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GLENN: Let's go to Michelle. Hi, Michelle.
MALKIN: Hey, Glenn.
GLENN: How are you?
MALKIN: Good, how are you?
GLENN: Well, if all of these rightwing extremists weren't killing people, you know.
MALKIN: Yeah.
GLENN: It's amazing to me how the media is making, first of all, crazy people into rightwingers and Nazis into rightwingers. They are fascists.
MALKIN: Yeah.
GLENN: I mean, how did fascism become rightwing?
MALKIN: Well, it's interesting how the police Cal compass gets reset and goes out of whack when it serves the narratives and the purposes of the mainstream media. And, you know, it was just a couple of weeks ago that we had these two awful acts of domestic terrorism with George Tiller and with the killer of Private William Long. And I remarked then that the narrative is always that when a so called rightwing vigilante kills, millions of fingers pull the trigger. But when what looks like a leftwing vigilante kills, he kills alone. And this is what's happening again. And you see that the usual suspects, me, you, Fox News, the tea parties, anyone who protests the expansion of government gets indicted along with the lone nut that actually pulls the trigger. And in this case James von Brunn was an equal opportunity hater. This guy is a lifetime loon. You've got the left neat blogosphere and cable TV pointing the finger as you or I were the one that pointed the trigger or implanted in this lunatic's head the racist not just anti Semitic but anti every color, anti Christian for that matter conspiracy theorist of, you know, as if we were the ones responsible for turning this guy into what he has been for most of his adult life.
GLENN: These are the guys that I have been preaching about and saying we have got to be very careful. I've been saying for a long time that these guys are people like these are very dangerous. Two years ago I said that Al Qaeda is going to get into bed. Muslim extremists will get into bed with these militia groups and these rightwing extremists or not rightwing extremists. These militia groups. And they will band together. We have the videotape from, where was it, Saudi Arabia last week or Egypt last week where Al Qaeda was saying that one of the guys who, you know, was meeting with Osama Bin Laden saying we're getting into bed with these militia groups and everything else. There are anarchists and crazy people and that they want to destroy the country and they will do what crazy people do.
MALKIN: Exactly. And anyone who has actually listened to your show or read what I write in my columns or on the blogs knows that, you know, for most of my professional career and I'm sure this is true of you, too, we've done nothing but separate ourselves from these people who have absolutely nothing in common with our readership, with our viewership and with our self. And when they talk and this is the point that you just made they have far more in common with Al Qaeda and the jihadists and home grown terrorists that much of the political left has turned a blind eye towards. And, you know, I go back to the very disparate treatment between the military recruiter attack and the abortion clinic attack and I think that we're seeing this here, too. The wretched excess on the part of these liberals and these partisans to turn this into some sort of political gain, political game for that matter. There's no sobriety on their part. This heroic security guard, Stephen Johns is a hero. We should be coming together in unity to mourn this death and instead you've got the likes of Markos Moulitsas, the head of, you know, the most influential leftwing blog at the Daily Kos exulting in every other Twitter post about how, you know, this is an embarrassment to the rightwing and we're responsible for it. You know, get a grip; grow up.
GLENN: Let me ask you about Jeremiah Wright. You see what he said over the weekend?
MALKIN: Oh, certainly did. Certainly did.
GLENN: The president won't talk to Jeremiah Wright because of them Jews.
MALKIN: Them Jews.
GLENN: Now, when Jeremiah Wright says "Them Jews ain't gonna let him talk to me, an ethnic cleansing is going on in Gaza, ethnic cleansing by the Zionist is a sin and a crime against humanity and they won't want Barack talking like that because they will say that he's anti Israel." What's the difference between the language of an anti Semite that is also nuts and goes, kills people, and the language of Jeremiah Wright?
MALKIN: Yeah. I'd like to hear from some of these people on the left how they explain that away. I'd like to hear from the White House for that matter how he explains that away. I'm certainly glad that President Obama spoke up about the need to be vigilant against anti Semitism yesterday, but where was he when he was sitting in the pews of this virulent anti Semite for almost 20 years and not saying a word about it? And it wasn't, of course, just Jeremiah Wright that spewed this Jew bashing rhetoric. It was pretty much every minister that Barack Obama surrounded himself with, from Michael Pfleger to Eric Lee to, you know, a number of these collared ministers who spoke from the pulpit the same way that James von Brunn did on his hate site.
GLENN: The difference is Jeremiah Wright hasn't gone out and killed anybody. James von Brunn has. Which makes both of them an anti Semite, only one of them a killer.
MALKIN: Right, you know, but of course we haven't killed anyone, either, but we're being indicted for it although we've never spewed this kind of anti Semitic rhetoric and I've always, always condemned it.
GLENN: Let me ask you this, Michelle. I contend that the people in the right, you know, in anyone who is a conservative and on the right traditionally speaking, probably a bigger fan of Israel than anyone on the left, a bigger defender of Israel, a bigger defender of the Jews. I mean, I have a lot of friends who have said to me, "What the hell is wrong with all of the Jewish people? Are they not seeing what's coming again? Are they not seeing it? How can they be in bed with people who are going down the road of anti Semitism?"
MALKIN: Exactly. And that certainly was the internal debate during this last campaign among, you know, Republican Jews who stood by and watched as, you know, their brethren on the left championed somebody who sat in Jeremiah Wright's pews for 20 years. And, you know and I can speak for the right, quote/unquote, on the blogosphere. And time and again we have stood with Israel and with the Jewish people in particular as the rise of anti Semitism that has been stoked by the acceptable jihadist apologist here at home and abroad. And, you know, I recall during the whole Mohammed cartoon controversy that there were very few Jews on the left who stood, for example, with the Denmark cartoonist who did nothing but tell the truth about Mohammed and, you know, in many cases just simply drew innocuous pictures of Mohammed. But again there was a worldwide conflagration, and the rhetoric from these jihadian apologist about the annihilation from Israel, there is one commander in chief of this country who is willing to sit down with the leader of this country that wants to annihilate Israel with a nuclear button, and it's not somebody on the right wings.
GLENN: Michelle, let me get your opinion on how I feel like we're living in 1932 again to where you know that there were people that knew in Germany. You know. And everyone was in denial. I mean, have you read Mein Kampf?
MALKIN: Not all the way through, and I should.
GLENN: Yeah. I've read it, and I read it because I wanted to know did the German people know. The answer is clear: Yes, they knew. They had to have known. And I never understood how they sat by, and I don't understand today, taking this out of a Jewish thing and just looking at it as the direction this country is headed right now, we are headed with what's happening with GM, with what's on the front page of the Wall Street Journal today, Fed e mails bash Bank of America chief in tussle over deal. You have the secretary of the treasury saying the magnitude of losses at Merrill Lynch is breathtaking. They are saying now, the Bank of America chief is saying that he fears lawsuits from shareholders. I don't think that's very likely and I said so but Merrill is really scary and ugly. They lied and pushed Merrill Lynch or pushed Bank of America into this Merrill Lynch deal. They are strong arming every step of the way these businesses. We are headed towards a kind of government that is absolutely unrecognizable in America and yet the American people sit by and are like, well, I guess; I don't know. You've got people who are doing tea parties, you have people who are speaking out, but you don't have the mass population saying, "Wait a minute, don't you see where we're headed?" What is it going to take, Michelle?
MALKIN: You'd like to think that there's been enough already to push millions more people than have already joined the tea party movement. But I think one of the reasons why it's important for us to speak out against what's happening with the left and how they are exploiting awful shootings like yesterday is because, I mean, one of the reasons why people don't want to speak out is because they don't want to be tarred as homicidal maniacs.
GLENN: But that is what you wait until you see this review of you know, I did the comedy tour. I've been doing these comedy tours for years. There's a new review out. The New York Times ripped me apart. Vanity Fair ripped me apart. Time magazine just did a review of it, just came out about an hour ago. They called me an extremist how many times, Stu? Several times they called me an extremist. You know what? You can call me an extremist all you want. All you want. You are not going to frighten me into shutting up. I am not an extremist. I'm an American that believes in the Constitution. And Americans have got to stand up and not be afraid of being called an extremist.
MALKIN: That's exactly right and that's why it's important to do what you're doing and for the untold numbers of people who are individual citizen activists on the grassroots, in the blogosphere. It's not just about Fox News and the tea parties and talk radio. It's about people being unafraid to stand up for their principles in their own neighborhoods and at the grocery store. You know, we've got this massive monumental battle underway now over the government healthcare takeover, and people are afraid to speak out about that. And they cannot be, because this is about their lives, it's about the present, it's about their children's future, it's about their grandchildren's future. And if they wake up in the morning and they feel intimidated or bullied because they are afraid that some MSNBC yacker is going to accuse them of killing people or creating a climate of hate, then they are only writing themselves and their future out of existence.
GLENN: They really are.
MALKIN: You cannot be afraid to do that. You have to be able to endure the ridicule and the mockery and the vitriol because otherwise why did the founding fathers do what they did and why did so many people die to ensure the future of this country if we wake up and we are afraid to do what we do?
GLENN: We are headed towards a McCarthy era. I really believe, I think that I really think that the silence from Washington and the White House is the loudest thing that I've ever heard, the silence of Barack Obama not saying don't tear these people apart. They have a right to do these things in the tea parties, et cetera, et cetera. George Bush was out talking about Cindy Sheehan, I'm wrong, she's wrong, but I support her ability to be able to do that, yada, yada. This is I really think that they are letting things spiral out of control and adding to it intentionally.
MALKIN: You know, that is a really good point about the silence of the White House on this. And if you compare George Bush just as you say, you know, this is a guy who bent over backwards in the weeks after September 11th to talk about how Islam was a religion of peace and invited all of the jihadi friendly and jihadi helper groups to the White House. He brought C.A.R.E. in, he brought the AADC in. Where is Barack Obama to extend an olive branch and to defend the free speech of the likes of you and me and to, you know, to give more than lip service to his so called post partisan stature? No, you don't see that at all, and this is very, very damning. And I think it shows you that he is nothing more than a political, a creature of political expedience. And if it doesn't completely shatter the myth of hope and change, I don't know what does.
GLENN: Well, I mean, you know, you've got David Letterman making fun of Sarah Palin's children. When are we going to call children off limits? When is that finally going to happen? When are people let me tell you something. David Letterman, the guy's going to be done because he's going to alienate. He's going to create, he's going to paint himself into the Katie Couric box to where everybody's like, "Well, I know exactly who this guy is," and he will alienate himself from half of the population. Michelle, I've got to run but thank you so much.
MALKIN: Thanks a lot, Glenn.
GLENN: You bet. We'll talk again. All right, what did you say? Oh, you can read her latest article at MichelleMalkin.com.
