Glenn Beck - Compean & Ramos: 1st calls from freedom


Don't miss Glenn's exclusive interview with former Border Agents Compean and Ramos tonight at 5pm ET on the Fox News Channel.

STU: I hate to interrupt you here. I've got a phone call from John you need to take.

GLENN: Yes, John, go ahead.

CALLER: Hello?

GLENN: Yes, John, go ahead. John?

CALLER: Yes.

GLENN: Yes, go ahead.

CALLER: How are you doing, Glenn?

GLENN: I'm doing fine. Who is this?

CALLER: It's John.

GLENN: Okay. Is there more to this story, John?

CALLER: Well, I was just calling because I listen to your show all the time and I'm just happy to finally be on it after all this time. I didn't think I'd get on.

STU: Are you sure John's his real name, Glenn?

GLENN: I have no idea who this is.

STU: Why don't you tell us who this is.

GLENN: It's Nacio, Glenn. Ignacio Ramos.

GLENN: Shut the hell up. How are you, my friend?

RAMOS: I'm doing good. I'm really good.

GLENN: Is this the first time that you've spoken in public?

RAMOS: Since my release?

GLENN: Yeah.

RAMOS: Oh, yeah.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh. I can't tell you. We were talking about you earlier this morning trying to figure out, you know, what you can and can't say. First question I've got for you is, how are you dealing with being out of solitary confinement?

RAMOS: Well, I'm doing good. Anything is a thousand times better than what it was. It will be good to finally get out of the house today.

GLENN: Today is the day, today is the day that you can actually walk out?

RAMOS: Yes. As a matter of fact, a little while ago they came and took off my monitor. So, you know, we're looking forward to finally leaving the house and we're going to meet a bunch of friends in a few hours for lunch.

GLENN: Is it all over?

RAMOS: Is what all over?

GLENN: Is your nightmare over? Is it done?

RAMOS: Well, I guess you could say the   

GLENN: Do they have anything   do they have anything else that they are holding over you, or are you a free man? Is there any condition on anything or are you now truly free to be your own person again?

RAMOS: Well, I'm still under supervised release for the next three years and I'll be meeting with my probation officer I believe on Monday. So, you know, I'll see what parameters they're going to set with me as far as that goes but   

GLENN: Now, you have a parole officer because they are afraid that Ignacio Ramos might go out and, what was the quote, shoot up some Mexicans?

RAMOS: I believe that's what   I believe that's what they used, yes.

GLENN: Yes, yes, yes. I remember seeing that and thinking that he hates Hispanics. Wow. Isn't he Hispanic? That's weird.

RAMOS: Yeah, go figure.

GLENN: Yeah. Well, you're going to be on TV tonight. Now, you two can't really talk to each other, though. That is one of the conditions.

RAMOS: Right.

GLENN: Is that right?

RAMOS: Right. And we don't   

GLENN: Are they worried you are going to   what did you say?

RAMOS: I said we don't give anybody excuse   

GLENN: Right. So I have to separate you two. I can't talk to both of you at the same time.

RAMOS: Well   

GLENN: Or you guys just can't address each other. Are they afraid you are going to start a militia group or   

RAMOS: I don't know. I think we do it just to err on the side of caution, that way they can't just ever say we communicate with each other.

GLENN: Violated.

RAMOS: Right.

GLENN: Unbelievable. That way it keeps everybody happy.

STU: Glenn, we're missing one important question here.

GLENN: Yes.

STU: Which is Ignacio, you've just come out of this whole ordeal, you've been away for so long. You have your monitor off. You are going out to lunch. Where does a guy like you go to his first lunch?

RAMOS: I believe we're going to a   well, we've had a lot of bring home lunches, but   

GLENN: What was your first meal?

RAMOS: Oh, once we got out?

GLENN: Yeah.

RAMOS: We couldn't stop anywhere, so at the airport I had Wendy's.

GLENN: When you went into prison, did you have this   did they have the Frostys with all the mix in like Oreos and stuff?

RAMOS: Unfortunately not.

GLENN: Now they do. It's pretty sweet.

RAMOS: They cut that off when you go in.

GLENN: Unbelievable. All right. Well, we'll talk to you   you know what, hold on just a second. I'm sorry. This came as a surprise so I didn't know you were calling in. John, thanks for calling in. Can you hang on just a second?

RAMOS: Absolutely.

GLENN: Okay. Unbelievable, Nacio Ramos, one of the border agents that was obviously in prison and in solitary confinement. Hang on. Nacio, how long were you in solitary? What was the total number of days?

RAMOS: Two years in a month.

GLENN: Unbelievable.

RAMOS: I forgot to   I lost track of the actual count of days. I guess it's over 700.

GLENN: Hang on just a second. I want to talk some more to you about   

RAMOS: Sure.

GLENN: About that, being in jail and being a political prisoner.

RAMOS: Sure.

GLENN: Do that here in just a second.

(Break)

GLENN: Oh, yeah, dog. Here's our number, 888 727 BECK. So I've only got about a minute and a half left here with Nacio Ramos but we're going to talk a little bit more tonight. Nacio   in a minute and a half. What was it like when you heard you were going to be released? What went through your mind when you heard that the president signed your release order?

RAMOS: Well, I wasn't sure I heard it at first because I mean, I have the radio on   I had the radio on every day and I wasn't sure exactly what I heard. So I had to wait until it was repeated on the radio and once they repeated it and I actually heard our names that we actually received the commutation, I just broke down. And I broke down and cried and I got down on my knees and I prayed and I thanked God.

GLENN: Did you   is it true that you heard it on our show?

RAMOS: It came on right before your show.

GLENN: Unbelievable. This is great stuff, great stuff. I can't tell you how excited we are, how many people in the audience have been praying for you, had been pulling for you, had been campaigning for you and we'll see you tonight.

RAMOS: Well, I look forward to it. And I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart because you've done so much for us and so have your listeners and really, we couldn't have done this without the support, prayers and, you know, of course with your savior Jesus Christ because   

GLENN: We'll see you tonight, my friend. Tonight, 5:00.

(Break)

GLENN: 888-727-BECK, 888-727-BECK. I mean, now I know why we had to -- I was told, hang on just a second because we just had Nacho Ramos on and now I know why when I heard in my headphones, no, no, no, minute and a half he's got to be gone. Because they can't appear together. Jose Compean is with us now. Jose?

COMPEAN: Yes, good morning, Glenn.

GLENN: How are you, my friend?

COMPEAN: Wonderful.

GLENN: I can't -- first of all, congratulations.

COMPEAN: Thank you.

GLENN: I am so glad that -- is your ankle bracelet off yet?

COMPEAN: About five, ten minutes ago.

GLENN: How does it feel?

COMPEAN: Oh, it was a little strange.

GLENN: In what way?

COMPEAN: I don't have that on my leg anymore. I don't have that -- I guess I'm actually able to walk out of the house and take my kids to school today. So --

GLENN: Have you walked out of the house yet?

COMPEAN: I'm allowed to go in my front yard and my backyard but that's about it. I haven't done it yet.

GLENN: Are you on a portable?

COMPEAN: Yes.

GLENN: Come on, go walk, just walk across the street.

COMPEAN: All right. Hang on a second.

GLENN: Just walk across the street just because you can. How does it -- how does it feel to be a free man?

COMPEAN: A little strange. After dealing with this for a couple of years knowing it's finally, we're finally done.

GLENN: Listen to the birds. I can hear the birds.

COMPEAN: Yeah. It's a beautiful sunny day.

GLENN: Did you think that you would be able to do this? Was there a time when you thought there's no way I can do this?

COMPEAN: There was, but I had all of the support from people all over the country, your radio listeners, your people who watch your TV show, yourself. I mean, just all the support really helped.

GLENN: Are you off your own property yet?

COMPEAN: Yes, I am. I'm in the middle of the street right now (laughing).

GLENN: Look out because that -- I mean, are you in a crosswalk? Because that's jaywalking.

COMPEAN: Oh, that's right.

GLENN: Well, we're going to have you on, we're going to have you both on tonight and talk about the experience of what it was like in the buildup. Did you -- when they said guilty, what is that like to be -- to know what you were facing and when they said guilty, what does that feel like?

COMPEAN: Almost like a dream, really. I mean, after everything that was said during the trial, a lot of people that read the transcripts and there's still a lot of stuff that, as far as I know, people don't really know. There's other things that went on that were not allowed.

GLENN: Can you talk about any of those yet? Are you allowed to talk?

COMPEAN: I don't think we are because like I said, I don't know if the stuff has been released, I guess.

GLENN: Right.

COMPEAN: A lot of the stuff that has been said in the judge's chambers, a lot has been not been released. A lot of the stuff that went on in there is just -- I mean, it's absolutely disgusting really the stuff that we heard that we were told that the jury was not allowed to hear. I mean, it's just --

GLENN: I know that I am -- I know that our research staff at Fox is trying to find out what can and can't be shared tonight and we hope to share at least some of it tonight. But if not, we'll wait until it can be shared. I find it amazing that you have had a gag order where you have not been able to speak out. We have not been able to talk or even see your image until about five minutes ago when you got your ankle bracelet off. We have not been able to talk or see your image. It will be the first time since you guys were released that you'll be able to actually speak out at 5:00 today on my program on the Fox News Channel. And like I said, we don't know yet what they can say but I would imagine just being able to speak and to be able to drive to a TV set is going to be a joy unlike you probably haven't felt for a very long time.

COMPEAN: Oh, yeah. I'm ready.

GLENN: We'll talk to you tonight. And God bless you and the family. How is the family?

COMPEAN: They are doing great. Kids are up and ready to go to school but for some reason they don't want to go this morning.

GLENN: Take them to the park.

COMPEAN: Yeah, I think we are.

GLENN: Yeah, take them to the park.

COMPEAN: I just won't tell Patty about it.

GLENN: Don't mess with Patty.

COMPEAN: Yeah.

GLENN: Don't mess with Patty. All right, we'll talk to you tonight, my friend. Thank you so much.

COMPEAN: All right. Thank you for having me.

GLENN: You bet. Bye-bye.

COMPEAN: Bye-bye.

GLENN: Jose Compean, Nacho Ramos, tonight.

STU: Glenn, the first words, the first time he stepped off of his property right here on this program, the first word from both of those guys in public right here on this program. That's kind of cool. I feel like we should just go home. What else are we going to do today?

GLENN: You know what's really cool is if you feel like you're alone, you feel like you don't have a voice, you feel like you don't have any power, imagine what it felt like to have the president of the United States coming after you. Imagine what it felt like to know that you were caught up in some sort of international incident between Mexico and America and you were the pawn. You were the sacrificial lamb, and you were there in solitary confinement, every hour of every day for over two years. These guys both listen to the radio program every day and they would listen. And I've often thought how many times they have thought, "Hey, man, you know, oh, it's great people are still talking about us," but how many times did they turn on the radio and we didn't mention them, that they went, "Oh, please." If you feel like you don't have a voice, imagine how they felt and yet not by people picking up guns. Not by people doing anything. And with the media against them, the media against the people who were speaking out, with no one on their side except the average person. They both just got their ankle bracelet off and Jose Compean, you heard it, walked off his property for the first time. He's his own man again, and he's in control of his own life.

Today is the 75th anniversary of D-Day, the largest amphibious invasion in history.

The Allied invasion force included 5,000 ships and landing craft, 11,000 planes, and almost three million allied soldiers, airmen and sailors. Despite such numbers, the location and timing of the invasion was still an enormous gamble. The Nazis fully expected such an invasion, they just didn't know precisely when or where it would be.

Despite the enormous logistics involved, the gamble worked and by the end of June 6, 1944, 156,000 Allied troops were ashore in Normandy. The human cost was also enormous – over 4,900 American troops died on D-Day. That number doubled over the next month as they fought to establish a foothold in northern France.

There were five beach landing zones on the coast of northwestern France, divided among the Allies. They gave each landing zone a name. Canada was responsible for "Juno." Britain was responsible for "Gold" and "Sword." And the U.S. had "Utah" and "Omaha."

The Nazis were dug in with bunkers, machine guns, artillery, mines, barbed wire, and other obstacles to tangle any attempt to come ashore. Of the five beaches, Omaha was by far the most heavily defended. Over 2,500 U.S. soldiers were killed at Omaha – the beach so famously depicted in the opening battle sequence of the 1998 movie, Saving Private Ryan. The real-life assault on Omaha Beach included 34 men in that first wave of attack who came from the same small town of Bedford, Virginia. The first Americans to die on Omaha Beach were the men from Bedford.

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America has a national D-Day Memorial, but many people don't know about it.

America has a national D-Day Memorial, but many people don't know about it. Maybe that's because it wasn't a government project and it's not in Washington DC. It was initiated and financed by veterans and private citizens. It's tucked away in the foothills of the Blue Ridge Mountains, in the small town of Bedford, Virginia. Why is the memorial for one of the most famous days in modern world history in such a tiny town? Because, as a proportion of its population of just 3,200 at the time, no community in the U.S. sacrificed more men on D-Day than Bedford.

There were 34 men in Company A from Bedford. Of those thirty-four, 23 died in the first wave of attacks. Six weeks after D-Day, the town's young telegraph operator was overwhelmed when news of many of the first deaths clattered across the Western Union line on the same day. Name after name of men and families that she knew well. There were so many at once that she had to enlist the help of customers in the pharmacy's soda shop to help deliver them all.

Among those killed in action were brothers Bedford and Raymond Hoback. Bedford was the rambunctious older brother with a fiancée back home that he couldn't wait to return to. Raymond was the quieter, more disciplined younger brother who could often be found reading his Bible. He fell in love with a British woman during his two years in England training for D-Day. Like in that opening sequence of Saving Private Ryan, Bedford and Raymond barely made it down the ramp of their Higgins Boat in the swarm of bullets and hot steel before they were cut down in the wet sand.

Bedford and Raymond Hoback's mother, Macie, learned of both their deaths from two separate telegrams, the first on a Sunday morning, the second the following day. Their younger sister, Lucille, remembered her mother's devastation, and her father walking out to the barn to cry.

The day after D-Day, the killing field of Omaha Beach was already transforming into the massive supply port that would help fuel the American drive all the way to Berlin over the next year. A soldier from West Virginia was walking along the beach when he saw something jutting out of the sand. He reached down and pulled it out. He was surprised to find it was a Bible. The inside cover was inscribed with: "Raymond S. Hoback, from mother, Christmas, 1938." The soldier wrote a letter and mailed it with the Bible to Raymond's mother. That Bible, which likely tumbled from Raymond's pack when he fell on D-Day, became Macie Hoback's most cherished possession – the only personal belonging of her son that was ever returned.

Of the 23 Bedford men who died on Omaha Beach, eleven were laid to rest in the American cemetery in Normandy.

These men, many of them barely out of their teens, didn't sign up to march to the slaughter of course. They had hopes and dreams just like you and I. Many of them signed up for adventure, or because of peer pressure, and yes, a sense of honor and duty. Many of the Bedford Boys first signed up for the National Guard just to make a few extra bucks per month, get to hang out with their buddies, and enjoy target practice. But someone had to be first at Omaha Beach and that responsibility fell to the men from Bedford.

Over the last several years, the D-Day anniversary gets increasingly sad. Because each year, there are fewer and fewer men alive who were actually in Normandy on June 6, 1944. The last of the surviving Bedford Boys died in 2009. Most of the remaining D-Day veterans who are still with us are too frail to make the pilgrimage to France for the anniversary ceremonies like they used to.

It's difficult to think about losing these World War II veterans, because once they're all gone, we'll lose that tether to a time when the nation figured out how to be a better version of itself.

Not that they were saints and did everything right. They were as human as we are, with all the fallibility that entails. But in some respects, they were better. Because they went, and they toughed it out, and they accomplished an incredibly daunting mission, with sickening hardship, heartbreak, and terror along the way.

So, what does the anniversary of D-Day mean in 2019?

In one sense, this anniversary is a reprimand that we've failed to tell our own story well enough.

In one sense, this anniversary is a reprimand that we've failed to tell our own story well enough. You can't learn about the logistics of the operation and above all, the human cost, and not be humbled. But as a society, we have not emphasized well enough the story of D-Day and all that it represents. How can I say that? Because of an example just last weekend, when common sense got booed by Democratic Socialists at the California Democrats' State Convention. When Democratic presidential candidate John Hickenlooper said during his speech that "socialism is not the answer," the crowd booed loudly. When did telling the truth about socialism become controversial?

Sure, socialists, and communists and other anti-American factions have always been around. America certainly had socialists in 1944. But the current socialists trying to take over the Democratic Party like a virus don't believe in the D-Day sacrifices to preserve America, because they don't believe America is worth preserving. They are agitating to reform America using the authoritarian playbook that has only ended in death and destruction everywhere it is followed.

Ask a Venezuelan citizen, or an Iraqi Christian, or a North Korean peasant why D-Day still matters in 2019.

The further we move away from caring about pivotal events like June 6, 1944, the less chance of survival we have as a nation.

At the same time, the D-Day anniversary is a reminder that we're not done yet. It's an opportunity for us to remember and let that inform how we live.

Near the end of Saving Private Ryan, the fictional Captain Miller lays dying, and he gives one last instruction to Private Ryan, the young man that he and his unit have sacrificed their lives to rescue in Normandy. He says, "Earn it."

In other words, don't waste the sacrifices that were made so that your life could be saved. Live it well. The message to "earn it" extends to the viewer and the nation as well – can we say we're earning the sacrifices that were made by Americans on D-Day? I cringe to think how our few remaining World War II veterans might answer that.

Honor. Duty. Sacrifice. Gratitude. Personal responsibility. These used to mean a lot more.

Honor. Duty. Sacrifice. Gratitude. Personal responsibility. These used to mean a lot more. I don't want to believe it's too late for us to rediscover those traits as a nation. I want to believe we can still earn it.

The challenge to "earn it" is a lot of pressure. Frankly, it's impossible. We can't fully earn the liberty that we inherited. But we can certainly try to earn it. Not trying is arrogant and immoral. And to tout socialism as the catch-all solution is naïve, and insulting to the men like those from Bedford who volunteered to go defend freedom. In truly striving to earn it, we help keep the flame of liberty aglow for future generations. It is necessary, honorable work if freedom is to survive.

The end of Lincoln's Gettysburg Address is remarkably relevant for every anniversary of June 6, 1944. This is what D-Day still means in 2019:

"It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us – that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion – that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain – that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom – and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."

Letter from Corporal H.W. Crayton to Mr. and Mrs. Hoback – parents of Bedford and Raymond Hoback who were both killed in action on June 6, 1944

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July 9, 1944 Somewhere in France

Dear Mr. & Mrs. Hoback:

I really don't know how to start this letter to you folks, but will attempt to do something in words of writing. I will try to explain in the letter what this is all about.

While walking along the Beach D-day Plus One, I came upon this Bible and as most any person would do I picked it up from the sand to keep it from being destroyed. I knew that most all Bibles have names & addresses within the cover so I made it my business to thumb through the pages until I came upon the name above. Knowing that you no doubt would want the Book returned I am sending it knowing that most Bibles are a book to be cherished. I would have sent it sooner but have been quite busy and thought it best if a short period of time elapsed before returning it.

You have by now received a letter from your son saying he is well. I sincerely hope so.

I imagine what has happened is that your son dropped the Book without any notice. Most everybody who landed on the Beach D-Day lost something. I for one as others did lost most of my personal belongings, so you see how easy it was to have dropped the book and not know about it.

Everything was in such a turmoil that we didn't have a chance until a day or so later to try and locate our belongings.

Since I have arrived here in France I have had occasion to see a little of the country and find it quite like parts of the U.S.A. It is a very beautiful country, more so in peace time. War does change everything as it has this country. One would hardly think there was a war going on today. Everything is peaceful & quiet. The birds have begun their daily practice, all the flowers and trees are in bloom, especially the poppies & tulips which are very beautiful at this time of the year.

Time goes by so quickly as it has today. I must close hoping to hear that you receive the Bible in good shape.

Yours very truly,

Cpl. H.W. Crayton

It's not as easy as it used to be for billion-dollar entertainment empires like The Walt Disney Company. It would be more streamlined for Disney to produce its major motion pictures in its own backyard. After all, abortion in California is readily available, as well as a protected, cherished right. And since abortion access is critical for movie production, right up there with lighting equipment and craft services, you would think California would be the common-sense choice for location shooting. Alas, even billion-dollar studios must pinch pennies these days. So, in recent years, Disney, among other major Hollywood studios, has been farming out production to backwater Southern lands like Georgia, and even Louisiana. Those states offer more generous tax breaks than Disney's native California. As a result, Georgia for example, played host to much of the shooting for the recent worldwide box office smash Avengers: Endgame.

But now it looks like it's Georgia's endgame. The state recently passed what is known as a "heartbeat" bill – a vicious, anti-woman law that would try to make pregnant women allow their babies to be born and actually live. It's a bridge too far for a major studio like Disney, which was largely built on creating family entertainment. How can Disney possibly go about making quality movies, often aimed at children, without access to unfettered abortion? It's unconscionable. Lack of abortion access makes it nearly impossible to shoot movies. So, what's a major studio to do? Disney might have considered migrating its business to Louisiana, but that state too has now signed a heartbeat bill into law. It's utter madness.

These monstrous anti-abortion bills, coupled with having to live under President Trump, has led Disney to seek a new home for its legendary movie magic. Last week, Disney's CEO, Bob Iger, announced that all future Disney movies will now be filmed on location in the Sub-Saharan African nation of Wakanda.

"Disney and Wakanda are a match made in heaven," Iger told reporters. "Wakanda was, until recently, a secret kingdom, much like our own Magic Kingdom. With this new partnership, we'll not only get to continue our legacy of making movies that parents and children everywhere enjoy together, but we'll get to do so in a safe space that reveres abortion as much as we do."

Wakanda is one of only four African countries (out of 55) that allow unrestricted abortion.

As home to the most advanced technology in the world – and with the planet's highest per-capita concentration of wokeness – Wakanda offers women painless, hassle-free abortion on demand. As the Wakandan health ministry website explains, the complete absence of any white-patriarchal-Judeo-Christian influence allows women in Wakanda to have complete control of their own bodies (with the exception of females who are still fetuses). As winner of the U.N.'s 2018 Golden Forceps award (the U.N.'s highest abortion honor) Wakanda continues its glowing record on abortion. That makes it an ideal location for Disney's next round of live-action remakes of its own animated movies in which the company plans to remove all male characters.

Iger says he hopes to convince Wakandan leadership to share their top-secret vibranium-based abortion procedure technology so that American women can enjoy the same convenient, spa-like abortion treatment that Wakandan women have enjoyed for years.

Wakanda is one of only four African countries (out of 55) that allow unrestricted abortion. Disney plans to boycott and/or retaliate against the other 51 African nations, as well as any U.S. states, that restrict abortion. Specific plans are being kept under wraps, but sources say Disney's potential retaliation may include beaming Beverly Hills Chihuahua into the offending territories on a continuous, indefinite loop.

When asked how Wakanda's futuristic capital city and distinctly African landscape would be able to double for American movie locations, Iger said, "I guess America will just have to look more like Wakanda from now on."

One potential wrinkle for the Left-leaning studio is the fact that Wakanda has an impenetrable border wall-shield-thing designed to keep out foreign invaders as well as illegal immigrants. Iger said he understands Wakanda's policy of exclusivity, adding, "After all, not everyone gets into Disneyland. You have to have a ticket to get in. Anyone is welcome, but you have to go through the process of getting a ticket." When one reporter pointed out that Iger's answer sounded like the conservative argument for legal immigration under the rule of law, Iger insisted that the reporter was "a moronic fascist."

What if the unthinkable happens and Florida also enacts its own "heartbeat" law? That would be problematic since Walt Disney World is located in Florida. Iger responded that Disney would "cross that bridge if we get to it" but that the most likely scenario would entail "dismantling Disney World piece-by-piece and relocating it to the actual happiest place on earth – Wakanda." As for whether Disney would ever open character-themed abortion clinics inside its theme parks, Iger remained coy, but said, "Well, it is the place where dreams come true."

With the Wakanda solution, Disney may have found a place where Minnie Mouse can finally follow her heart and have true freedom of choice.

When pressed about the cost of ramping up production in a secretive African kingdom that has no existing moviemaking infrastructure (which could easily end up being much more expensive than simply shooting in California) Iger said, "You can't put a price tag on abortion freedom. Wakanda Forever and Abortion Forever!"

With the Wakanda solution, Disney may have found a place where Minnie Mouse can finally follow her heart and have true freedom of choice. And that will be welcome relief to traditional families all over the world who keep the Walt Disney Company in business.

*Disclaimer: The preceding story is a parody. Bob Iger did not actually say any of the quotes in the story. Neither is Wakanda an actual nation on planet Earth.

"Journeys of Faith with Paula Faris," is a podcast featuring conversations about how faith has guided newsmakers and celebrities through their best and worst times. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is a much maligned religion so Glenn joined the podcast and took the time to explain what it means to him and how it changed his life.

From his suicidal days and his battle with drugs and alcohol, it was his wife Tania and his faith that saved him. All his ups and downs have given him the gift of empathy and he says he now understands the "cry for mercy" — something he wishes he'd given out more of over the years.

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One of these times I'm going to go on vacation, and I'm just not going to come back. I learn so much on a farm.

You want to know how things work, go spend a summer on a farm. You're having problems with your son or daughter, go spend a summer on a farm.

My son changed. Over two weeks.

Getting him out of bed, getting him to do anything, is like insane. He's a 15-year-old kid. Going all through the normal 15-year-old boy stuff. Getting him on the farm, where he was getting up and actually accomplishing stuff, having to build or mend fences, was amazing. And it changed him.

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Our society does not allow our kids to grow up, ever. I am convinced that our 15-year-olds could be fixing all kinds of stuff. Could be actually really making an impact in a positive way in our society. And what's wrong with our society is, we have gotten away from how things actually work. We're living in this theoretical world. When you're out on a farm, there's no theory here. If it rains, the crops will grow. If it rains too much, the crops won't grow.

If there's no sun, they won't grow. If there's too much sun, they'll shrivel up and die. There's no theory. We were out mending fences. Now, when I say the phrase to you, mending fences, what does that mean? When you think of mending fences, you think of, what?

Coming together. Bringing people together. Repairing arguments.

I've never mended a fence before until I started stringing a fence and I was like, "I ain't doing this anymore! Where is it broken? Can't we just tie a piece of barbed wire together?"

Let's stop talking about building a wall. Because that has all kinds of negative imagery. Mending fences is what we need to do.

That's called mending fences.

And why do you mend fences? So your animals don't get out and start to graze on somebody else's land. When your fence goes down, your cow is now on somebody else's land. And your cow is now eating their food.

We look at the phrase, mending fences as saying, hey. You know, we were both wrong. Mending fences has nothing to do with that.

Mending fences means build a wall. My neighbors and I, we're going to get along fine, as long as my cows don't go and steal their food, or their cows don't come over and steal my cow's food.

We're perfectly neighborly with each other, until one of us needs to mend a fence, because, dude, you got to mend that, because your cows keep coming over and eating my food.

You know what we need to do with Mexico? Mend fences.

Now, that's a phrase. You hear build a wall. That's horrible.

No, no, no. We need to mend fences.

In a farming community, that means putting up an electric fence. That means putting up barbed wire.

So the cows — because the cows will — they'll stick their head through barbed wire. And they'll eat the grass close to the road. Or eat the grass close to the other side of the fence. And they'll get their heads in between those fences. And they can't get out sometimes. Because the grass is always greener on the other side. You look at these damn cows and say turn around, cow — there's plenty of stuff over here.

No. They want the grass on the other side of the fence.

So you mend it.

And if it's really bad, you do what we do. We had to put an electric fence up. Now, imagine putting an electric fence up. That seems pretty radical and expensive.

Does it really work? Does it shock them? What does that feel like to a cow?

The cows hit it once, and then they don't hit it again. They can actually hear the buzz of the electric fence. There's a warning. Don't do it. Don't do it. They hear the current and they hit it once and they're like, "I'm not going to do that again."

So you mend fences, which means, keep your stuff on your side. I like you. We're good neighbors. You keep your stuff on your side and I'll keep my stuff on my side and we'll get together at the town hall and we'll see each other at the grocery store. Because we're good neighbors. But what stops us from fighting is knowing that there is a fence there.

This is my stuff. That's your stuff. But we can still trade and we'll help each other. But let's stop talking about building a wall. Because that has all kinds of negative imagery. Mending fences is what we need to do.

You can have a tough fence. It could be a giant wall. It could be an electric fence. But you need one. And that's how you come together.

The side that's having the problem, mends the fence.