Glenn Beck talks with Brad Thor



The Apostle


by Brad Thor

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GLENN: Let me go to Brad Thor who is coming in in just about 13 minutes and he's going to be doing a special program for the Insiders at GlennBeck.com. How are you doing, Brad?

THOR: I'm doing well, Glenn, how are you?

GLENN: Very well. Brad's one of my favorite fiction thriller writers. When is your new book coming out?

THOR: Comes out in less than two weeks, the apostle.

GLENN: The apostle? This is the one where you went over to Afghanistan, right?

THOR: It is.

GLENN: And you lied to me as a friend?

THOR: I lied to everybody because I didn't want you know, you are one of the people who would have said, go, have a good time, you are one of the professionals. I went over and chatted for the bedrock of this thriller and one of the things they said was obviously you've got to tell your wife but if any more people you tell than that, you were going to spend the next three months having them say, what, are you crazy? Don't go. Because I live in Chicago, they figure out

GLENN: Yeah, don't go back to Chicago; what, are you crazy? What do you mean you're going back to Chicago? Stay in Afghanistan!

So did you find over there?

THOR: You know what, it's very interesting. By being with some guys who are working on the black side, we were not operating on an operating basis. We were going out into Indian country, saw Taliban, all that kind of stuff. What I found is the Afghans are amazing people. Afghanistan's an incredible country, and we need to get men and women out into the countryside developing relationships on the village level so that we can find out, hey, you know, Ahmed's got a bomb factory down the road here and he's going to set these IEDs off along this one particular road and wait for the next American envoy to come through. The intel's not going to walk into the bases. That's one of the biggest things that I learned there.

GLENN: How safe are our troops under this administration, where we just sold $108 billion line of credit for the photos of Abu Ghraib? Did you know that?

THOR: I have listen, we are projecting weakness left, right and center. I'm a big believer Ralph Peters, who is a military person for Fox, Ralph had a great, great article a couple of years ago called Kill, Don't Capture. And I am a big fan of that. We extend we hobbled ourselves with the way we conduct our affairs in warfare.

GLENN: Do you think we're over in Iran?

THOR: I think we should be. My goodness.

GLENN: Yeah, I know we were under Bush.

THOR: I mean, Bob Baer would be the perfect guy to ask that question. And I'm sure we've got people over there but, boy, I tell you they ought to be loading up private jets and getting them as close to the border as we can and putting our CIA operatives in there. The time is right to be doing something.

GLENN: So let me play it the other way because I had a guy who do you know what CAG is?

THOR: Yep.

GLENN: Those are the Mission Impossible people.

THOR: I just had dinner with a CAG guy two nights ago. These are the guys who were sent in, in situations like this. These are the guys. At least this is the circle that when things are going down, these guys go in when the time is right and just push a little bit.

THOR: Right, help destabilize and just push.

GLENN: Had a guy sat with tears running down his cheeks saying, these are the circles I play in, played in them for years. We watch the news. We know. We know, when I see things in other countries, I know we're going in. Now is the time. I've done it for years. Tears start rolling down his cheeks and he says, "Other countries are doing that to us right now. They are looking at the news and seeing us and go, go in."

THOR: Absolutely.

GLENN: Do you think they are here?

THOR: I have no doubts. I think they're here. I think some of them even hold public office. That's how serious I am about it.

GLENN: You hang on just a second. You're saying foreign operatives hold office?

THOR: I think we have people here who hold office who are under the influence of foreign operatives. I don't think it's a lot but I think there are a handful of them. I think they have been here for a while. You know this whole idea that we were not going to turn to socialism overnight but we were going to do it drop by drop like water on a stone, spoonful by spoonful. Listen, if you understand and Glenn, I've got to tell you one of the neatest things about becoming friends with you has been my desire to learn more about politics, the history of my country. You know, your admission, your frank admission that it was 9/11 turned you, you started reading a lot more. I have felt like I was in a car circling the parking lot looking for a parking space waiting to get to the park. So Liberal Fascism, read it. 5,000 Year Leap, the Conservative Mind, I've gone on and on and on and on. And the more I learn about constitutional democracy and what we have versus the progressive agenda, socialism, which I believe is the end goal of the Democratic Party.

GLENN: Absolutely.

THOR: I really do believe that's what it is. They have both come

GLENN: It's not socialism. It's progressivism. It's administered socialism.

THOR: It's statism.

GLENN: Yeah, it's fascism. If it hadn't been for Mussolini and the whole, you know, hanging by piano wire and Hitler thing, we would still be using the word "Fascism" for what they want.

THOR: Well, look at the cover that Hitler got here from the intelligence here, the elites.

GLENN: Absolutely.

THOR: He's just a he needs to help Germany get back on its feet.

GLENN: Do you know, we have all these czars?

THOR: Yeah.

GLENN: Do you know what they were called back under FDR?

THOR: No. What were they called?

GLENN: Dictators. Not kidding you, actually called dictators. There was the dictator of lumber, there was the dictator of cars.

THOR: Really?

GLENN: Swear to God, called dictators. And yet these same progressives now will say we were never in love with fascism. Dictators, that's ridiculous. No, no, they loved that system until it was discredited.

THOR: Well, and what you see, Glenn, I'm always looking to connect the dots and what I see is you've got this group that think they are smarter than everybody else. The common concern can't do it for themselves, they're smarter, which is why Obama has were you told in quote/unquote smart people who have no experience to do what they are going to do for this country.

GLENN: Exactly right. Back in just a second.

Carter Page, a former advisor to Donald Trump's 2016 presidential campaign, found himself at the center of the Russia probe and had his reputation and career destroyed by what we now know were lies from our own intelligence system and the media.

On the TV show Thursday, Page joined Glenn Beck to speak out about how he became the subject of illegal electronic surveillance by the FBI for more than two years, and revealed the extent of the corruption that has infiltrated our legal systems and our country as a whole.

"To me, the bigger issue is how much damage this has done to our country," Page told Glenn. "I've been very patient in trying to ... find help with finding solutions and correcting this terrible thing which has happened to our country, our judicial system, DOJ, FBI -- these once-great institutions. And my bigger concern is the fact that, although we keep taking these steps forward in terms of these important findings, it really remains the tip of the iceberg."

Page was referencing the report by Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz, which revealed that the FBI made "at least 17 significant errors or omissions" in its Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) applications for warrants to spy on Page, a U.S. citizen.

"I think this needs to be attacked from all angles," Glenn said. "The one angle I'm interested in from you is, please tell me you have the biggest badass attorneys that are hungry, starving, maybe are a little low to pay their Mercedes payments right now, and are just gearing up to come after the government and the media. Are they?"

I can confirm that that is the case," Page replied.

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On Wednesday's TV show, Glenn Beck sat down with radio show host, author, political commentator, and film critic, Michael Medved.

Michael had an interesting prediction for the 2020 election outcome: a brokered convention by the DNC will usher in former First Lady Michelle Obama to run against President Donald Trump.

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On Thursday's "Glenn Beck Radio Program," BlazeTV's White House correspondent Jon Miller described the current situation in Virginia after Gov. Ralph Northam (D) declared a state of emergency and banned people carrying guns at Capitol Square just days before a pro-Second-Amendment rally scheduled on Martin Luther King Jr. Day.

Jon told Glenn that Gov. Northam and the Virginia Legislature are "trying to deprive the people of their Second Amendment rights" but the citizens of Virginia are "rising up" to defend their constitutional rights.

"I do think this is the flashpoint," Jon said. "They [Virginia lawmakers] are saying, 'You cannot exercise your rights ... and instead of trying to de-escalate the situation, we are putting pressure. We're trying to escalate it and we're trying to enrage the citizenry even more'."

Glenn noted how Gov. Northam initially blamed the threat of violence from Antifa for his decision to ban weapons but quickly changed his narrative to blame "white supremacists" to vilify the people who are standing up for the Second Amendment and the Constitution.

"What he's doing is, he's making all all the law-abiding citizens of Virginia into white supremacists," Glenn said.

"Sadly, that's exactly right," Jon replied. "And I think he knows exactly what he's doing."

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Ryan: Trump Louisiana Finale

Photo by Jim Dale

Part One. Part Two. Part Three.

At the end of Trump rallies, I would throw on my Carhartt jacket, sneak out of the press area, then blend in with everyone as they left, filing out through swinging doors.

Often, someone held the door open for me. Just 30 minutes earlier, the same person had most likely had most likely hissed at me for being a journalist. And now they were Sunday smiles and "Oh, yes, thank you, sir" like some redneck concierge.

People flooded out of the arena with the stupidity of a fire drill mishap, desperate to survive.

The air smacked you as soon as you crossed the threshold, back into Louisiana. And the lawn was a wasteland of camping chairs and coolers and shopping bags and to-go containers and soda cans and articles of clothing and even a few tents.

In Monroe, in the dark, the Trump supporters bobbled over mounds of waste like elephants trying to tiptoe. And the trash was as neutral to them as concrete or grass. They plodded over it because it, an object, had somehow gotten in their way.

It did not matter that they were responsible for this wreckage.Out in the sharp-edged moonlight, rally-goers hooted and yapped and boogied and danced, and the bbq food truck was all smoke and paper plates.

They were even more pumped than they had been before the rally, like 6,000 eight year olds who'd been chugging Mountain Dew for hours. Which made Donald Trump the father, the trooper, God of the Underworld, Mr. Elite, Sheriff on high horse, the AR-15 sticker of the family.

Ritualistic mayhem, all at once. And, there in Louisiana, Trump's supporters had gotten a taste of it. They were all so happy. It bordered on rage.

Still, I could not imagine their view of America. Worse, after a day of strange hostilities, I did not care.

My highest priority, my job as a reporter, was to care. To understand them and the world that they inhabit. But I did not give a damn and I never wanted to come back.

Worst of all, I would be back. In less than a week.

Was this how dogs felt on the 4th of July? Hunched in a corner while everyone else gets drunk and launches wailing light into the sky? configurations of blue and red and white.

It was 10:00 p.m. and we'd been traveling since 11:00 a.m., and we still had 5 hours to go and all I wanted was a home, my home, any home, just not here, in the cold sweat of this nowhere. Grey-mangled sky. No evidence of planes or satellites or any proof of modern-day. Just century-old bridges that trains shuffled over one clack at a time.

And casinos, all spangles and neon like the 1960s in Las Vegas. Kitchy and dumb, too tacky for lighthearted gambling. And only in the nicer cities, like Shreveport, which is not nice at all.

And swamp. Black water that rarely shimmered. Inhabited by gadflies and leeches and not one single fish that was pretty.

Full of alligators, and other killing types. The storks gnawing on frogs, the vultures never hungry. The coyotes with nobody to stop them and so much land to themselves. The roaches in the wild, like tiny wildebeests.

Then, the occasional deer carcass on the side of the road, eyes splayed as if distracted, tongue out, relaxed but empty. The diseased willows like skeletons in hairnets. The owls that never quit staring. A million facets of wilderness that would outlive us all.

Because Nature has poise. It thrives and is original.

Because silence is impossible. Even in an anechoic chamber, perfectly soundproofed, you can hear your own heartbeat, steady as a drum. A never-ending war.

I put "Headache" by Grouper on repeat as we glided west. We were deadlocked to asphalt, rubber over tarface.

And I thought about lines from a Rita Dove poem titled "I have been a stranger in a strange land"

He was off cataloging the universe, probably,
pretending he could organize
what was clearly someone else's chaos.

Wasn't that exactly what I was doing? Looking for an impossible answer, examining every single accident, eager for meaning? telling myself, "If it happens and matters the next year, in America, I want to be there, or to know what it means. I owe it to whoever cares to listen."

Humans are collectors and I had gone overboard.

Because maybe this wasn't even my home. These landmarks, what did they mean? Was I obvious here? When I smiled, did I trick them into believing that I felt some vague sense of approval? Or did my expressions betray me?

Out in all that garbage-streaked emptiness — despite the occasional burst of passing halogen — I couldn't tell if everything we encountered was haunted or just old, derelict, broken, useless. One never-ending landfill.

Around those parts, they'd made everything into junk. Homes. Roads. Glass. Nature. Life itself, they made into junk.

I cringed as we passed yet another deer carcass mounded on the side of the road.

As written in Job 35:11,

Who teaches us more than the beasts of the earth and makes us wiser than the birds in the sky?

Nobody. Look at nature and you feel something powerful. Look at an animal, in all of its untamable majesty, and you capture a deep love, all swept up in the power of creation. But, here, all I saw were poor creatures who people had slammed into and kept driving. Driving to where? For what reason? What exactly was so important that they left a trail of dead animals behind them?

So I crossed myself dolorously and said an "Our Father" and recited a stanza from Charles Bukowski's "The Laughing Heart"

you can't beat death but
you can beat death in life, sometimes.
and the more often you learn to do it,
the more light there will be.

Out here, nothing but darkness. Needing some light, by God. Give me something better than a Moon that hides like an underfed coward.

Jade told me about some of the more traumatic things she'd seen while working at the State Fair.

"Bro, they pull roaches out of the iced lemonade jugs and act like nothing happened."

"All right but what about the corn dogs?"

"You do not want to know, little bro."

She looked around in the quiet. "Back in the day, the Louisiana Congress refused to raise the drinking age from 18 to 21," she said. "They didn't want to lose all that drunk gambler money. So the federal government cut off funding to highways."

We glided through moon-pale landscape for an hour before I realized what she had meant. That there weren't any light poles or billboards along the road. Nothing to guide us or distract us. Just us, alone. And it felt like outer space had collapsed, swallowed us like jellybeans.

Like two teenagers playing a prank on the universe.

In the cozy Subaru Crosstrek, in the old wild night, brimming with the uncertainty of life and the nonchalance of failure, we paraded ourselves back to Dallas. Alive in the river silence that follows us everywhere.

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