Glenn Beck - Compean & Ramos: 1st calls from freedom


Don't miss Glenn's exclusive interview with former Border Agents Compean and Ramos tonight at 5pm ET on the Fox News Channel.

STU: I hate to interrupt you here. I've got a phone call from John you need to take.

GLENN: Yes, John, go ahead.

CALLER: Hello?

GLENN: Yes, John, go ahead. John?

CALLER: Yes.

GLENN: Yes, go ahead.

CALLER: How are you doing, Glenn?

GLENN: I'm doing fine. Who is this?

CALLER: It's John.

GLENN: Okay. Is there more to this story, John?

CALLER: Well, I was just calling because I listen to your show all the time and I'm just happy to finally be on it after all this time. I didn't think I'd get on.

STU: Are you sure John's his real name, Glenn?

GLENN: I have no idea who this is.

STU: Why don't you tell us who this is.

GLENN: It's Nacio, Glenn. Ignacio Ramos.

GLENN: Shut the hell up. How are you, my friend?

RAMOS: I'm doing good. I'm really good.

GLENN: Is this the first time that you've spoken in public?

RAMOS: Since my release?

GLENN: Yeah.

RAMOS: Oh, yeah.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh. I can't tell you. We were talking about you earlier this morning trying to figure out, you know, what you can and can't say. First question I've got for you is, how are you dealing with being out of solitary confinement?

RAMOS: Well, I'm doing good. Anything is a thousand times better than what it was. It will be good to finally get out of the house today.

GLENN: Today is the day, today is the day that you can actually walk out?

RAMOS: Yes. As a matter of fact, a little while ago they came and took off my monitor. So, you know, we're looking forward to finally leaving the house and we're going to meet a bunch of friends in a few hours for lunch.

GLENN: Is it all over?

RAMOS: Is what all over?

GLENN: Is your nightmare over? Is it done?

RAMOS: Well, I guess you could say the   

GLENN: Do they have anything   do they have anything else that they are holding over you, or are you a free man? Is there any condition on anything or are you now truly free to be your own person again?

RAMOS: Well, I'm still under supervised release for the next three years and I'll be meeting with my probation officer I believe on Monday. So, you know, I'll see what parameters they're going to set with me as far as that goes but   

GLENN: Now, you have a parole officer because they are afraid that Ignacio Ramos might go out and, what was the quote, shoot up some Mexicans?

RAMOS: I believe that's what   I believe that's what they used, yes.

GLENN: Yes, yes, yes. I remember seeing that and thinking that he hates Hispanics. Wow. Isn't he Hispanic? That's weird.

RAMOS: Yeah, go figure.

GLENN: Yeah. Well, you're going to be on TV tonight. Now, you two can't really talk to each other, though. That is one of the conditions.

RAMOS: Right.

GLENN: Is that right?

RAMOS: Right. And we don't   

GLENN: Are they worried you are going to   what did you say?

RAMOS: I said we don't give anybody excuse   

GLENN: Right. So I have to separate you two. I can't talk to both of you at the same time.

RAMOS: Well   

GLENN: Or you guys just can't address each other. Are they afraid you are going to start a militia group or   

RAMOS: I don't know. I think we do it just to err on the side of caution, that way they can't just ever say we communicate with each other.

GLENN: Violated.

RAMOS: Right.

GLENN: Unbelievable. That way it keeps everybody happy.

STU: Glenn, we're missing one important question here.

GLENN: Yes.

STU: Which is Ignacio, you've just come out of this whole ordeal, you've been away for so long. You have your monitor off. You are going out to lunch. Where does a guy like you go to his first lunch?

RAMOS: I believe we're going to a   well, we've had a lot of bring home lunches, but   

GLENN: What was your first meal?

RAMOS: Oh, once we got out?

GLENN: Yeah.

RAMOS: We couldn't stop anywhere, so at the airport I had Wendy's.

GLENN: When you went into prison, did you have this   did they have the Frostys with all the mix in like Oreos and stuff?

RAMOS: Unfortunately not.

GLENN: Now they do. It's pretty sweet.

RAMOS: They cut that off when you go in.

GLENN: Unbelievable. All right. Well, we'll talk to you   you know what, hold on just a second. I'm sorry. This came as a surprise so I didn't know you were calling in. John, thanks for calling in. Can you hang on just a second?

RAMOS: Absolutely.

GLENN: Okay. Unbelievable, Nacio Ramos, one of the border agents that was obviously in prison and in solitary confinement. Hang on. Nacio, how long were you in solitary? What was the total number of days?

RAMOS: Two years in a month.

GLENN: Unbelievable.

RAMOS: I forgot to   I lost track of the actual count of days. I guess it's over 700.

GLENN: Hang on just a second. I want to talk some more to you about   

RAMOS: Sure.

GLENN: About that, being in jail and being a political prisoner.

RAMOS: Sure.

GLENN: Do that here in just a second.

(Break)

GLENN: Oh, yeah, dog. Here's our number, 888 727 BECK. So I've only got about a minute and a half left here with Nacio Ramos but we're going to talk a little bit more tonight. Nacio   in a minute and a half. What was it like when you heard you were going to be released? What went through your mind when you heard that the president signed your release order?

RAMOS: Well, I wasn't sure I heard it at first because I mean, I have the radio on   I had the radio on every day and I wasn't sure exactly what I heard. So I had to wait until it was repeated on the radio and once they repeated it and I actually heard our names that we actually received the commutation, I just broke down. And I broke down and cried and I got down on my knees and I prayed and I thanked God.

GLENN: Did you   is it true that you heard it on our show?

RAMOS: It came on right before your show.

GLENN: Unbelievable. This is great stuff, great stuff. I can't tell you how excited we are, how many people in the audience have been praying for you, had been pulling for you, had been campaigning for you and we'll see you tonight.

RAMOS: Well, I look forward to it. And I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart because you've done so much for us and so have your listeners and really, we couldn't have done this without the support, prayers and, you know, of course with your savior Jesus Christ because   

GLENN: We'll see you tonight, my friend. Tonight, 5:00.

(Break)

GLENN: 888-727-BECK, 888-727-BECK. I mean, now I know why we had to -- I was told, hang on just a second because we just had Nacho Ramos on and now I know why when I heard in my headphones, no, no, no, minute and a half he's got to be gone. Because they can't appear together. Jose Compean is with us now. Jose?

COMPEAN: Yes, good morning, Glenn.

GLENN: How are you, my friend?

COMPEAN: Wonderful.

GLENN: I can't -- first of all, congratulations.

COMPEAN: Thank you.

GLENN: I am so glad that -- is your ankle bracelet off yet?

COMPEAN: About five, ten minutes ago.

GLENN: How does it feel?

COMPEAN: Oh, it was a little strange.

GLENN: In what way?

COMPEAN: I don't have that on my leg anymore. I don't have that -- I guess I'm actually able to walk out of the house and take my kids to school today. So --

GLENN: Have you walked out of the house yet?

COMPEAN: I'm allowed to go in my front yard and my backyard but that's about it. I haven't done it yet.

GLENN: Are you on a portable?

COMPEAN: Yes.

GLENN: Come on, go walk, just walk across the street.

COMPEAN: All right. Hang on a second.

GLENN: Just walk across the street just because you can. How does it -- how does it feel to be a free man?

COMPEAN: A little strange. After dealing with this for a couple of years knowing it's finally, we're finally done.

GLENN: Listen to the birds. I can hear the birds.

COMPEAN: Yeah. It's a beautiful sunny day.

GLENN: Did you think that you would be able to do this? Was there a time when you thought there's no way I can do this?

COMPEAN: There was, but I had all of the support from people all over the country, your radio listeners, your people who watch your TV show, yourself. I mean, just all the support really helped.

GLENN: Are you off your own property yet?

COMPEAN: Yes, I am. I'm in the middle of the street right now (laughing).

GLENN: Look out because that -- I mean, are you in a crosswalk? Because that's jaywalking.

COMPEAN: Oh, that's right.

GLENN: Well, we're going to have you on, we're going to have you both on tonight and talk about the experience of what it was like in the buildup. Did you -- when they said guilty, what is that like to be -- to know what you were facing and when they said guilty, what does that feel like?

COMPEAN: Almost like a dream, really. I mean, after everything that was said during the trial, a lot of people that read the transcripts and there's still a lot of stuff that, as far as I know, people don't really know. There's other things that went on that were not allowed.

GLENN: Can you talk about any of those yet? Are you allowed to talk?

COMPEAN: I don't think we are because like I said, I don't know if the stuff has been released, I guess.

GLENN: Right.

COMPEAN: A lot of the stuff that has been said in the judge's chambers, a lot has been not been released. A lot of the stuff that went on in there is just -- I mean, it's absolutely disgusting really the stuff that we heard that we were told that the jury was not allowed to hear. I mean, it's just --

GLENN: I know that I am -- I know that our research staff at Fox is trying to find out what can and can't be shared tonight and we hope to share at least some of it tonight. But if not, we'll wait until it can be shared. I find it amazing that you have had a gag order where you have not been able to speak out. We have not been able to talk or even see your image until about five minutes ago when you got your ankle bracelet off. We have not been able to talk or see your image. It will be the first time since you guys were released that you'll be able to actually speak out at 5:00 today on my program on the Fox News Channel. And like I said, we don't know yet what they can say but I would imagine just being able to speak and to be able to drive to a TV set is going to be a joy unlike you probably haven't felt for a very long time.

COMPEAN: Oh, yeah. I'm ready.

GLENN: We'll talk to you tonight. And God bless you and the family. How is the family?

COMPEAN: They are doing great. Kids are up and ready to go to school but for some reason they don't want to go this morning.

GLENN: Take them to the park.

COMPEAN: Yeah, I think we are.

GLENN: Yeah, take them to the park.

COMPEAN: I just won't tell Patty about it.

GLENN: Don't mess with Patty.

COMPEAN: Yeah.

GLENN: Don't mess with Patty. All right, we'll talk to you tonight, my friend. Thank you so much.

COMPEAN: All right. Thank you for having me.

GLENN: You bet. Bye-bye.

COMPEAN: Bye-bye.

GLENN: Jose Compean, Nacho Ramos, tonight.

STU: Glenn, the first words, the first time he stepped off of his property right here on this program, the first word from both of those guys in public right here on this program. That's kind of cool. I feel like we should just go home. What else are we going to do today?

GLENN: You know what's really cool is if you feel like you're alone, you feel like you don't have a voice, you feel like you don't have any power, imagine what it felt like to have the president of the United States coming after you. Imagine what it felt like to know that you were caught up in some sort of international incident between Mexico and America and you were the pawn. You were the sacrificial lamb, and you were there in solitary confinement, every hour of every day for over two years. These guys both listen to the radio program every day and they would listen. And I've often thought how many times they have thought, "Hey, man, you know, oh, it's great people are still talking about us," but how many times did they turn on the radio and we didn't mention them, that they went, "Oh, please." If you feel like you don't have a voice, imagine how they felt and yet not by people picking up guns. Not by people doing anything. And with the media against them, the media against the people who were speaking out, with no one on their side except the average person. They both just got their ankle bracelet off and Jose Compean, you heard it, walked off his property for the first time. He's his own man again, and he's in control of his own life.

Glenn Beck: Adam Schiff is a LIAR — and we have the proof

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On the radio program Wednesday, Glenn Beck didn't hold back when discussing the latest in a long list of lies issued by House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) during the Democrats' ongoing endeavor to remove President Donald Trump from office.

"I'm going to just come out and say, Adam Schiff is a liar. And he intentionally lied. And we have the proof. The media being his little lapdog, but I'll explain what's really going on, and call the man a liar to his face," Glenn asserted. "No, I'm not suggesting he's a liar. No, I'm telling you, he's a liar. ... Adam Schiff is a lying dirtbag."

A recent report in Politico claimed Schiff "mischaracterized" the content of a document sent to House Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler (D-N.Y.) as evidence against President Trump in the Senate impeachment trial. Read more on this here.

"Let me translate [for Politico]," Glenn said. "House Intelligence Chairman Adam Schiff lied about a text message exchange between two players in the Ukrainian saga. And we know it, because of the documents that were obtained by Politico."

A few of the other lies on Schiff's list include his repeated false claims that there was "significant evidence of collusion" between the Trump campaign and Russia leading up to the 2016 presidential election, his phony version of President Trump's phone call with the president of Ukraine, and his retracted claim that neither he nor his committee ever had contact with the Trump-Ukraine whistleblower. And the list just keeps getting longer.

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On the radio program Tuesday, Glenn Beck and Stu Burguiere discussed recent reports that former Vice President Joe Biden's son, Hunter, wasn't the only family member to capitalize on his connections to land an unbelievably lucrative job even though he lacked qualifications or experience.

According to Peter Schweizer's new book, "Profiles in Corruption: Abuse of Power by America's Progressive Elite," Joe Biden's younger brother, Frank, enjoyed the benefit of $54 million in taxpayer loans during the Obama administration to try his hand at an international development venture.

A lawyer by training, Frank Biden teamed up with a developer named Craig Williamson to build a sprawling luxury resort in Costa Rica, which claimed to be on a mission to preserve the country's forests but actually resulted in the decimation of thousands of acres of wilderness.

The then-vice president's brother also reportedly earned hundreds of thousands of dollars as the front man of a for-profit charter school company called Mavericks in Education.

The charter schools, which focused on helping at-risk teens, eventually failed after allegations of mismanagement and a series of lawsuits derailed the dubious business venture.

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Ryan: Bernie at the disco

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Saturday at El Malecón, we waited for the Democratic socialist. He had the wild white hair like a monk and the thick glasses and the booming voice full of hacks and no niceties.

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The venue had been redecorated since we visited a few nights before when we chatted with Castro. It didn't even feel like the same place. No bouncy castle this time.

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A black curtain blocked the stage, giving the room a much-needed depth.

Behind the podium, two rows of mostly young people, all holding Bernie signs, all so diverse and picturesque and strategic.

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Lots of empty seats. Poor showing of Bernie fans for a Saturday afternoon. At one point, someone from Bernie's staff offered us seats in the audience, as if eager to fill up those seats however possible.

There were about 75 people in the dancehall, a place built for reunions and weddings and all those other festivities. But for a few hours on Saturday, August 10, 2019, it turned serious and wild for "Unidos Con Bernie."

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People had been murmuring about Sanders' speech from the night before at Wing Ding. By all appearances, he had developed a raving lust to overthrow Trump. He had even promised, with his wife just out of view, that, were he elected, he'd end white nationalism in America. For good.

El Malecón lacked its previous air of celebration. It had undertaken a brooding yet defiant spirit. Media were sparse. Four cameras faced the podium. Three photographers, one of whom had been at nearly all the same events as us. A few of the staffers frowned at an empty row of chairs, because there weren't that many chairs to begin with.

At the entrance, Bernie staff handed out headsets that translated English to Spanish or Spanish to English, depending on who the speaker was. The translators stood behind the bar, 20 feet from the podium, and spoke into a lip-ribbon microphone.

Bernie's staff was probably the coolest, by far. As in, they looked cool and acted stylishly. Jeans. Sandals. Careworn blazers. Tattoos. One lad had a black Levi's shirt with lush crimson roses even though he wasn't a cowboy or a ranch-hand. Mustaches. Quirky hats. A plain green sundress. Some of them wore glasses, big clunking frames.

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The outfits were distinctly Bernie. As Bernie as the tie-dyed "BERNIE" shirts for sale outside the club. Or later, at the Hilton, like a Grateful Dead cassette stand.

Immigration was the theme, and everyone in the audience bore some proof of a journey. Because America offers life, freedom, and hope.

Sanders' own father emigrated from Poland to America at 17, a high school dropout who could barely speak English. As a Jew, he'd faced religious persecution.

Within one generation, Bernie Sanders' father contributed to the highest stratum of American society. In one generation, near hopelessness had transformed into Democracy, his son a congressman with a serious chance at the presidency.

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That's the beauty of America. Come here broken and empty and gutted and voiceless. And, within your lifetime, you can mend yourself then become a pillar of society. Then, your son can become the President of the United States of America!

Four people gave speeches before Sanders. They took their time, excited and nervous. They putzed. Because how often do you get to introduce a presidential frontrunner?

All the native English speakers jammed their earpieces when the woman with the kind and dark energy took the stage.

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She mumbled in Spanish and did not look up and said that, when her parents died, she couldn't go home for the funeral. She fought back tears. She swallowed hard to shock herself calm. And the room engulfed each silence between every word.

It felt more like a therapy session than a political rally. A grueling therapy session at that. Was that what drew people to Bernie Sanders, that deep anguish? That brisk hope? Or, rather, the cessation of it, through Sanders? And, of course, the resultant freedom? Was it what gave Sanders a saintlike ability to lead people into the realm of the confessional? Did he have enough strength to lead a revolution?

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While other frontrunners hocked out money for appearances, like the studio lights, Sanders spent money on translators and ear-pieces. The impression I got was that he would gladly speak anywhere. To anyone. He had the transitory energy you can capture in the writings of Gandhi.

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I'm not saying he's right or wrong — I will never make that claim, about any of the candidates, because that's not the point of this, not the point of journalism, amen — what I'm saying is he has the brutal energy of someone who can take the subway after a soiree or rant about life by a tractor or chuck it up with Sarah Silverman, surrounded wherever he goes.

Without the slightest fanfare, Sanders emerged from behind the black curtain. The woman at the podium gasped a little. The room suctioned forward when he entered. In part because he was so nonchalant. And, again. That magnetism to a room when a famous or powerful or charming person enters. Not many people have it. Not many can keep it. Even fewer know how to brace it, to cull it on demand. But several of the candidates did. One or two even had something greater.

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I'll only say that Bernie had it with a bohemian fervor, like he was a monk stranded in a big city that he slowly brings to God.

"We have a President who, for the first time in my lifetime, who is a President who is a racist," he shouted. "Who is a xenophobe and anti-immigrant. Who is a sexist. Who is a religious bigot. And who, is a homophobe. And, what is very disappointing is that, when we have a President, we do not necessarily expect to agree with him, or her, on every issue. But we do believe that one of the obligations is to bring people to-geth-ah. As Americans."

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After listening silently for several minutes, the audience clapped. Their sweet response felt cultish. But, then again, what doesn't feel cultish these days? So this was cultish like memes are cultish, in a striving-to-understand kind of way.

"The essence of our campaign is in fact to bring people together," he said. "Whether they're black, or white, or latino, or Native American, or Asian-American. We understand that we are Americans."

At times, this meant sharing a common humanity. Others, it had a slightly more disruptive feel. Which worked. Sometimes all we want is revolution. To be wild without recourse. To overthrow. To pass through the constraints of each day. To survive. The kind of rowdy stuff that makes for good poetry but destroys credit lines. Sanders radiated with this intensity, like a reclusive philosopher returning to society, from his cave to homes and beds and fences and maybe electricity.

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But, as he says, his revolution would involve healthcare and wages and tuition, not beheadings and purges and starvation.

Seeing the Presidential candidates improvise was amazing. They did it constantly. They would turn any of their beliefs into a universal statement. And Sanders did this without trying. So he avoided doing the unbearably arrogant thing of pretending to speak like a native Guatemalan, and he looked at the group of people, and he mumbled in his cloudy accent:

"My Spanish — is not so good."

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This is the same and the opposite of President Trump's Everyman way of speaking English like an American. Of speaking American.

Often, you know what Sanders will say next. You can feel it. And, anytime this happened, it brought comfort to the room.

Like, it surprised no one when he said that he would reinstate DACA on his first day in office. It still drew applause.

But other times, he expressed wild ideas with poetic clarity. And his conclusions arrived at unusual junctures. Not just in comparison to Republicans. To all of them. Bernie was the Tupac of the 2020 election. And, to him, President Trump was Suge Knight, the evil force behind it all.

"Donald Trump is an idiot," he shouted.

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Everybody loved that. Everybody clapped and whooped and some even whistled like they were outside and not in a linoleum-floor dancehall.

"Go get 'em, Bernie," someone in the back shouted.

This was the only Sanders appearance with no protestors.

"Let me say this about the border," he shouted. And everybody listened to every thunking syllable. He probably could have spoken without a mic. Booming voice. Loud and clear. Huddling into that heavy Vermont slug accent.

They'll say many many things about Bernie. One being, you never had to lean forward to hear him. In person, even more so. He's less frail. More dynamic.

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Despite the shoddiness of the venue, there was a sign language interpreter. Most of the rallies had a designated interpreter.

"If you work 40 hours a week you shouldn't be living in poverty," he shouted, provoking chants and applause from the audience, as if he were talking about them. Maybe he was.

An anecdote about the people at an emergency food shelf blended into the livable wage of $15 an hour. He shifted into his spiel about tuition-free college and pointed at the audience, "You're not doing well," then at the kids behind him, "they are." He craned his head sideways and back. "Do your homework," he told said.

Laughter.

Half of the kids looked like they hadn't eaten in days. Maybe it was their unusual situation, a few feet from Bernie Sanders at a stucco community center.

Before the room could settle, Sanders wove through a plan for how to cancel debt.

Did he have a solution?

Tax Wall Street, he shouted.

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And he made it sound easy. "Uno dos trey," he said. "That's my Spanish for today."

A serious man, he shoved through his speech like a tank hurtling into dense jungle. He avoided many of the typical politician gimmicks. Proof that he did not practice every expression in front of a mirror. That he did not hide his accent. That he did not preen his hair. That he did not smile for a precise amount of time, depending on the audience. That he did not pretend to laugh.

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He laughed when humor overtook him. But it was genuine. With none of the throaty recoil you hear in forced laughter.

"I want everyone to take a deep breath," he said. And a palpable lightness spread through the room, because a deep breath can solve a lot of problems.

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Then he roused some more. "Healthcare is a human right," he shouted. "A human privilege," he shouted. He told them that he lives 50 miles from the Canadian border in Burlington, Vermont, and healthcare works better up north.

Each candidate had a bad word, and Sanders' was "corporate."

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At every speech, he mentioned "corporate media" with the same distrust and unpleasantness that conservatives derive from the term "mainstream media." Another would be "fake news," as popularized by Sanders' sworn enemy. Either way it's the same media. Just different motivations that irk different people.

But the discrepancies varied. Meaning two opposing political movements disliked the same thing, but for opposite reasons.
It sounded odd, Sanders' accusation that the media were against him. The media love Bernie. I can confirm this both anecdotally and judiciously. Yes, okay, in 2016, the media appeared to have sided with Hillary Clinton. As a result, Sanders was publicly humiliated. Because Clinton took a mafioso approach to dealing with opponents, and Sanders was her only roadblock.

Imagine if a major political organization devoted part of each day to agitating your downfall. And then you fail. And who's fault is it?

Sanders wanted to know: those negative ads targeting him, who paid for them?

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Corporations, of course. Corporations that hated radicals like him. And really was he so radical? He listed off the possibilities: Big pharma, insurance companies, oil companies.

Because he had become a revolutionary, to them. To many.

He said it with certainty, although he often didn't have to say it at all. This spirit of rebellion had become his brand. He would lead the wild Americans into a utopia.

But just as quickly, he would attack. Trump, as always, was the target.

He called Trump the worst president in American history.

"The fates are Yuge," he shouted.

The speech ended as informally as it had begun. And Sanders' trance over the audience evaporated, replaced by that suction energy. Everyone rushed closer and closer to the man as Neil Young's "Keep on Rockin in the Free World" blared. Sanders leaned into the podium and said, "If anyone wants to form a line, we can do some selfies."

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It was like meeting Jesus for some of the people.

There he was, at El Malecón. No stage lights, no makeup, no stylist behind the curtain. Just him and his ideas and his erratic hand commotion.

Then a man holding a baby leaned in for a photo. He and Sanders chatted. And, I kid you not, the whole time the baby is staring at Bernie Sanders like he's the image of God, looking right up at him, with this glow, this understanding.

Bernie, if you're reading this, I'd like to suggest that — if this election doesn't work for you — you could be the next Pope.

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On the "Glenn Beck Radio Program" Monday, Harvard Law professor and lawyer on President Donald Trump's impeachment defense team Alan Dershowitz explains the history of impeachment and its process, why the framers did not include abuse of power as criteria for a Constitutional impeachment, why the Democrats are framing their case the way they are, and what to look for in the upcoming Senate trial.

Dershowitz argued that "abuse of power" -- one of two articles of impeachment against Trump approved by House Democrats last month -- is not an impeachable act.

"There are two articles of impeachment. The second is 'obstruction of Congress.' That's just a false accusation," said Dershowitz. "But they also charge him, in the Ukraine matter, with abuse of power. But abuse of power was discussed by the framers (of the U.S. Constitution) ... the framers refused to include abuse of power because it was too broad, too open-ended.

"In the words of James Madison, the father of our Constitution, it would lead presidents to serve at the will of Congress. And that's exactly what the framers didn't want, which is why they were very specific and said a president can be impeached only for treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors," he added.

"What's alleged against President Trump is not criminal," added Dershowitz. "If they had criminal issues to allege, you can be sure they would have done it. If they could establish bribery or treason, they would have done it already. But they didn't do it. They instead used this concept of abuse of power, which is so broad and general ... any president could be charged with it."

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