Glenn interviews Jeff Foxworthy


Silly Street

by Jeff Foxworthy


GLENN: From Radio City in Midtown Manhattan, third most listened to show in all of America. Hello, you sick twisted freak. Welcome to the program. You know, it's Monday and I just, you know, I wanted to start with some common sense and some laughs. So we got Jeff Foxworthy on the phone with us. Hello, Jeff, how are you, man?

FOXWORTHY: I'm great, Glenn, how are you?

GLENN: Where are you? Are you still back at home or wandering, meandering around the country?

FOXWORTHY: No, I'm actually home in Atlanta today.

GLENN: We had you up here in New York, I don't know, a couple of weeks ago and you're writing -- you know, you got another book out. I swear to you, you're a machine. You are an absolute machine.

FOXWORTHY: I'm just trying to keep up with you. You're --

GLENN: Oh, stop it. Please, stop it. So you've got another children's book out, et cetera, et cetera, and we had a conversation on the air that -- actually we had it off the air. It actually airs tonight. I've been waiting to play it for the right moment. It was a conversation about our values, our principles and god and the ten commandments.

FOXWORTHY: Yeah.

GLENN: And when we look at all of the things that are going on, Jeff. I mean, here you are writing children's books, you know, writing the family together. We have disconnected. I think most of our problems are because we have disconnected from family and from the principles that come from God.

FOXWORTHY: Well, and we weren't intended to live that way. You know, I say to people, you know, if you look at a microwave oven, well, somebody created that, and when they created it and planned it and designed it, they had a purpose in mind for it. And the same thing with a coffee mug. Somebody created it and planned it and designed it. Well, we're infinitely more complex than that and so it just seems foolish to me to think that we are just happenstance, you know, and so if we were created, then somebody created us with a purpose and a design in mind, and I think we've so gotten away from what that purpose is. I mean, you are right, we have disconnected from family and we spend every waking moment with a phone to our ear or a computer in front of us and we've lost any of that introspection time or that time to do critical thinking, and it's to our detriment.

GLENN: So in other words, what you're saying is if we're a microwave, we've been putting tinfoil in us?

FOXWORTHY: Absolutely.

GLENN: Okay.

FOXWORTHY: And that wasn't what we were designed to do and that's not how we function best.

GLENN: You know, it's really funny that you would say that. I was just talking to, who was it just the other day and we were talking about there's no time to think anymore.

FOXWORTHY: No.

GLENN: That is one of our biggest problems. Everything is happening at such a rapid pace and we are always distracted. Also no pondering time anymore.

FOXWORTHY: You know, well, it used to be if you got in your car, at least you had quiet time from one place to the other. But now, you know, we use that to catch up on phone calls or text messages, and it's -- you know, and I don't make any apologies for my faith, but I think there's something real big when it said "Be still and know I'm God." I mean, it's like you need to contemplate some things. You know, you can't have critical thinking when you're always occupied, and I just think that's one of the biggest problems in the world now. And you have to make a choice that that's what you're going to do. I mean, you know, I made a choice, I wasn't going to do e-mail because everybody I know that does it, it takes two or three hours of their day. And I'm like, I'm not giving up two or three more hours that I could spend with my family to sit there in front of a computer.

GLENN: You really are a -- I mean, you really are a family guy. How do you do what -- I mean, most people don't know. Jeff Foxworthy is the most successful comedian in the history of American comedy. You have produced and generated more revenue than any -- I mean, really Jerry Seinfeld is embarrassed when you compare the two of you. It's true. How do you, how do you maintain your family life? You know, it's probably easier -- maybe it's not. It's probably easier for you to do it now that you're successful, but how did you do it and hold it all together?

FOXWORTHY: Well, you know, to me life is about priorities, and I was probably influenced because my dad left when I was like 9 years old, I mean, and he was the most loving man I've ever known. He was married six times. He had a lot of love and he spread it around. But I think as a child when you have a parent that leaves, no matter how well adjusted you are, for the rest of your life you have this little thought in the back of your mind that something else was more important than you. Something else was more important than staying and raising you. And so -- and I think when you come from anything, you either end up being like it or you end up going 180 degrees from it. And I just decided, you know, from the moment I found out I was going to be a dad that my kids were never going to have that feeling that something was more important than them. And --

GLENN: So how did you -- wait, wait, wait. To break a cycle is extraordinarily difficult. How did you do it?

FOXWORTHY: You know what? I just made them the priority, and it was -- and I love this thing that I do. I'm so lucky because I've made a great living doing something I love to do. But it's like, you know, I would be offered movies and they would shoot for nine weeks in the summer and I thought, you know, if there's a finite number of summers that I have with these girls and I'm not giving one of them away. And so I would turn stuff like that down. And people thought I was crazy, but looking back I can't think of a single summer that I would say, oh, that one wasn't worth it. I'm glad, you know, I threw that one away. And so it wasn't being totally money-driven because there was something more important than money. Because I've been as broke as you can be. You know, the year my wife and I got married, I made $8300 for the year doing comedy. But we were happy as clams. We had nothing and we were happy as clams and so you realize, well, money's not the thing. Is it nice? You bet it is. But it's not the thing. And so I just, you know, kind of always made them the priority and then everything else fell behind that.

GLENN: Do you happen to -- do you know David Wilkerson?

FOXWORTHY: Yes.

GLENN: You do know him?

FOXWORTHY: I know who he is. We've not met, no.

GLENN: I'm only asking you because you are from the South and I think everybody in the South is Baptist, aren't you? Is he a rational, sane kind of guy? Because he was the head of the Southern Baptist Convention, was he not?

FOXWORTHY: Yes. Well, see, and I'm kind of weird in my faith in that I don't believe -- I don't believe in denominations because the word denominate means to divide. And again I don't think that's what we were created for, you know. I think we were -- we're not supposed to be divided. And, you know, and if you believe in God and you believe he's infinitely created, then we don't all have to look and act and sound the same.

GLENN: That's what -- I mean, our founding fathers were -- our founding fathers believed in nature's god. They believed in God. They believed in his force and the best way to praise him is to serve him. And, you know, it doesn't matter, you know, what your faith was. Do you worship God. But this isn't why I was asking you. What I was asking you is did you see what he said over the weekend?

FOXWORTHY: I did not.

GLENN: Okay, he said over the weekend that Christians should be aware, all people should be aware that this thing is about to melt down. He says, I can't tell you when, he said, but I see a time when the cities in America are on fire and it is chaos in this country. I mean, it's a pretty bleak outlook, but I was struck by it because I thought, gee, why is no one talking about it's -- everybody is saying that, look, for instance, Detroit, it's melting down. You're going to have, you know -- anybody who's saying that there's riots, they are saying this over in England as well that, you know, anywhere there's going to be riots, it's going to be in the cities. And I thought to myself, that's where people are less likely to take responsibility for their own actions. It's where they have -- it's the welfare centers of the country. It's where the people are the weakest. Where people are out, they are doing their own thing, they have to rely on themselves and their neighbors, there's not going to be riots in those towns.

FOXWORTHY: No, there's not. You're talking about the founding fathers. This country was based on everybody having an opportunity to succeed. And not a guarantee but an opportunity that if you worked hard enough, you know, that you had a chance. And somewhere along the line, it's become a sense of entitlement, and it can't sustain itself that way. And if you look historically, I mean, the Roman empire fell, you know, without a war. If you look historically, it can happen. And I think it's kind of a crossroads here in this country that you can't expect the machine, the top small portion of the machine to support the whole machine. It won't work.

GLENN: You know, I've been saying -- because I've been warning about this stuff for several years.

FOXWORTHY: Indeed you have.

GLENN: What does that mean is this is that a sign?

FOXWORTHY: No, I love listening to you and watching you.

GLENN: Okay.

FOXWORTHY: I sit there and go, there's somebody with some common sense!

GLENN: But I have to tell you, Jeff, I am coming to a place here, and I felt it for the last couple of weeks. I keep hearing in my head the paradigm is about to change, the paradigm is about to change. I'm not sure what that means, but at the same time I have been also feeling and hearing in my own head, "Prepare to witness miracles." I think, you know, as the dark grows stronger, it's only because that's a shadow. The light is growing brighter. I have a feeling that while there's great trouble ahead, there are great miracles to be witnessed soon.

FOXWORTHY: Well, light is always stronger than darkness, you know, and I mean it's a weird thing in that, you know, you bring up the fact that, oh, here's a guy that is a family man. And it's like, it's almost embarrassing going, well, should that be so weird that somebody goes, oh, isn't that cool. I mean, it should be the rule and not the exception. But --

GLENN: Do you think that -- because, you know, the media has so changed, the media has so disconnected from, you know, praising the family and getting away from the average person, they don't see it at all. When you are going around the country, has the population changed or is it just the image of what America is through the media's eyes and the big population centers that has changed?

FOXWORTHY: Well, I've always argued that the media is not an accurate representation of what this country really is. And I think I can say that with some confidence because as a comedian, I have been to all 50 states. I have been to all 50 states many, many times. And I've always argued that, you know, most of the media is controlled out of New York and L.A., well, there's 200 million people in between. But their viewpoints aren't often the ones that make the news or the newspapers. And, you know, we've been kind of the quiet majority, but I kind of get a sense now that they're starting to see this little feeling of discontent in that and people are like, no, no, no, you don't speak for us anymore, and I think that's what it's going to take.

GLENN: Can you elaborate on one thing? Because I'd like to see if you feel the same thing. This is not about Barack Obama or the Democrats.

FOXWORTHY: Not at all.

GLENN: This is about -- the discontent started during the Republicans.

FOXWORTHY: Absolutely.

GLENN: And I mean, it's all of them. It is just disconnecting from anything that's real in Washington.

FOXWORTHY: Yeah. And it's -- you know, and it's that sense of entitlement. And if you go out to the farm country of Kansas or Iowa, I don't think people are feeling entitled out there, you know, like somebody owes them something. It's like, "No, I've got to get up and get my kids off to school and go to work and help take care of my mom who's old and not doing well," and they're not looking for somebody to do it for them and --

GLENN: Have you thought, have you thought at all -- because I think of my grandparents all the time. Have you thought at all about your grandparents? And maybe they wouldn't with you, but looking at our lifestyles, looking at our society, how many times -- you know, your grandparents would have just looked at you and slapped you across the face and said, what the hell is wrong with you and your generation?

FOXWORTHY: I think they would have. I think they would have, and I think -- you know, because back when they grew up, you didn't have this mass exodus from the farm. So people lived close to their mothers and their sisters and their moms and their grandparents. And you have the advantage -- you know, and I find as I have gotten older -- because I used to kind of, like, blow old people off and think, oh, you don't know. There's a lot of wisdom in somebody that's been on this planet for 60 or 70 years. And now we're not -- you know, the way we live, we don't take advantage of that. Because they may not know all the technology, but they've learned a lot of life lessons walking down this road a lot longer than we have.

GLENN: Jeff Foxworthy has written a new book for your kids. I read his books to my kids. They absolutely love them. The latest is Silly Street. Spend some quality time as a dad or a mom and pick up a book. Silly Street by Jeff Foxworthy and read it tonight to your kids. Jeff, always great to talk to you.

FOXWORTHY: You, too, buddy. Keep fighting the good fight. See you.

Today is the 75th anniversary of D-Day, the largest amphibious invasion in history.

The Allied invasion force included 5,000 ships and landing craft, 11,000 planes, and almost three million allied soldiers, airmen and sailors. Despite such numbers, the location and timing of the invasion was still an enormous gamble. The Nazis fully expected such an invasion, they just didn't know precisely when or where it would be.

Despite the enormous logistics involved, the gamble worked and by the end of June 6, 1944, 156,000 Allied troops were ashore in Normandy. The human cost was also enormous – over 4,900 American troops died on D-Day. That number doubled over the next month as they fought to establish a foothold in northern France.

There were five beach landing zones on the coast of northwestern France, divided among the Allies. They gave each landing zone a name. Canada was responsible for "Juno." Britain was responsible for "Gold" and "Sword." And the U.S. had "Utah" and "Omaha."

The Nazis were dug in with bunkers, machine guns, artillery, mines, barbed wire, and other obstacles to tangle any attempt to come ashore. Of the five beaches, Omaha was by far the most heavily defended. Over 2,500 U.S. soldiers were killed at Omaha – the beach so famously depicted in the opening battle sequence of the 1998 movie, Saving Private Ryan. The real-life assault on Omaha Beach included 34 men in that first wave of attack who came from the same small town of Bedford, Virginia. The first Americans to die on Omaha Beach were the men from Bedford.

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America has a national D-Day Memorial, but many people don't know about it.

America has a national D-Day Memorial, but many people don't know about it. Maybe that's because it wasn't a government project and it's not in Washington DC. It was initiated and financed by veterans and private citizens. It's tucked away in the foothills of the Blue Ridge Mountains, in the small town of Bedford, Virginia. Why is the memorial for one of the most famous days in modern world history in such a tiny town? Because, as a proportion of its population of just 3,200 at the time, no community in the U.S. sacrificed more men on D-Day than Bedford.

There were 34 men in Company A from Bedford. Of those thirty-four, 23 died in the first wave of attacks. Six weeks after D-Day, the town's young telegraph operator was overwhelmed when news of many of the first deaths clattered across the Western Union line on the same day. Name after name of men and families that she knew well. There were so many at once that she had to enlist the help of customers in the pharmacy's soda shop to help deliver them all.

Among those killed in action were brothers Bedford and Raymond Hoback. Bedford was the rambunctious older brother with a fiancée back home that he couldn't wait to return to. Raymond was the quieter, more disciplined younger brother who could often be found reading his Bible. He fell in love with a British woman during his two years in England training for D-Day. Like in that opening sequence of Saving Private Ryan, Bedford and Raymond barely made it down the ramp of their Higgins Boat in the swarm of bullets and hot steel before they were cut down in the wet sand.

Bedford and Raymond Hoback's mother, Macie, learned of both their deaths from two separate telegrams, the first on a Sunday morning, the second the following day. Their younger sister, Lucille, remembered her mother's devastation, and her father walking out to the barn to cry.

The day after D-Day, the killing field of Omaha Beach was already transforming into the massive supply port that would help fuel the American drive all the way to Berlin over the next year. A soldier from West Virginia was walking along the beach when he saw something jutting out of the sand. He reached down and pulled it out. He was surprised to find it was a Bible. The inside cover was inscribed with: "Raymond S. Hoback, from mother, Christmas, 1938." The soldier wrote a letter and mailed it with the Bible to Raymond's mother. That Bible, which likely tumbled from Raymond's pack when he fell on D-Day, became Macie Hoback's most cherished possession – the only personal belonging of her son that was ever returned.

Of the 23 Bedford men who died on Omaha Beach, eleven were laid to rest in the American cemetery in Normandy.

These men, many of them barely out of their teens, didn't sign up to march to the slaughter of course. They had hopes and dreams just like you and I. Many of them signed up for adventure, or because of peer pressure, and yes, a sense of honor and duty. Many of the Bedford Boys first signed up for the National Guard just to make a few extra bucks per month, get to hang out with their buddies, and enjoy target practice. But someone had to be first at Omaha Beach and that responsibility fell to the men from Bedford.

Over the last several years, the D-Day anniversary gets increasingly sad. Because each year, there are fewer and fewer men alive who were actually in Normandy on June 6, 1944. The last of the surviving Bedford Boys died in 2009. Most of the remaining D-Day veterans who are still with us are too frail to make the pilgrimage to France for the anniversary ceremonies like they used to.

It's difficult to think about losing these World War II veterans, because once they're all gone, we'll lose that tether to a time when the nation figured out how to be a better version of itself.

Not that they were saints and did everything right. They were as human as we are, with all the fallibility that entails. But in some respects, they were better. Because they went, and they toughed it out, and they accomplished an incredibly daunting mission, with sickening hardship, heartbreak, and terror along the way.

So, what does the anniversary of D-Day mean in 2019?

In one sense, this anniversary is a reprimand that we've failed to tell our own story well enough.

In one sense, this anniversary is a reprimand that we've failed to tell our own story well enough. You can't learn about the logistics of the operation and above all, the human cost, and not be humbled. But as a society, we have not emphasized well enough the story of D-Day and all that it represents. How can I say that? Because of an example just last weekend, when common sense got booed by Democratic Socialists at the California Democrats' State Convention. When Democratic presidential candidate John Hickenlooper said during his speech that "socialism is not the answer," the crowd booed loudly. When did telling the truth about socialism become controversial?

Sure, socialists, and communists and other anti-American factions have always been around. America certainly had socialists in 1944. But the current socialists trying to take over the Democratic Party like a virus don't believe in the D-Day sacrifices to preserve America, because they don't believe America is worth preserving. They are agitating to reform America using the authoritarian playbook that has only ended in death and destruction everywhere it is followed.

Ask a Venezuelan citizen, or an Iraqi Christian, or a North Korean peasant why D-Day still matters in 2019.

The further we move away from caring about pivotal events like June 6, 1944, the less chance of survival we have as a nation.

At the same time, the D-Day anniversary is a reminder that we're not done yet. It's an opportunity for us to remember and let that inform how we live.

Near the end of Saving Private Ryan, the fictional Captain Miller lays dying, and he gives one last instruction to Private Ryan, the young man that he and his unit have sacrificed their lives to rescue in Normandy. He says, "Earn it."

In other words, don't waste the sacrifices that were made so that your life could be saved. Live it well. The message to "earn it" extends to the viewer and the nation as well – can we say we're earning the sacrifices that were made by Americans on D-Day? I cringe to think how our few remaining World War II veterans might answer that.

Honor. Duty. Sacrifice. Gratitude. Personal responsibility. These used to mean a lot more.

Honor. Duty. Sacrifice. Gratitude. Personal responsibility. These used to mean a lot more. I don't want to believe it's too late for us to rediscover those traits as a nation. I want to believe we can still earn it.

The challenge to "earn it" is a lot of pressure. Frankly, it's impossible. We can't fully earn the liberty that we inherited. But we can certainly try to earn it. Not trying is arrogant and immoral. And to tout socialism as the catch-all solution is naïve, and insulting to the men like those from Bedford who volunteered to go defend freedom. In truly striving to earn it, we help keep the flame of liberty aglow for future generations. It is necessary, honorable work if freedom is to survive.

The end of Lincoln's Gettysburg Address is remarkably relevant for every anniversary of June 6, 1944. This is what D-Day still means in 2019:

"It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us – that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion – that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain – that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom – and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."

Letter from Corporal H.W. Crayton to Mr. and Mrs. Hoback – parents of Bedford and Raymond Hoback who were both killed in action on June 6, 1944

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July 9, 1944 Somewhere in France

Dear Mr. & Mrs. Hoback:

I really don't know how to start this letter to you folks, but will attempt to do something in words of writing. I will try to explain in the letter what this is all about.

While walking along the Beach D-day Plus One, I came upon this Bible and as most any person would do I picked it up from the sand to keep it from being destroyed. I knew that most all Bibles have names & addresses within the cover so I made it my business to thumb through the pages until I came upon the name above. Knowing that you no doubt would want the Book returned I am sending it knowing that most Bibles are a book to be cherished. I would have sent it sooner but have been quite busy and thought it best if a short period of time elapsed before returning it.

You have by now received a letter from your son saying he is well. I sincerely hope so.

I imagine what has happened is that your son dropped the Book without any notice. Most everybody who landed on the Beach D-Day lost something. I for one as others did lost most of my personal belongings, so you see how easy it was to have dropped the book and not know about it.

Everything was in such a turmoil that we didn't have a chance until a day or so later to try and locate our belongings.

Since I have arrived here in France I have had occasion to see a little of the country and find it quite like parts of the U.S.A. It is a very beautiful country, more so in peace time. War does change everything as it has this country. One would hardly think there was a war going on today. Everything is peaceful & quiet. The birds have begun their daily practice, all the flowers and trees are in bloom, especially the poppies & tulips which are very beautiful at this time of the year.

Time goes by so quickly as it has today. I must close hoping to hear that you receive the Bible in good shape.

Yours very truly,

Cpl. H.W. Crayton

It's not as easy as it used to be for billion-dollar entertainment empires like The Walt Disney Company. It would be more streamlined for Disney to produce its major motion pictures in its own backyard. After all, abortion in California is readily available, as well as a protected, cherished right. And since abortion access is critical for movie production, right up there with lighting equipment and craft services, you would think California would be the common-sense choice for location shooting. Alas, even billion-dollar studios must pinch pennies these days. So, in recent years, Disney, among other major Hollywood studios, has been farming out production to backwater Southern lands like Georgia, and even Louisiana. Those states offer more generous tax breaks than Disney's native California. As a result, Georgia for example, played host to much of the shooting for the recent worldwide box office smash Avengers: Endgame.

But now it looks like it's Georgia's endgame. The state recently passed what is known as a "heartbeat" bill – a vicious, anti-woman law that would try to make pregnant women allow their babies to be born and actually live. It's a bridge too far for a major studio like Disney, which was largely built on creating family entertainment. How can Disney possibly go about making quality movies, often aimed at children, without access to unfettered abortion? It's unconscionable. Lack of abortion access makes it nearly impossible to shoot movies. So, what's a major studio to do? Disney might have considered migrating its business to Louisiana, but that state too has now signed a heartbeat bill into law. It's utter madness.

These monstrous anti-abortion bills, coupled with having to live under President Trump, has led Disney to seek a new home for its legendary movie magic. Last week, Disney's CEO, Bob Iger, announced that all future Disney movies will now be filmed on location in the Sub-Saharan African nation of Wakanda.

"Disney and Wakanda are a match made in heaven," Iger told reporters. "Wakanda was, until recently, a secret kingdom, much like our own Magic Kingdom. With this new partnership, we'll not only get to continue our legacy of making movies that parents and children everywhere enjoy together, but we'll get to do so in a safe space that reveres abortion as much as we do."

Wakanda is one of only four African countries (out of 55) that allow unrestricted abortion.

As home to the most advanced technology in the world – and with the planet's highest per-capita concentration of wokeness – Wakanda offers women painless, hassle-free abortion on demand. As the Wakandan health ministry website explains, the complete absence of any white-patriarchal-Judeo-Christian influence allows women in Wakanda to have complete control of their own bodies (with the exception of females who are still fetuses). As winner of the U.N.'s 2018 Golden Forceps award (the U.N.'s highest abortion honor) Wakanda continues its glowing record on abortion. That makes it an ideal location for Disney's next round of live-action remakes of its own animated movies in which the company plans to remove all male characters.

Iger says he hopes to convince Wakandan leadership to share their top-secret vibranium-based abortion procedure technology so that American women can enjoy the same convenient, spa-like abortion treatment that Wakandan women have enjoyed for years.

Wakanda is one of only four African countries (out of 55) that allow unrestricted abortion. Disney plans to boycott and/or retaliate against the other 51 African nations, as well as any U.S. states, that restrict abortion. Specific plans are being kept under wraps, but sources say Disney's potential retaliation may include beaming Beverly Hills Chihuahua into the offending territories on a continuous, indefinite loop.

When asked how Wakanda's futuristic capital city and distinctly African landscape would be able to double for American movie locations, Iger said, "I guess America will just have to look more like Wakanda from now on."

One potential wrinkle for the Left-leaning studio is the fact that Wakanda has an impenetrable border wall-shield-thing designed to keep out foreign invaders as well as illegal immigrants. Iger said he understands Wakanda's policy of exclusivity, adding, "After all, not everyone gets into Disneyland. You have to have a ticket to get in. Anyone is welcome, but you have to go through the process of getting a ticket." When one reporter pointed out that Iger's answer sounded like the conservative argument for legal immigration under the rule of law, Iger insisted that the reporter was "a moronic fascist."

What if the unthinkable happens and Florida also enacts its own "heartbeat" law? That would be problematic since Walt Disney World is located in Florida. Iger responded that Disney would "cross that bridge if we get to it" but that the most likely scenario would entail "dismantling Disney World piece-by-piece and relocating it to the actual happiest place on earth – Wakanda." As for whether Disney would ever open character-themed abortion clinics inside its theme parks, Iger remained coy, but said, "Well, it is the place where dreams come true."

With the Wakanda solution, Disney may have found a place where Minnie Mouse can finally follow her heart and have true freedom of choice.

When pressed about the cost of ramping up production in a secretive African kingdom that has no existing moviemaking infrastructure (which could easily end up being much more expensive than simply shooting in California) Iger said, "You can't put a price tag on abortion freedom. Wakanda Forever and Abortion Forever!"

With the Wakanda solution, Disney may have found a place where Minnie Mouse can finally follow her heart and have true freedom of choice. And that will be welcome relief to traditional families all over the world who keep the Walt Disney Company in business.

*Disclaimer: The preceding story is a parody. Bob Iger did not actually say any of the quotes in the story. Neither is Wakanda an actual nation on planet Earth.

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From his suicidal days and his battle with drugs and alcohol, it was his wife Tania and his faith that saved him. All his ups and downs have given him the gift of empathy and he says he now understands the "cry for mercy" — something he wishes he'd given out more of over the years.

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One of these times I'm going to go on vacation, and I'm just not going to come back. I learn so much on a farm.

You want to know how things work, go spend a summer on a farm. You're having problems with your son or daughter, go spend a summer on a farm.

My son changed. Over two weeks.

Getting him out of bed, getting him to do anything, is like insane. He's a 15-year-old kid. Going all through the normal 15-year-old boy stuff. Getting him on the farm, where he was getting up and actually accomplishing stuff, having to build or mend fences, was amazing. And it changed him.

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Our society does not allow our kids to grow up, ever. I am convinced that our 15-year-olds could be fixing all kinds of stuff. Could be actually really making an impact in a positive way in our society. And what's wrong with our society is, we have gotten away from how things actually work. We're living in this theoretical world. When you're out on a farm, there's no theory here. If it rains, the crops will grow. If it rains too much, the crops won't grow.

If there's no sun, they won't grow. If there's too much sun, they'll shrivel up and die. There's no theory. We were out mending fences. Now, when I say the phrase to you, mending fences, what does that mean? When you think of mending fences, you think of, what?

Coming together. Bringing people together. Repairing arguments.

I've never mended a fence before until I started stringing a fence and I was like, "I ain't doing this anymore! Where is it broken? Can't we just tie a piece of barbed wire together?"

Let's stop talking about building a wall. Because that has all kinds of negative imagery. Mending fences is what we need to do.

That's called mending fences.

And why do you mend fences? So your animals don't get out and start to graze on somebody else's land. When your fence goes down, your cow is now on somebody else's land. And your cow is now eating their food.

We look at the phrase, mending fences as saying, hey. You know, we were both wrong. Mending fences has nothing to do with that.

Mending fences means build a wall. My neighbors and I, we're going to get along fine, as long as my cows don't go and steal their food, or their cows don't come over and steal my cow's food.

We're perfectly neighborly with each other, until one of us needs to mend a fence, because, dude, you got to mend that, because your cows keep coming over and eating my food.

You know what we need to do with Mexico? Mend fences.

Now, that's a phrase. You hear build a wall. That's horrible.

No, no, no. We need to mend fences.

In a farming community, that means putting up an electric fence. That means putting up barbed wire.

So the cows — because the cows will — they'll stick their head through barbed wire. And they'll eat the grass close to the road. Or eat the grass close to the other side of the fence. And they'll get their heads in between those fences. And they can't get out sometimes. Because the grass is always greener on the other side. You look at these damn cows and say turn around, cow — there's plenty of stuff over here.

No. They want the grass on the other side of the fence.

So you mend it.

And if it's really bad, you do what we do. We had to put an electric fence up. Now, imagine putting an electric fence up. That seems pretty radical and expensive.

Does it really work? Does it shock them? What does that feel like to a cow?

The cows hit it once, and then they don't hit it again. They can actually hear the buzz of the electric fence. There's a warning. Don't do it. Don't do it. They hear the current and they hit it once and they're like, "I'm not going to do that again."

So you mend fences, which means, keep your stuff on your side. I like you. We're good neighbors. You keep your stuff on your side and I'll keep my stuff on my side and we'll get together at the town hall and we'll see each other at the grocery store. Because we're good neighbors. But what stops us from fighting is knowing that there is a fence there.

This is my stuff. That's your stuff. But we can still trade and we'll help each other. But let's stop talking about building a wall. Because that has all kinds of negative imagery. Mending fences is what we need to do.

You can have a tough fence. It could be a giant wall. It could be an electric fence. But you need one. And that's how you come together.

The side that's having the problem, mends the fence.