Congressman Steve King
GLENN: We have Congressman Steve King who is from Iowa, who said what some would say is pretty controversial stuff. I think he's accurate. Congressman, how are you, sir?
King: I'm doing okay this morning. I have a fair amount of anxiety about what's happening to our liberty in America this week, Glenn, but other than that, I'm healthy.
GLENN: Where are you calling from now? Washington?
King: I'm in my office in Washington
GLENN: Okay. Do you think this is going to pass this week?
CALLER: I think that this is a jump ball. It has the advantages to Pelosi. She's 6, 5 and we're 5, 6 right now, but we can take this away. It's not a hopeless cause at all. You know, to they would say leave me in the dust to go to a sports met tore for, but I would say it's about we're fourth and goal from the 1 yard line and we need to dig in and take these people on. We can beat them, Glenn.
King: We can beat them in we fill this capital city full of patriotic Americans. In tens of thousands for into this city again, like they have numerous times before, pack this capital, jam this capital, surround this place, don't let anybody in or anybody out, they will have to capitulate. They'll have to tip over that and just say we just who despise
GLENN: When do they have to do this?
King: We have to this and
GLENN: But when? When?
PAT: Like, tomorrow?
King: It needs to be on Saturday at noon. If it could start today, that would be great. It needs to reach its crescendo at Saturday at noon and we need to keep that filled up and we'll know by Saturday the timing of the vote. We'll be able to bring our forces to bear then, too.
PAT: So, for sure they won't be voting on this today or tomorrow? We know that for sure?
King: We understand that anything could happen with this speaker, but they seem to be committed to the 72 hour rule of file the bill and then 72 hours before they would bring it to a vote. So, that means they can't vote before Sunday if they follow that rule and it looks like we'll have a debate on Saturday, perhaps, and then again a vote on Sunday. So, we have some we have some applications out for a permit to have a huge press conference and we're asking for that permit now. The timing is noon on Saturday and everybody that can come to this city makes a difference. They just cannot see the whites of our eyes and have the will to do this to the American people. They have to commit political suicide to vote for it, anyway, but still, they have to face their constituents the rest of their lives. I don't think they can do that. That's the one thing we can do to kill it at this point.
GLENN: Does it make a difference I've said people go to your local congressional district office and stand and sit down and refuse to leave the office, as well. Does it make a difference to have people locally, as well?
King: Yes, it does. It really makes a difference. And the district offices some of those offices like mine, it's not going to make any difference. There's nothing in the world that could cause me to vote for this bill but with every everybody, with a number of
GLENN: Hang on just a second. Steve? You're telling me for sure there won't be one single republican that votes for this?
King: That's right. I am
GLENN: I would like to say to the Republican party, thank you. Okay.
King: Thank you for saying that, Glenn. I really appreciate that.
GLENN: You're welcome. Thank you for doing that. Okay. So, now, if people just come, they're not going to be kicked off, though, or I mean, you're going to have the permits and everything to do it? I mean
King: We've just asked for the permits. So, I can't say that we have them right now, but they have to also have a reasonable reason to refuse those permits. Furthermore, I expect we will get them and furthermore, people have a right to walk on the capital grounds. It's American property. It's a nationally owned property and when the offices are open, which I'm not sure about how that will actually be on Saturday, if we're in session, he believe the offices will be open, but people can go into the congressional offices, the hallways are public property, they still have to go through the metal detector and they have to behave that respectful way, but they can still go into the offices, they can walk into the offices of the members of Congress that they want to influence. If they're asked to leave, they actually should leave because the member controls the space in his office and should, but if this capital is full of people and we do that huge press conference, as we did before on the 5th of November, out on the west side of the capital, we had between 10 and 50,000 people poured in there that day and, of course, the /# 12 rally that took place, that was the greatest number of people I think since well, certainly since the presidential inauguration and that just makes so much difference, seeing the faces, stacking the people up here. If they can go to the district offices, I would say do that if you can't get to Washington, but people can here's the call. Drop your plows and your hammers and get on a plane or a bus or drive your pickup truck. Come into Washington DC, fill this city up. They intend to vote on the sabbath, during lent, to take away the liberty that we have right from God.
GLENN: Steve, can I you're a religious man?
GLENN: Thank you for pointing this out. I thought of this this the other day because I've been saying faith, hope, and charity. Faith has been perverted and our hope they're trying to sell this hope that we'll have faith in the Government, that they'll be chair able and I thought, they're going to vote for this damn thing on a Sunday, which is the sabbath, during lent. You couldn't have said it better. Here is a group of people that have so perverted our faith and our hope and our charity that it is a this is an affront to God and I honestly I don't think that anybody's like, yes, and now what we'll do is we'll vote on the sabbath, but he think that it is absolutely appropriate that these people are trying to put the nail in the coffin on our country on a Sunday, something our founders would have never, ever, ever done, out of respect for God.
King: That's right. And they our founders and the Congress them self went to church in this very same capital building, with formal services for the first 60 years that the capital was up.
GLENN: Just so you know, America started by Thomas Jefferson. You know, the Godless Heath /THAPB, started by Thomas Jefferson.
King: And then Thomas Jefferson, if you go to his monument here in Washington, you will see on the four quotes of the panels that are there, two of them reference God. This is a nation that's founded on Judeo Christian principles and our rights do come from God and our founders knew it and understood he the and they put it in the declaration and here we're at this time, these rights and I use the word liberty rather than freedom because the left has perverted the word freedom to and do it with your tax dollars. Liberty is a different thing. Liberty is bridled by morality and faith and religion and that's what's made this country so great.
GLENN: Steve, have you talked to the Democrats that are pro life? Are they, are they hard fast in this or are they going to be talked out of it?
King: Well, again, they say there are. We have Stupak but the other 11 names are not public and one could speculate and I hear that a half a dozen or so have been outed, so to speak but you can't hold people to their word if you don't know who they are. They can slide away from us at the last minute like Dennis Kucinich did on the other side of this equation and I don't think their convictions lie as deep as they do on the other side of the aisle. I am a member of the bipartisan pro life caucus. When we close that door and there's no staff or press in the room, the debate goes to don't score a note for Nancy Pelosi, don't tell us that that's not you know, that it's not a pro life vote but even voting for Nancy Pelosi enables the anti life agenda and enables the socialized medicine agenda, enables cap and tax. It enables all of that. So, I don't want to help them to impose it upon America.
GLENN: You know, I sense we're talking to Congressman Steve King from Iowa, one of the good guys. Does anybody in America you know let me start here. A year and a half ago, I've been saying this for awhile. I've been under Bush, I, in fact, warned President Bush, sir, don't you realize what the American penal are feeling? They believe betrayed. You cannot continue to tell them one thing appeared then do another and it not make sense and I've been saying that to every Congressman and senator for probably five years. We're sewing the seeds of real discontent. About a year, year and a half ago I started reading up on the Civil War because I was worried what we were headed towards and I read I can't remember the Congressman or senator that was involved, but the senator had said that slavery was an abottom nation and it was a /HOR Democrat /STPH FPL and a Congressman came in and took a cain and darn near beat that senator to death on the in the well of the Senate. It was shocking at the time and when I read that, he thought, oh, we've got a long way to go before tensions are that high. Tensions in this country, they're not that high; but, Steve, can you tell me, do people in Congress understand that they are ripping the country apart? We are headed for very, very bad things if people aren't careful?
King: You know, I don't know if they do. I don't know how they can hole up and go into their private meetings in these secret formerly smoke filled rooms and with the guards on the outside of the door and put these things up and keep it a secret, all at the same time they're posturing themselves as we're going to do it on CSPAN and it will be open and in the public. I don't know if they know. They're in their own echo chamber we need to not let them go home where they're exposed to the public and their constituents. That's why she's planning this vote on Sunday, because if they go home, they have to face their constituents and if they face their constituents, they're going to have a lot better idea on what's going on and I'm that they are down playing the rallies and the outportion of patriotism that's taking place across this country and diminishing it by calling it Astroturf. This is real. I know you're right on this. My finger is on this pulse, too. My question is: If they ram this through and they decide that the Federal Government is has a here's an argument, Glenn. This is my argument and I have made it publicly a few times, but in 1973, when Roe versus Wade was first a decision of the Supreme Court, ever since then, people over on that side of the philosophical line having making the argument that the Federal Government has no business telling a woman what she can or can't do with her body but today the same people are making the argument that the Federal Government has every business to tell everybody in America what they can or can't do with their body.
GLENN: How have we never met?
King: I don't know why that was, Glenn.
GLENN: How is it we have never met or spoken? I love you. Please
King: I watch you a lot, Glenn, and sometimes I hear my words come out of your mouth and we've never met.
GLENN: Oh, my gosh. I'm going to do research on you today and please don't dirt out to be a dirt bag. You're not a dirt bag, are you?
King: You are going to find that I lack compassion. But other than that, I'll be okay.
GLENN: All right. Now, listen. Congressman, can you hold for a second? I'm going to take a break but I want to just follow up. Do you have a second?
KING: I do. I have as long as you need, Glenn.
GLENN: Hold for a second and I also want to see if see if we can put the Congressman on television tonight, because we have a couple of things we're covering and this will be one of them. Congressman Steve King from Iowa, back in a second.
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GLENN: Congressman Steve King is with us from Iowa and we were just talking about this off the air. I think it's Michelle Bachmann, Steve King, you know, this one brush with him, and Jim DeMint that I think are I mean, I don't know why I don't know Steve King, how we never brushed up against each other here. I mean, I don't mean to sound like
PAT: In a nontickle, nongroping way, right?
GLENN: So, Congressman King is calling for a gathering of as many Americans as possible Saturday at noon. We'll give you more information on that, but you said that this is Prague 1989. We've got about two minutes. Can you explain that?
KING: Well, I did. When we had the beginnings of the revolution, I mean, they lived under communism, of course, on the east side of the iron curtain and when the Berlin Wall came down November 9th of '89 and we saw freedom echo across Eastern Europe and head toward the Pacific Ocean, and in Czechoslovakia and Prague, people came to the town square and they just stood there and they held up their keys and shook their keys and the rattle of those keys was the rattle of the breath of liberty emerging in Czechoslovakia and there were so many of them and they came in such great numbers that in the end the communist government fell and freedom prevailed in Czechoslovakia and it prevails today. They did so peacefully, they did so because they answered the call and the rally. They filled their capital up and there was no way to maintain that government with all those people there that were asking to be represented, that the will of the people needed to be represented in the Czech government and it is today.
GLENN: I will tell you, Steve, that I think you're right. I will tell you that I think if people would do that and there were, you know, a million people in Washington, it would make a difference and I don't think you're picking Prague as an example or a communist country for you know, out of the air, because it's just one example. I think
KING: Glenn, it just inspired me to see that on television because that love of liberty that lives in the heart of every person came together in Prague.