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GLENN: Let's go right to Ted Nugent, who's on the line with me now. Hey, Uncle Ted, how are you, sir?

NUGENT: Greetings, Glenn, you extremist you.

GLENN: I'm excited to see you at the Alamo.

NUGENT: Great place. What a shrine in Texas. It deserves us.

GLENN: It deserves us (laughing). Ted, did you read what Governor Perry said about the Tenth Amendment?

NUGENT: Absolutely. In fact, I've been communicated with the great governor in America, by the way, for a long time because I saw the other states doing it and I wrote a piece on humanevents.com and Wacotrib.com regarding that. The Tenth Amendment is as important as the second Amy.

GLENN: I have to tell you, you know, I've been a little iffy on Governor Perry because of the way he's handled the border in the past. I didn't think he was real tough on the border, but holy cow. What a statement coming from him on state sovereignty.

NUGENT: Well, listen, Glenn. Governor Perry is not your average bureaucrat. When we were finally getting concealed weapons rights here in the State of Texas, the great Republic of Texas, he stood up and said something that no politician has ever had the balls to say in the past. He said a concealed weapons permit is a concealed weapons permit wherever you may go. That is incredible and unprecedented.

GLENN: Wait a minute. What did he mean by that?

NUGENT: He meant that you should be able to carry guns in schools and he thought, it was his opinion that when you came to the capitol in Austin that when you were carrying on everyday citizen business, you could carry your gun wherever you went.

GLENN: God bless him, man.

NUGENT: That's where I love the guy.

GLENN: I have to tell you, I said absolutely no politicians on tax day but I'm going to make it if he still has time, I'm going to make an exception. I'd like to have him on the air with us tomorrow from the Alamo because

NUGENT: He's not a regular politician.

GLENN: He isn't. I mean, this statement in case you don't know what we're talking about, we'll recap it here in just a second, but the governor of Texas has come out and said we are tired of Washington telling Texans how to run Texas. Washington is out of control and we're not going to stand for it anymore.

NUGENT: Hello.

GLENN: I mean, it's amazing. Okay, hang on, Ted, we'll be back with you in just a second. Talk a little bit about what's happening in our country, what the tax tea parties really mean, what the media is missing and what we'll experience tomorrow and what you'll feel tomorrow from Texas, not only on the radio tomorrow but also live from the Alamo. Our usual time, 5:00 p.m. Eastern time, live from the Alamo, surrounded by a bunch of Texans. America, you don't want to miss tomorrow's episode. More with Ted Nugent, next.

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GLENN: We join once again Ted Nugent from his are you down at your ranch?

NUGENT: I'm down here in the beautiful Republic of Texas, Glenn.

GLENN: You know, Ted, I couldn't be at a tea party I don't think any place else other than the Alamo.

NUGENT: Well, as soon as I saw that it was going to be at the Alamo, that's when I called you. I said, that's a party zone for Uncle Ted.. Let's rock.

GLENN: I mean, it's just, it's the best. Are you going to bring your guitar?

NUGENT: Who's going to stop me? No, I'm going to play a firestorm of passionate Star Spangled Banner right there at the Alamo. It's called the Shrine of Texas because literally and figuratively the line was drawn in the sand and you know the Texas economy, the Texas spirit, it's so different, the Texas freedom. This is the last best place. I love America, but I love Texas more. This state is the last best place in the last best place and, you know, Marcus Luttrell will be with us tomorrow. I've got buddies and blood brothers of the military, every faction of the military and law enforcement. I mean, people from every walk of life, my hunting buddies, teachers and hardware store owners. Everybody's coming. It's going to be a great celebration.

GLENN: Hold on just a second. You are not suggesting there will be people with guns there?

NUGENT: I'm going to be there.

GLENN: What did you say?

NUGENT: I'm going to be there.

GLENN: Yeah. You wouldn't carry a gun.

NUGENT: No, I think unarmed and helpless is the way to go.

GLENN: It is the way to go, yes, yes, it is.

NUGENT: God bless the Navy SEALs, by the way. I love the way they handle pirates. My favorite pirate would be a dead one.

GLENN: Can I tell you something? They are talking about taking the 16 year old kid I said this this morning on Fox and Friends. They are talking about taking the 16 year old kid and bringing him over here and trying him in the United States. Shoot him in the head.

NUGENT: I've got to tell you, even 24 which used to be my very good show, I don't like soft. This is a we are in a war on terror. Those people over there don't give a damn about life. They are literally being emboldened and encouraged and rewarded by the sheep like countries who pay off the ransom. We need to send a message: Don't tread on me. And it doesn't include a spanking.

GLENN: Tell me, Ted, about is there a coincidence? I saw this in the newspapers and everybody was saying this on television like it was just some sort of tidbit, just like it just happened to be just over 200 years since we've had these problems with these pirates. You know why?

NUGENT: Read my piece today on humanevents.com. I've written a piece about how the Nugent family would handle pirates. And it's not just a weird guitar player's hunch. I believe that self evident truth, logic, goodwill and decency, good over evil, I believe it is alive and well.. I believe that the work ethic that made this country so superior to the rest of the planet is alive and well, and I think that's what these tea parties are celebrating and it goes right to how we handled this pirate situation off the coast of Somalia. That's how we should have handled the Beirut barracks. It's how we should have handled the USS Cole. It's how we should have handled the '93 assault in New York City. This is how we should deal with evil. This is the right modus operandi, and I salute all those involved.

GLENN: You know, I was listening to somebody who is just as left, apologist. I mean, I don't know if you've seen on the Huffington Post and some of these other things. They are actually, they are apologizing for the pirates and they're saying, you know, these pirates, they are just misunderstood. You've got to be kidding me. They don't understand that if we don't go and shoot these guys, stop these guys, the flag on the back of every ship, there's a reason why it hasn't been attacked for 200 years because Thomas Jefferson went and cut their heads off.

NUGENT: Hallelujah. Thomas Jefferson went to the Marines and said take them out and we sent them a message. Well, now what message are we sending if we don't do that?

NUGENT: Well, it goes to a much more pragmatic daily consideration, Glenn. You know, I got in a lot of hot water because I stand up for the truth. I don't play games. I believe that the next time a woman is about to be raped, she should kill him. I believe rapists should be dead, and the person about to be raped knows who the bad guy is. And I got in a lot of hot water, but I'd love to hear Plan B.

GLENN: Wait. I'm trying to think, where did you get into hot water on that? I'm trying to find, where is the problem with shooting the rapist?

NUGENT: But I did. You should see the attack. You can go to humanevents.com right now

GLENN: I mean, are you getting paid for humanevents.com? What is this? It's like the third plug here.

NUGENT: I'm proud to get my word out. I'm just a guitar player but I'm able to get the word out.

GLENN: Listen, everything that Ted has written on humanevents.com, we'll put in the newsletter today and so you'll have it right to your desktop.

NUGENT: Yes, put it in Glenn's newsletter. I'd be proud to write for you, Glenn. My point is

GLENN: Would you?

NUGENT: that I get attacked, I get personally attacked and my wife gets really upset. I go, no, no, honey, this is good. I'm a black Jew at a Nazi Klan rally. Of course they hate me..

GLENN: So what was the argument against women who are being raped shooting the rapist?

NUGENT: You become a vigilante.

GLENN: No, I just don't become a victim.

NUGENT: Amen. But see, what you and I consider to be inescapable, self evident truth, the left doesn't adhere to it. They literally reject. I've done so many shows. I was on Bill Maher's Politically Incorrect 16 times and I stood up for Second Amendment rights, and Elayne Boosler, a funny comedian, she was attacking me for being on the board of the NRA and attacking me because I carried a gun, and I mentioned that, you know, everybody who's getting raped today, everyone who's getting burglarized today, everyone who's getting carjacked today is unarmed and helpless. And we got into a conversation and I actually said so if you were about to be raped and you had a 38 nearby, you wouldn't shoot them? And she literally admitted that she didn't think she could do it. I told her I'd shoot them for her, but

GLENN: (Laughing).

NUGENT: But that's the mindset. I guess they just don't value

GLENN: This doesn't make any sense. Look, if somebody's in my house and they are stealing my television, you know what, you come up those stairs, you start coming towards my family, I shoot you dead.

NUGENT: Bingo.

GLENN: I don't think I'm going to shoot you for my television set, although I would consider it. I may get up on the wrong side of the bed. You're in my house.

NUGENT: No, but really examine the statistics, Glenn. And if he has broken that rule and he has broken into your house, you do not know if the television set is all he can take.

GLENN: That's why I say I'm not I mean, look, if I could see it and you're like, "No, I'm just taking the television, then I'll leave you alone" and I could see into the future and that's really what he was going to do? Okay. But I don't know.. I don't know what you're going to do. You've broken into my house, but I have to tell you if somebody is harming me, my family, my children, my neighbor, anybody, I shoot them. I shoot them.

NUGENT: Well, you know, we believe that good should win over evil and if you are unarmed and helpless, evil will win. And I find that unacceptable.

GLENN: So Ted, what do you how much time do we have here, Stu? We have less than a minute? Can you hang on just one more break, Ted?

NUGENT: My pleasure.

GLENN: Can you hang on?

NUGENT: Sure.

GLENN: Because I just want to ask you what you're sensing in Texas, because you travel all over the country. And I've sensed something different in Texas for a while now. What you're sensing in Texas that is different from the rest of the country, how far ahead is Texas and especially in regards to the tea party and, you know, the madness of an out of control government. The number is 888 727 BECK. Don't forget tomorrow we will be in San Antonio at the Alamo. Ted Nugent will be joining me and so much more. Don't miss it. Tomorrow, San Antonio, meet me at the Alamo.

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GLENN: 888 727 BECK. Ted Nugent is with us. He's going to be joining me tomorrow at the Alamo, the live broadcast begins at 4:00 p.m. Central time, 5:00 usual time on television. And then afterwards is the Texas tea party that is happening and there's just no place better in the country than in the Alamo and we'll explain a little bit of the history and everything of the Alamo tomorrow. I mean, once you know the story of the Alamo, you're like, oh, my gosh. It is perfect. So let yourself be seen and heard tomorrow from the Alamo.

Ted, I have been saying for the last couple of years that the people in Texas understand the meaning of the word "Republic" where most Americans don't even understand republic anymore.

NUGENT: It's very different here, Glenn. You really have a sense of freedom. I was born and raised in Detroit and if you really wanted to be honest about liberal policies and the results of liberal policies, I give you the once great productive state of Michigan. Conversely if you come to Texas, it's a wide open, inviting environment for an entrepreneur to start a business. There's no income tax, no personal income tax here. I mean, I hate to constantly refer to everything regarding gun rights but here in Texas our gun rights, we can have a loaded rifle, and those of us with Class 3 licenses, we can have a loaded machine gun in our truck next to us. And maybe you can tell me the last time you heard of a carjacking in Texas. You can't people's heads would explode in Illinois, in Massachusetts, in California just considering that citizens are trusted with firearms in their truck? Yeah. This is Texas. We're free. We have good private property rights.

There's a rugged individualism. There's a neighborliness. There's a powerful, palpable goodwill and friendliness and decency in the great Republic of Texas. Now, it's ubiquitous across the land, I would trust my friends in Massachusetts with a rifle in their truck. No one's going to stop by and be urged to, you know, rob a bank just because the gun happened to be handy. That is so bizarre of a thought pattern.

GLENN: No. No, here's where you go here's where you go wrong, Ted. You wouldn't have, like you made the example of California, you know, you wouldn't be able to have a gun in your truck because in California you are soon not going to be able to have a truck.

NUGENT: Yeah. That's just my point. You know, and here there are two words that describe why I live in Texas: Joe Horn. If my neighbor's house was on fire, I wouldn't just call 911. I'd start hosing down the flames. I'd go and I'd try to help my neighbor. Well, when Joe Horn in Houston saw his neighbor's house assaulted and burglarized by two invaders from Colombia, convicted felon. Now, he didn't know they were convicted felons, but he saw his neighbor's freedom being assaulted. Joe Horn called 911, but he confronted the thieves and killed them. I like dead thieves. I like dead felons. In Texas we think if you rob our neighbor's home, we have just as much right to stop you as if you're robbing our home because we have a neighborliness. Yet across the nation, especially on Fox News all the talking heads on Fox News condemned Joe Horn and, of course, Plan B would be to let the invaders from Colombia rob anyone they want because 911 gets nothing done.

GLENN: I believe that I was over at CNN at the time not condemning Mr. Horn.

NUGENT: Good. I saw Mr. Napolitano, whatever the legal talking heads at Fox were literally going, "He would be in prison for life for first degree murder any place else." That's exactly

GLENN: Well, no, but that's true. First of all

NUGENT: It is true.

GLENN: Yeah, Judge Napolitano is a libertarian.

NUGENT: He should have spoke out and he should have supported Joe Horn. He didn't. I watched it.

GLENN: So tell me, Ted, on what am I wrong thinking that Texas is ahead of the rest of the country in their being fed up with an out of control government? And it didn't just start with Barack Obama. This has been going on for a very long time.

NUGENT: Oh, even our neighbor over in Crawford when Bush was turning into a fed zilla tax blowtorch spending like a drunken sailor in a whorehouse, the voices rose up in Texas against our own neighbor in Texas because he was violating the self evident truths that the rest of us have to live by, i.e., living within your means.

GLENN: Right.

NUGENT: So that's there's a love and affection for all good men in Texas, but we will not tolerate much.

GLENN: How

NUGENT: Again I have to repeat, I wasn't born in Texas but I got here as soon as I could. And you have to spend some time, and I'm sincere when I invite you down, Glenn. You will never feel more American, you will never feel more welcome, you will never feel safer than when you come to Texas. And if you want to start a doughnut shop or a dry cleaners or a ranch supply outfit, you can do it in Texas. The red tape is effective but minimal, not to be confused with Michigan.

GLENN: Ted, I lived in Corpus Christi for two years and I lived in Houston for two years.

NUGENT: Am I right?

GLENN: Oh, yeah. No, it's a different attitude in Texas. It's a different it is a different place, and it is again a place that understands a republic. We're not a democracy. No matter what anybody says, we're not mob rule.

NUGENT: That's right.

GLENN: We are a republic, and that is the way our founders designed us so we wouldn't have mob rule and so man could truly be free. Republic is one of the only ways that freedom can exist. And we've turned ourselves into a democracy that, you know, says, oh, well, the people have spoken and the people have you know, believe in this guy so he can trample the Constitution. That's both George Bush and Barack Obama. You can't trample the Constitution.

NUGENT: You know across the State of Texas in my meanderings, I see the American flag flown proudly everywhere, Glenn. And right under it is the Texas flag with equal pride. And oftentimes, more often than not right under that is a yellow flag with a coiled snake that says "Don't tread on me." That spirit of independence is declared ubiquitously across the great Republic of Texas, from the east to the west, to the north, to the south. And you will be so at home at the Alamo tomorrow. And when I play the Star Spangled Banner, there is no words to describe the patriotism and the love of this country that exists in this state

GLENN: Can I tell you something?

NUGENT: Colonel Travis drew that line in the sand and it's still in the hearts of Texans.

GLENN: Ted, there's going to be a lot of people that will just happen to have their TVs on tomorrow at 5:00 p.m. eastern and we're going to start the program with the Star Spangled Banner.

NUGENT: Hallelujah.

GLENN: I believe that there will be a lot of people in New York that just happen to have the show on and their heads will pop when they hear it.

NUGENT: Blood's going to squirt out of their eyeballs.

GLENN: Tomorrow from the Alamo, Ted Nugent, we'll see you there.

NUGENT: God bless you, Glenn.

GLENN: You bet. Bye.

Here's a question unique to our times: "Should I tell my father 'Happy Father's Day,' even though he (she?) is now one of my mothers?"

Father's Day was four days ago, yes, but this story is just weird enough to report on. One enjoyable line to read was this gem from Hollywood Gossip: "Cait is a woman and a transgender icon, but she is also and will always be the father of her six children."

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Imagine reading that to someone ten — even five — years ago. And, honestly, there's something nice about it. But the strangeness of its having ever been written overpowers any emotional impact it might bring.

"So lucky to have you," wrote Kylie Jenner, in the Instagram caption under pre-transition pictures of Bruce Jenner.

Look. I risk sounding like a tabloid by mere dint of having even mentioned this story, but the important element is the cultural sway that's occurring. The original story was that a band of disgruntled Twitter users got outraged about the supposed "transphobic" remarks by Jenner's daughter.

But, what we should be saying is, "who the hell cares?" Who cares what one Jenner says to another — and more importantly and on a far deeper level — who cares what some anonymous Twitter user has to say?

When are we going to stop playing into the hands of the Twitter mob?

When are we going to stop playing into the hands of the Twitter mob? Because, at the moment, they've got it pretty good. They have a nifty relationship with the mainstream media: One or two Twitter users get outraged by any given thing — in this case Jenner and supposed transphobia. In return, the mainstream media use the Twitter comment as a source.

Then, a larger Twitter audience points to the article itself as proof that there's some kind of systemic justice at play. It's a closed-market currency, where the negative feedback loop of proof and evidence is composed of faulty accusations. Isn't it a hell of a time to be alive?

These days, when Americans decide to be outraged about something, we really go all out.

This week's outrage is, of course, the Trump administration's "zero tolerance" policy toward illegal immigration along the southern border. Specifically, people are upset over the part of the policy that separates children from their parents when the parents get arrested.

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Lost in all the outrage is that the President is being proactive about border security and is simply enforcing the law. Yes, we need to figure out a less clumsy, more compassionate way of enforcing the law, but children are not being flung into dungeons and fed maggots as the media would have you believe.

But having calm, reasonable debates about these things isn't the way it's done anymore. You have to make strong, sweeping announcements so the world knows how righteous your indignation is.

That's why yesterday, the governors of Maryland, Massachusetts, New York, Rhode Island and Connecticut declared they are withholding or recalling their National Guard troops from the U.S.-Mexico border until this policy of separating children from their parents is rescinded.

Adding to the media stunt nature of this entire "crisis," it turns out this defiant announcement from these five governors is mostly symbolic. Because two months ago, when President Trump called for 4,000 additional National Guard troops to help patrol the border, large numbers of troops were not requested from those five states. In fact, no troops were requested at all from Rhode Island. But that didn't stop Rhode Island's Democratic governor, Gina Raimondo, from announcing she would refuse to send troops if she were asked. She called the family separation policy, "immoral, unjust and un-American."

There's so much outrage, we're running short on adjectives.

The governors of Connecticut, Massachusetts, and New York all used the word "inhumane" in their statements condemning the Trump administration policy. There's so much outrage, we're running short on adjectives.

In a totally unrelated coincidence, four of these five governors are running for re-election this year.

I've made my position clear — separating these children from their parents is a bad policy and we need to stop. We need to treat these immigrants with the kind of compassion we'd want for our own children. And I said the same thing in 2014 when no one cared about the border crisis.

If consistency could replace even just a sliver of the outrage in America, we would all be a lot better off.

I think we can all agree, both on the Left and the Right, that children who have been caught up in illegal immigration is an awful situation. But apparently what no one can agree on is when it matters to them. This past weekend, it suddenly — and even a little magically — began to matter to the Left. Seemingly out of nowhere, they all collectively realized this was a problem and all rushed to blame the Trump administration.

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Here's Rachel Maddow yesterday:

I seem to remember getting mocked by the Left for showing emotion on TV, but I'll give her a pass here. This is an emotional situation. But this is what I can't give her a pass on: where the heck was this outrage and emotion back in 2014? Because the same situation going on today — that stuff Maddow and the rest of the Left have only just now woken up to — was going on back in July 2014! And it was arguably worse back then.

I practically begged and pleaded for people to wake up to what was going on. We had to shed light on how our immigration system was being manipulated by people breaking our laws, and they were using kids as pawns to get it done. But unlike the gusto the Left is using now to report this story, let's take a look at what Rachel Maddow thought was more important back in 2014.

On July 1, 2014, Maddow opened her show with a riveting monologue on how President Obama was hosting a World Cup viewing party. That's hard-hitting stuff right there.

On July 2, 2014, Maddow actually acknowledged kids were at the border, but she referenced Health and Human Services only briefly and completely rushed through what was actually happening to these kids. She made a vague statement about a "policy" stating where kids were being taken after their arrival. She also blamed Congress for not acting.

See any difference in reporting there from today? That "policy" she referenced has suddenly become Trump's "new" policy, and it isn't Congress's fault… it's all on the President.

She goes on throughout the week.

On July 7, 2014, her top story was something on the Koch brothers. Immigration was only briefly mentioned at the end of the show. This trend continued all the way through the week. I went to the border on July 19. Did she cover it? Nope. In fact, she didn't mention kids at the border for the rest of the month. NOT AT ALL.

Do you care about immigrant kids who have been caught in the middle of a broken immigration system or not?

Make up your minds. Is this an important issue or not? Do you care about immigrant kids who have been caught in the middle of a broken immigration system or not? Do you even care to fix it, or is this what it looks like — just another phony, addicted-to-outrage political stunt?

UPDATE: Here's how this discussion went on radio. Watch the video below.

Glenn gives Rachel Maddow the benefit of the doubt

Rachel Maddow broke down in tears live on her MSNBC show over border crisis.

Progressives think the Obamas are a gift to the world. But their gift is apparently more of the metaphorical kind. It doesn't extend to helpful, tangible things like saving taxpayers money. Illinois has approved $224 million to pay for street and transportation upgrades around the planned site of the Obama Presidential Center. The catch is that Illinois taxpayers will have to cover $200 million of that cost. For a presidential museum.

Eight years of multiplying the national debt wasn't enough for Barack Obama. Old fleecing habits die hard. What's another $200 million here and there, especially for something as important as an Obama tribute center?

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That's all well and good except Illinois can't even fund its pension system. The state has a $137 billion funding shortfall. That means every person in Illinois owes $11,000 for pensions, and there is no plan to fix the mess. Unless Illinois progressives have discovered a new kind of math, this doesn't really add up. You can't fund pensions, but you're going to figure out a way to milk the public for another $200 million to help cover the cost of a library?

It's hard to imagine who in their right mind would think this will be money well spent. Well, except for maybe Chicago Mayor and former Obama Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel who said, "The state's… investment in infrastructure improvements near the Obama Center on the South Side of Chicago is money well spent."

Some presidential overreach lasts longer than others.

The spending has already been signed into law, even though the Obama library has not received construction approval yet. Part of the holdup is that the proposed site is on public land in historic Jackson Park. That doesn't seem very progressive of the Obamas, but, you know, for certain presidents, you go above and beyond. It's just what you do. Some presidential overreach lasts longer than others.

Here's the thing about taxing the peasants so the king can build a fancy monument to himself – it's wrong. And completely unnecessary. The Obamas have the richest friends on the planet who could fund this project in their sleep. If the world simply must have a tricked-out Obama museum, then let private citizens take out their wallets voluntarily.

As the Mercury Museum proved this weekend, it is possible to build an exhibit with amazing artifacts that attracts a ton of visitors – and it cost taxpayers approximately zero dollars.