GLENN: From high above Times Square, this is the third most listened to show in all of America. We have Doug Hoffman. Doug Hoffman is a conservative candidate running for special election for New York's 23rd congressional district seat special election. Here's the recent poll: Democrat, 33, Republican 29. Conservative 23. And he's hacking off the GOP. Here's the interesting part of this. SEIU has endorsed the Democrat. ACORN and Newt Gingrich have endorsed the Republican who is pro card check and pro stimulus package. Huh.
PAT: Newt Gingrich?
GLENN: Newt Gingrich. Newt Gingrich.
PAT: That's disappointing.
GLENN: I have to tell you you are going to start running into this game. And God bless Newt Gingrich. I mean, I like Newt Gingrich. I think he is a brilliant strategist, et cetera, et cetera, but you are going to go into the old thinking here and that is if you don't if you start splitting up the eggs, you are going to have somebody else, you know, that has you know, that gets the bacon. So knock it off. Don't even think it through.
PAT: We're splitting up the eggs
GLENN: Get the bacon. I don't know what it means. So Doug Hoffman is on the phone with me now, and I don't know anything about Doug. I don't want to imply that this is an endorsement because I don't know him yet. But I thought we would get to know him because this is a this really is the moment that if the Republicans can get an ACORN endorsed Republican to run against the SEIU endorsed Democrat, and you actually fight about that like, oh, well, there's a good choice, then nothing's been learned. Nothing's been learned.
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Let's go to Doug Hoffman. Doug.
HOFFMAN: Good morning, Glenn. It's a pleasure to be on your show this morning.
GLENN: Got to ask you some simple questions and I apologize to do this but we have very little time together and, you know, people are going to have to make a decision.
GLENN: Have you ever slept with any interns?
HOFFMAN: No, I haven't.
GLENN: Have you ever been arrested?
GLENN: You smoke dope?
GLENN: What else? Have you ever embezzled?
GLENN: Are you just an attorney?
PAT: Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party?
HOFFMAN: Absolutely not.
GLENN: Do you believe in the free market system?
HOFFMAN: Absolutely do.
PAT: Are you a fan of Chairman Mao?
PAT: All right. Is he your favorite he is not your favorite political philosopher?
HOFFMAN: Absolutely no.
GLENN: What do you think you would do if Van Jones, you found him in your administration?
HOFFMAN: I would fire him immediately.
GLENN: In the middle of a night, on a Sunday, holiday weekend?
GLENN: Publicly? Okay, good. All right. So Doug, have you ever run before, for anything?
HOFFMAN: Absolutely not. I have never wanted to be a politician, and I never had the desire until recently. But I do believe that our founding fathers envisioned that normal people would go to Washington to represent us, and I think it's time for people like you and me to stand up and do something about it.
GLENN: Okay, not me. Now, you can stand up.
HOFFMAN: You don't want to do it?
GLENN: Ron, I think people will lose their soul. I really do. You've got to get out. You have to make a promise to yourself. You have to have respect for what you're entangled with. You know what I mean? You are going to go if you go to Washington, you are going to be I think with damn near if not the actual powers of darkness, and you have to know that you are human and that you are not invincible, and the day you start to say, hey, you know what, I think I'm important, is the day you begin your soul begins to die.
HOFFMAN: Right. That's what happens to them. But I think I can go and represent the people and be one of the people, and I believe this is a defining moment for the party. As a lifelong Republican it's time for me and everybody else to reclaim the soul of the Republican Party.
GLENN: So you didn't leave the Republican Party; they left you?
HOFFMAN: Absolutely. Especially in the candidate that they picked.
GLENN: Tell me about the other candidate and then tell me about you.
HOFFMAN: Okay. The candidate that they picked is an assemblywoman in the Albany legislature. She's been in it for 10 years, 11 years. She's a career politician obviously, and the conservative party in New York State which, by the way, is a very strong party, and candidates can win on that line, ranks all the New York State legislators and out of a possible score of 100, this lady received 15. And 46 Democrats had a better conservative rating than she did. She's endorsed by the Working Families Party, which is related to ACORN.
GLENN: Oh, yeah. It's an absolute socialist nightmare.
HOFFMAN: And one of her biggest supporters during this campaign is the Daily Kos.
GLENN: Oh, you've got to be kidding.
HOFFMAN: Absolutely. So
GLENN: Wait a minute. I may vote for the Democrat. If those are my two choices, tell me about the Democrat.
HOFFMAN: Well, the Democrat is probably more conservative than she is, but unfortunately the Democrat is heavily supported by the National Democratic Party to the tunes of millions of dollars in advertising, and he's going to be a Pelosi puppet by the time he gets to Washington.
GLENN: Okay. So Doug, Democrat is pulling at 33%, Republican 29, and you're at 23. The GOP is very upset with you, right?
HOFFMAN: Well, they were originally. The GOP leaders are upset with me, but the Republicans around the district are thanking me for stepping up to the plate and giving them a choice in this election of a real common sense conservative Reagan Republican.
GLENN: Give me some of the common sense. What are the problems and then your solutions?
HOFFMAN: All right. Well, basically my platform is for less government regulations and red tape, less spending, less taxes and basically getting our freedoms back that are being taken away one by one by the legislation that we've been we see passing lately.
GLENN: What would you do with healthcare?
HOFFMAN: Healthcare, I would not vote for any of the bills that have been coming through or any of the changes to it because of the amount of money that it's going to cost us. What I would do with it first before I passed legislation is to go after tort reform, number one. Number two is competition between states of the insurance companies. There's over 1300 insurance companies providing insurance.
GLENN: Hold on just a second. Hold on. Pat.
GLENN: Are you thinking about leaving Jackie F. For him? Because I'm thinking about leaving Tania right now for him. I mean, he is talking about competition between insurance companies with different states.
PAT: He hasn't fed me steak yet.
GLENN: He hasn't fed me steak, but I'm still thinking about
PAT: I'm not quite there but I'm getting closer.
GLENN: Let him keep talking. Go ahead. Give me another drink.
HOFFMAN: Okay. And basically if there's $120 billion of waste and fraud in the Medicare and Medicaid system, let's find it before we spend it. We're not going to spend it before we find it. Show me.
STU: That's a great point because that is something that is consistently thrown around. If you save $120 billion, do that first. Prove it and then maybe we'll think about giving it to you back.
PAT: What about cap and trade? How do you feel about that?
HOFFMAN: Cap and trade I'm totally opposed to it. More government regulations, more red tape, more hidden fees and penalties which are really taxes.
GLENN: Do you need another drink? Do you need another drink? I mean, does he need to take you
PAT: Maybe one more.
GLENN: Give one more, give him another gin and tonic here and Ingle be yours for the night.
PAT: Comprehensive immigration reform. How do you feel about comprehensive immigration reform? Because family values don't stop at the Rio Grande.
HOFFMAN: Exactly, exactly.
PAT: Where do you stand on amnesty?
HOFFMAN: I do not believe on giving amnesty. I do believe, again, in giving better easier regulations and red tape to make workers that want to come into this country, giving them green cards easier so that we know they're in here legally and we know that they go out when they're
PAT: You know what? That's the discussion we should be having.
GLENN: Okay. Now hang on just a second. So you want to make it easier for immigrants to come here through the front door, which I'm totally behind.
GLENN: Well, Doug, how are you ever going to get everybody who's already here out?
HOFFMAN: Well, that, I don't have an instant solution for but we certainly have to find a way that we don't have people sneaking across our borders.
GLENN: Okay, I got one for you.
HOFFMAN: Coming in.
GLENN: Got one for you. Doug, let me help you out. I'm going to give you a drink. I'm buying a cocktail for you.
HOFFMAN: There it is.
GLENN: Well, they seem to find their way here. I'm guessing they will be able to find themselves going the other direction. It's just reverse the map. However, we need an incentive for doing that and that is why we're going after all of the companies that are hiring these people. They came here for jobs. If the jobs dry up, they will go home. And those jobs are currently being needed by Americans who are here and we know that pay taxes. So let's go after the giant corporations who are living on the 21st century version of the slave trade, huh? Huh?
GLENN: Now how much do you want to
HOFFMAN: That's a good drink.
PAT: How about these three words: Enforce the law.
HOFFMAN: Absolutely. That will work.
GLENN: That's good. That's good. There you go.
PAT: They self support. And it's worked in every, virtually every city that's tried that.
HOFFMAN: Right. But one thing I was trying to get across, Glenn, is that we need to make it easy for skilled professionals and doctors and scientists and engineers that can come in here and help us out and then go home after they've done the job, we need to make it easier for them to come in.
GLENN: Absolutely. Look, before all of this was in the news, what's his name, gates, Bill Gates was saying Microsoft is going to fall behind because we can't get the green cards, we can't get the Visas for it to come in and work. We're losing all of these big brains that have always gone to colleges here and then wanted to stay here because of the opportunity. And we can't keep them here anymore and our government has been saying, well, we need to send them home, we need 0 send. What? Let's keep the best and the brightest here.
HOFFMAN: That's what I'm saying, that's absolutely what I'm saying is America's the melting pot and we need to get highly skilled people that can help us out to stay here.
STU: Isn't the biggest thing you have to cross here, the biggest line, though, is to convince people in your district that it's not a wasted vote to vote for you?
HOFFMAN: That's true. But I think we crossed that line about a week ago. The polls that you were quoting shows that my numbers are going up and her numbers are dropping like a rock.
GLENN: All you have to do is just say she is endorsed by ACORN and the Working Family Party. I think that's all you have to do.
GLENN: Hey, what are you going to do about nuclear proliferation? "My opponent was endorsed by ACORN and she's a Republican."
HOFFMAN: Right. Well, that certainly helped a lot.
HOFFMAN: The recent ACORN problems.
HOFFMAN: But you have to understand that this is not a typical two way race. We can win this, and historical precedent shows that a conservative candidate running against two liberals can win. And probably the best example of that was Senator Buckley. And also you have to understand that this is a rural conservative district and that that it has an army base in here. I'm an army veteran. The 10th Mountain Division is stationed here. That's one of the highest deployed units to Afghanistan and Iraq, and I am the only candidate that really matches the ideals and values of the voters of the 23rd district.
GLENN: Why do you do for a living now?
HOFFMAN: I'm a CPA and I'm a small business owner and
GLENN: Have you thought about just living off the government dole? At any time have you just thought, I'm just going to live, sponge off the government and take money from other people?
HOFFMAN: Well, I tell you I started out as the poorest kid in my community, and I always, I was taught that hard work and the American dream is possible, and I've lived the American dream. And no, I never thought of living off the government.
GLENN: All right. Now, let me ask you this, because this is what Katie Couric will ask you. You've said in the past on hate shows like Glenn Beck that you were the poorest in your community. Well, we looked into your community. It was Greenwich, Connecticut.
HOFFMAN: Well, Sernack lake, New York is not Greenwich, Connecticut. And the economy up here is probably one of the most difficult economies to survive in in the nation. And, you know, furthermore, we this community was basically high unemployment and low opportunities in the 1980s when the Olympics came back to Lake Placid and I came back here as a young accountant and became the corporate controller, and I started working for the Olympic committee when they only had 12 people and we put on one of the most successful Olympics, and I was the CFO of the Olympics. At 27 I handled a budget of $150 million, and we put on one of the best Olympics we ever saw. We created the foundation for the Miracle in Lake Placid when the U.S. hockey team beat Russia. And that's the type of people we are around here.
GLENN: All right. So
HOFFMAN: We don't sit back. We work hard.
GLENN: Are you a man of faith?
HOFFMAN: Yes, I am.
GLENN: Can you look at your wife you have a wife and children?
HOFFMAN: I have a wife of 36 years. I have three grown children and four grandchildren. And by the way, I'm a member of the 9/12 group.
GLENN: God bless you. Is there anything and you don't have to answer this. Just ask yourself this. Is there anything that you're afraid of?
HOFFMAN: I'm afraid of the liberals ruining our country, afraid of them spending money we don't have, and I'm afraid of the resulting taxes that are going to come about.
GLENN: Is there anything that you are personally afraid of?
HOFFMAN: Personally afraid of?
GLENN: You don't have to answer that. The reason why I ask you that question is because you are going to face it. If you actually get in there and you actually are trying to make a difference and you are going to face it now. If you actually start to rise above these people in the polls, they will bring whatever it is you are most afraid of to play in your life. You just have to know at this point if you can conquer that.
HOFFMAN: I know I can conquer it. As I said, at age 27 I conquered the Olympics, and I had a tiger by the tail then, and I can take the tiger now.
GLENN: Okay. Doug Hoffman is his name. Doug Hoffman for congress. Are you how is your fundraising going?
HOFFMAN: Well, that's we're certainly not getting the money that the Republicans and the Democrats are pumping in this area, but we're getting money from all around the country.
GLENN: Isn't the, one of the things that was happening here in Washington in New York City yesterday with the president where he did that $30,000 or $15,000 a plate dinner, wasn't that to raise against you?
HOFFMAN: Isn't that amazing? Little old me. The president has to come in and try to beat me.
PAT: So what's how do people contribute if they
HOFFMAN: Well, they can go to DougHoffmanforcongress.com and with your help we can win this.
GLENN: All right. I tell you what, Doug, I'm going to have you on tomorrow. I'll have you on the television show tomorrow and introduce you to people. But not because I necessarily support Doug. He seems like a nice guy. But that's for you to decide. But you'll see tomorrow night on the TV show.