Glenn talks with Daniel Silva



The Defector by Daniel Silva


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GLENN: From Radio City in Midtown Manhattan, third most listened to show in all of America. Hello, you sick twisted freak. Welcome to the program. As you know if you are a long time listener of this program, I read an awful lot and I read a lot of really, really excruciatingly boring books because I have to. It's like eat your broccoli. And then I will read at night usually a novel, and I go through a ton of them. And there are a few that I really, really love. One that is is this coming out today, Daniel? It is. On sale today. It is called The Defector by Daniel Silva. And it is absolutely fantastic. I think I got it, what, about a month or so ago. And I read it. One of those books you are just not going to be able to put down. There are a few books every year that I read because I have such a mass volume I have to get through that I do my own speed reading which I like to call cheating. You know, I kind of look down the page and I go, I got it, I got it. The next page, I got it, I got it. This one I read word for word. It is absolutely fantastic. And a continuation, you don't really have to understand I mean, you did a really good job of setting up the last book.

SILVA: The last book was Moscow Rules. It was my first number one best seller.

GLENN: Congratulations.

SILVA: I have you to thank for that.

GLENN: I doubt that.

SILVA: I beg to differ. And this book is truly a sequel to that book. I felt that this story had to continue. But I made certain I structured it in a way that it stood up on itself.

GLENN: Yeah, you can pick this one up and read this one and then go back and read the other one and nothing will be spoiled. But it's really a fantastic book. And the reason I wanted to talk to you a little bit is I've been looking into Russia an awful lot and I know that you are kind of a Russian guy, a Russian expert if you will and I want to spend a few minutes on talking to you about a couple of things. One, do you think we're headed towards an oligarchy. And two, you know, compare and contrast what Russia has going on right now and what we seem to be headed towards. And two and maybe we'll start here. A couple of weeks ago I was thinking that these the former Soviet Union, the dissolution, dissolving of that didn't bother me at the time but has really bothered me in the last few years because it just went away. And where were all these old communists? Where did they all go?

SILVA: They went, they melted back in, into the you know, one of the great crimes really is that no one was punished for their sins. I mean, this was a murderous, murderous regime that enslaved and imprisoned their people and, you know, the number of people who died because of Joseph Stalin, for example, we'll probably never know the true number. But really no one was ever truly called to account for it and I think that

GLENN: No. And our history books have erased it really.

SILVA: Well, they are engaged in a process right now of truly sanitizing their history and rewriting their history books to put a much more positive spin on their history.

GLENN: Stalin is becoming popular again, is he not?

SILVA: He's quite popular. Putin is extremely popular obviously, but Stalin remains a near mythical figure in Russia, and it's something that I deal with as a sub text for the novel. I truly believe that until the Russians can face their past honestly that they are doomed to repeat aspects of it. And I think they are right now. I mean, as if we needed another example of what happens in modern Russia if you oppose the Kremlin. We got another example a few days ago with this very courageous human rights worker, Natalya Estemirova was kidnapped and shot to death in Chechnya. So anyone who dares to criticize the Kremlin right now really puts a bull's eye on their own back.

GLENN: I don't think that we're not an oligarchy now. We're not a fascistic state, we're not a socialist state right now. I don't

SILVA: We're not a corporate state like they are.

GLENN: I don't think we're anything, quite honestly. We're not capitalist right now.

SILVA: I think that we are

GLENN: We're in a transition stage.

SILVA: I think our core faith in capitalism was shaken obviously by the financial crisis and the meltdown and it was very

GLENN: No, no. No, I don't think so.

SILVA: You don't think

GLENN: I don't think so. I think there are

SILVA: No, no. It was shaken temporarily and there were you know, as, after the election and that period of euphoria after Barack Obama's election, there were those wonderful magazine covers like on Newsweek and time where, are we socialist.

GLENN: Yeah, we're socialist.

SILVA: And I thought for a moment maybe I had moved to another country or that I had completely lost touch with what Americans think. And I firmly believe that we remain a center right country.

GLENN: Yes.

SILVA: And I believe that President Obama's falling poll numbers and approval ratings probably reflect the fact that he's starting to bump up against that when it comes to healthcare in particular.

GLENN: Daniel, in the book The Defector you have what's the name of the central villain? He's fantastic.

SILVA: His name is Ivan Kharkov.

GLENN: Talk a little bit about him.

SILVA: Ivan Kharkov is what I would describe as a loyal oligarch. They were the original oligarchs remember, the men that took the old refuse of the Soviet Union and when it was put up for sale and they were able to buy things at bargain basement prices and become billionaires virtually overnight. Most of those guys were driven out by Putin because when he was elected in 1999, he wanted the old order gone because they posed a challenge to him. There are new oligarchs now and they are what is described as loyal oligarchs and my villain Ivan Kharkov would definitely be considered a loyal oligarch. Inside his financial empire is a very lucrative and dangerous arms trafficking network.

GLENN: Okay. I think that we are developing new oligarchs here in America and not necessarily with people but with industry. GE is a very loyal oligarchic, if that's a word, entity to Barack Obama. Agree or disagree?

SILVA: I'm going to be outside my expertise. I would put my foot in it. We are not like the Russian oligarchs. There is a lot of daylight between American capitalism and Russian capitalism right now.

GLENN: No, no, and I agree with that. My question to you is did not the Soviet Union we think we put it out of business, and we did, along with Margaret Thatcher and really even Osama Bin Laden, the pressure he put on them. Then we used that pressure, we spent them into oblivion with Ronald Reagan. I mean, we did a great job. But it wasn't just the United States. But we also, what we fail to understand is we didn't put them out of business overnight. Gorbachev saw the writing on the wall and he started moving towards the more open society and then it was Boris Yeltsin who came to and made a deal in the middle of the forest in the middle of the night and said, look, we're going to be the Russian federation. Then brought it to parliament or whatever it's called over there and said, I can save you.

SILVA: Put a stake in the old Soviet Union.

GLENN: Right. I can save you if we transform. And I think that's where we're headed.

SILVA: Well, the folly of what happened to the old Soviet Union is we thought that we could take almost a century of Soviet history and centuries, millennia of Russian history that we're going to snap our fingers and that a modern, normal country was going to emerge. And, you know, I have news for you. Russia is not a normal country and it's not going to be a normal country anytime soon. I laugh every time I see the G 8 and I see the Russian leaders standing there like he's a member of the club because, you know, I'm someone that thinks that they probably need to be outside the structure of the G 8, for example, until they get their act together internally. That will be the G 7 plus Russia, China and Brazil. But, you know, if they want to be a member of the club, they need to start acting like a member of the club internally.

GLENN: Isn't the United States the for anybody that wants to transform the United States, don't they face the same except the opposite direction, the same problem? When we brought down the Soviet empire, we just think people want to be free, they just want to rule themselves, they just want to be left alone, they want to be entrepreneurs, they want to just go, go, go, go, and they don't want all that structure above them. Anybody who thinks that they are going to transform the United States

SILVA: Overnight.

GLENN: Yeah, overnight, wouldn't that be the well, when you say overnight, I mean even Gorbachev to Yeltsin. What was that, 10 years?

SILVA: Yes. Not quite.

GLENN: We're the same we would face the same problem. Somebody who says I'm going to make this big oppressive state and I'm going to plan centrally everything that's going to go on, you'll never make this succeed because the American spirit is the exact opposite. The Russians went back and they are like, protect me, take care of me, help me out. You know

SILVA: Very paternal, they are used to a paternalistic state structure. The state is near religious in Russia. So they are used to a paternalistic, strong czarist government. I think that if Vladimir Putin bears a resemblance to powerful leaders of the past, it is not Joseph Stalin. It is a czar. He is a new czar. He has amassed incredible personal wealth apparently. And Russians are very comfortable with this. And let's try to walk in their shoes for a minute. The Nineties were unbelievably chaotic. They made and lost fortunes overnight. No rule of law. Very little just basic civil society in Russia. And Putin was able to come in and pose a certain amount of stability in Russia. And we can't underestimate what that means to the Russian people.

GLENN: When you went over to Russia, you've gone over to Russia for this book examines The Defector today. It's a great book.

SILVA: I have not gone over to Russia to research The Defector.

GLENN: You didn't?

SILVA: And I love Moscow. There is a vibe to that place that I love and that inspired me.

GLENN: I always wanted to go. Nobody will go with me.

SILVA: When I looked at the new state treason laws that the Russians are putting in place, Draconian new state treason laws and I looked at all of the interviews that I conducted when I was researching Moscow Rules, without doubt virtually all of them could be considered treasonous under the interpretation of these new laws and I just didn't quite feel the same.

GLENN: In what way? In what way?

SILVA: Because in terms of Russian people talking to foreigners. The Russian the Kremlin and the FSB believe that we are trying to spy the daylights out of them. I hope we are because they are trying to spy the daylights out of us.

GLENN: Sure.

SILVA: They have great mistrust of people who go over there and talk about things like human rights and democracy. I think what they fear the most is that we're going to have one of these colored revolutions, an orange revolution inside, inside Russia. That's why they go to so much trouble to try to tamp down the effect of these revolutions in eastern Europe. And so they are very distrustful of outsiders and Americans right now.

GLENN: Did you look into the eyes of Vladimir Putin at any time and see a good friend?

SILVA: No. I did hire, when I was there, the guy, the Russian speaking guy that I kept with me at all times was a Putin double. He could have been Putin's Dopple Gang or the figure in Madame Tussauds' wax museum. It was striking. So as I was going about my research for Moscow Rules, I was accompanied by Mr. Putin everywhere, or so it seemed.

GLENN: The name of the book is The Defector by Daniel Silva. It is a fantastic new book. It's ought today. I want to show you, Pat, do you have in your audio vault, do you have the video? And we should include this in our free e mail newsletter today. This is something I asked John Bolton to comment on and he says to me and I'm going to show it to you. He says to me that Obama's not trying to shake the hands of all of the advisors of Medvedev. I can't see it that way. Are you running it? Okay, go ahead. Pat, explain what it is as he's watching it.



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PAT: Okay. Here's Obama, Medvedev, and they are walking up to a group of Russian officials and Obama extends his hand; nobody shakes it. Extends it again, puts it down, brings it back up. Nobody will shake it.

GLENN: Now, John Bolton says to me, "He's not trying to shake anybody's hands." I said, that's not John, how can you say that? Look at that. I want to include this in the free e mail newsletter today, GlennBeck.com. If you are not a subscriber, go to GlennBeck.com and see this. What are you thinking?

SILVA: I've never seen that tape before.

GLENN: This just happened when he was over in Russia.

SILVA: As we were talking during the break, one thing that you didn't see that you've seen on every other previous Obama trip abroad is people lining the streets to catch a glimpse of him, people wanting to hear the speech. And Obama did make a President Obama did make an important speech while he was in Russia at the graduation of the new economic school. Most Russians don't know about it. Why? Because Vladimir Putin made sure it was not on state run television. And, you know, we have

GLENN: Why?

SILVA: Why? Because he wanted to make sure that he controlled the content, and he was nervous about what President Obama might say. And he was mildly critical of Russia's human rights record. And we cannot underestimate how anti American Russia is right now.

GLENN: So what do you I'll send you home because you are going to be on the TV show tonight. I'll send you with this video so you can look at it again, maybe pass it by some of your friends. You tell me what you think this means. Do you think this is was he clearly trying to shake the hands of these people?

SILVA: I've never seen anyone walk like that who wasn't trying to shake the hands of someone. I've never seen this video before. It is shocking. It is obvious and it is obvious the message that these people are trying to send our president on their soil. And they did it in many other subtle ways that sort of went below the radar including not putting the speech on television.

GLENN: Okay, we'll talk about that. Daniel Silva, new book is The Defector. It's in bookstores everywhere. It's a novel. It's a thriller. It is absolutely fantastic. You will see the inner workings of Russia in a really, really exciting way. You can pick it up at bookstores everywhere. And we'll see you tonight. And I want to put we'll play this again and I want you to tell me what you think, on television. And if you would like, if you can't join us for the TV show tonight at 5:00, we'll put this in our free e mail newsletter so you can see it. It is truly shocking video.

The Senate Judiciary Committee was set to vote on subpoenas to compel Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey and Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg to testify on alleged censorship and bias across their platforms. But that all changed when Republican committee members "expressed reservation about the maneuver," Politico reports.

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), who chairs Judiciary's Subcommittee on the Constitution, was definitely not one of the committee members with cold feet. On the radio program Tuesday, he told Glenn Beck that he's fighting "vociferously" to ensure Dorsey and others testify before the November 3rd election.

"Jack Dorsey and Mark Zuckerberg are both going to testify. They're are going to testify in person. They're going to testify before Election Day. That's what I think should happen," Cruz said. "That's what I'm fighting vociferously to happen. Right now, the companies are negotiating with the chairman's office to discuss terms to come voluntarily. I don't give a damn whether they come voluntarily or under subpoena. They need to testify in person and answer questions for the American people about why they are trying to steal this election, to suppress the free speech, and to censor the press."

The subpoenas would require Big Tech leaders to testify on the alleged "suppression and/or censorship" of two consecutive blockbuster stories from the New York Post. The first story was about emails that allegedly came from Hunter Biden's computer which are currently being investigated by the FBI, and the second was based on additional emails that allegedly showed communist China directly offering millions of dollars to then-Vice President Joe Biden.

"Big Tech stepped in, and they've done something they've never done before," Cruz explained. "We know that Big Tech has been censoring individual conservatives, trying to suppress conservative speech. But the step they took here is, they blocked if any individual user tried to share either of the New York Post stories, [they] were blocked ... Sharing a news story, from a major media outlet is part of democracy, part of free speech. And not only that, they blocked the New York Post itself. Right now, today, the New York Post is not being allowed to post its own damn stories on corruption. This is ridiculous. It's a threshold that's never been crossed before, of Silicon Valley oligarchs declaring the authority to determine what the press is allowed to report, and who is allowed to see it."

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If we learned nothing from the media over the past 4 years it's that colluding with a foreign entity to either win an election or for personal gain is absolutely grotesque. Well, that depends on whether you have a (D) or (R) before your name anyway. President Trump was impeached on rumor and innuendo yet Joe Biden has all but skated on his corruption up to this point.

Below is a timeline that shows the level of corruption and the lengths the Biden's went to in order to build that family's wealth and influence internationally.

2009

In 2009, Joe Biden was the brand-new Vice President and John Kerry was a U.S. Senator. Just five months after Joe was sworn in, his son Hunter, and Kerry's stepson, Christopher Heinz, formed an international private equity firm called Rosemont Capital. It had several different branches, including one called Rosemont Seneca Partners.

2010

Just nine months after Rosemont Seneca opened its doors, Hunter Biden went to China for meetings with executives from China's biggest banks, and its sovereign wealth and social security funds. That's unheard-of access for a brand-new firm. Was it just coincidence that at the same time Hunter was meeting these Chinese bigwigs, his dad was meeting with China's then-president Hu Jintao in Washington DC at a nuclear security summit?

2011

In May 2011, Joe Biden met with Chinese officials for the U.S.-China Strategic & Economic Dialogue conference in Washington. Just two weeks later, Hunter Biden went to Taiwan for meetings with the same Chinese financial giants he'd met in China in 2010, plus some new ones.

2013

By December 2013, Joe Biden was enjoying his second term as VP, and John Kerry was now Secretary of State. That's when Joe traveled to Beijing on an extended official trip and Hunter traveled with him on Air Force Two.

During their stay, Vice President Biden met with President Xi and Hunter was mostly out of sight. We don't know exactly what he was up to, but the deal finalized between Rosemont Seneca and the Bank of China just ten days after the Bidens' trip pretty much gives it away. The most powerful financial institution in China formed a joint venture with tiny Rosemont Seneca to create a giant new investment firm called Bohai Harvest RST – the "RS" stands for Rosemont Seneca.

The firm is often called "BHR" for short.

Hunter Biden was a member of the Board. Remember, the Bank of China is government-owned, which means its business is completely intertwined with the goals of the Chinese Communist Party. BHR also got the freedom to operate in the newly created Shanghai Free-Trade Zone where, over the next six years, it would use $2.5 billion of Chinese government money to invest in China, as well as in other countries, including the U.S.

During their Beijing trip, Hunter also introduced Jonathan Li to his dad. Li is Hunter's business partner – he's CEO and Director of BHR.

Hunter arranged for Joe to meet Li in the lobby of the hotel where they stayed during their Beijing trip.

2014

In 2014, one of BHR's first major investments was in the China General Nuclear Power Corporation.

CGN is a Chinese government-owned nuclear power company that sold off a stake of the company to outside investors. Problem is, CGN was under FBI investigation for paying informants in the U.S. to steal nuclear secrets.

In 2016, the FBI arrested the ringleader of this nuclear espionage, a man named Allen Ho.

When they arrested Ho, he was using a random code generator to access funds being provided to him from – where else? – the Bank of China.

Yet while this FBI probe was going on, the son of the Vice President owned a stake in the company being investigated. And even after arrests were made, Rosemont Seneca did not alter its relationship with BHR, nor did it divest from CGN, even though it was stealing U.S. nuclear secrets.

2015

In 2015, BHR partnered with the Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC) to buy an American company called Henniges for $600 million.

AVIC is a gigantic military contractor in China – think Lockheed Martin – that makes fighter jets, bombers and drones. BHR bought 49% of Henniges and AVIC bought 51%.

Henniges is a precision parts manufacturer specializing in anti-vibration technology. The stuff they make is known as "dual use" by the U.S. State Department, which means the technology can also have a military application.

Because of that, the deal had to be approved by the Committee on Foreign Investment in the U.S. (CFIUS) since it could have national security implications. The thing is, the American side of BHR – meaning Hunter Biden and his pals – had to know there were serious national security implications with AVIC.

The year before they formed a partnership with AVIC, the Wall Street Journal reported how AVIC stole technology related to the U.S. Air Force's F-35 stealth fighter and used it in its own stealth fighter for the Chinese.

How the Committee on Foreign Investment approved that deal remains a mystery. CFIUS does not publicly disclose any information regarding its decisions. Their findings are not publicly announced.

Interesting that China accounted for the largest share – with 74 transactions – approved by CFIUS during Obama's second term (2013-2015).

Under the umbrella of Rosemont Capital was a real estate company called Rosemont Realty. In 2015, a Chinese company called Gemini Investments bought a 75% stake in Rosemont Realty. The company was renamed Gemini Rosemont

Gemini brought $3 billion to the partnership with Rosemont, with the aim of buying "Class A institutional-quality commercial office properties in U.S. markets."

Red flag (literally) – Gemini Investments is a subsidiary of the China Ocean Shipping Company, a.k.a., "COSCO."

COSCO is a Chinese government-owned company. Its headquarters in Beijing is actually next to the headquarters of the Bank of China. COSCO is well-known for its close military ties. It's essentially a branch of the Chinese Navy.

2017

In 2017, BHR invested in Face++. That's the facial recognition phone app built by a Chinese company that is incorporated in a separate app built by the Chinese government. Police in the Xinjiang [Sin-jong] region of China use that app to keep tabs on citizens, and track and detain Uiguhr [Wee-ger] Muslims.

The app allows police easy access to data about Chinese Muslims including things like religious activity, blood type, and even the amount of electricity they use.

2018

In March 2018, a spokesman (Chris Bastardi) for Christopher Heinz (John Kerry's stepson) emailed The Hill to say that Heinz had "no operating role" in Rosemont Seneca, and that he was not involved in any of Rosemont's deals in China (which contradicts Schweizer's report in his book Secret Empires).

Chris Heinz was involved in Rosemont Capital. Rosemont Seneca was established under the same GP as Rosemont Capital, but Chris Heinz had no operating role in it. Chris and his family have no financial interest or investment in Bohai Harvest RST, he has never traveled to China, and he has never met with the firm's Chinese management team or investors.

2019

In October 2019, Hunter Biden's lawyer, George Mesires, said Hunter did not conduct any business on that 2013 trip to Beijing with his Dad.

Mesires said the timing of BHR's business license getting approved was purely coincidental because the paperwork had been submitted months before the Bidens' China trip.

According to Hunter's lawyer, the approval " was not related in any way, shape or form to Hunter's visit."

Hunter Biden finally stepped down from the BHR board last October (2019), but he DID NOT give up his 10% stake in the company.

When Bevan Cooney — the former "junior" business partner to Hunter Biden and Devon Archer — went to jail in 2019, investigative reporter and New York Times bestselling author Peter Schweizer thought he'd never gain access to the damning emails Cooney had promised. That all changed three weeks ago when Schweizer was given complete access to Cooney's gmail account.

Schweizer joined Glenn Beck on the radio program Tuesday to describe just some of the business deals revealed within these emails — like Hunter working with an alleged Russian criminal and with Chinese communists to secure their assets, or to secure one-on-one time with his dad, then-Vice President Joe Biden. And all of this new information is completely separate from the emails allegedly discovered on Hunter Biden's laptop recently reported by the New York Post.

"So, I want to make this clear. This [Cooney's emails] has nothing to do with what's on the laptop … It didn't come from [Rudy] Giuliani. It didn't come from anybody else, right?" Glenn asked Schweizer.

"That's absolutely correct," Schweizer confirmed.

He briefly explained how Cooney, a former Los Angeles nightclub owner, is currently serving a prison sentence for his involvement in a fraudulent business bond scheme with Biden and Archer. From prison, Cooney gave Schweizer written permission to access his Gmail account.

"This is really important," he noted. "We're not looking at printouts. Not looking at PDFs. We're actually in his Gmail accounts themselves, sifting through these emails. And there's a shocking amount of information about deals involving China, involving Russia, involving all sorts of things they were trying to pull off."

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The king of "No Spin" and bestselling author of "Killing Crazy Horse," Bill O'Reilly joined Glenn Beck on this week's podcast to talk about the latest developments in Joe Biden's Ukraine and China corruption scandal. Now that some of the details are finally coming out in the open, does the average Democrat care? Maybe, but the Left doesn't seem to.

O'Reilly argued there's more hatred for President Donald Trump now than in 2016, and that some people hate President Trump so much that they'd rather vote for the "senile, corrupt" Joe Biden.

"Hunter got tens of millions of dollars from Ukraine, from Russia, from China because his father was vice president. I have no doubt in my mind," O'Reilly said. "But the hatred for Donald Trump overrides that in the minds of millions of viewers. They're saying, 'You know, we'd rather have the senile corrupt guy than Trump.'"

Asked by Glenn if any other Republican running for president would be met with the same level of vitriol, O'Reilly answered, "The Left is the Left. They don't like America. The want to redo the Constitution. They want to take some of our freedoms, like the Second Amendment and the First Amendment, and change them. And they want to destroy capitalism and replace it with a big centralized government in Washington that controls the economy … but I'm talking about the folks. I have liberal friends and I say to them, 'Do you not understand that when you vote for Biden, you're voting against your own self interest?'"

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