Vince Flynn - Pursuit of Honor



Pursuit of Honor


by Vince Flynn

GLENN: From high above Times Square, third most listened to show in all of America. Hello, you sick twisted freak. Welcome to the program. The one, the only Vince Flynn is here. Hey, Vince, how are you?

FLYNN: Now that you've risen to the status of superstar, you are now protected by a cocoon of glass.

GLENN: Yes, I am. You cannot enter my space.

FLYNN: I can't come within 20 feet of you.

GLENN: That's exactly right. I've read your books. You are a killer. What kind of guy, what kind of guy you don't talk into it that way, Vince. You talk into in flat like that, okay?

FLYNN: I'm not a professional like you.

GLENN: Yeah, I know well, I mean, I'm not a you know, I'm not a New York Times best seller

FLYNN: Actually you are. Actually I

GLENN: Whoa!

PAT: Who would have saw that coming.

GLENN: Vince was there the first day that we you remember you were there when we got our first number one.

FLYNN: I've been there for you I'm there when you get thrown out of CNN, I'm there when you get number one, I'm there when you are on the cover of Time magazine.

GLENN: He is there every day, every time he shows up, it's a quintessential Glenn Beck day.

FLYNN: In fact, do you remember in Philadelphia, I was in the studio and you had got the offer to go to New York and you were trying to figure out if you should move or not.

GLENN: I don't remember that.

FLYNN: And I said to you, just don't keep the family out of the blast area, the blast radius.

GLENN: That's right, I remember, I'm sorry.

FLYNN: I said go live in Connecticut or in between.

FLYNN: You are more paranoid than I am.

FLYNN: Well, I know things. It's

GLENN: I know, I know. And so you were there I think when the first time we got a number one New York Times best seller and probably a little coldly, he was on the set and I got the phone call. Do you remember what I said to you?

FLYNN: Yeah. I think you said how many times did it take you to get to number one.

GLENN: What I said to you was, how many years did you work to be a New York Times best seller?

FLYNN: Many, many. See, unlike you, I'm just genuinely happy for your success. I think it's beautiful.

GLENN: Can I tell you something? Your new book, whatever it's called

FLYNN: Arguing With Idiots? No, Pursuit of Honor.

GLENN: Pursuit of Honor is the best Mitch Rapp book that you've written.

FLYNN: Thank you.

GLENN: Has anybody else told you?

FLYNN: I have heard that.

GLENN: You have heard that?

FLYNN: I heard that from some other that guy Joe Soucheray who I was telling you about yesterday.

GLENN: I could have said it's the only Mitch Rapp book that I've actually read and I'm bluffing here on that it's the best ever, but that wouldn't be true.

FLYNN: Well, I think, you know, and I got a little chastised. My 8 year old daughter Ingrid wasn't real thrilled that I got on the air last night that I said your wife had to read you the book, didn't she?

GLENN: Yeah. My wife was sitting next to me when we were watching last night and she just laughed. She hit me. I got hit for it. I don't know why I got hit for it. Stop giving him he is such a nice man. Stop giving him such a hard time.

FLYNN: I love it. You know that this is how machismo guys show their true love for each other. They verbally abuse each other.

GLENN: I know, I know.

FLYNN: Part of the deal.

GLENN: But I mean it. You strangely find it endearing. So, you know, the thing that is in the book and I don't want to give away, you know, anything in the book. You can talk a little. You want to talk a little bit about, you want to talk a little bit about Chapter 50. Will you talk a little bit about Chapter 50 in your book?

FLYNN: I would love to talk about Chapter 50. (Laughing). He's holding up signs now.

FLYNN: No, I just, in my hands I have the Christmas Sweater. What is this? A children's?

GLENN: This is a new children's book. It was just brought in. I just got a copy of it, too. It's a new children's book that we're

FLYNN: It's very nice actually.

GLENN: Thank you.

FLYNN: It's a little thin for my taste but it looks the packaging's beautiful.

GLENN: I'm sorry that 6 year olds don't read 300 page novels. Although somebody sent me a book that is the first chapter book that I read with Raphe last night. It is Knights of Rite or Knights of the Rite. The author sent it to me and I brought it home and I started reading it to my son because he is very into knights and it's the first chapter book. Have you ever read the Goosebumps?

FLYNN: I remember doing that, yeah.

GLENN: It was so thrilling to read with him last night.

FLYNN: Because you tell him, we're going to read one chapter and then they get really fired up about it and then another chapter, come on.

GLENN: But it's the first one, they are like three pages without pictures on them and I mean, it was really cool to do it.

FLYNN: You know what? I don't know if you've read the Harry Potter series.

GLENN: Yeah, I have, yeah.

FLYNN: I love it. And when they're young, that first book is pretty benign. By the time you get to Book 7, it's kind of spooky. So young Raphe wouldn't be ready for that but it wouldn't be the worst thing he's

GLENN: I didn't I read Pursuit of Honor.

FLYNN: To Raphe?

GLENN: To Raphe, yeah. Where they just eviscerate him and just cut him open?

FLYNN: So Chapter 50.

GLENN: Yeah, Chapter 50, this is great.

FLYNN: Enough about you. Can we talk about me for a little bit?

GLENN: Yeah, whatever.

FLYNN: Chapter 50, it dawned on me this past spring when I was working on the book, and it's a take off on the last book where this book starts six days after a series of bombs have torn apart Washington, D.C. And by the way, that scenario that he put forth in Extreme Measures raised a lot of eyebrows in Washington D.C., a lot of people in the law enforcement business were saying this is our worst, this is our week underbelly, there's nothing we can do to protect, you know, against attack like this. And so I played on that with, you know, Nancy Pelosi and Feinstein and boxer and Harry Reid and all these guys and how we are we continue to weaken ourselves by attacking the very men and women who are supposed to protect us. And it dawned on me at one point, and I think we can talk about it without giving too much away. But that every single person that hates the CIA and wants to tear them apart for torture are all people who want to put federal funding towards third term abortions and so there's this great point in the book where they're calling on Rapp, they are calling him a barbarian because he caught a guy who was part of this plot and dislocated his arm repeated by to get him to talk.

GLENN: Which is also got scene.

FLYNN: And so they are calling Rapp a barbarian. And he said, hey, to help me out here, what do you think God is going to find more objectionable? Sticking a spike into the head of an 8 month old fetus and sucking out his brains, or dislocating the arm of a terrorist who wants to kill innocent people?

PAT: What would you give for somebody to say that in congress?

FLYNN: Wouldn't it be great to have an Oliver North moment?

PAT: I would do a fundraiser and award that congressman or senator millions just to bring it up.

GLENN: I would

PAT: Or CIA agent, yeah.

GLENN: I think you know what, Vince? You and I have talked over the last few months really, maybe even the last year that the CIA is and it started under Bush. The CIA started getting thrown under the bus and thrown under the bus. The same guys that we said after 9/11, go get em.

FLYNN: Yep.

GLENN: We now are saying, our politicians on both sides of the aisle are saying, yeah, yeah, yeah, go, go, get the CIA agents that were doing this. These people risked their life, they did do you know, do you know Michael Scheuer?

FLYNN: Yeah, I know who Michael is. Very sharp guy. Don't agree with everything but extremely harp.

GLENN: He is the guy who came up with Rendition.

FLYNN: Yep.

GLENN: Which, rendition is not something that I agree with, I mean, but he came up with it. And, you know, I can't say that we're I mean, it's not like we go dislocate arms of people, you know, together, you know, as friends. So I can't say that I'm his friend because he scares the hell out of me. But I mean, I know him well enough and I'm reading a book on rendition and I read the story of how it came about and it's Michael Scheuer and President Clinton.

FLYNN: Yes.

GLENN: And he's doing it because President Clinton wouldn't let him do the right thing and so President Clinton said, find a loophole for me. Okay, here it is; we'll do it this way. Is that acceptable? Well, now people like Michael Scheuer are under attack. These guys have more honor in their body than... than 100 of these people combined.

FLYNN: Glenn, you go through this on the healthcare debate and everything else. You talk about we have allowed the left on this issue of torture and intelligence to move the debate into their sandbox, and it's a false premise to start with. The CIA was started to go break the laws of other countries and international law. That is their entire mission. Right now somewhere over in

GLENN: Oh, no. No, it's not, no.

FLYNN: Right now.

GLENN: It's not like, hey, go over there and shoot out all the street lamps.

FLYNN: No, no, no.

GLENN: They are doing it for a reason.

FLYNN: But they are doing it for a reason, and the reason is they are conducting espionage. They are stealing right now all around the world we have operatives who are hacking into computer systems, who are breaking into apartments, who are stealing people's information who work for foreign governments. And again back up even further. This, the CIA came about after World War II because you had a at the time it was mostly men, had gone and fought in World War I, survived the Great Depression, World War II, and they saw what unchecked fascism and communism and Naziism could do. They knew how serious it was that they went over there and they lost 360,000 of their fellow countrymen fighting that war and they said, you know, we can't just sit back and be passive about this; we have to go actively protect our interests. So the CIA is founded and their job is to go break our countries' laws and steal their secrets. At times abduct people, interrogate them, do all kinds of nasty things. It worked very well up through the beginning of the Seventies because those survivors of World War II were still in the Senate. And they all understood. The CIA is off limits for politics. Well, church hearings roll in, that all changes, and now it has become this horrible committee, the Senate select committee on intelligence and the House committee where they leak all the time about what's going on, and it's the analogy I have in the book: The frog and the scorpion. These politicians cannot help themselves. They have to run to the nearest camera. Every time they get an opportunity to embarrass the other party. And on this issue of the CIA, the Democrats are it's disgusting what's happened. But there's no bravery on the part of the Republicans. Where are the Republican senators and representatives standing up saying, leave these guys alone?

GLENN: Where is anybody on Afghanistan?

FLYNN: It's a joke.

GLENN: Let me ask you this, Vince. You know enough of these guys, you know special forces, CIA, et cetera, et cetera. Do you really believe that if this country was serious and wanted to use the full force and might of the United States of America and the president said you use all of our resources, you do whatever it takes, you shut that damn area down.

FLYNN: Yep.

GLENN: Kill them.

FLYNN: Yep.

GLENN: Do you think we would still be over in Afghanistan today?

FLYNN: No we would but we would start moving units. You are saying if we had done this years ago?

GLENN: Yeah.

FLYNN: Yeah, I couldn't agree more.

GLENN: We would have been out of there in, what, two years?

FLYNN: Well, there's an issue of infrastructure long term. You know, there's some great books out there about the history of Afghanistan. And when we went in

GLENN: (Snoring).

FLYNN: Oh, here we go. Here we go. When we went in, I was always worried about long term.

GLENN: Uh huh.

FLYNN: By the way, this is the only region that Alexander the Great got defeated. Do you know how he got out of there? He married a thousand of his officers to a thousand other women and he declared peace and moved on.

PAT: What if we did that? Is that something that you are recommending doing?

FLYNN: I am recommending.

GLENN: What if we take all of the progressives that don't have a problem with the Taliban and everything else and want to make friends, we send them over there and they get to marry

PAT: The burka chicks.

GLENN: Or the burka guys, the ones that will make Nancy Pelosi stay in the house. Stay in the house! What if we married them off?

FLYNN: Where is Nancy Pelosi on women's issues in Afghanistan?

GLENN: She doesn't seem to have a problem with that, no. So

FLYNN: The military could do it. And by the way, General McChrystal is a genius. There is no great expert on this subject than him but now we're listening to vice president Joe Biden.

GLENN: Do you know him?

FLYNN: No, but I know he is a fan of the books because some guys at Langley

GLENN: I'm talking about people laying their life on the line

FLYNN: Oh, geez. And you asked me if I know him. You are trying to name drop? Do you know him, do you know him?

GLENN: No, there is a battle going on, but he loves my books. What is that what kind of shameless plug is that?

FLYNN: Oh, I didn't write The Christmas Sweater. So you don't want to move into this area of shameless propaganda and plugs.

GLENN: (Laughing).

FLYNN: He sent me the manuscript. Remember, Kevin? He sent me the manuscript, and I know this was tough for you. He sends it to me, "I want to know what you think of my manuscript." And I read it and I got a little emotional and I said, you know, it's you are going to make a gazillion dollars on it but I don't know how you are ever going to, you know, walk like a man again after writing a book called The Christmas Sweater.

GLENN: He did, he did.

PAT: He didn't walk like a man before. So there was no difference. There was no difference.

GLENN: Yeah.

FLYNN: I came down on Christmas warning and put on my Christmas Sweater.

GLENN: And behind a tree was Mitch Rapp. He ripped the arms of my sister right off, clean off her body! Talk! What's in my present! Talk!

PAT: Why did I start this? I'm so outgunned, it's not even fair.

GLENN: It is the name of the book is

PAT: Pursuit of Honor.

GLENN: Whatever.

PAT: (Laughing).

GLENN: And it's available in bookstores everywhere books every place that books are sold, which wouldn't include hardware stores, and it is worth the read. It is it's fantastic. I finished it this weekend. I didn't know you were coming in this week.

FLYNN: Well, you're a busy man. I couldn't believe I saw you on Fox and Friends this morning. You're everywhere.

GLENN: Well... you weren't on I was surprised you weren't on Fox and Friends.

FLYNN: I came on after you, about an hour later.

GLENN: Jeez. So they let him sleep in. Me... get up, Beck!

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Ryan: Trump Louisiana Finale

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Part One. Part Two. Part Three.

At the end of Trump rallies, I would throw on my Carhartt jacket, sneak out of the press area, then blend in with everyone as they left, filing out through swinging doors.

Often, someone held the door open for me. Just 30 minutes earlier, the same person had most likely had most likely hissed at me for being a journalist. And now they were Sunday smiles and "Oh, yes, thank you, sir" like some redneck concierge.

People flooded out of the arena with the stupidity of a fire drill mishap, desperate to survive.

The air smacked you as soon as you crossed the threshold, back into Louisiana. And the lawn was a wasteland of camping chairs and coolers and shopping bags and to-go containers and soda cans and articles of clothing and even a few tents.

In Monroe, in the dark, the Trump supporters bobbled over mounds of waste like elephants trying to tiptoe. And the trash was as neutral to them as concrete or grass. They plodded over it because it, an object, had somehow gotten in their way.

It did not matter that they were responsible for this wreckage.Out in the sharp-edged moonlight, rally-goers hooted and yapped and boogied and danced, and the bbq food truck was all smoke and paper plates.

They were even more pumped than they had been before the rally, like 6,000 eight year olds who'd been chugging Mountain Dew for hours. Which made Donald Trump the father, the trooper, God of the Underworld, Mr. Elite, Sheriff on high horse, the AR-15 sticker of the family.

Ritualistic mayhem, all at once. And, there in Louisiana, Trump's supporters had gotten a taste of it. They were all so happy. It bordered on rage.

Still, I could not imagine their view of America. Worse, after a day of strange hostilities, I did not care.

My highest priority, my job as a reporter, was to care. To understand them and the world that they inhabit. But I did not give a damn and I never wanted to come back.

Worst of all, I would be back. In less than a week.

Was this how dogs felt on the 4th of July? Hunched in a corner while everyone else gets drunk and launches wailing light into the sky? configurations of blue and red and white.

It was 10:00 p.m. and we'd been traveling since 11:00 a.m., and we still had 5 hours to go and all I wanted was a home, my home, any home, just not here, in the cold sweat of this nowhere. Grey-mangled sky. No evidence of planes or satellites or any proof of modern-day. Just century-old bridges that trains shuffled over one clack at a time.

And casinos, all spangles and neon like the 1960s in Las Vegas. Kitchy and dumb, too tacky for lighthearted gambling. And only in the nicer cities, like Shreveport, which is not nice at all.

And swamp. Black water that rarely shimmered. Inhabited by gadflies and leeches and not one single fish that was pretty.

Full of alligators, and other killing types. The storks gnawing on frogs, the vultures never hungry. The coyotes with nobody to stop them and so much land to themselves. The roaches in the wild, like tiny wildebeests.

Then, the occasional deer carcass on the side of the road, eyes splayed as if distracted, tongue out, relaxed but empty. The diseased willows like skeletons in hairnets. The owls that never quit staring. A million facets of wilderness that would outlive us all.

Because Nature has poise. It thrives and is original.

Because silence is impossible. Even in an anechoic chamber, perfectly soundproofed, you can hear your own heartbeat, steady as a drum. A never-ending war.

I put "Headache" by Grouper on repeat as we glided west. We were deadlocked to asphalt, rubber over tarface.

And I thought about lines from a Rita Dove poem titled "I have been a stranger in a strange land"

He was off cataloging the universe, probably,
pretending he could organize
what was clearly someone else's chaos.

Wasn't that exactly what I was doing? Looking for an impossible answer, examining every single accident, eager for meaning? telling myself, "If it happens and matters the next year, in America, I want to be there, or to know what it means. I owe it to whoever cares to listen."

Humans are collectors and I had gone overboard.

Because maybe this wasn't even my home. These landmarks, what did they mean? Was I obvious here? When I smiled, did I trick them into believing that I felt some vague sense of approval? Or did my expressions betray me?

Out in all that garbage-streaked emptiness — despite the occasional burst of passing halogen — I couldn't tell if everything we encountered was haunted or just old, derelict, broken, useless. One never-ending landfill.

Around those parts, they'd made everything into junk. Homes. Roads. Glass. Nature. Life itself, they made into junk.

I cringed as we passed yet another deer carcass mounded on the side of the road.

As written in Job 35:11,

Who teaches us more than the beasts of the earth and makes us wiser than the birds in the sky?

Nobody. Look at nature and you feel something powerful. Look at an animal, in all of its untamable majesty, and you capture a deep love, all swept up in the power of creation. But, here, all I saw were poor creatures who people had slammed into and kept driving. Driving to where? For what reason? What exactly was so important that they left a trail of dead animals behind them?

So I crossed myself dolorously and said an "Our Father" and recited a stanza from Charles Bukowski's "The Laughing Heart"

you can't beat death but
you can beat death in life, sometimes.
and the more often you learn to do it,
the more light there will be.

Out here, nothing but darkness. Needing some light, by God. Give me something better than a Moon that hides like an underfed coward.

Jade told me about some of the more traumatic things she'd seen while working at the State Fair.

"Bro, they pull roaches out of the iced lemonade jugs and act like nothing happened."

"All right but what about the corn dogs?"

"You do not want to know, little bro."

She looked around in the quiet. "Back in the day, the Louisiana Congress refused to raise the drinking age from 18 to 21," she said. "They didn't want to lose all that drunk gambler money. So the federal government cut off funding to highways."

We glided through moon-pale landscape for an hour before I realized what she had meant. That there weren't any light poles or billboards along the road. Nothing to guide us or distract us. Just us, alone. And it felt like outer space had collapsed, swallowed us like jellybeans.

Like two teenagers playing a prank on the universe.

In the cozy Subaru Crosstrek, in the old wild night, brimming with the uncertainty of life and the nonchalance of failure, we paraded ourselves back to Dallas. Alive in the river silence that follows us everywhere.

New installments come Mondays and Thursdays. Next, the Iowa caucuses. Check out my Twitter. Email me at kryan@blazemedia.com

The Iowa primary is just around the corner, and concerns of election interference from the last presidential election still loom. Back in 2016, The Associated Press found that a majority of U.S. elections systems still use Windows 7 as an operating system, making them highly susceptible to bugs and errors. And last year, a Mississippi voter tried multiple times to vote for the candidate of his choice, but the system continuously switched his vote to the other candidate. It's pretty clear: America's voting systems desperately need an update.

That's where blockchain voting comes in.

Blockchain voting is a record-keeping system that's 100% verifiable and nearly impossible to hack. Blockchain, the newest innovation in cybersecurity, is set to grow into a $20 billion industry by 2025. Its genius is in its decentralized nature, distributing information throughout a network of computers, requiring would-be hackers to infiltrate a much larger system. Infiltrating multiple access points spread across many computers requires a significant amount of computing power, which often costs more than hackers expect to get in return.

Blockchain voting wouldn't allow for many weak spots. For instance, Voatz, arguably the leading mobile voting platform, requires a person to take a picture of their government-issued ID and a picture of themselves before voting (a feature, of course, not present in vote-by-mail, where the only form of identity verification is a handwritten signature, which is easily forgeable). Voters select their choices and hit submit. They then receive an immediate receipt of their choices via email, another security feature not present in vote-by-mail, or even in-person voting. And because the system operates on blockchain technology, it's nearly impossible to tamper with.

Votes are then tabulated, and the election results are published, providing a paper trail, which is a top priority for elections security experts.

The benefits of blockchain voting can't be dismissed. Folks can cast their vote from the comfort of their homes, offices, etc., vastly increasing the number of people who can participate in the electoral process. Two to three-hour lines at polling places, which often deter voters, would become significantly diminished.

Even outside of the voting increase, the upsides are manifold. Thanks to the photo identification requirements, voter fraud—whether real or merely suspected—would be eliminated. The environment would win, too, since we'd no longer be wasting paper on mail-in ballots. Moreover, the financial burden on election offices would be alleviated, because there's decreased staff time spent on the election, saving the taxpayer money.

From Oregon to West Virginia, elections offices have already implemented blockchain voting, and the results have been highly positive. For example, the city of Denver utilized mobile voting for overseas voters in their 2019 municipal elections. The system was secure and free of technical errors, and participants reported that it was very user-friendly. Utah County used the same system for their 2019 primary and general elections. An independent audit revealed that every vote that was cast on the app was counted and counted correctly. These successful test cases are laying the groundwork for even larger expansions of the program in 2020.

With this vital switch, our elections become significantly more secure, accurate, and efficient. But right now, our election infrastructure is a sitting duck for manipulation. Our current lack of election integrity undermines the results of both local and national elections, fans the flames of partisanship, and zaps voter confidence in the democratic system. While there's never a silver bullet or quick fix to those kinds of things, blockchain voting would push us much closer to a solution than anything else.

Chris Harelson is the Executive Director at Prosperity Council and a Young Voices contributor.