Culture of Corruption: Obama and His Team of Tax Cheats, Crooks, and Cronies by Michelle Malkin
GLENN: From Radio City in Midtown Manhattan, this is the third most listened to show in all of America. Hello, you sick twisted freak. Welcome to the program. Michelle Malkin is with us. She's got a new book out called the Culture of Corruption: Obama and His Team of Tax Cheats, Crooks, and Cronies. Michelle Malkin, welcome to the program.
MALKIN: Thanks for having me, Glenn.
GLENN: Can I ask you a question, Michelle?
GLENN: And you have to please feel free to answer honestly because there may come a quiz after this. Do you ever watch the TV show?
MALKIN: Absolutely do.
GLENN: Do you?
GLENN: This ACORN thing, does it scare because I know you have some of it in your book. He is building a he is building a structure around the Constitution and around the republic and he's using the republic as a host. It's feasting on this system and it's going to kill it, do you think?
MALKIN: I think that analogy is a good one. I also think the analogy of architecture and scaffolding.
MALKIN: And this, you know, this housing that he's built.
GLENN: Oh, yeah. It's got an exoskeleton around the republic, yeah.
MALKIN: Yes. And, you know, so far and the book has only been out a day and there's been a lot of traditional interest in looking at the cabinet and looking at the czars. But there are two important chapters on ACORN which you have reported on extensively and which I have for, you know, more than the last couple of years as well as the SEIU, their twin, and
GLENN: Yeah, they are one and the same.
MALKIN: And the family with Barack Obama that dates back for lo, you know, 20, 25 years really needs, you know, much more mainstream public light. You've done a fabulous job of that and I think that including these two chapters of the book and putting it in the context of the larger Culture of Corruption and the Chicago way is a good start towards helping people enlighten them about it.
GLENN: Michelle, you and I talked about this during the election.
GLENN: I mean, you knew what was coming, I knew what was coming. I didn't realize it would come this fast. I mean, this guy is amazing. This is once you understand the and I think most people don't understand. You know, they look at ACORN and they are like, it's a stupid group and everybody knows what it is. No, no, no. Community organizers are so unbelievably well funded. When you see how much distance we have made here or how much distance has been put between us and the Constitution since Obama got into office, are you as concerned as you were for our country or more so? And if so, how much time do you think we have before you just are not turning this car around?
MALKIN: I think we're already at an inflection point, Glenn, and I think that it calls for fueling even more curiosity and scrutiny on these meadow organizations. I quote Andy Stern, the president of the SEIU, the Service Employees International Union on his organizing philosophy and it is this: We prefer to use the power of persuasion but if that doesn't work, we use the persuasion of power. And it is the same theme and like motif that infuses the ACORN MO, the persuasion of power, the muscle for money program that whistle blower and, you know, Moncrief blew the whistle on. And I dedicate the book to the whistleblowers out there. You know, it's not just us on the right who are exposing this.
GLENN: Oh, no. Oh, yeah.
MALKIN: The fact is that we owe. We owe so much to very brave people on the other side, some of them who have come over, ex liberals like Anita who understand the depths and the intricacy and the intimacy between and among those groups. But also between them and Barack Obama.
GLENN: There is a scary fusion that is happening now and this is where, you know, I liken it to the movie Alien with Sigourney Weaver where that thing attaches onto people's faces and they are all trying to get it off of the face. It doesn't matter. The thing doesn't matter anymore. The thing has laid an egg inside of you and it's about to burst through. I think this is you know, ACORN has attached itself to the face of our government right now and everyone is trying to get ACORN off and they are concentrating on that. Stop concentrating on that. It has laid eggs inside of our government, not just in the White House and through the czars and everything else but it is laying those eggs, deep and powerful eggs in something called AmeriCorps. True or false?
MALKIN: True. And I've done reporting on the relationship between AmeriCorps and ACORN that dates back decades, and the watchdog group in Washington judicial watch, I have been on their case since the creation of America or program under the Clinton administration. And this is our tax dollars at work, and as long as you keep electing congress people in both parties that continue to fund this egg laying, it will reap, you know, very rotten consequences on the electoral landscape and on the economy.
GLENN: I want to ask you about the rotten consequences. Put this into perspective for me now. This is something that Barack Obama said on the campaign trail that now if you see the way they are taking over education as far as controlling who gets a student loan, who doesn't, erasing those student loans if you decide to become a government bureaucrat for ten years, the way they are going after the idea of mandatory service. When you hear this and you tie it in to the ACORNs of the world and the Americorps of the world, what does this mean to you today?
PRESIDENT OBAMA: We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded.
GLENN: Okay. He's talking about a civilian national security force but he's also, Rahm Emanuel later talks about a civil defense corps here in America that would be mandatory service that everyone from 18 to 25 would have to serve in. What is he talking about?
MALKIN: He's talking about recruiting future generations who are going to be the foot soldiers for the leftwing ideological agenda. And I think in order to fight this thing, you cannot just fight Barack Obama on this. The fact is that this is Michelle Obama's baby, and I have an entire chapter on her. And the fact is that she worked for a community service organization that her husband helped create in Chicago that has, you know, been on the government teat since its inception and involved in the AmeriCorps program. She herself appears to have had a role in the booting of the AmeriCorps IG, and we don't have those watchdogs there and it has been apparently her agenda to put her people in place there, you know, to level that agenda on us. If that's not stopped and if the East Wing policy shop does not get scrutiny, it's going through.
GLENN: The East Wing policy shop, what is that?
MALKIN: Yes. This is Chicago cronies that booeyed Michelle Obama's career, people that were working with her at the University of Chicago Medical Center and worked with her in these community organizations and the Richard Daley political machine that are now turning the East Wing into something that would look like kindergarten compared to what Hillary Clinton did.
GLENN: We see a couple of stories. I don't know if you saw the story that we reported on yesterday about the the ACORN but yet it's not ACORN. It's the organizing for America which is Barack Obama and the DNC.
GLENN: But they are all wearing ACORN shirts, yet they claim that they are not they have nothing to do with ACORN. And it was in Baton Rouge, and they were silencing free speech on the sidewalk.
Now we have another story out this is from Virginia that the they were going around. The administration was going around Virginia and they were drumming up support for, you know, these you know, healthcare, et cetera, et cetera. They were the tea partiers came in and they refused the opportunity to ask the congressman a question when they were told by plainclothes policemen to leave the property after they attempted to hold up signs urging them to vote against a government takeover. They are now using the police force to silence the other side, something they said they hated out of George W. Bush when people you know, if you are at a town hall and you have a right to ask a question, that's what you do. But if you're shouting down somebody in a lecture, then I agree with escorting you outside. The next thing is tweeting your senator, again organizing for America the DNC and Barack Obama where they are using Twitter to be able to communicate and get people to write their senator. However, the White House is saying that congress can't do that. And one step forward: Congress is now through what is this calling it? The Franking Commission?
MALKIN: Yeah, right.
GLENN: You are familiar with it, Michelle?
MALKIN: Sure, yes.
GLENN: Where the Franking Commission is now saying that Republicans cannot use the term "Government healthcare." Well, you control the language, you win every time. What kind of world are we turning into in?
MALKIN: Well, you know, I quoted and stern, the persuasion of power, the power of persuasion. And when groups like ACORN and organizing for America which have posed as the two champions of the grassroots are threatened by bona fide grassroots organizations like the tea party movement and the 9/12 project and all the grassroots people who are out there on the streets pounding the pavement in an unprecedented way, I've never seen anything like it. I mean, obviously the state's back to the early days of protest against the porkulus bill, then we had April 15th and now people are mobilizing through the recess on healthcare. ACORN is not used to seeing anyone else on their streets. And they are using every method and weapon possible to shut them up and, of course, they are overseers in the Obama administration and organizing for America, approve and are directing on those kind of bully tactics. This is what they did with the banks, this is what they did with the housing industry and now it's what they are doing with the grassroots.
GLENN: Michelle, I was on Fox and Friends this morning and I said they were talking about this Gates thing and they were they asked me, well, maybe this is good because now Obama's exposed and this is going to hurt him. And I said, we've never seen this man trapped before. And these organizers are not used to being trapped. They don't they are not pushed around. They push around. And so when they're exposed, when they're cornered, we have no idea how dangerous these people can become. They are not playing by the same set of rules. They never have played by the same set of rules. But they've never had this much power, and I think a lot of them are drunk on it. We've not recognized how much real true poison and hatred is in some of these people. I think the president has again given the American people a chance to see his racism inside of him. And if the American people start to wake up, what do you predict? How are they going to move? How are they going to respond? How is the president going to respond? Do you think he will respond like most presidents would and say, okay, well now my poll numbers are getting really bad. Or does he say, I've got the power and I know what's right and I'm moving forward?
MALKIN: Yeah. Well, over the last six months we've seen the Chicago way in action, and America has come to realize that hope and change came wrapped in a set of brass knuckles. That's the way ACORN has always operated, the SEIU has always operated and the Team Obama that put him into power has operated. So it was no shock to you or me when he dealt with the Chrysler creditors that way, the Chrysler dealers that way, banks who refused to take TARP money, banks who wanted to give TARP money back, the CBO when they questioned some of his bogus claims about healthcare savings. That's the way he deals with everyone. That's the way he's going to deal with citizens on the ground who are succeeding at exposing the myths of hope and change. And so look, I don't want to drum up, you know, some inordinate fear about what might happen to people individually if they go out and speak out, but sure, they should be put on notice that this is the way they operate. They've Chicagoized Washington D.C. and, you know, we've been put on notice about how they operate.
GLENN: Michelle Malkin is our guest. She's got a new book called Culture of Corruption. It's out today. I will tell you that I usually don't read political books. I just don't, I don't usually go there. I'll go into theory, et cetera, et cetera. I don't read these current event books, but I tell you, Michelle, I will read yours. It is I think you are right on the money, exactly where America needs to wake up, and America needs to see this and I will read your book.
Tell me honestly, I was in a meeting yesterday and quite honestly it was kind of a loud meeting and I said to several people today, I said, do you realize who you are poking in the chest every day? And they just kind of looked at me. And I said, we are poking the people with the most power. They have the system of thugs already. They also have they are just riddled with cash. Do you realize this? The question that I have for you, Michelle, is how long before we, you and me and Rush and everybody else, are put into a situation to where we have to make a choice: Tell the truth or lose it all.
MALKIN: I don't know. I don't feel that I've even come close to a sense of intimidation. And yes, you know, this is in the context of there are the threats of the Fairness Doctrine returning. You know, I've dealt with Obama officials who have questioned my journalistic integrity and basically leveled implicit threats.
GLENN: So you think that the you think that the threats and the knee breaking and the whatever else that they have done to banks and to everybody else, that is not going to happen to people like us?
MALKIN: I'm not saying that it won't happen, but the fact is that I am inspired, and I mentioned those whistleblowers at the beginning who have risked so much more.
GLENN: I know.
MALKIN: Who don't have the level of, you know, comfort that we have as public figures.
GLENN: I know.
MALKIN: And this is about breaking that code of silence. I talk about the Mafia's code of silence in Omertà and if those whistleblowers can do it, we can do it. And we certainly you know, they certainly risk a lot more than we do.
GLENN: Michelle, I agree with you 110%. Thank you so much and we will talk again. We'll see you tonight on the TV show. Culture of Corruption is the name of the book. Pick it up.