Glenn Beck: America's Prophet



America's Prophet

FEILER: I'm wonderful, Glenn, and thank you for your very kind words and for your wisdom and your support. It means a lot. Thank you very much.

GLENN: I have ‑‑ my daughters, when they were young, they used to go to school, and I'd pick them up every day and I'd say, what did you learn today? And they would talk about whatever, and I could never talk about math. And I'd be like, whatever. And then they would ‑‑ and I would ask them, what did you learn in history? And they would tell me. And they were always bored with it. And I would say, well, let me tell you the story. And I would tell them the story. And they grew up. Both of them are studying history. And they are ‑‑ they both adopted my philosophy of, you are just, you are not a good storyteller. If you are bored by history, it's because somebody's not a good storyteller. This is the best storytelling of history I think I've ever read. I mean, do you consider this a history book?

FEILER: I consider myself a storyteller. Let's start with that.

GLENN: Okay.

FEILER: What I've tried to do my entire life is go out and tell stories. And I grew up in Savannah, Georgia, five generations. I have lived a life where I've gone out, entered different worlds, kind of followed questions that I had in my mind and set out to answer them. So I had spent, before working on this book, a decade retracing the Bible through the Middle East or walking the Bible, Abraham in a show I hosted on PBS called walking the Bible, and I just stumbled onto this story. I was spending more time at home. You mentioned your daughters. My wife had given birth to identical twins and we started traveling. I went to Plymouth as you mentioned and I ‑‑

GLENN: Tell this story first before you leave, stop here at Plymouth for a second. Tell the story of the first Sabbath on these shores.

FEILER: It's not, it's a story that is ‑‑ I never heard this story.

GLENN: Never heard it?

FEILER: So I go to Plymouth and I get on a boat and we sail on Plymouth harbor to this little tiny island that you cannot go to, that is inaccessible, that is in Plymouth harbor. And that is the island essentially where America began. So the pilgrims, they are living in England and they go to Holland. They sail, and you talk about Moses. They are feeling oppressed, right? So what do they do? They cross a tumultuous see, they go to an undeveloped wilderness, they set out to create a new promised land. The Bibles that they carried on the Mayflower were emblazoned with that picture of Moses. And the first thing they do when they get to Cape Cod is get down on their knees and thank God for allowing them to cross the Red Sea. But they know they can't live out in province at the very end of Cape Cod. They are hungry, they are out of hope, they are out of food, they have nowhere to go. They send out a small expeditionary force of 20 of these pilgrims and some of the men on this boat, and it crashes. Because you've got a bad stormy night and they're fleeing, the Indians were out there. They crash and they ‑‑ basically the oars break, everything. And they end up on this little tiny island. And they dry their oars, they get off on the island and they wake up the next morning and they realize that it is the Sabbath. And they are not going to travel on the Sabbath. They are deep, deep into the Old Testament and so they spend a day fleeing for their lives, resting and paying tribute to God. And they have service and they take a day off and they rest. And then they go into Plymouth harbor.

GLENN: You know, it's interesting because there's always the argument of, you know, is this a Christian nation, is this, what is this. You know, the answer that you come away with in reading, you know, the words of the founders is you can say that they all had a different view of Christianity or whatever, but they were deeply God‑fearing people. They're this ‑‑ that the idea of the Old Testament, this was real to them.

FEILER: That's such an important point, Glenn, because they didn't have the distance now that we all have now. Archeology, history, all these things that weren't even invented yet. So they didn't know this distance to the text. To them it was real. And what it was most of all, it was a precedent. It was an example that somebody else had been oppressed. Why is this story of Moses so important? It is fundamental, you can be in a difficult place, you can in a challenging place, a dark and dim place and you can imagine that there is a better world. And that for the pilgrims for the founding fathers, for generations and generations of Americans.

GLENN: For us.

FEILER: And today the reason for us ‑‑ I've written for twelve years books about the Bible but I have not written one that so resonates with the moment as America's Prophet does because we are once more in will challenging times.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh. We are chaining, we have the chains ‑‑ you know, I have to tell you there's ‑‑ every chapter of this I love. But the chapter on the Statue of Liberty, knowing, you know, I've read a million times the chains. But it never came to life to me. The tablets that she holds. Explain just a little bit of the symbology of the Statue of Liberty.

FEILER: It grew out of the assassination of Lincoln which I personally had not known and American lovers in France wanted to pay tribute to the assassinated president and to the American journey of freedom by building a Statue of Liberty. So Frédéric Bartholdi, the sculptor used the Roman goddess of freedom but adopted two symbols from Moses, the spikes of light around her head and the tablet in her arms, both of which comes from the moment Moses climbs down Mt. Sinai with the law, with the Ten Commandments. So 250 years after the pilgrims sailed into Plymouth harbor comparing their journey to Moses, new immigrants including many of the people in this studio where we're sitting now, the ancestors of these people floated into New York harbor and looked up, saw this nimbus of light, the outstretched arm and it forever secured America's place as the new promised land because that's what it is, Glenn. It's a sense of hope in a difficult place. And that's what's going on today.

GLENN: I also ‑‑ and correct me if I'm wrong because maybe I have this wrong. But I also have the ‑‑ walked away having the distinct impression that there was something else going on with the Statue of Liberty, that it was a gift but it was also a dual gift almost to themselves over in France because they were trying to hold us up. Explain this part.

FEILER: Well, because the French essentially ‑‑ what was going on was a battle in France at the time between what was going to be the future of France and it was basically the Democrats, if you will, the people who were interested in Republican democracy in France who wanted to tell to the French that they could have an alternative to the king and imperial authorities. So it was a way of saying we're going to make this connection and thereby inspire the French and simultaneously inspire the Americans. And to me what I love about the statue, and it's not far from where I live in Brooklyn today, is that it is poised forever on the promised land. So that when Ronald Reagan, in 1986 on the 100th anniversary of the statue, goes there and gives this gorgeous speech in which he links America from the pilgrims all the way up to today and says I have always believed that God somehow placed this country here as a symbol of freedom. People came from all over the world and it embodied the idea of a new promised land. And it's one of the most beautiful speeches Reagan ever gave. And he links the stories going all the way back to the pilgrims, all the way back to the founding fathers as you have done here today all the way back to the Statue of Liberty. The great icons of America, Statue of Liberty, the Liberty Bell with the quote from Moses, the pilgrims inspired by Moses, the founding fathers wanting Moses on the seal, all the way through. You cannot separate biblical values from American values.

GLENN: The Supreme Court even looks at Moses as they are sitting at the bench, if they look up, if I'm not mistaken, at the painting of all the great law‑givers, but Moses is their central figure.

FEILER: Six representations of Moses on the Supreme Court, in the chambers, on the frieze, in the chamber, and there's a great story about it that's actually not even in my book. There are two tablets, right? And the tablet that's showing in the painting in the Supreme Court chamber is the one that says don't murder, don't steal, don't commit adultery. But the Hebrew word for lo which is the no is covered up. So the actual painting says "Steal, murder, and disrespect your parents."

GLENN: The name of the book is America's Prophet.

I want to go back to the Statue of Liberty again and I want to see if I have captured in my own head the point of what you were trying to, one of the ‑‑ I think it was a more subtle point in what you were trying to make. You tell the story about the woman who wrote the famous poem.

FEILER: Emma Lazarus.

GLENN: Tell that story real quick.

FEILER: She was a Jew living in New York in great splendor and she wasn't particularly adapted to the Jews, but when the Jews starting coming over oppressed in Russia, she kind of had a reconnection to them and she wrote this poem, it was a fundraising thing that didn't really work and it wasn't until a generation later that it kind of went on kind of retroactively linking the plight of the Statue of Liberty to the immigrants.

GLENN: So what I see is that the French wanted to salute us but also we're trying to say, look, everything is destroyed. I mean, this old stuff, it doesn't work anymore, right?

FEILER: Yes, yes.

GLENN: So we've always read this poem as, Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest‑tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door.

I've always read it in my head like that. After I read your book, may I reinterpret and tell me if I have it right, that it is a ‑‑ it should be read like this, because it is not a message necessarily to the poor as much as it is a message to the old world.

FEILER: Absolutely.

GLENN: Where it should be read like this:


Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,


With conquering limbs astride from land to land;


Here at our sea‑washed, sunset gates shall stand


A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame


Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name


Mother of Exiles. From her beacon‑hand


Glows world‑wide welcome; her mild eyes command


The air‑bridged harbor that twin cities frame.


"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" Cries she


With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,


Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,


The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.


Send these, the homeless, tempest‑tost to me,


I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

Shouldn't it be read more like that? It was, you send me your rejects and they will succeed here. They will be free and everything can be done. It wasn't, it wasn't so much pity on them as much as it was you are enslaving. I can take the dread, the people you reject and they will be kings here.

FEILER: Not ‑‑ but not that, not the old, not the storied pomp. I mean, is there any more word that captures the kind of heraldry of the kings and queens? Not, not, not. But, but, but. But hope. But light. But opportunity. And now I'll read back to you if we might what Ronald Reagan said 100 years later when he stood there and he said, I have always believed there was some divine providence that placed this great land here between the two great oceans to be found by a special kind of people from every corner of the world who had a special love for freedom and a special courage that enabled them to leave their own land, leave their friends and their country men and come to this new and strange land to build a new world of peace and freedom and hope. That's the essential idea of the Moses story. Not but. You can leave the slavery of the past. You can leave the horrific. And Egypt was the superpower at the time. And you can go plunge through those waters, persevere through the dryness and set out to create a new promised land. It's a land of hope. It is a narrative of hope. It offers people the opportunity themselves to create a better world. As Shimon Peres once said to me, the Egyptians build pyramids, the Israelites build stories. And that's it. America has always been based on an idea and has been based on a spiritual connection between these people and God. And you cannot separate America from these biblical values, which is often what happens today.

GLENN: The name of the book is America's Prophet. If you buy ‑‑ and I've got four out this year. If you can only buy one book, buy a second one and make it America's ‑‑ no, buy this book, America's Prophet. It is absolutely fantastic. And I have to tell you, Bruce, you made me want to leave what I do for a living and go write history books because I was in the bell tower with the Liberty Bell. I was at Plymouth rock with you. I was in the Statue of Liberty with you. It is a fantastic book. I cannot recommend it high enough. Thank you.

FEILER: My pleasure. Thank you very much.

CNN reporter Jim Acosta was confronted at CPAC by The Federalist reporter David Marcus with a valid question: "When are you guys going to start covering Cuomo?" His answer — or, really, lack of an answer — perfectly demonstrates why he was earlier surrounded by CPAC attendees chanting, "CNN sucks!"

On the "Glenn Beck Radio Program" Tuesday, Glenn and producer Stu Burguiere react to a video clip of the exchange with Acosta, as well as the mainstream media's double standards when it comes to Democratic New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo.

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Glenn Beck can't help but wonder, "What is wrong with us?" in light of the Left's latest move — canceling six Dr. Seuss books due to "hurtful and wrong" illustrations — that takes America one step closer to complete insanity. And now, school districts are jumping on board after President Joe Biden seems to have dropped Dr. Seuss from the White House's annual "Read Across America Day" proclamation.

On the radio program Tuesday, Glenn argued that deleting books is the perfect example of fascism, and asked when we as a country will finally realize it.

"They are banning Dr. Seuss books. How much more do you need to see before all of America wakes up? ... This is fascism!" Glenn said. "We don't destroy books. What is wrong with us, America?"

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Former Democratic presidential candidate and Hawaii representative Tulsi Gabbard and Glenn Beck don't agree much on policy, but they're in lockstep on principles.

On "The Glenn Beck Podcast" this week, Tulsi spoke with Glenn about one of her last acts in Congress, introducing the "Protect Women's Sports Act," which she says would "strengthen, clarify, and uphold the intent of Title IX to provide a level playing field for girls and women in sports." But since then, the Biden administration has gone in the opposite direction, and has supported allowing biological men to compete in women's sports.

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Later this week, former President Trump will attend CPAC and give his first major policy appearance since leaving office. Sources close to the President reveal he will focus on "the future of the Republican Party and the conservative movement."

The future of the GOP is a question that demands real discussion before elections in 2022 and 2024. Right now, I can see three possible answers for how you act:

  1. Those in power and senior positions will ignore the reasons behind Donald Trump winning in 2016. They will be vindicated in their minds because they outlasted him, as they view DC as a job for life. These leaders will go back to business as usual and seek forgiveness from the left, hoping for unity and acceptance in the future.
  2. The second outcome is another section of the party that is understandably very angry over the left's Presidents treatment. They still support and believe in Trump. They think it's time to take off the gloves and treat Biden/the left exactly how they treated Trump.
  3. The few policy positions offered in public will be centered solely around opposing the left. They will also make the case how the left suck, are dangerous, and how you need them in power. The next four years are merely a countdown for Trump to run again and right the wrong of 2020.
  4. The third outcome is very similar to the second, but with one key difference. While they appreciate everything Trump accomplished while in office, they feel it's time to unite behind another candidate.
Question

Which of these three positions will work best for the American people? Which helps built a political base for elections in both 2022 and 2024?

If you seek to help save America, it is critical to do some soul searching. Whether you love or hate him, Donald Trump got 75 million votes and made advancements in key demographics. What did he do well that you can develop further? In what areas was he poor, and how can you improve?

I want to raise six principled points everyone on the right should be forced to consider in the run-up to 2024.

1 - Understanding American Exceptionalism

FACT: America is an exceptional nation. If you read enough of world history, you will find ample evidence that America acted in ways that made it unique and significantly different from other countries in the past and modern times. These reasons must be understood and promoted through the culture and body politic.

One of those reasons is the layout of your Declaration of Independence. If you look around politics today, you will see people on all political sides telling you what they hate, why the other side is the enemy, and how they must be defeated.

In the Declaration of Independence, Jefferson also made that case against the English when he listed 27 grievances against the King. So how is the layout key? It took Jefferson 357 words to get to those grievances. Your Declaration is your mission statement: it tells everyone in the world what America aspires to be. It states the belief that all were created equal, all had certain rights that come directly from God, and that it is the government's job to protect rights -- not give people rights.

The left is successfully painting everyone on the right to be a terrorist who enjoyed the Capitol Hill riots. If you ever want to win another election, it will be critical to explain what you stand for to the American people.

After all, ask yourself which makes you the most passionate to vote - removing someone from office or voting for a vision and change you believe in?

2 - The Constitution

Is there a better place to start this vision than the Constitution? Yes, it is mostly ignored today by those in power and is only referenced by politicians and media when it fits a narrative.

The Constitution is a beautiful and complex document but is primarily based on a straightforward principle. The government should be extremely limited in its power, but it should be as close to the people as possible where there is a clear need for government. Who can argue with this principle?

Who wants someone they have never met, dictating how they live their life?

This is why the Constitution grants the President no real power, and gives Congress 18 clauses of power, listed under Article 1, Section 8. Any and every power not mentioned there belongs at the state level.

3 - Finances

The power structure in DC has changed many times over the last twenty years, with both parties having the opportunity to rule the different federal branches. There have been two periods where one party controlled all the power in DC:

  • 2008-2010: Obama / Dem
  • 2016-2018: Trump / GOP

Despite these changes, your government continually grows, you continue to spend money you don't have, and in ten out of the last thirteen years, you have added over $1,000,000,000,000 to your national debt, which now sits just under $28 trillion. Does this seem sustainable to you? Of course not, but sadly your finances only get worse.

America has revenue of over $3.2 trillion every year, yet DC has not passed a budget since 2008. Can you imagine any business running that way? Do you think Apple, Amazon, or Disney have a budget? It is time to get America on a path to financial sustainability, work towards a balanced budget, and explain to the American people how you will achieve it.

4 - Taxes

Do you remember discussing taxes during the Tea Party?

We used to make the simple moral case to the American people: any money you earn is yours, you should use it to plan your life, and the government has no right to take it from you. This was so successful around 2012 that Herman Cain ran for President with one primary policy: the 9-9-9 plan.

If America is to return to prosperity after Covid, lower taxes and a simpler tax code must be a central theme.

5 - Cutting Government

Look at the size of the US government in 2021. Are you happy? Can you name the numerous departments? Is it now the freedom-loving Americans' position that agencies like Education, Energy, EPA, and Commerce are constitutional bodies of government and are well-run?

How about the IRS, which targeted Tea-Party groups under President Obama? Do they deserve support, or is it time to start sharing a vision of the departments that should be abolished?

This principle used to be a big part of the Conservative platform. It played a massive role in 2012 when Rick Perry ran for President. His campaign was destroyed in 45 short seconds when he could not remember the three agencies he would abolish.

Maybe it's time to refresh this debate but change the parameters. How about we discuss the agencies that should be kept?

6 - Bill of Rights

Today, the Bill of Rights is under constant attack. The far-left/woke mob hates free speech, and they seek to cancel anyone with an opposing view. However, the attacks on the Bill of Rights don't always come from the left.

America has a second amendment that guarantees you the right to bear arms. The last time the GOP held both houses of Congress and the Presidency, they banned bump stocks - but who really NEEDS a bump stock?

As the years have passed, some have admitted they are open to red flag laws. Is this still the case?

While the second amendment may be under attack, it is clear the fourth amendment is dead. Regardless of which party holds power in DC, the NSA is given continuous ability to spy on Americans. The simple, principled case from Rand Paul of "get a warrant" always falls on deaf ears.

The Bill of Rights should be a unifying document for most Americans, as the principles are self-evident and a significant part of any freedom platform going forward.

Conclusion

America will face significant challenges over the coming years. As the government continues to grow, the far left get more hostile, and central planners seek a great reset. If you share my concern, then now is the time to forget our tribes and ignore the debate on who should be President in 2024.

It's time to work hard to build a platform by raising a banner of bold colors, not pale pastels. We must share a clear vision to the American people of a bright future where they are free, prosperous, and can pursue their happiness.

When the platform is built and successful, people can identify the best candidate to run in 2024.

"First, you win the argument, and then you win the election." — Margaret Thatcher

Jonathon Dunne is a keynote speaker, weekly podcast host on Blaze Media, and published author on major platforms such as The Blaze, Glenn Beck, Libertarian Republic, Western Journalism, and Constitution. Since 2012, he has reached millions with his message of American exceptionalism.

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