Glenn vs. Bill O'Reilly

Bold & Fresh Tour

It's time for the truth -- straight up, whether you like it or not. Bill O'Reilly and Glenn Beck are teaming up and going on tour. Your town may never be the same.

GLENN: Bring Mr. O'Reilly on the phone, will you? Oh. He's not there? He missed his chance. I did have him scheduled. He was going to be on, but he's missed his chance.

STU: So, you're just going to blow him off now?

GLENN: I'm going to blow him off until he calls. And, you know, Bill O'Reilly has you know, Bill O'Reilly is really one of the biggest supporters I can't say this now that he's on. He's an okay guy. Let me go to Bill O'Reilly. Hey, Bill.

O'REILLY: Now, what are you telling me? I'm the biggest supporter of what, Beck?

GLENN: Of communist.

O' REILLY: I'm a communist guy now, me.

GLENN: Well, no. You're not a communist guy. You just won't admit there's communists in and around that are trying to destroy our country.

O'REILLY: Communists?

GLENN: Yeah.

O'REILLY: All right.

GLENN: Communists.

O'REILLY: Yeah. No. They're not real high on the Al Qaeda's are higher on my list than the communists.

GLENN: They're working together, Bill. They're working together.

O'REILLY: You're going to take care of them, Beck. I don't have to worry about that.

GLENN: May I show you may I show you this weekend on stage the links between the jihadists and the communists here in America?

O'REILLY: That's interesting. Now, I'm absolutely fascinated to hear that. Columbus Ohio on Friday and St. Louis on Saturday night

GLENN: Don't tease me.

O'REILLY: you're going to show me and the audience the link between


O'REILLY: American communists and Al Qaeda?

GLENN: Do not tease me. Don't say it like, Oh, I'll be interested in that and then I show it to you

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O'REILLY: No. I'm very sincere. You know me.

GLENN: I do. That's why I'm saying don't tease me like this, Bill, because you are you are the most unpredictable guy ever because I will show you I'll lay out a case and you'll be, like, Yeah. I don't know. So, did you see the body language expert last night?

O'REILLY: Well, the body language expert, I have her now analyzing news clips, news reels of Woodrow Wilson.

GLENN: Do you?

O'REILLY: You know, now that you made him more famous than Michael Jackson.


O'REILLY: I've got to get the body language expert on Woodrow Wilson to find out if he was as bad as you say he was.

GLENN: Come on, man. You are a historian. You were a history teacher.

O'REILLY: Right.

GLENN: Is your book out yet about I don't know what it was Lincoln or Taft or

O'REILLY: No. That's going to be out down the road. You're the guy with the new book. It's got birds on the cover of this book.

GLENN: I know. And it scares you. The birds scares you. Have you finished it yet?

O'REILLY: I'm running through it.

GLENN: No, you're not.

O'REILLY: I'm reading it slowly because there's so much that you have to say in this book, Beck, it's amazing.

GLENN: Bill, these are the answers I gave you on your book. I don't buy them. I invented those kind of answers.

O'REILLY: (Inaudible.) I like the book. I told you that on TV. It's interesting. I mean, that's all I require of a book is to be interesting. I don't want to be bored when I'm reading it.

GLENN: All right. You're breaking

O'REILLY: This one moves along pretty well.

GLENN: You're breaking up a little bit. Are you can you have the chopper pilot bring the altitude down just a little bit so you can get closer to

O'REILLY: We'll lower the chopper. Can you hear me better?

GLENN: I can hear you now.

O'REILLY: We narrowly averted some communists in another helicopter, but we're safe now.

GLENN: Why did you avert them? Why did you

O'REILLY: Because I didn't want a midair collision with these pinkos.

GLENN: Why don't you take them out? So, I'm going to be with you in Columbus, Ohio, on Friday which is, you know, two days of you being with me and me being with you. I don't know if that's a good idea.

O'REILLY: Well, we have, you know, separate we have curtains in the jet to separate my crew from your crew.

GLENN: Yeah. That's called first class cabin and coach.

O'REILLY: But your blackboard, I want everyone to know, flies first class.

GLENN: With you.

O'REILLY: The blackboard is in first class and it is constantly attended to. No moisture can ever get on that blackboard.

GLENN: The chalk is always in first class and I, like, open up the curtain in between and the caulk is always sitting next to Bill and the chalk is, like, Can't you keep the riffraff out of here? Tell him to use the bathroom in the back.

O'REILLY: I'm the guardian of that blackboard and chalk. I want to know that link between the American communism. Now, are you going to shout out Van Jones? Is he one of your guys here that's the Al Qaeda sympathizer or something?

GLENN: I'll tell you on stage, Bill.

O'REILLY: This is good. I like this promo because people on the fence about coming to see O'Reilly and Beck, they know they're going to get something new. I don't know what's coming. I'm going to have to react, be nimble, kick on my feet.

GLENN: No, you won't. You won't even listen to me. You won't even listen to me. You won't. You won't. I hear you all the time. The audience is against you, Bill. The audience is against you. They're praying for you every night. They're on their knees praying for you, please, when will Bill O'Reilly wake up to this?

O'REILLY: I had a letter from a lady yesterday that I read on the air that actually said that.

GLENN: Really? Are you on the air

O'REILLY: And I got ballooned for not agreeing with everything Glenn Beck says, everything. I can never dissent. That sounds like communism to me.

GLENN: Wow. I'm not saying that you can't dissent. I'm just expecting so much more because you are a highly intelligent, trained professional that someday may have your own TV show or something.

O'REILLY: Right. But I need I always go where the facts take me. Sometimes you take the facts and extrapolate a little, which you have every right to do, by the way.

GLENN: Right. Isn't that wouldn't that be called

O'REILLY: But I kind of stay in the fact zone. (Inaudible.) communists and I'll go get them.

GLENN: I do, as well. I stay in the fact zone, as well. I just happen to look at several data points and then say what does this picture tell us? Isn't that what

O'REILLY: Right. If you're extrapolating from the facts a big picture philosophy that a lot of people agree with. You're obviously successful on radio and television. Forbes magazine says you're the richest guy in the country except for George Soros or something, right? Didn't I read that somewhere?

GLENN: I think we could probably compare pay checks and you would win.

O'REILLY: Well, but that's called political justice.

GLENN: Okay. All right. So, tomorrow no. Is it is today Thursday? Yeah.

O'REILLY: Yes. Tomorrow. Columbus Ohio, tomorrow. That's how quick this week has gone. We'll be there and you can get tickets on and we'll be in St. Louis on the 19th. Now, if you don't have a gift for dad, I mean, this is the best gift ever.

GLENN: It's the second best. I think The Overton Window is probably the best.

O'REILLY: But do you what I also tell people, Beck? This is very important. If you don't like Dad and Dad doesn't like you and me, then you get him tickets to this tour.

GLENN: That's fantastic. That's fantastic.

O'REILLY: A little payback.

GLENN: That's fantastic. All right. So, we're in we're in Columbus tomorrow night and then in St. Louis the Saturday night and it is a great, great show and you really don't ever know what is going to happen. Have you ever Bill, let me ask you this: Have you ever thought in this because I've enjoyed them, but once in awhile you've made my you've raised my blood pressure a bit. Has there been a show yet that you have thought, I might clock this guy?



O'REILLY: No. I like you, Beck. Whatever you do is fine with me. I'm not one of these people who if you disagree with me, I don't like you.

GLENN: Right.

O'REILLY: I like you as a person, which is a character flaw of mine. Okay? So, there's some blind spot in my persona that has brought me to this conclusion.

GLENN: Right.

O'REILLY: But I don't care what you say in the sense that it doesn't agree with my philosophy. It doesn't really matter. I mean, you have your opinion. You're entitled to it. A lot of people agree with you. I agree with a lot of what you say, not everything, but that's why the show is so fun.

GLENN: Let me ask you this, Bill. Let me play somebody one of these clowns from MSNBC that after the President's speech, he said this. Play the what is it? cut 303, please. He said this.

VOICE: When does the President become a dictator on this? When does the President start really calling the shots and saying, This is the number, this is what you're going to pay, we're not going to let you off the hook?

GLENN: When does the President become a dictator on this? And he's not the only one that's just saying, do it. You have a senator play the play the cut from the senator. When asked, well, what legal right does he have to do these things, to demand these things, here is I don't remember which senator he is, one of the one of the senators. Do you have it? I think it's 389, I think. Hold on just a second.

VOICE: A specific question for you on what legal basis can the government demand that BP set aside this money? What's the specific legal authority for this?

VOICE: Well, first of all, if we have to pass a statute to create that authority, we will.

GLENN: Okay. Then you have commentators on CNBC saying this guy is setting up a separate legal system outside of the framework of the Constitution. Does this concern you at all that the left is actually they don't have a problem with a dictatorship, as long as it is their, you know, legal system

O'REILLY: No doubt that that's at this point critical on the left. Okay? But in this case I think that you have to find a way to make BP pony up money. So, I mean, obviously I'm a Constitutionalist and I want the law to be obeyed, but you have to find a way. Now, if I were Obama, I would be looking in camera and say, look, I'm not a dictator, I'm not trying to tell anybody anything but I am going to strong arm these people to make them pay damages to everybody who is suffering. I, President Obama, am going to strong arm BP. If I've got to do it economically, I'm going to do it economically. If I can find a legal loophole, I'm going to do it. They're responsible. They've got to pony up. So, I would be honest with about it; and I think that's the way to handle it. Do you disagree?

GLENN: Yeah. I don't want to find legal loopholes or play any games. I want to apply justice and justice would demand that they do pay for their mistakes and I'm not

O'REILLY: That's right.

GLENN: I'm not going to play any games with them. They're not going to get any special favors, but I'm also not going to I'm not going to skirt around the law or the Constitution.

O'REILLY: Well, wait a minute, Beck. You can find creative ways to make people do the right thing.

GLENN: That's called nudge.

O'REILLY: That's what's in play here. I have no problem with BP having to pony up 20 billion and probably more.

GLENN: Neither do I. They should have to may for their damages.


GLENN: Yes. They've

O'REILLY: They've got to pony it up. They've got to pay for the cleanup and they can't weasel out of it. If Obama can find a way to make them do it, which apparently has, because they estimated the money, more power to them.

GLENN: That's exactly right.

O'REILLY: In my world I understand the world of theory and I understand, you know, the left is hypocritical. They say, Okay. We want our guy to be the dictator but don't you do anything unilaterally if you're a conservative. Okay. We all got that. We all have, but there are things like executive orders in this country that give the President the power to right wrongs and he's got to use that and I think he did.

GLENN: See, this is the kind of thing we're out of time now, but this is the kind of thing that I'll be responding to in Columbus.

O'REILLY: This is a good debate point for Friday and Saturday night. This is a really excellent one.

GLENN: Oh, yes. I might have to wear my czar uniform for that debate.

O'REILLY: I want to see the little Mao hat on you with the star in the middle of it. That's what I want to see.

GLENN: Well, if I become the dictator, I may make you wear it. All right. It is Friday in Columbus, Ohio, and Saturday in St. Louis. Great for father's day. Pick up the tickets now. You can find them at or Check it out. This weekend only in Columbus and St. Louis. Grab your tickets now.

Carter Page, a former advisor to Donald Trump's 2016 presidential campaign, found himself at the center of the Russia probe and had his reputation and career destroyed by what we now know were lies from our own intelligence system and the media.

On the TV show Thursday, Page joined Glenn Beck to speak out about how he became the subject of illegal electronic surveillance by the FBI for more than two years, and revealed the extent of the corruption that has infiltrated our legal systems and our country as a whole.

"To me, the bigger issue is how much damage this has done to our country," Page told Glenn. "I've been very patient in trying to ... find help with finding solutions and correcting this terrible thing which has happened to our country, our judicial system, DOJ, FBI -- these once-great institutions. And my bigger concern is the fact that, although we keep taking these steps forward in terms of these important findings, it really remains the tip of the iceberg."

Page was referencing the report by Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz, which revealed that the FBI made "at least 17 significant errors or omissions" in its Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) applications for warrants to spy on Page, a U.S. citizen.

"I think this needs to be attacked from all angles," Glenn said. "The one angle I'm interested in from you is, please tell me you have the biggest badass attorneys that are hungry, starving, maybe are a little low to pay their Mercedes payments right now, and are just gearing up to come after the government and the media. Are they?"

I can confirm that that is the case," Page replied.

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On Wednesday's TV show, Glenn Beck sat down with radio show host, author, political commentator, and film critic, Michael Medved.

Michael had an interesting prediction for the 2020 election outcome: a brokered convention by the DNC will usher in former First Lady Michelle Obama to run against President Donald Trump.

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On Thursday's "Glenn Beck Radio Program," BlazeTV's White House correspondent Jon Miller described the current situation in Virginia after Gov. Ralph Northam (D) declared a state of emergency and banned people carrying guns at Capitol Square just days before a pro-Second-Amendment rally scheduled on Martin Luther King Jr. Day.

Jon told Glenn that Gov. Northam and the Virginia Legislature are "trying to deprive the people of their Second Amendment rights" but the citizens of Virginia are "rising up" to defend their constitutional rights.

"I do think this is the flashpoint," Jon said. "They [Virginia lawmakers] are saying, 'You cannot exercise your rights ... and instead of trying to de-escalate the situation, we are putting pressure. We're trying to escalate it and we're trying to enrage the citizenry even more'."

Glenn noted how Gov. Northam initially blamed the threat of violence from Antifa for his decision to ban weapons but quickly changed his narrative to blame "white supremacists" to vilify the people who are standing up for the Second Amendment and the Constitution.

"What he's doing is, he's making all all the law-abiding citizens of Virginia into white supremacists," Glenn said.

"Sadly, that's exactly right," Jon replied. "And I think he knows exactly what he's doing."

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Ryan: Trump Louisiana Finale

Photo by Jim Dale

Part One. Part Two. Part Three.

At the end of Trump rallies, I would throw on my Carhartt jacket, sneak out of the press area, then blend in with everyone as they left, filing out through swinging doors.

Often, someone held the door open for me. Just 30 minutes earlier, the same person had most likely had most likely hissed at me for being a journalist. And now they were Sunday smiles and "Oh, yes, thank you, sir" like some redneck concierge.

People flooded out of the arena with the stupidity of a fire drill mishap, desperate to survive.

The air smacked you as soon as you crossed the threshold, back into Louisiana. And the lawn was a wasteland of camping chairs and coolers and shopping bags and to-go containers and soda cans and articles of clothing and even a few tents.

In Monroe, in the dark, the Trump supporters bobbled over mounds of waste like elephants trying to tiptoe. And the trash was as neutral to them as concrete or grass. They plodded over it because it, an object, had somehow gotten in their way.

It did not matter that they were responsible for this wreckage.Out in the sharp-edged moonlight, rally-goers hooted and yapped and boogied and danced, and the bbq food truck was all smoke and paper plates.

They were even more pumped than they had been before the rally, like 6,000 eight year olds who'd been chugging Mountain Dew for hours. Which made Donald Trump the father, the trooper, God of the Underworld, Mr. Elite, Sheriff on high horse, the AR-15 sticker of the family.

Ritualistic mayhem, all at once. And, there in Louisiana, Trump's supporters had gotten a taste of it. They were all so happy. It bordered on rage.

Still, I could not imagine their view of America. Worse, after a day of strange hostilities, I did not care.

My highest priority, my job as a reporter, was to care. To understand them and the world that they inhabit. But I did not give a damn and I never wanted to come back.

Worst of all, I would be back. In less than a week.

Was this how dogs felt on the 4th of July? Hunched in a corner while everyone else gets drunk and launches wailing light into the sky? configurations of blue and red and white.

It was 10:00 p.m. and we'd been traveling since 11:00 a.m., and we still had 5 hours to go and all I wanted was a home, my home, any home, just not here, in the cold sweat of this nowhere. Grey-mangled sky. No evidence of planes or satellites or any proof of modern-day. Just century-old bridges that trains shuffled over one clack at a time.

And casinos, all spangles and neon like the 1960s in Las Vegas. Kitchy and dumb, too tacky for lighthearted gambling. And only in the nicer cities, like Shreveport, which is not nice at all.

And swamp. Black water that rarely shimmered. Inhabited by gadflies and leeches and not one single fish that was pretty.

Full of alligators, and other killing types. The storks gnawing on frogs, the vultures never hungry. The coyotes with nobody to stop them and so much land to themselves. The roaches in the wild, like tiny wildebeests.

Then, the occasional deer carcass on the side of the road, eyes splayed as if distracted, tongue out, relaxed but empty. The diseased willows like skeletons in hairnets. The owls that never quit staring. A million facets of wilderness that would outlive us all.

Because Nature has poise. It thrives and is original.

Because silence is impossible. Even in an anechoic chamber, perfectly soundproofed, you can hear your own heartbeat, steady as a drum. A never-ending war.

I put "Headache" by Grouper on repeat as we glided west. We were deadlocked to asphalt, rubber over tarface.

And I thought about lines from a Rita Dove poem titled "I have been a stranger in a strange land"

He was off cataloging the universe, probably,
pretending he could organize
what was clearly someone else's chaos.

Wasn't that exactly what I was doing? Looking for an impossible answer, examining every single accident, eager for meaning? telling myself, "If it happens and matters the next year, in America, I want to be there, or to know what it means. I owe it to whoever cares to listen."

Humans are collectors and I had gone overboard.

Because maybe this wasn't even my home. These landmarks, what did they mean? Was I obvious here? When I smiled, did I trick them into believing that I felt some vague sense of approval? Or did my expressions betray me?

Out in all that garbage-streaked emptiness — despite the occasional burst of passing halogen — I couldn't tell if everything we encountered was haunted or just old, derelict, broken, useless. One never-ending landfill.

Around those parts, they'd made everything into junk. Homes. Roads. Glass. Nature. Life itself, they made into junk.

I cringed as we passed yet another deer carcass mounded on the side of the road.

As written in Job 35:11,

Who teaches us more than the beasts of the earth and makes us wiser than the birds in the sky?

Nobody. Look at nature and you feel something powerful. Look at an animal, in all of its untamable majesty, and you capture a deep love, all swept up in the power of creation. But, here, all I saw were poor creatures who people had slammed into and kept driving. Driving to where? For what reason? What exactly was so important that they left a trail of dead animals behind them?

So I crossed myself dolorously and said an "Our Father" and recited a stanza from Charles Bukowski's "The Laughing Heart"

you can't beat death but
you can beat death in life, sometimes.
and the more often you learn to do it,
the more light there will be.

Out here, nothing but darkness. Needing some light, by God. Give me something better than a Moon that hides like an underfed coward.

Jade told me about some of the more traumatic things she'd seen while working at the State Fair.

"Bro, they pull roaches out of the iced lemonade jugs and act like nothing happened."

"All right but what about the corn dogs?"

"You do not want to know, little bro."

She looked around in the quiet. "Back in the day, the Louisiana Congress refused to raise the drinking age from 18 to 21," she said. "They didn't want to lose all that drunk gambler money. So the federal government cut off funding to highways."

We glided through moon-pale landscape for an hour before I realized what she had meant. That there weren't any light poles or billboards along the road. Nothing to guide us or distract us. Just us, alone. And it felt like outer space had collapsed, swallowed us like jellybeans.

Like two teenagers playing a prank on the universe.

In the cozy Subaru Crosstrek, in the old wild night, brimming with the uncertainty of life and the nonchalance of failure, we paraded ourselves back to Dallas. Alive in the river silence that follows us everywhere.

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