by Darrell Ankarlo
GLENN: We go to Darrell Ankarlo now who is in Phoenix with a couple of updates for us on the border now in Mexico. Things are completely out of control. On Meet the Press yesterday Gates said, you know what, we might start doing some joint military action.
ANKARLO: Isn't this nice? Hey, Glenn, how are you doing, man?
GLENN: Okay, I want to talk to you quickly about two things because we have the returning hostages that were held by FARC for so long, we have them in the studio and we want to get to them real quick.
ANKARLO: Oh, very cool.
GLENN: But I wanted to talk to you a little bit about a couple of things. First of all, who is organizing the protests in Phoenix this weekend, you know, saying stop cracking down on illegal aliens?
ANKARLO: Yeah, they would like to say that they're a hodgepodge of just American citizens, but there's no doubt that La Raza was definitely involved in this. And by the way, one of the signs -- the guy got arrested, by the way -- one of the signs said death to our pile equals freedom for America, yeah, that's what we need. By the way, these peaceful protestors, a couple of thousand of them through the streets on Saturday, several of them were taken into custody for guns, having dye packs, having fake police badges. You know, it's just a friendly protest in the streets.
GLENN: Yeah, the guy who had the gun that I read about this morning, he had a Los Angeles police badge.
ANKARLO: It looked like one, yes.
GLENN: They said he was taken away for the gun to see if he had a permit for it. I wanted to know was the badge real. Because he doesn't need a permit if he's got a badge.
ANKARLO: Right. It was not a real badge. It turned out, Glenn, to be a money clip of all things. But obviously he wanted to make it look that way. And there was another guy with a gun. He was not arrested, but they did take his gun away from him. So, you know, the peaceful just want to work here in America, protests apparently not quite as peaceful, I Bess.
GLENN: Darrell, I have to ask you this because this really bothered me. As you know, because we're friends and we've talked for a long time, there's nobody that has a bigger love for our military and our police and our sheriffs than me. I respect these guys. I think they're on the front lines. I don't think that they get the credit they deserve. I know in many cases they don't get the pay they deserve. They really are on the front lines of anything that could come our way. They were on the front lines on September 11th. But I have to tell you, the police -- I had a sergeant on the TV show last week and he was talking about the 300 and, what is it, 46 people that have been kidnapped that we know of that have been reported and he got on television and he got on television and he actually tried to make the case that, oh, well, that's -- you know, those are just illegal aliens.
ANKARLO: Right, right, yeah.
GLENN: So are they less than people because they're illegal aliens and if you would stop the illegal aliens from coming in, you wouldn't have the illegal alien problem where you have to have a special task force to stop the kidnapping and killing.
ANKARLO: The fun part of it, Glenn, is you get it, I get it. Janet Napolitano, our new Homeland Security director did not get it the whole time she was the top dog here in Arizona and she and Joe Arpaio, our sheriff, they have not seen eye to eye. So the fact that she's opening up investigations into Sheriff Joe, very intriguing to me. But what I told you a couple of weeks ago still stands true in this story. For every one that we know about, there's at least two to three behind the scenes that we don't know about. In San Diego a businessman's daughter gets kidnapped from a mall. She's taken down to Mexico and then they start asking for ransom and they said, "Look, here's the deal. We've got her in another country, you're not going to get your kid back unless you pay up the money." So what I've said all along is if this is left unabated, then we're going to have the collateral damage of just regular joes getting kidnapped off the streets. And we've had kidnappings in malls here, by schools here, by churches here and I don't care if they are illegals or not, eventually it's going to be Glenn or Darrell or somebody that they know.
GLENN: I don't even understand, I don't even understand the thinking. Is it just that, who's -- Darrell.
GLENN: Who is at the top of this food chain that's the problem here? Because I can't believe the guys with the badges are like, "Oh, well, they're just illegals. So I'm just going to go fight the illegals now and I'm not really worried about, you know, kidnapping." That doesn't make any sense. It's making your whole community unsafe.
ANKARLO: You take a look at Los Angeles. It is a safety city, sanctuary city. San Francisco probably the worst in the country. New York, a sanctuary city. Phoenix up until about a year ago I would have called a sanctuary city. Now, the city moved in, the cops moved in, the sheriff moved in and made some moves that made it a little, a little, Glenn, more difficult for illegals to make their way around Phoenix proper. As a result we started to ratchet it up and we've had less illegal immigrants in the last year than we've had for years and years and years and years. So something is working. What frightens me is if we don't take this at its face value, then we're going to start seeing these people come back in and with them will be the riffraff. The coyotes are coming in, the cartels are definitely already here. You saw that on 60 Minutes last night. They did a great piece on America and if we don't stop the cartels now, we are in big time trouble. So all of that's playing around here in Phoenix, and finally people are starting to wake up to it.
GLENN: All right. Thanks, Darrell, I appreciate it.