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GLENN: Normally if we would have somebody famous on and, you know, they are famous enough to where you know them and you know them because you've seen them in movies or TV, you just want to hang yourself because they're so liberal that you just, you are like, does anybody have any rope I could hang myself with. Janine Turner is the exception to that rule. Where did we see each other? We saw each other down at the Alamo.

JANINE: The tea party, the Alamo. Yeah, Texas.

GLENN: And you have — let me see if I have the story right. You heard about the 5,000 Year Leap and read that.

JANINE: Yes. From you.

GLENN: And what happened to you?

JANINE: A light bulb just went off in my head. Just an absolute light bulb. And I had to attribute you to be my inspiration because I realized then and there that if we don't understand this Constitution and if Americans and students and children don't understand the Constitution, we're not going to know what we have and then we're not going to know that it's being slowly taken away from us.

GLENN: I have been on this track now for, I don't know, I guess since maybe January of, "We've got to restore our history, we have to — we don't even know. We don't even know what we don't know. It's just slowly erased."

JANINE: That's true. That's true.

GLENN: And this Friday I'm doing a special on James Madison and in particular the Seventeenth Amendment, Woodrow Wilson. And the Seventeenth Amendment, I'll bet you 90% of America, maybe even higher than that, has no idea. No idea what it is, what it was, why they did it, why James Madison and the founders said don't ever do that.

JANINE: State legislatures, uh huh.

GLENN: And you are on the same track.


GLENN: And you started, you started Tell me about it.

JANINE: Well, after your inspiration I hooked up with my dear friend Cathy Gillespie and just —

GLENN: Hi, Cathy.

JANINE: Who's in here. My daughter Juliette is in here, too, as a national youth director. She's 12. And just decided to — I think a lot of people in America are finding their voice but I felt as I was finding my voice, I wanted to be educated with it. So we started Constituting America with the goal to educate and bring awareness to American citizens and students and children across America about the Constitution. So right now if you can see all these essays, Cathy and I write essays every night about the Constitution and the Federalist Papers. And then so what we do, we have two programs going. One's a 90 and 90 equals 180, history holds the key to the future.

GLENN: Okay. 180 meaning 180 turn around?

JANINE: Turn around, yeah. Turn around, let's look back, history holds the key to our future. It's our roadmap, as Cathy likes to say. And in this respect we read in 90 days, the Constitution was in five days and the Federalist Papers in 85 days. We read sections a day, one federalist paper a day. We have a constitutional scholar that comes on and breaks it down for us and we have a blog. And then Cathy and I both write an essay every night and then I do behind the scenes videos to make it viral and out there with Juliette. So that's for adults.

GLENN: Cathy, how many people do you have, do you have involved in this now? Do you have any way of measuring?

CATHY: Well, we have, you know, thousands of hits on our website and participation varies day to day. We want to invite all the listeners to come on our blog and blog with us and read Federalist Papers with us and add their comments.

JANINE: Because it's a great way of educating.

GLENN: There are so many people now that — in fact, I'm going to show something tonight. I wish I had it in here. I saw this last night and it blew my mind. There is somebody that is publishing the Constitution that now has published a disclaimer on it.

JANINE: Oh, I heard about that! Yes!

GLENN: Have you read it?

JANINE: I mean, it's terrible!

GLENN: It's unbelievable. Do you have it, Pat?

PAT: Yes, it's a warning label.

GLENN: A disclaimer, a warning label on the Constitution now.

PAT: It warns the readers of the following advisory: Readers may need to scroll to the copyright section depending on how — this book is a product of its time and does not reflect the same values as it would if it were written today.

GLENN: That's true.

PAT: Yeah. Parents might wish to discuss with their children how views on race, gender, sexuality, ethnicity and interpersonal relationships have changed since this book was written before allowing them to read this classic work.

JANINE: Unbelievable.

GLENN: That's the Constitution!

JANINE: I know.

PAT: Wow.

JANINE: Look it says in federalist paper number 29, Alexander Hamilton — I talk about all the time and quote how it's relevant today because they want to say it's not relevant today. So our theme is how it's relevant today. Here he talks about how the enemy is in the field. You know, the enemy is in our field out there in America and we need to become aware of it, really go after it. And here's what they say in federalist paper number 27 which I thought you'd really like: Man is a creature of habit. A thing that rarely strikes its senses will have but a transient influence upon his mind. So if nobody knows about the Constitution, if it's not a habit for people to reference it and to realize that it's relevant, we use this every day, they are going to forget about it. They are going to say things like that, put a copyright on it.

GLENN: It is really remarkable what's happening in America, that there is — I mean, I don't know if you've watched any of the best selling books, but they are all on the founders, they are all on — and I mean books that have been out for eight, ten years not the, you know, not the new stuff. There's this new book out and somebody said to me, oh, Glenn, you should read this because it's really, it's about their personal private lives. And I said, I have read it. It's garbage. First of all, how is that relevant at all? Why do I care? Why do I care? Oh, this person, you know, this is how they met this person and they were, you know, dating this person. Who cares? Who cares? This is the stuff that people are digging into are the deep stuff. Federalist Papers. Pat has read the Federalist Papers how many times?

JANINE: Aren't they great?

PAT: Probably three times.

GLENN: Oh, I hate them.

PAT: It's really


PAT: It's difficult reading, you know? It is difficult.

JANINE: But that's why we had the constitutional scholars coming on and making it easy to interpret.

PAT: Yeah.

JANINE: SO, because I think these are so important.

PAT: They are.

JANINE: And then, you know, Cathy and I write about how it's relevant today. So that's the bubble that we're trying to burst. And people say, oh, it's so old and antiquated, nobody wants to read it; it's so difficult to read.

GLENN: Juliette, this is Janine's daughter. How old are you?


GLENN: Your mother is making you read the Federalist Papers. There are people maybe within this audience right now that would take your case on abuse so you could be taken away from her and live in the state's good care. What is it like to be 12 and read the Federalist Papers? How difficult is it? Jewel Julie love it actually because sometimes I help her read it on the way to ballet in the car after school. And on words I don't understand, I look it up in, like, our dictionary on our iPhone and I'm like, oh, that makes perfect sense and we go on. I just love it actually.

PAT: That's weird. That's where I write it on the way to school.

GLENN: I don't think I read it when I was 30. I don't think I read it when I was 30.

PAT: I know you didn't. I know you didn't.

GLENN: Shut up. (Laughing). Pat's been a friend of mine far too long. And I remember I came over to your house and you said, have you ever read the Federalist Papers? I said, not in your life, never, never. And now I've got to read those dusty old things? I mean he's been doing this for a long time and now it's weird because people are turning into freaks, like you. And like you, Janine.

JANINE: I know, like me.

GLENN: Did any of you see what was printed in the Washington Post last Saturday? Front page of the Washington Post about the Constitution. It said — I'm paraphrasing now. I can't remember exactly but I'm paraphrasing. If you study the constitution and if you take any of these constitutional courses, you are most likely a fringy Glenn Beck type. The Constitution is now fringe.

JANINE: (Laughing).

GLENN: So what is the goal? What is the goal for you and for —

JANINE: Well, the goal is ongoing. It's the education like we're talking about right now. And also we have a contest for kids. We the people, 9/17 contest. And entries are due July 4th. And we have middle school, elementary school, high school, and we're trying to make it hip and modern and cool. And so what we're doing is we're saying that elementary kids do a poem or a little drawing about what the Constitution means to them. Middle school we want kind of a cool American Idol type of song that reaches great demographics, you know, a wide variety of demographics, original song. And an essay. And high school, best short film like Sundance film festival, best song, best public service announcement for constitutional moments and best essay. And those kids, the high school kids get $2,000 scholarships, trip to Philadelphia. Their works get —

GLENN: Wait, wait. Could you send somebody to any other city other than Philadelphia?

JANINE: The Constitution Center is there.

GLENN: Oh, I know, and it's a sad thing for those who work at the Constitution Center. It's a fantastic place. Unfortunately it's in Philadelphia.

JANINE: I know. We can come see you, too. We can come see you.

GLENN: You are more than welcome at any time. Okay. So the address is Can you start, do you have to do it with you? Do you pick it up in the middle?

JANINE: Well, everything's archived. So you can go in and read up if you want to or just start with us. We're on federalist paper number 30 today. Everything's archived. And the kids, all the rules for the kids in the contest which is July 4th which is pretty soon is all there on the website, too. So we can get some more entries.

GLENN: Cathy?

CATHY: Online. The reading and blogging schedule, the Federalist Papers. So if you don't have a copy of the Federalist Papers, they just have to click on a link and read them right there on their computer.

JANINE: For us fringe federalists.

GLENN: Well, that's kind of —

JANINE: What are we, fringe Glenn Beck?

GLENN: Yeah. Fringy, fringy Glenn Beck people. Number 30 is about what?

JANINE: I know.

GLENN: Come on. No, no. No, no. Come on. Come on, Ms. Ballet. Come on. A ha, you are not reading them, either. You are just like me.

JANINE: She has to read it tonight. It's about taxes. We start about taxes.

GLENN: Really? It's about taxes? Pat?

PAT: 30?

GLENN: Yeah. See?

PAT: Let me go back to 30.

JANINE: We'll be reading it tonight at midnight.

GLENN: Tonight. Tonight do this with your family. This is a really, really good idea. And I can't thank you enough for all of the hard work that you are doing and I can't recommend enough that we are the only ones responsible. I was talking to a friend today who works on the show and I said, I'm sorry, but I'm going to take these, I'm going to take these guys on. I know we've got a billion battles going on but I am so tired of being trashed by these educators, by these so called historians who have deleted, misinterpreted and completely flipped on its head our history. Who are you to say back off our history? Our history doesn't belong to you, Mr. Professor. It belongs to the American people. And it is time for us to take our history back and restore it. And the best way to do it is not to listen to some historian, not to even listen to people like me. Listen to those people who made history in their own words. The Federalist Papers and the Constitution, great place to start.

Carter Page, a former advisor to Donald Trump's 2016 presidential campaign, found himself at the center of the Russia probe and had his reputation and career destroyed by what we now know were lies from our own intelligence system and the media.

On the TV show Thursday, Page joined Glenn Beck to speak out about how he became the subject of illegal electronic surveillance by the FBI for more than two years, and revealed the extent of the corruption that has infiltrated our legal systems and our country as a whole.

"To me, the bigger issue is how much damage this has done to our country," Page told Glenn. "I've been very patient in trying to ... find help with finding solutions and correcting this terrible thing which has happened to our country, our judicial system, DOJ, FBI -- these once-great institutions. And my bigger concern is the fact that, although we keep taking these steps forward in terms of these important findings, it really remains the tip of the iceberg."

Page was referencing the report by Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz, which revealed that the FBI made "at least 17 significant errors or omissions" in its Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) applications for warrants to spy on Page, a U.S. citizen.

"I think this needs to be attacked from all angles," Glenn said. "The one angle I'm interested in from you is, please tell me you have the biggest badass attorneys that are hungry, starving, maybe are a little low to pay their Mercedes payments right now, and are just gearing up to come after the government and the media. Are they?"

I can confirm that that is the case," Page replied.

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On Wednesday's TV show, Glenn Beck sat down with radio show host, author, political commentator, and film critic, Michael Medved.

Michael had an interesting prediction for the 2020 election outcome: a brokered convention by the DNC will usher in former First Lady Michelle Obama to run against President Donald Trump.

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On Thursday's "Glenn Beck Radio Program," BlazeTV's White House correspondent Jon Miller described the current situation in Virginia after Gov. Ralph Northam (D) declared a state of emergency and banned people carrying guns at Capitol Square just days before a pro-Second-Amendment rally scheduled on Martin Luther King Jr. Day.

Jon told Glenn that Gov. Northam and the Virginia Legislature are "trying to deprive the people of their Second Amendment rights" but the citizens of Virginia are "rising up" to defend their constitutional rights.

"I do think this is the flashpoint," Jon said. "They [Virginia lawmakers] are saying, 'You cannot exercise your rights ... and instead of trying to de-escalate the situation, we are putting pressure. We're trying to escalate it and we're trying to enrage the citizenry even more'."

Glenn noted how Gov. Northam initially blamed the threat of violence from Antifa for his decision to ban weapons but quickly changed his narrative to blame "white supremacists" to vilify the people who are standing up for the Second Amendment and the Constitution.

"What he's doing is, he's making all all the law-abiding citizens of Virginia into white supremacists," Glenn said.

"Sadly, that's exactly right," Jon replied. "And I think he knows exactly what he's doing."

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Ryan: Trump Louisiana Finale

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Part One. Part Two. Part Three.

At the end of Trump rallies, I would throw on my Carhartt jacket, sneak out of the press area, then blend in with everyone as they left, filing out through swinging doors.

Often, someone held the door open for me. Just 30 minutes earlier, the same person had most likely had most likely hissed at me for being a journalist. And now they were Sunday smiles and "Oh, yes, thank you, sir" like some redneck concierge.

People flooded out of the arena with the stupidity of a fire drill mishap, desperate to survive.

The air smacked you as soon as you crossed the threshold, back into Louisiana. And the lawn was a wasteland of camping chairs and coolers and shopping bags and to-go containers and soda cans and articles of clothing and even a few tents.

In Monroe, in the dark, the Trump supporters bobbled over mounds of waste like elephants trying to tiptoe. And the trash was as neutral to them as concrete or grass. They plodded over it because it, an object, had somehow gotten in their way.

It did not matter that they were responsible for this wreckage.Out in the sharp-edged moonlight, rally-goers hooted and yapped and boogied and danced, and the bbq food truck was all smoke and paper plates.

They were even more pumped than they had been before the rally, like 6,000 eight year olds who'd been chugging Mountain Dew for hours. Which made Donald Trump the father, the trooper, God of the Underworld, Mr. Elite, Sheriff on high horse, the AR-15 sticker of the family.

Ritualistic mayhem, all at once. And, there in Louisiana, Trump's supporters had gotten a taste of it. They were all so happy. It bordered on rage.

Still, I could not imagine their view of America. Worse, after a day of strange hostilities, I did not care.

My highest priority, my job as a reporter, was to care. To understand them and the world that they inhabit. But I did not give a damn and I never wanted to come back.

Worst of all, I would be back. In less than a week.

Was this how dogs felt on the 4th of July? Hunched in a corner while everyone else gets drunk and launches wailing light into the sky? configurations of blue and red and white.

It was 10:00 p.m. and we'd been traveling since 11:00 a.m., and we still had 5 hours to go and all I wanted was a home, my home, any home, just not here, in the cold sweat of this nowhere. Grey-mangled sky. No evidence of planes or satellites or any proof of modern-day. Just century-old bridges that trains shuffled over one clack at a time.

And casinos, all spangles and neon like the 1960s in Las Vegas. Kitchy and dumb, too tacky for lighthearted gambling. And only in the nicer cities, like Shreveport, which is not nice at all.

And swamp. Black water that rarely shimmered. Inhabited by gadflies and leeches and not one single fish that was pretty.

Full of alligators, and other killing types. The storks gnawing on frogs, the vultures never hungry. The coyotes with nobody to stop them and so much land to themselves. The roaches in the wild, like tiny wildebeests.

Then, the occasional deer carcass on the side of the road, eyes splayed as if distracted, tongue out, relaxed but empty. The diseased willows like skeletons in hairnets. The owls that never quit staring. A million facets of wilderness that would outlive us all.

Because Nature has poise. It thrives and is original.

Because silence is impossible. Even in an anechoic chamber, perfectly soundproofed, you can hear your own heartbeat, steady as a drum. A never-ending war.

I put "Headache" by Grouper on repeat as we glided west. We were deadlocked to asphalt, rubber over tarface.

And I thought about lines from a Rita Dove poem titled "I have been a stranger in a strange land"

He was off cataloging the universe, probably,
pretending he could organize
what was clearly someone else's chaos.

Wasn't that exactly what I was doing? Looking for an impossible answer, examining every single accident, eager for meaning? telling myself, "If it happens and matters the next year, in America, I want to be there, or to know what it means. I owe it to whoever cares to listen."

Humans are collectors and I had gone overboard.

Because maybe this wasn't even my home. These landmarks, what did they mean? Was I obvious here? When I smiled, did I trick them into believing that I felt some vague sense of approval? Or did my expressions betray me?

Out in all that garbage-streaked emptiness — despite the occasional burst of passing halogen — I couldn't tell if everything we encountered was haunted or just old, derelict, broken, useless. One never-ending landfill.

Around those parts, they'd made everything into junk. Homes. Roads. Glass. Nature. Life itself, they made into junk.

I cringed as we passed yet another deer carcass mounded on the side of the road.

As written in Job 35:11,

Who teaches us more than the beasts of the earth and makes us wiser than the birds in the sky?

Nobody. Look at nature and you feel something powerful. Look at an animal, in all of its untamable majesty, and you capture a deep love, all swept up in the power of creation. But, here, all I saw were poor creatures who people had slammed into and kept driving. Driving to where? For what reason? What exactly was so important that they left a trail of dead animals behind them?

So I crossed myself dolorously and said an "Our Father" and recited a stanza from Charles Bukowski's "The Laughing Heart"

you can't beat death but
you can beat death in life, sometimes.
and the more often you learn to do it,
the more light there will be.

Out here, nothing but darkness. Needing some light, by God. Give me something better than a Moon that hides like an underfed coward.

Jade told me about some of the more traumatic things she'd seen while working at the State Fair.

"Bro, they pull roaches out of the iced lemonade jugs and act like nothing happened."

"All right but what about the corn dogs?"

"You do not want to know, little bro."

She looked around in the quiet. "Back in the day, the Louisiana Congress refused to raise the drinking age from 18 to 21," she said. "They didn't want to lose all that drunk gambler money. So the federal government cut off funding to highways."

We glided through moon-pale landscape for an hour before I realized what she had meant. That there weren't any light poles or billboards along the road. Nothing to guide us or distract us. Just us, alone. And it felt like outer space had collapsed, swallowed us like jellybeans.

Like two teenagers playing a prank on the universe.

In the cozy Subaru Crosstrek, in the old wild night, brimming with the uncertainty of life and the nonchalance of failure, we paraded ourselves back to Dallas. Alive in the river silence that follows us everywhere.

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