Glenn Beck talks with Michele Bachmann


Congressman Michele Bachmann

GLENN: From high above Times Square in Midtown Manhattan, this is the third most listened to show in all of America. Hello, you sick twisted freak. Welcome to the program. Is Michele Bachmann on the phone? Congresswoman Bachmann, welcome to the program. How are you?

CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: Good morning, Glenn Beck. I'm doing great. Great to talk to you.

GLENN: May I say I believe you are one of a handful. Give me a number. I'm thinking five, a handful of people, maybe three, that actually are in there doing the right thing, and you'll fall on your sword if you have to, but you're in there just, you don't care about the parties anymore?

CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: That's right. And I think that's why Speaker Pelosi has made me her number one congresswoman to defeat next year.

GLENN: That is congratulations. (Applause).

CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: She just released a list and I'm at the top of had your list to defeat.

GLENN: Really?

CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: She's raising money hand over fist to defeat me next year.

GLENN: How can I help you raise money?

CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: Well, people with go to MicheleBachmann.com. I need the help. She's raising money at a clip no one has ever seen before because I'm her number one target to get rid of.

GLENN: We should have a fundraiser for you, Michele?

CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: I will take it. Glenn Beck fundraiser, you are it, my friend, and you would be the draw of all draws.

GLENN: I have to tell ya, I can't take, I can't take the Lindsey Grahams of the world.

CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: No.

GLENN: Anymore.

CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: No. People have had it. When they see what's going on with ACORN, with this phony baloney healthcare bill why it's not even words on a sheet of paper the people are voting on; it's a concept. This is isn't even a bill they voted on yesterday.

GLENN: Has that ever been done before?

CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: No.

GLENN: We're looking into it. My researchers say it's never been done before. They are voting on a red line piece of paper, something that is all marked up. It's not even actually written down.

CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: It not one word of a law has been written yet and these people took a vote on a bill that hasn't been written. What's worse is the federal government estimated how much this bill would cost. You can't estimate how much it's going to cost if you don't have words on a sheet of paper telling you this is the actual bill language. One word can make all the difference in the bill, and they don't have one word written of an actual legislative language. This is a travesty.

GLENN: Okay. You just sent a letter out because you sent a letter out to the FDIC, and I can't believe you actually wrote "The honorable" before her name but you wrote it to the honorable Sheila Bair. She runs the FDIC. You have exposed something and this is breaking news today on ACORN. Michele Bachmann now has exposed yet this hang on, gang yet another assault on your wallet by ACORN and those with power or those who just did whatever they had to do to be able to hang onto their wallet in the in Wall Street and the financial district. Can you explain what you found?

CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: Yeah. This is one thing you do so well is you connect the dots, and the dots are connecting between the federal government and ACORN. Very simply this is it: The federal government wrote a law called the Community Reinvestment Act. It demands that banks make loans to people who are poor credit risks. So that law was already passed.

GLENN: Okay. Now, that law actually was passed by Bill Clinton.

CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: That's right.

GLENN: And it was pushed by Barney Frank and I believe Senator Dodd was involved with that.

CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: That's right.

GLENN: All of the usual suspects were involved.

CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: All of the usual subjects including some Republicans that got behind this law. The Community Reinvestment Act. So that was already passed. Then what happened, the federal government hung a threat over these banks because banks didn't want to make loans to people who were poor credit risks. That's not they are there in the business to do. So as part of the demand from the federal government, what they said is if the banks fail to lower their lending standards, then the federal government would shut down their interstate bank branches and they would not allow banks to open new branches. So in other words, the federal government would essentially shut these banks down if they refuse to make bad loans to people who wouldn't be able to pay them back.

GLENN: Right.

CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: And what we found out, Glenn.

GLENN: Listen to this.

CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: And we're breaking this story on your radio show is that one way the banks could satisfy their requirement under the Community Reinvestment Act is they could partner with ACORN. So a bank could either make a cash donation to ACORN, they could give equipment donations or they could work with ACORN to provide these loans to people who are poor credit risks. One bank that did that was the Citizens Bank of Massachusetts. They put it in a partnership with ACORN. Minnesota Bank, Northeast Bank of Minnesota donated $2,000 to ACORN. New York Bank. We'll put all of this information up on our website at MicheleBachmann.com. But this is huge. Here you have the federal government demanding that banks lower their lending standards. And as a threat to these banks the federal government says we're putting you out of business unless you make these bad loans. But one way you can satisfy your Community Reinvestment Act rating, because you have to get a certain score, one way you could satisfy your score, give money to ACORN. Work with ACORN. You work with ACORN, you're good with us, says the federal government. This is so bad. But the dots are connecting.

GLENN: Let me ask you this. I notice here that you have banks, and see if we find any threads here. I notice that you have listed the banks that are doing this, that gave money or helped ACORN one way or another to satisfy their needs for the government. The banks that you point out, and my question is are there more: Massachusetts, Minnesota, California, and New York. Now, those are all the wildly out of control progressive states. Are there banks in other states that have done this?

CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: Oh, yes, there are.

GLENN: Okay.

CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: And again that's because banks had to figure out some way to satisfy the federal government's demands and so if they, you know, if they were nervous about making loans to very to people with very shaky credit, one thing they could also do is give money to ACORN. So it's a form of payola. So the banks, in order to be in compliance with the federal government, would give payoff money, so to speak, to ACORN in order to stay in the good graces with the federal government. I mean, what else would you call that but a payola?

GLENN: No, it's corruption. So Michele, where does this go now from I mean, you're ringing the bell. But where does it go from here now?

CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: We have to demand an investigation. That's why I

GLENN: No, but Michele, God bless you. You know how I feel about you. But I'm so frustrated right now, and I know the American people are. We have been demanding an investigation.

CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: And we haven't gotten it.

GLENN: So just talk people down no, forget about other people. Talk me off the ledge. Talk me off the ledge.

CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: The number one way we can talk people off the ledge I think is take a page, a cue from Barney Frank. Over the weekend Barney Frank told a special interest group, if you want congress' attention, you melt the phone lines. You call them and you demand. And that's what I think your listeners need to do.

GLENN: They say here it is. This is David Brooks and all of these conservative blowhards that are losing their power now and see that, well, no, wait, Sarah Palin, she's not going through us, the gate keepers. Wait a minute, hold it. All of these old people who screwed this system up six ways to Sunday that are now losing their power now are saying that Rush Limbaugh and me and everybody else, we can't do anything but melt phones and nobody pays attention to that anymore; is that true?

CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: Well, I think they are paying attention and that's why I'm telling everyone Monday through Friday from now until December 31st, call your member of congress. Call your senator and tell them, don't have the government take over healthcare, and would you please defund ACORN? Because this is another lie. ACORN has only been defunded until October 31st.

GLENN: Unbelievable.

CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: When it's Halloween and kids are out trick or treating.

GLENN: Unbelievable.

CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: The biggest trick is going to be played on the American people. When the clock strikes midnight, Glenn, on October 31st, the spigot turns back on for federal money flowing to ACORN. They were only defunded to this month. It's a huge CYA move on the part of congress and so that's why people need to get mad, get engaged. The tea parties were awesome, and it got more attention than the media wants you to believe. The 9/12 movement that you instigated was a bigger deal than anyone has been led to believe. But if we have to keep the pressure up and that's why your listeners have to melt the phone lines every day. When they wake up and comb their hair and take their vitamin, pick up their phone and call their two senators, call their member of congress. Say, look, I'm not going to stand for this. You do not have the government take over my healthcare and you defund ACORN. Have you figured this out? And then the next day you pick up the phone, you give the same message. Trust me, hardly anyone picks up the phone. Hardly anyone makes the phone calls. That's why the 9/12 movement has been so incredibly successful. Because for the first time the American people are engaged. But they can't just think the 9/12 movement was enough on September 12th. We have to make those phone calls now until the end of the year.

GLENN: Michele?

CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: That's why Speaker Pelosi has made me her number one target to defeat next year. She wants me gone next year.

GLENN: I have to tell you something. I want you to pass this along to your friends in congress that are that stand by the Constitution and stand against corruption. And I think there are good Democrats and good Republicans. I think the Democrats are more afraid than Republicans are because they know who's got their party by the throat. But you tell them that I am currently in fact, I was just in the break, I was in the hallway talking about something that we're working on for next year and hopefully we'll be announcing here in the next month or so. You tell your friends in congress they haven't seen anything yet. You wait until next year. They haven't seen anything.

CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: They need to know that. And the best way they can know is by the American people getting a hold of their member of congress and saying this is it: You take orders from me; I don't take orders from you, and you do not pass healthcare and you defund ACORN and you do it now.

GLENN: Do you know, Michele, do you think that the people in congress have any sense to them of the trouble that they are in? I mean, you know, I've talked to a few reporters who are, you know, decent reporters and don't ever want anybody to know that I speak to them. But they're decent reporters that people think are, you know, in the bag for Obama or whatever and they say that the politicians are all saying, "Well, these people will go back to sleep again soon, these people will be off, you know, they're not going to they will be distracted by something else. The people don't have a long memory." You know, Lindsey Graham is running again I think in, what, 2014 is his next election? I don't think this guy has a chance of winning in 2014 because of what he's doing right now. The days of, you know, the elephant is supposed to have a good memory. An elephant never forgets, uh huh. They have forgotten for a long time. Forget about the stupid elephant. Americans who feel that their representatives have betrayed the Constitution or at least borderline betrayed the Constitution and sold our children into a lifetime of servitude, to be able to pay off the things that they are now buying up now, they are not going to be forgotten and they are not going to be forgiven.

CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: Well, that's right because the new coalition that is coming together, literally that is a huge tent that is sewn together with the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States. The very parchment of those documents is the tent that we are coalescing against. Because what we recognize is as Americans we were given the most precious gift of any people of all time. And that was our declaration. And that was our Constitution. And in one year's time, in a stunning move, we've seen the federal government take over 30% of all private wealth produced in this country. One year ago 100% of private business profits were private. Today 30% of private business profits are owned or controlled by the federal government. If they get their way and take over healthcare

GLENN: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. All of us are looking at each other saying, wow, I've never heard that stat. Where do you get that stat?

CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: Oh, no, that's true. An, an economist from Arizona State University has calculated that since the inception of bailout nation, we have seen the federal government own or control 30% of private business profits.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh.

CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: If the federal government lays claim to the private wealth produced in healthcare, Glenn, that's another 18%, or 48% of the private wealth. And if they lay claim through cap and trade, what Lindsey Graham is getting on board with, that's another 8%, or 56% of the private wealth produced in this country. That's stunning. That is stunning.

PAT: So just those two programs, the climate bill and the healthcare reform, which is another 18%, or another 26%?

CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: That would be 26%, or a total of. Because the federal government has already, Glenn, gotten control or ownership of 30% of the private wealth produced in this country. As if that wasn't bad enough, now this would be an additional 26%. At that point we are no longer a free market capitalist country. That's why people are nervous for a reason. People aren't crazy. They haven't been ginned up by talk show hosts. This is real. This is real what we're seeing in front of our eyes. And that's why I do believe that politicians are going to quake in their boots. And if they aren't, they better. They better.

GLENN: Are you willing, are you willing to lose your job and your reputation for standing up for what you believe in?

CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: Well, of course. I always have been. I'm a former federal tax lawyer. My husband and I have raised five kids. We've raised 23 foster kids. We started a business. I had a really good life before I ever came to Washington D.C., and I left being at home with our family because I saw that my 23 foster kids and my five biological kids aren't going to have a chance, not a chance if the federal government goes down this road.

GLENN: Do you know, do you realize the carbon footprint of your family?

CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: Isn't it wonderful? Freedom lovers all, Glenn.

GLENN: Michele, our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor, thank you so much.

CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: Amen.

GLENN: We'll see you tonight. We're going to have Michele on. You need to see what she has broken about ACORN. This is disgusting. It is despicable. It is greed, corruption at the highest levels tonight on the Fox News Channel. Or if you'd like to see it on our website, she will be putting it there on, it's MicheleBachmann.com, and I think she said you could make a donation to help her keep Nancy Pelosi at bay.

You know what, I have to tell you we have to stand by those and, you know, you may think Michele Bachmann is one of those; you may not. It doesn't matter to me what party they are. We must understand that this system, this progressive, corrupt system has money at their disposal of biblical proportions and anyone who stands up against them will be destroyed and they will do everything they can to destroy them. If you find a politician that is standing up, you dig deep. You've got our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

On Wednesday's TV show, Glenn Beck sat down with radio show host, author, political commentator, and film critic, Michael Medved.

Michael had an interesting prediction for the 2020 election outcome: a brokered convention by the DNC will usher in former First Lady Michelle Obama to run against President Donald Trump.

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On Thursday's "Glenn Beck Radio Program," BlazeTV's White House correspondent Jon Miller described the current situation in Virginia after Gov. Ralph Northam (D) declared a state of emergency and banned people carrying guns at Capitol Square just days before a pro-Second-Amendment rally scheduled on Martin Luther King Jr. Day.

Jon told Glenn that Gov. Northam and the Virginia Legislature are "trying to deprive the people of their Second Amendment rights" but the citizens of Virginia are "rising up" to defend their constitutional rights.

"I do think this is the flashpoint," Jon said. "They [Virginia lawmakers] are saying, 'You cannot exercise your rights ... and instead of trying to de-escalate the situation, we are putting pressure. We're trying to escalate it and we're trying to enrage the citizenry even more'."

Glenn noted how Gov. Northam initially blamed the threat of violence from Antifa for his decision to ban weapons but quickly changed his narrative to blame "white supremacists" to vilify the people who are standing up for the Second Amendment and the Constitution.

"What he's doing is, he's making all all the law-abiding citizens of Virginia into white supremacists," Glenn said.

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Ryan: Trump Louisiana Finale

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Part One. Part Two. Part Three.

At the end of Trump rallies, I would throw on my Carhartt jacket, sneak out of the press area, then blend in with everyone as they left, filing out through swinging doors.

Often, someone held the door open for me. Just 30 minutes earlier, the same person had most likely had most likely hissed at me for being a journalist. And now they were Sunday smiles and "Oh, yes, thank you, sir" like some redneck concierge.

People flooded out of the arena with the stupidity of a fire drill mishap, desperate to survive.

The air smacked you as soon as you crossed the threshold, back into Louisiana. And the lawn was a wasteland of camping chairs and coolers and shopping bags and to-go containers and soda cans and articles of clothing and even a few tents.

In Monroe, in the dark, the Trump supporters bobbled over mounds of waste like elephants trying to tiptoe. And the trash was as neutral to them as concrete or grass. They plodded over it because it, an object, had somehow gotten in their way.

It did not matter that they were responsible for this wreckage.Out in the sharp-edged moonlight, rally-goers hooted and yapped and boogied and danced, and the bbq food truck was all smoke and paper plates.

They were even more pumped than they had been before the rally, like 6,000 eight year olds who'd been chugging Mountain Dew for hours. Which made Donald Trump the father, the trooper, God of the Underworld, Mr. Elite, Sheriff on high horse, the AR-15 sticker of the family.

Ritualistic mayhem, all at once. And, there in Louisiana, Trump's supporters had gotten a taste of it. They were all so happy. It bordered on rage.

Still, I could not imagine their view of America. Worse, after a day of strange hostilities, I did not care.

My highest priority, my job as a reporter, was to care. To understand them and the world that they inhabit. But I did not give a damn and I never wanted to come back.

Worst of all, I would be back. In less than a week.

Was this how dogs felt on the 4th of July? Hunched in a corner while everyone else gets drunk and launches wailing light into the sky? configurations of blue and red and white.

It was 10:00 p.m. and we'd been traveling since 11:00 a.m., and we still had 5 hours to go and all I wanted was a home, my home, any home, just not here, in the cold sweat of this nowhere. Grey-mangled sky. No evidence of planes or satellites or any proof of modern-day. Just century-old bridges that trains shuffled over one clack at a time.

And casinos, all spangles and neon like the 1960s in Las Vegas. Kitchy and dumb, too tacky for lighthearted gambling. And only in the nicer cities, like Shreveport, which is not nice at all.

And swamp. Black water that rarely shimmered. Inhabited by gadflies and leeches and not one single fish that was pretty.

Full of alligators, and other killing types. The storks gnawing on frogs, the vultures never hungry. The coyotes with nobody to stop them and so much land to themselves. The roaches in the wild, like tiny wildebeests.

Then, the occasional deer carcass on the side of the road, eyes splayed as if distracted, tongue out, relaxed but empty. The diseased willows like skeletons in hairnets. The owls that never quit staring. A million facets of wilderness that would outlive us all.

Because Nature has poise. It thrives and is original.

Because silence is impossible. Even in an anechoic chamber, perfectly soundproofed, you can hear your own heartbeat, steady as a drum. A never-ending war.

I put "Headache" by Grouper on repeat as we glided west. We were deadlocked to asphalt, rubber over tarface.

And I thought about lines from a Rita Dove poem titled "I have been a stranger in a strange land"

He was off cataloging the universe, probably,
pretending he could organize
what was clearly someone else's chaos.

Wasn't that exactly what I was doing? Looking for an impossible answer, examining every single accident, eager for meaning? telling myself, "If it happens and matters the next year, in America, I want to be there, or to know what it means. I owe it to whoever cares to listen."

Humans are collectors and I had gone overboard.

Because maybe this wasn't even my home. These landmarks, what did they mean? Was I obvious here? When I smiled, did I trick them into believing that I felt some vague sense of approval? Or did my expressions betray me?

Out in all that garbage-streaked emptiness — despite the occasional burst of passing halogen — I couldn't tell if everything we encountered was haunted or just old, derelict, broken, useless. One never-ending landfill.

Around those parts, they'd made everything into junk. Homes. Roads. Glass. Nature. Life itself, they made into junk.

I cringed as we passed yet another deer carcass mounded on the side of the road.

As written in Job 35:11,

Who teaches us more than the beasts of the earth and makes us wiser than the birds in the sky?

Nobody. Look at nature and you feel something powerful. Look at an animal, in all of its untamable majesty, and you capture a deep love, all swept up in the power of creation. But, here, all I saw were poor creatures who people had slammed into and kept driving. Driving to where? For what reason? What exactly was so important that they left a trail of dead animals behind them?

So I crossed myself dolorously and said an "Our Father" and recited a stanza from Charles Bukowski's "The Laughing Heart"

you can't beat death but
you can beat death in life, sometimes.
and the more often you learn to do it,
the more light there will be.

Out here, nothing but darkness. Needing some light, by God. Give me something better than a Moon that hides like an underfed coward.

Jade told me about some of the more traumatic things she'd seen while working at the State Fair.

"Bro, they pull roaches out of the iced lemonade jugs and act like nothing happened."

"All right but what about the corn dogs?"

"You do not want to know, little bro."

She looked around in the quiet. "Back in the day, the Louisiana Congress refused to raise the drinking age from 18 to 21," she said. "They didn't want to lose all that drunk gambler money. So the federal government cut off funding to highways."

We glided through moon-pale landscape for an hour before I realized what she had meant. That there weren't any light poles or billboards along the road. Nothing to guide us or distract us. Just us, alone. And it felt like outer space had collapsed, swallowed us like jellybeans.

Like two teenagers playing a prank on the universe.

In the cozy Subaru Crosstrek, in the old wild night, brimming with the uncertainty of life and the nonchalance of failure, we paraded ourselves back to Dallas. Alive in the river silence that follows us everywhere.

New installments come Mondays and Thursdays. Next, the Iowa caucuses. Check out my Twitter. Email me at kryan@blazemedia.com

The Iowa primary is just around the corner, and concerns of election interference from the last presidential election still loom. Back in 2016, The Associated Press found that a majority of U.S. elections systems still use Windows 7 as an operating system, making them highly susceptible to bugs and errors. And last year, a Mississippi voter tried multiple times to vote for the candidate of his choice, but the system continuously switched his vote to the other candidate. It's pretty clear: America's voting systems desperately need an update.

That's where blockchain voting comes in.

Blockchain voting is a record-keeping system that's 100% verifiable and nearly impossible to hack. Blockchain, the newest innovation in cybersecurity, is set to grow into a $20 billion industry by 2025. Its genius is in its decentralized nature, distributing information throughout a network of computers, requiring would-be hackers to infiltrate a much larger system. Infiltrating multiple access points spread across many computers requires a significant amount of computing power, which often costs more than hackers expect to get in return.

Blockchain voting wouldn't allow for many weak spots. For instance, Voatz, arguably the leading mobile voting platform, requires a person to take a picture of their government-issued ID and a picture of themselves before voting (a feature, of course, not present in vote-by-mail, where the only form of identity verification is a handwritten signature, which is easily forgeable). Voters select their choices and hit submit. They then receive an immediate receipt of their choices via email, another security feature not present in vote-by-mail, or even in-person voting. And because the system operates on blockchain technology, it's nearly impossible to tamper with.

Votes are then tabulated, and the election results are published, providing a paper trail, which is a top priority for elections security experts.

The benefits of blockchain voting can't be dismissed. Folks can cast their vote from the comfort of their homes, offices, etc., vastly increasing the number of people who can participate in the electoral process. Two to three-hour lines at polling places, which often deter voters, would become significantly diminished.

Even outside of the voting increase, the upsides are manifold. Thanks to the photo identification requirements, voter fraud—whether real or merely suspected—would be eliminated. The environment would win, too, since we'd no longer be wasting paper on mail-in ballots. Moreover, the financial burden on election offices would be alleviated, because there's decreased staff time spent on the election, saving the taxpayer money.

From Oregon to West Virginia, elections offices have already implemented blockchain voting, and the results have been highly positive. For example, the city of Denver utilized mobile voting for overseas voters in their 2019 municipal elections. The system was secure and free of technical errors, and participants reported that it was very user-friendly. Utah County used the same system for their 2019 primary and general elections. An independent audit revealed that every vote that was cast on the app was counted and counted correctly. These successful test cases are laying the groundwork for even larger expansions of the program in 2020.

With this vital switch, our elections become significantly more secure, accurate, and efficient. But right now, our election infrastructure is a sitting duck for manipulation. Our current lack of election integrity undermines the results of both local and national elections, fans the flames of partisanship, and zaps voter confidence in the democratic system. While there's never a silver bullet or quick fix to those kinds of things, blockchain voting would push us much closer to a solution than anything else.

Chris Harelson is the Executive Director at Prosperity Council and a Young Voices contributor.