by Christopher Reich
GLENN: Chris Reich is stopping by the studio. Chris Reich so New York Times best selling author, Rules of Vengeance is his new one. He had Rules of Deception. How many rules are there? My gosh. Rules of Vengeance is the latest. Chris, I have to tell you I'm halfway through the book and I was thinking about it I think last night or the night before. I didn't know you were coming in today. I was hoping to have it read by the time you got here, but I was thinking about this when I was reading it that I can't think of a book that has kept me ‑‑ I have no idea where you are going, I mean in a good way. You know what I mean? I'm like, I have no idea what this even means. I have not read a book that had a more captivating opening chapter and then things keep happening and I'm like, I have no idea where this is going to end. And somebody told me today that finished the book that the last line in the book is one of the best lines ever.
REICH: That's nice of you to say. No, I just write the kind of books I love reading which are page‑turners where once you get inside the story, you cannot put it down.
GLENN: The last time I saw you, was the last book the rules of ‑‑
REICH: Last summer, Rules of Deception.
GLENN: Yeah, Rules of Deception. And that was the one with the butterfly on the cover.
GLENN: And it was the mechanical butterfly, right?
REICH: It was kind of this nanotechnology, which we're using now these little butterflies that could fly around and that was used to sense to go find like traces of uranium and plutonium in Iran.
GLENN: That's right, that's right. Are you a technology freak?
REICH: A little bit.
GLENN: Yeah. Because the beginning is this kind of, I don't even know how you would describe him, this uber rich guy who's living in (loss of audio) is dismantled at the beginning. It was a great security ‑‑ I never heard of it, where it is a motion sensor but also detects the heat in the room. So, you know, the curtain could move or whatever. But if the heat is also changed, those two things coupled together will set the alarm off. That exists?
REICH: Double redundant system. It's like the best of the best, the hardest. My task as a novelist was to figure out how I could defeat that. So I went to the guys that put them in and said, how would you defeat this. They say, oh, there's actually a way you could do this.
GLENN: It's unbelievable. It's absolutely unbelievable. So the idea is about Russia, and I'm at the point here where I just saw the new leader who's using the czars gun. There seems to be a common thread in ‑‑ oh, wow, czars. Wow, czars were bad? Huh, who would have thought that? There seems to be a theme going on in a lot of the fiction books that I've been reading from the best authors lately when it comes to Russia and that is Russia never became a good place. They are no friend to freedom. They are no friend. We went through this period with George Bush where "I looked into the eyes and I saw him and he's a good guy." You are kind of an expert on Russia.
REICH: I would completely disagree with that assessment. Russia is still the evil empire, still the big bad bear out there. So we, you know, better keep on our toes because they would like nothing better than to see, you know, America destabilized. Anything that makes us weaker makes them stronger.
GLENN: They've cut their population and they are using all of their natural resources and they are still unstable over there.
REICH: I think the average life expectancy is down to 56 or 57 years old for a white male in Russia which is pretty low. So they can't replace their population. They are depending, Glenn, on one thing: The price of oil. They will do anything, and I mean anything to make sure that oil stays above $70 a barrel. And that's kind of the plot that takes place in Rules of Vengeance.
GLENN: Do you ‑‑ when you see us moving in the direction we're moving here as a country, anything stick out to you as a ‑‑ because I know you're a history buff. You majored in history, right? Any particular ‑‑ which, just general?
REICH: American diplomatic history.
GLENN: Okay. Does anything stick out to you that you wish people were saying on TV or in the public square and saying, wait, wait, wait, know your history on this one; this is a problem.
REICH: I think, you know, we are certainly at a stage in history right now, stage in our country's history where there's a lot of problems facing us. And as you've mentioned, it's time for us to stand up and say, no, look back at the Constitution, look back at the principles upon which we are found and let's remake our country in that fashion. What's most important, though, is that people just read it all and keep up with what's going on. So we are facing a ‑‑
GLENN: But how do you do it? How do you do it? I know you don't even have a TV in your home. How do you ‑‑
REICH: You grab a book. And you can certainly get anything from the Internet you like.
GLENN: Well, not everything.
REICH: But just be informed and have an opinion. That's what I think.
GLENN: You know, something that has really caught my eye. I talked to one of the leading scholars on the Soviet Union and specifically the end of the Soviet Union. And when you see the way the Soviet Union, I've always felt ‑‑ you know, we saw the Berlin wall come down, and it collapsed. It didn't collapse. It was transformed. It was collapsing. And Boris Yeltsin went into the woods in the middle of the night and brokered a deal. You know this? And came back and stood in front of the Politburo and give them one hour of debate and said, you need to provide a way out to the people and this is the way out. Because this is going to collapse. It's unsustainable. When I heard that and I looked at that and I saw the collapse of the Soviet empire which I think we have been repeating in many ways. I mean, we were doing exactly the same things that they did in many ways. I thought, boy, here we have a president who says he's going to fundamentally transform us. Do you think there's a chance that we don't see America and the Constitution in our lifetime the way we understand it? Do you think that there's ‑‑
REICH: Well, I'm a big believer in the American people and in the American way of life and that capitalism is the one system that will right itself. So if our boat now is listing to one side, I have every faith that we are going to find the solution to get it back. America's still so strong. Don't ever sell this country short.
GLENN: Yeah, don't sell its people out. I will tell you this ‑‑
REICH: We'll get back.
GLENN: I think the thing that really gives me hope is that eventually the people of Russia went back to a totalitarian kind of state. It wasn't the same, but it was ‑‑ because they were almost bred for it in a way. They've lived under it so long. It's almost in their DNA. The exact opposite of us.
REICH: That's exactly right. Democracy is not in the Russians' DNA. Democracy is in every American's DNA and we will fight to keep it.
GLENN: The name of the book is Rules of Vengeance. Comes out today?
GLENN: By Christopher Reich. And I have to tell you, you know if I listen to this program, you know that I read an awful lot. This is thrilling. It is really, really good. If you are looking for a good novel to read, pick it up today. Rules of Vengeance. Christopher Reich. Pleasure as always today on the program.
REICH: Thanks, Glenn.