| Guilty: Liberal "Victims" and Their Assault on America|
By Ann Coulter
GLENN: Let's go to Ann Coulter who is with us now. Hello, Ann, welcome to the program.
COULTER: Nice to be here, Glenn.
GLENN: Where are you?
COULTER: In the nation's capital.
GLENN: Oh, I'm sorry for that.
COULTER: With so much, so much hard work that's done. In Washington, the safe streets program from Washington because I thought all these government bureaucrats, if they had actual jobs, they would just screw everything up. But now since they are the only ones with jobs, I'm feeling a little resentful.
GLENN: Yeah. Well, you know, at least you I know that they are now talking about taking the New York Times list and splitting the conservative books off onto their own list because apparently nobody else can compete with us. But
COULTER: It is really something. And it's been that way going back to my second book, Slander. I have a chapter on the publishing industry and books, and it has been that way for a long time.
COULTER: The difference is now it's not as hard for us to find publishers.
GLENN: Yeah, we sell books
COULTER: Leo Moore's book on Chappaquiddick, no one would publish that book.
GLENN: Now they're I saw today on television they are standing in front of this 1500 person line to see Sarah Palin. And television, they're just like, "I mean, there's 1500 people in line!" They can't get their arms around this.
COULTER: Well, you know, one thing the media did not report during the campaign and I know, hold onto your hats, the media didn't report something, was that often Sarah Palin would show up at the same venue where Obama had just spoken and she would get twice as big a crowd, you know. We kept hearing about the fainting crowds wherever Obama would go. No, no, no. Sarah Palin was more of a draw, which is probably why Senator McCain got a little bitter and resentful and the McCain camp started sniping at her, but I guess she is getting her payback now.
GLENN: Have you read her book?
COULTER: I've only read the first 30 pages. I haven't gotten to the part I'm dying to get to, which is the payback to the McCain camp, and I'm really looking forward to that, if anyone ever deserved to do it. I mean, everyone says, oh, isn't this mean of her? What, she can't respond? I mean, Obama's autobiography he attacks me by name. I didn't even know who he was. It's not like he was responding. In this case she didn't start it.
GLENN: Ann, you know, it's popular now to say that people like me or Sarah Palin are going to destroy the Republican Party, and I have to tell ya if standing up for principles, standing up for small government, standing up for an end of corruption, standing up for accountability destroys a party, it should be destroyed.
COULTER: Don't worry, Glenn, you are not going to destroy it. You are making it stronger. I know you like to say you are not a Republican or a Democrat but when you have, you know, what was it, more than 200 Democrats voting for the cap and tax bill and only seven Republicans voting for it, there is a difference in the parties.
GLENN: Oh, yeah. No, no, hang on just a second. When I say that I mean I'll vote, I'll generally vote Republican. But I vote for anybody that will reflect my values and do the right thing.
COULTER: Right. Unless you are in Connecticut voting for Lieberman.
GLENN: I mean, jeez, for the
COULTER: You are voting respect can, baby cakes.
GLENN: It's a
COULTER: Oh, you are in Connecticut.
GLENN: Yeah, I am.
COULTER: My hometown.
GLENN: I do vote for you just called me baby cakes. We should write that down. And, you know, I just
COULTER: But if I could just, in defense of you, Sarah Palin and all patriotic Americans, remember, you know, when they start saying, oh, these people are going to rip, these conservatives, they are going to rip the Republican Party apart, remember how they thought John McCain was going to bring it together and attract all those independents and they said the same thing about Bob Dole and the same thing about George Bush, Sr.. curiously the mainstream media does not seem to have the Republican Party's best interests in mind when it tells us who the good candidates are and who the bad candidates are.
GLENN: Well, I don't think they necessarily do it with any malicious intent. Maybe they do. But let's not assign malicious intent. They just have no idea. I remember, and I've told this story before and I don't mean to throw the person under the bus that did it because they really tried and worked hard. But I remember when I was over at CNN and I asked one of the writers, can you write a tribute to Ronald Reagan. Well, this was a flaming liberal and worked their heart out trying to get it right. I read it and it was ridiculous. They had no idea. And they really tried and they were like, huh, huh? It's good, right? It works? They had no clue as to why people
COULTER: That's probably why they submit it to the New York Times for their obituary because that obituary had no clue. It was, I thought a guy named Iran Contra had died.
GLENN: (Laughing). So your number one best selling book, Guilty: Liberal "Victims" and Their Assault on America just released in paperback. Boy, I've got to tell you the conservatives of this country are going to save the publishing industry, and I mean that sincerely, save the publishing industry from complete ruin this year.
GLENN: I mean
COULTER: Right. It really is stunning, and as I say, it has been like this for a long, long time. What's curious is that even, even with the basically, you know, half century success, run away success of look, conservatives read; liberals don't. This explains a lot of the difference in our positions. I mean, you'll notice this
GLENN: You don't know if that's true.
COULTER: No, really you will notice this. You could meet a hot dog vendor, a truckdriver, a busy executive, a hedge fund manager. If they are conservative, within, you know, two seconds they will start listing off all the books they have just read. Conservatives read a lot. That's why they are conservative. They are not accepting what they are getting, you know, directly spoon fed to them from the mainstream media. But even with the success, I mean, it's much like Fox. Instead of imitating the successful program, you know, Steve Jobs comes out with the iPhone. Everybody goes to work to try to imitate it. Do other networks like the failing CNN try to imitate Fox News? Do the other publishing houses try to imitate? Well, they are actually a little bit more. Only in the past I'd say seven years.
GLENN: They are getting stronger and stronger now.
COULTER: Yes, it's not as hard to get published.
GLENN: When I first joined Simon and Schuster, who is your publishing house?
COULTER: Crown Forum, part of Random House.
GLENN: When I first joined Simon and Schuster, the publishing imprint that I went under was really kind of the pariah, it was kind of the, you know, out in the outer spheres. They were like, I don't know, we'll try this crazy conservative thing. Now my imprint which is with Simon and Schuster, the Mercury label is we're in all divisions. We sit down with everybody and they really get it and they are really embracing and they are seeing, which I don't think they really saw, you know, five years ago and we were just a small part of this. But I don't think they really saw the conservative market or the rest of the country outside of the island of Manhattan as book readers and buyers
GLENN: And now they do.
COULTER: Right, right. In my case it's kind of an interesting story. I mean, after my first book, high crimes and misdemeanors, which was a best seller published by Regnery, normally the expression in the publishing industry is you don't make money on your first best seller. You make money on the advance to the next book. Not if you're conservative. You have trouble even getting the next book published. But thank you, Steve Ross, at Crown, part of Random House. Nobody would publish the book. I had a contract with Harper Collins. They killed it. My agents shopped it around and finally Steve Ross, you know, he cared about selling books. He also published Obama's book, by the way. He has a nonideological eye for what will sell and that always helps conservatives. And he saw it was already selling on Amazon. It's still sitting on my computer. There was no book and it was selling on Amazon. And he picked it up and it was the number one book all summer. So God bless you, Steve Ross.
GLENN: Let me change topics here. There is a disconnect I think with President Obama and we were just talking about this, Pat. Help me explain this. We were just talking about this off the air that there is a and I sensed this prior to, I remember doing a monologue or two over at CNN that said if this guy is not what he claims he is, he is in deep, deep trouble. He is now, we are, you know, the million jobs saved or created, that's coming undone. Our deficit has just clicked past $12 trillion, projected to be $14.4 trillion next year. While he is saying if this deficit continues to grow, the world will lose faith in the dollar and we can't let that happen. They are talking about another stimulus package. He's double speak city. And it's you know what frightens me, Ann, is you don't get away with that for very long. These people have not designed a long term strategy. This is a very short term strategy which means you either lose it in the end or you have another exit strategy.
COULTER: Right, right. It will be curious to see what happens because it does seem as if we are headed for disaster on every front, both in national defense and on the economy. I mean, speaking from Washington here, well, the one place where people are still hiring is in the government. I really think they have no sense of what's going on in America where people are losing jobs, losing jobs, it's just numbers on a page here as long as the Department of Health and Human Services is still hiring. But, you know, a quarter million people lost their jobs last month. Now admittedly most of them were White House czars but still that's very, very bad.
GLENN: You're welcome.
COULTER: And instead, you know, dealing with the jobs situation what Obama wants to do is redo our entire healthcare system. Well, that's running up against a brick wall not only with public opinion in America but with our creditor.
COULTER: The Chinese who aren't wild about the profligate spending of the country they are lending to. If they stop buying American treasuries, the whole thing finally blows up. And that is a big problem, which is why there has to be, there has to be. This is a very important point. There has to be rationing of healthcare. That is the only way the Obama administration can sell healthcare reform to the Chinese. And they are the ones who have to approve now or the whole deficit comes undone.
GLENN: So do you believe that that is because I'm doing a couple of segments tonight on rationing of healthcare that it's already here and it's mammograms. Do you believe that is a sign of the things to come, that this is I mean, really? All of a sudden we decide, you don't need to they are even saying don't even do self exams now.
COULTER: I know.
GLENN: What are you talking about? How much money did we spend on teaching people how to do self exams and how many commercials have we done and how many I mean, teach it, teach it, teach it, self exam, self exam, get it by 40. And now they are saying, whatever, so you've got to so it looks like you've got a third breast now; check it in ten years.
COULTER: Well, it certainly raises those concerns. I don't know if that's what's going on here. I mean, I've heard this before from other people that you can I mean, it's been sort of trickling out before it became official government policy. And by the way, if you wait until it's, you know, full blown cancer, it can end up being more expensive. But there is absolutely no question that there is going to be massive rationing and this is what happens when you have a few smart guys and commissions in Washington deciding how healthcare will be run, how the economy will be run, how you will how your pension will be provided for. Interestingly enough those things work out more smoothly and efficiently when you have 300 million people making individual decisions for themselves. Something known as freedom. But this is the history of liberalism, replacing things that work with things that sounded good on paper. Though I am concerned this week, by the way, Glenn, the poll numbers are looking pretty close on healthcare. The opposition to healthcare in the polls among American voters has been going down or the opposition has been going up, the support has been going down. Suddenly in this last week the polls are neck and neck, and that's all the Democrats need. I mean, they do have a majority in the House, they have a majority in the Senate and they have the presidency. So the good money says some heinous healthcare program will pass.
GLENN: No, it will.
COULTER: And the only thing that can stop it is going to be the American people. The same way the American people stopped the amnesty for illegals.
GLENN: Okay, hang on just a second. One more thing. I just got some breaking, some breaking news. Wanted to get this in right away. The president has just announced that he is, quote, very close to a decision on I'm quoting, very close, quoting, very close to a decision to address the levels in Afghanistan and will make an announcement, quote, in the next several weeks. End quote.
COULTER: This is such a disaster. I mean, we've been running down healthcare, oh, wah, it's just one this was the war he campaigned on saying this was the war of necessity and now we don't even know if he will make a decision on more troops by the end of his administration.
GLENN: No, no. In the next several weeks. He's rushing, but in a very slow, almost crazily slow sort of fashion.
GLENN: Yeah, almost. Almost like there's another agenda, you know. I don't know. All right, Ann Coulter. Her book is now out in bookstores everywhere, Guilty: Liberal "Victims" and Their Assault on America. Always a pressure to talk to you, Ann.
COULTER: Great to talk to you, Glenn, bye bye.
PAT: It's in paperback, by the way.
GLENN: Did I say paperback?
PAT: It's been out for a while. It's out in paperback.
GLENN: Thank you, Pat.
PAT: Sure. Always happy to help.