this -- and media people who have created this incredible global frenzy, 20,000 people went out and protest in Australia global warming over the weekend. This is incredible how out of control this has become.
GLENN: John, give me the reason. I mean, scientists should have learned from, I mean, science was locked into --
COLEMAN: Look, here's the deal. So you decide you are going to be a research scientist in meteorology and you spent 10 years on university campuses obtaining your degrees and getting your position. Now you do a study of climate shift and let's say that the results of your study is you find that man's pollution is having little impact on the climate and that the climate is not changing much. You've wasted your life because that study doesn't mean anything. It's not news. It's not earth-shattering. It doesn't cause any -- it's not a call to action. If you do a study, you've got to come up with dramatic results in order for your study to be noticed, to be published, to be quoted in the press in order to receive awards, in order to get research grants, more money and obtain a position at a higher institution.
GLENN: Well, are you saying that they are just --
COLEMAN: So these scientists, I'm afraid, let their career decisions influence the results of their -- it is very clear, it is very clear that the science and the basic cornerstone research study on global warming was manipulated. It was massaged. They did whatever they had to do to the numbers they had to come out with this famous hockey stick graph that showed temperatures suddenly escalating over the last 30 years. And that should have been stopped by peer review but instead the other scientists seemed to accept it because it helped them with their environmental and political agendas and it helped get the money flowing into their research grants. So this research and that research all flowed off of it and now we have this whole industry of global warming research funded by billions of dollars with thousands of scientists paying their mortgages, getting their awards, traveling to meetings and, you know, we're about to get the big IPCC final report in the next few weeks. They are all meeting starting today in Valencia, Spain, and it's just way out of control.
GLENN: Well, I know that they are talking now about Time magazine Man of the Year is probably going to be Al Gore.
COLEMAN: Al Gore, this is an amazing thing. A politician -- believe me, this global warming shouldn't be about politics, it shouldn't be about environmentalism. It's not about religion. That's something you believe in. It's science, the science of meteorology. Here's a politician who has gotten an Emmy, an Oscar and Nobel Prize.
GLENN: He also got a Grammy.
COLEMAN: And has made an incredible fortune, by the way, by global warming.
GLENN: I put a chart in my book on the chapter on global warming that I find absolutely amazing and I'm not a scientist but when you look into the other things that could be causing the Earth to go up in temperature other than just, you know, this is the way it works, you look at the solar activity and you compare that with the temperature rise and fall and it is staggering. Do you think there's anything to solar activity and global warming?
COLEMAN: I have to study more, but Rhodes Fairbridge of Columbia University who is a giant in astronomy has just come out with a whole new dissertation on how the major planet's orbit around the sun create a gravitational pull on the sun that intensifies or diminishes the solar output and creates solar cycles and the solar system that have great impact on our climate on Earth. This is the latest on this, and I have to study and read the whole paper before I know if I truly accept it. But the point is that we have a lot of research that have shown sun cycles as being a basic reason for climate change and to -- let's flip the coin. How about manmade activity? Well, we talk about our big greenhouse gas, our carbon dioxide. And if you take 100,000 molecules of air, of our atmosphere, 100,000 of them, only 38 of them are going to be carbon dioxide. I mean, it's a trace gas. And to have the future of the planet hinge on that seems very farfetched.
GLENN: How do you feel when Heidi Cullen, who is on the network you started, the Weather Channel, says, and I quote, if a meteorologist can't speak to the fundamental science of climate change, then maybe the AMS shouldn't give them the seal of approval?
COLEMAN: Well, she has a right to make her statement and the Weather Channel has a right to do whatever it wishes to do. We have freedom of speech and freedom of position, and I have a right to take my position. That's fine.
GLENN: But not really. She's basically saying you should lose --
COLEMAN: Now, I would be horrified if the AMS took her suggestion to heart, but I don't think it would. But, you know, the AMS is political like any other organization.
GLENN: Have you had much of a response from your -- I mean, it's the -- it is the strongest worded letter I have read that just cuts right to the heart of global warming being a scam.
COLEMAN: Glenn, I've had amazing outpouring.
GLENN: Good or bad?
COLEMAN: Just to my surprise. When this was published on Icecap, Icecap.us which is the skeptical website on global warming, my e-mail address was posted and I have received hundreds of e-mails, and they are running more than 10 to 1 supportive of my position, and they come from almost all college-educated people, many of them scientists, a great many of whom can't speak out because of their positions. They have heard from TV weatherman and scientists and research organizations who, because of their positions are absolutely muzzled because, you know, they've got to pay the mortgage.
COLEMAN: And so they can't say anything publicly but they can -- they say thank you, thank you, for speaking for us, who cannot speak.
GLENN: When you see something like NBC doing green week, a wholly owned subsidiary of General Electric --
COLEMAN: This is really what put me over the top.
GLENN: Is it?
COLEMAN: I have been posting material on global warming on my site, but this particular rant, I will call it, letter as it were, this blog, whatever you want to call it, this came when I watched the pregame show of the NFL football a week ago by candlelight.
GLENN: Yeah, yeah.
COLEMAN: I said, this is it, we're over the edge, we've gone over the top. This is beyond any belief and, of course, on your television affiliate network --
GLENN: Oh, yeah, I know. The planet's in peril.
COLEMAN: Planet in Peril is driving me to extraction. Between those two and all of everything that was part of it, that was kind of the end.
GLENN: Well, I appreciate your candidness, John, and we'll follow your story because, you know, I'm waiting to see how they discredit you or, you know, what happens in the future.
COLEMAN: Well, it doesn't make a great deal of difference. I'm an old guy who's got his retirement set. And by the way, I'm a very happy guy. I don't go around angry.
COLEMAN: My wife is good and so, you know, if suddenly my professional life ended, I've got a very fine life. I'm not worried about it.
GLENN: Well, if they take your AMS, we'll give you a seal of approval.
COLEMAN: I resigned from the AMS many years ago.
COLEMAN: I didn't want to be a political meteorologist anymore. When they took the seal of approval away from my friend Tom Skilling -- do you know who Tom Skilling is?
COLEMAN: He's the weatherman on WGN in Chicago. He's on cable all over the country, the best paid weatherman in the nation. They took his seal of approval away from him because the station he was with on Milwaukee put a puppet with him. He didn't have a choice about it. He's one of the best meteorologists on TV on the face of the Earth and a wonderful man and I said, come on, guys. But his competitor across town ran the AMS program and took the seal away from him.
GLENN: Damn those puppets. John, I appreciate it, man. Best of luck to you and thanks for speaking out, sir. You'll join us tonight for television.
COLEMAN: My pleasure.
GLENN: Thanks a lot.