Pat vs. Glenn

GLENN: Pat and I are just having an argument here.

PAT: Uh huh.

GLENN: He thinks that we are responsible for Mike Lee's victory

PAT: I think it's pretty clear. Don't you think it's pretty clear?

GLENN: No, I don't.

PAT: We had him on the day before the election.

GLENN: But we also had his opponent on.

PAT: But we didn't like his opponent.

GLENN: We didn't say that.

PAT: I know, but it came through.

GLENN: Is that what it is?

PAT: Yeah, because people are, like, Hey, aren't Glenn, Pat, and Stu kind of saying Mike Lee's the guy?

GLENN: No. My theory

PAT: And we're saying, yeah, we are, sort of.

GLENN: My theory is may have something to do with Freedom Works.

PAT: Well, there's that. What do I know?



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GLENN: I was talking to Matt Kibbe. I want you to know Freedom Works is a sponsor of this program. Hi Matt. How are you?

KIBBE: I'm doing great. How are you guys?

GLENN: Good. I walk out of the studio the other day. You were meeting with our salespeople. I walk out of the studio and you're just getting ready to go and we have a conversation and it was the day after the election that changed a lot of things. We were just talking about it and I said, What was your involvement? And you talked about how nobody in Utah is one of them, that Freedom Works was sleeping for days.

KIBBE: Yeah.

GLENN: What is happening on the ground?

KIBBE: I think the lead campaign and by the way, there's a lot of people that deserve credit and I think you do deserve a little bit of the credit.

PAT: See. I told you. He gave you all the credit right there.

GLENN: No. Go ahead.

KIBBE: You put the candidates on and people were able to to hear the Stark difference between Mike Lee and Bridgewater and what happened on the ground and you've got to give the activists on the ground the credit for doing a remarkable overturn of what I would call the political establishment.

GLENN: Well, this is what was so shocking. As Pat and I were talking, wasn't it a 20

PAT: He was down Matt, you probably know better than we do, but I think Mike Lee was down by was it 9 or 11 points going into that election?

KIBBE: He was down 9 points in the weekend before the Tuesday vote.

PAT: Down by 9 points. So, that was an amazing turnaround.

GLENN: How did it happen?

KIBBE: Lee was being outspent and I think this is a classic example of that I think is the new model. The new model is a ground game of, frankly, decentralized activists who had gotten engaged with Mike Lee and saw him as being willing to come back to Washington and upset the status quo. They went door to door and while Bridgewater was fighting this fight on the air waves, we were helping the activists go door to door and getting people to show up and vote and that's what it was and that is an opportunity that you can extrapolate across the country and I like to say that the Tea Party movement and this big surge of limited government activists that are showing up for the first time, this is what Howard Dean used to brag about. We have a 50 state strategy. We have local communities who are getting engaged in politics for the first time an that's an opportunity, if we're start about it.

GLENN: Why does it seem to you that the left doesn't seem to care about elections? I mean, they're not really they didn't they don't care about their poll numbers. They just keep steam rolling. It is that they are so arrogant that they know something we don't know or what do you suppose this is? Have you ever seen this attitude?

KIBBE: Yes.

GLENN: Have you ever seen this before

KIBBE: It's different and I think that's it's arrogance about their ideas but they also think they can get away with it because the voters will forget by the time the election comes around and wrong I think they're being caught flat footed, as well. They just don't understand just how powerful this grass roots surge and they're looking at the traditional democrat republican dynamics and saying, well, we can beat them at the polls because our guys are better at organizing on the ground.

GLENN: All right. So, let me ask you this: Have you seen the turn around at all, any signs of life in the republican camp, because I don't know how they haven't gotten the message, either. I know some have, but I don't know how they have not seen the writing on the wall that it is, again, the establishment Republicans that you guys have helped put in place with the American people, I mean, it's not that you guys are doing it. It is that's where the American people are right now?

KIBBE: Yeah.

GLENN: And the establishment on both sides, both parties, don't seem to understand the game is over, the lies won't be accepted anymore.

KIBBE: I think that the republican establishment has to be brought kicking and screaming to this new understanding of how the world works.

GLENN: Well, how many times do we have to lose? I mean, look how many times the republican establishment has lost in the last year and they still don't seem to get it.

KIBBE: Well, we're happy to keep teaching them the lesson. And I think that's that's what you have to do and, you know, our whole attitude about political parties is that they're empty vessels and they could stand for anything depending on what they think gets them through the next week, but the only way that this is going to work is if the people stay vigilant and replace some bad Republicans with better fiscal conservatives and if we can find better fiscal conservatives amongst the Democrats I don't know if you've noticed this but the Democrats are also running against their own President and against their own party in order to win elections, but they will say things some of them believe it. Some of them don't, but the day after the election is just as important if not more so. We've got to stay vigilant. We've got to stay organized and we've got to hold these days accountable 365 days a year. Otherwise, they'll break our hearts again.

PAT: Now, Matt, has Freedom Works organized this kind of grass roots support and activism all across the country in these races for conservatives?

KIBBE: Absolutely. We're looking at 55 house seats and 12 Senate seats where there are opportunities to, you know you're not always going to get the perfect candidate.

GLENN: Well, what do you

KIBBE: on the republican side.

GLENN: What are you doing in Arizona? I mean, that is a nightmare.

KIBBE: It is a nightmare and I've got tell you, we're as uninchanted with John McCain as anybody but we don't see J. D. Hayworth as a better alternative.

PAT: That's the problem, what do you do in a case like that?

GLENN: I don't like John McCain at all. I don't think I can even hold my nose and vote for him.

KIBBE: Yeah.

GLENN: It's insulting, but , if I were in Arizona I couldn't vote for J. D. Hayworth. I mean, I know part of the thing is and, gosh, I don't want this to sound like an infomercial, but, I mean, this is what you do and this is why I am endorsing you on the program. How are you growing new people, because I meet people all the time who say, do you know what, Glenn? I'm going to go into it. I'm willing to go into it and they have no idea, A, what they're doing on how to organize and everything else, how to be a politician, God forbid, and, 2, they also don't know the buzz saw that they're about to walk into.

KIBBE: Yeah. Well, that's one thing that hopefully we bring to the table and we try to meet with the local organizations, not to not to take them over and not to tell them what to do but, for instance, a bunch of my guys are going to Ohio next week starting in Dayton and there's a lot of battle ground races going on in that part of the country, but our job is to sort of teach them, be if you want to have affective in the political cycle, how do you do basic get out the vote and how do you make sure that you're organizing in a way so that when you get your candidate elected, you have the means of disciplining that person when they go off the straight and narrow.

PAT: Matt, do you see the Republicans taking back control of the house in 2010?

KIBBE: I do.

GLENN: Okay. Let me ask you this: Do you fear at all a lame duck session where this President has already said, Hey, you know, I'll give you this appointment, I'll do this for you, I'll do this, where they make deals? Are you afraid of a lame duck session where this Congress passes everything and anything that they want in the meantime, in between the transition?

KIBBE: In fact, we just launched a project called nolameduck.com because we're scared to death that all of these things with you know, with senator Byrd passing away, financial so called financial regulation has been derailed, cap and trade, card check, new tax increases. Think of a horror list of things they're going to do. They're going to come back in a lame duck and try to do this.

GLENN: Oh, I think quite honestly, I think the financial regulation, I think is going to go through. You don't think it will go through?

KIBBE: I don't think it will.

GLENN: Oh, God bless you.

KIBBE: which is a wonderful, like, gift that our set probably doesn't deserve but talk about entrenching, not too big to fail, talk about rewarding.

GLENN: No kidding.

KIBBE: political connections as a way of doing business. I mean, it's everything Obama said he was against and here he is entrenching the status quo.

GLENN: They're calling the head of AIG to testify in front of the committee to try to figure out what the hell happened in the financial meltdown and, yet, we already have the legislation to fix it. We haven't even finished the investigation! That doesn't even make any sense.

KIBBE: It's what it's what some folks like to call crony capitalism and it's it basically socializes risk and punishes well run banks to prop up the behavior of banks like AIG.

GLENN: Well, Matt, best of luck and thank you so much for all that you guys are doing and keep your souls. Does everybody have their soul there?

KIBBE: We still have our soulds and it's hard to do when you're based in Washington DC.

GLENN: Oh, you're based in Washington. Oh, that's not good.

PAT: Is there, like a soul protector you guys can put up around your

GLENN: I mean, honestly, I know you know because we've spoken before. I know you know how much the American people are skeptical of everybody and everything and you are on the right side, you're fighting for the right things, and I just mean everybody and we talk about this on our staff, as well, how that we all understand the profound responsibility that we have of not violating people's trust and just staying on the right course and it's hard to do in today's world. It is hard to do.

KIBBE: It's hard to do and in particularly when you get involved in politics like this, but it's I mean, it in some ways it's hard but it's also pretty easy because some of these issues are pretty black and white. You know what the right thing to do is.

GLENN: Yeah.

KIBBE: And in this world you have thousands and thousands of people that can judge you immediately if you try to stray off the straight and narrow.

GLENN: Matt, best of luck and we'll talk again. Matt Kibbe from Freedom Works.

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Shortly after appearing on "The Glenn Beck Radio Program" last Thursday, Los Angeles-based emergency medicine specialist Dr. Simone Gold got a call saying she was fired for speaking out about the efficacy of hydroxychloroquine in a now-banned viral video.

Dr. Gold returned to the radio program Monday to detail exactly what happened, the reason the hospitals gave for her firing, and how they threatened to fire her colleagues as well if she "didn't go quietly."

"Most emergency physicians work at more than one [hospital], as I do, and I've actually been fired from both," she told Glenn. "They told me that I appeared in an embarrassing video, and therefore, I would no longer be welcome to work there ... then they said, if I didn't go quietly and I made a fuss, they would have all the doctors in the group, you know, they'd have to go and they'll get a whole new doctor group."

Dr. Gold said she does not regret speaking out about hydroxychloroquine during the controversial "White Coat Summit" news conference held in Washington, D.C., last week. A video of the news conference quickly went viral on social media before being removed by Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, and others for allegedly making false claims related to COVID-19.

"Bring it on," she said. "I want to continue to live in America. I want my children to continue to live in America. I don't want them to grow up in a place like China. When you get to a point where, not only can I not speak as a scientist, as a doctor, for what I know to be absolutely true, but you then want to cancel me and my colleagues, this is not okay. I would much rather fight than not fight ... and I want everybody to know that there are literally millions and millions of Americans who are on our side. Millions. I believe it's the majority."

Glenn then asked Dr. Gold to weigh in on the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's new guidelines encouraging schools to reopen in the fall and the left's relentless drive to keep them closed.

"There's no actual scientific debate whatsoever if schools should open. None. There's no scientific debate. There's no serious person who thinks schools shouldn't open. Now, [through] some governors and policy makers, there's pressure being brought to bear on school districts, but there's no actual scientific debate. So it's going to come down to parents pressuring their local school districts to act in a responsible fashion."

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Fox News host Greg Gutfeld joined Glenn on "The Glenn Beck Podcast" this week to talk about his new book, "The Plus: Self-Help for People Who Hate Self-Help."

Greg admits he is probably the last person who should write a self-help book. Nevertheless, he offers his offbeat advice on how to save America during what has become one of the most tumultuous times in history, as well as drinking while tweeting (spoiler: don't do it).

He also shares his "evolution" on President Donald Trump, his prediction for the election, and what it means to be an agnostic-atheist.

In this clip, Greg shares what he calls his "first great epiphany" on how dangerous cancel culture has become.

"I believe that cancel culture is the first successful work-around of the First Amendment," he said. "Because freedom of speech doesn't protect me from my career being ruined, my livelihood being destroyed, or me getting so depressed I commit suicide. Cancel culture is the first successful work-around of freedom of speech. It can oppress your speech with the scepter of destruction. We don't have freedom of speech anymore."

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Dr. Simone Gold joined Glenn Beck on the radio program Thursday to set the record straight about hydroxychloroquine -- what it is, how it works, and the real reason for all the current controversy surrounding a centuries-old medication.

Dr. Gold is a board certified emergency physician. She graduated from Chicago Medical School before attending Stanford University Law School. She completed her residency in emergency medicine at Stony Brook University Hospital in New York, and worked in Washington D.C. for the Surgeon General, as well for the chairman of the Committee on Labor and Human Resources. She works as an emergency physician on the front lines, whether or not there is a pandemic, and her clinical work serves all Americans from urban inner city to suburban and the Native American population. Her legal practice focuses on policy issues relating to law and medicine.

She is also the founder of America's frontline doctors, a group of doctors who have been under attack this week for speaking out about hydroxychloroquine during a news conference held outside the U.S. Supreme Court in Washington D.C.

On the program, Dr. Gold emphasized that the controversy over hydroxychloroquine is a "complete myth."

"Hydroxychloroquine is an analogue or a derivative of quinine, which is found in tree bark. It's the most noncontroversial of medications that there is," she explained.

"It's been around for centuries and it's been FDA-approved in the modern version, called hydroxychloroquine, for 65 years. In all of that time, [doctors] used it for breast-feeding women, pregnant women, elderly, children, and immune compromised. The typical use is for years or even decades because we give it mostly to RA, rheumatoid arthritis patients and lupus patients who need to be on it, essentially, all of their life. So, we have extensive experience with it ... it's one of the most commonly used medications throughout the world."

Dr. Gold told Glenn she was surprised when the media suddenly "vomited all over hydroxychloroquine", but initially chalked it up to the left's predictable hatred for anything President Donald Trump endorses. However, when the media gave the drug Remdesivir glowing reviews, despite disappointing clinical trial results, she decided to do some research.

"[Remdesivir] certainly wasn't a fabulous drug, but the media coverage was all about how fabulous it was. At that moment, I thought that was really weird. Because it's one thing to hate hydroxychloroquine because the president [endorsed] it. But it's another thing to give a free pass to another medicine that doesn't seem that great. I thought that was really weird, so I started looking into it. And let me tell you, what I discovered was absolutely shocking," she said.

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According to the mainstream media's COVID-19 narrative, the president is "ignoring" the crisis.

On tonight's "Glenn TV" special, Glenn Beck exposes the media's last four months of political theater that has helped shape America's confusion and fear over coronavirus. And now, with a new school year looming on the horizon, the ongoing hysteria has enormous ramifications for our children, but the media is working overtime to paint the Trump administration as anti-science Neanderthals who want to send children and teachers off to die by reopening schools.

Glenn fights back with the facts and interviews the medical doctor Big Tech fears the most. Dr. Simone Gold, founder of America's Frontline Doctors, stands up to the media's smear campaign and explains why she could no longer stay silent in her fight against coronavirus fear.

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