Congressman Michele Bachmann
GLENN: Michele Bachmann is with us, one of the good guys in congress. Hello, congressman. How are you?
BACHMANN: Hey, it is great to talk with you, Glenn. I'm right here looking at our nation's capitol right now.
GLENN: I am sorry for that. Michele, first of all, let me ask you, how is the race going? It kills me. Harry Reid is still in the race and how far is he down. But you are up by nine points, and I actually saw a headline yesterday, Michele Bachmann, only up by nine points in Minnesota. In Minnesota, for the love of Pete!
BACHMANN: Al Franken country.
BACHMANN: Let me tell you.
GLENN: Have you done a prison outreach at all yet?
BACHMANN: That's right, a prison outreach. Because we had 341 felons that had voted for Al Franken, that's right.
BACHMANN: Well, Speaker Pelosi has made me her number one target for defeat, and she raised almost a million dollars for my opponent just this last quarter. The pro abortion group Emily's List made me their number one target to defeat. So did the radical environmental group League of Conservation Voters. So I mean, they are very serious about making me their number one piñata to take down and they are doing everything they can.
GLENN: Hang on. How's your fundraising going?
BACHMANN: Well, we're keeping up. I mean, we're keeping up, we're keeping pace but we've got to keep on.
GLENN: Give me your web address.
BACHMANN: Oh, sure. It's MicheleBachmann.com. One L in Michele, two Ns, MicheleBachmann.com.
GLENN: How many Bs?
BACHMANN: One. I can't help it I married a guy with a German last name.
GLENN: Michele, MicheleBachmann.com. Michele, this financial regulation is coming through probably tomorrow.
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GLENN: How much trouble are we in?
BACHMANN: We're in big trouble, Glenn, because it will mean continuous bailouts and only gets worse because now under this bill, the president bypasses congress. They don't have to go through that messy process of getting congress to vote on any more bailouts going forward. The president on his own can give bailouts. And what's worse, the president now has the authority to completely go into a viable private business and take it over. So the government can take over a private business if they, quote, deem it too big to fail. And, of course, these are all vague terms, but it would empower the president for the first time in our history to be able to just walk in and take over a private business.
GLENN: Let me ask you. How much of a stretch is it to think that a company that could be a threat to the economy, because that's how really to deemed to fail is kind of secondarily expressed in this bill, a threat to the economy, would be NewsCorp. I mean, why couldn't the president just go in and say, you know what? What you guys are doing, what you guys are saying is hurting the economy, it is bringing things down, you are being, you know, too negative. You could make a million excuses and go in and take over Fox, couldn't you?
BACHMANN: Well, under this law, that would be possible now. Before when you look at the White House walking in and taking over GM, Chrysler, Freddie, Fannie, AIG, the largest insurance company in America, the largest banks in America, CitiBank, Bank of America, they took over the student loan industry. Over 51% of our private economy has already come under either direct ownership or control of the federal government. That's happened, Glenn, in the last 18 to 20 months. It started under President Bush with the $700 billion bailout, but it's rocked up into mach speed under President Obama. It's a very frightening scenario and quite frankly if we can elect constitutional conservatives, a majority of constitutional conservatives this November, what we need to do is have the United States repeal all of that and get out of the federal government owning or controlling private industry. That's the real hidden story of the last 18 to 20 months is the federal government takeover of one private industry after another.
GLENN: Okay. Let me ask you two questions because you say, you know, we've got to have new Republicans, constitutional Republicans, free market thinkers.
BACHMANN: Constitutional conservatives.
BACHMANN: To me it doesn't matter. We need constitutional conservatives.
GLENN: Got it.
BACHMANN: That's the majority we need.
GLENN: Constitutional — you know what? You can have constitutional — I'd rather have Penn Jillette in there than most of these other people. Just people who know the Constitution and understand freedom.
BACHMANN: That's right.
GLENN: So help me out with — help me out with this. Tell me, if we have these Democrats being thrown out of office and we have crummy Republicans being thrown out of office, there's a lame duck session.
BACHMANN: Yeah, that's right.
GLENN: You tell me what stops, you tell me what stops these people. Because this is my real fear. They are ramping up civil unrest.
GLENN: These communists, the Black Panthers and everything else, they are going to ramp this stuff up all the way in October, into November. They are going to be in the polling areas, they are going to have — there's going to be cries of voter fraud from both sides of the aisle. We're not going to trust anything. Then Americans believe in fair play. If indeed these Republicans come in and they are the ones that have said we're going to repeal all of this stuff, the lame duck congress is then going to say, you cheated, you did this, you did that, and they are going to just jam through card check and absolutely everything else. They will also, I think, entangle us in foreign treaties. They will just rubber stamp foreign treaties. The people who believe in America and fair trade — fair play, we have sat through this, we have argued, we have played with the system the right way. If they do that in a lame duck session, it will set the country on fire. Now, you tell me. I think that works to his advantage, but you tell me, Michele, the odds that they won't do a lame duck session like that.
BACHMANN: I think the odds are very high that they will do that session. There's a reason why they are inkling right now, to set the stage and let everybody know what's coming. And I think you will see the biggest ticket items possible, amnesty for illegal aliens, I think you'll see the national energy tax, cap and trade, I think you'll see the card check to pass for the unions, the SEIU people. I think you'll see all of that and more, and huge egregious spending. I heard yesterday on natural resources committee they put $900 million into a bill, 90 times more than what they previously put in to purchase lands in the Western part of the United States, the federal government purchase of more Western land. They are setting themselves up to do all of this, but what can stop them in my opinion, before the election, would be shame, shaming them so that when they have town hall meetings, whether they're senators or members of congress, if your people who are armed with the knowledge go to these town hall meetings or confront them and say to them, will you say publicly that you will not vote for any of these measures in a lame duck session, then they will be put on the record now.
GLENN: Doesn't matter. President Obama was on the record that we wouldn't fund abortions. He signed an executive order. We're funding abortions now!
BACHMANN: Right. And it is a — for the first time in the history of the country. We have never had federal taxpayer funding of abortion before and this is the first time. And you are right, he looked in the camera. But that's one man. Not all of the senators and congressmen are Barack Obama, and shame may work on some of them. And I just think that there's something so beautiful about the honesty and integrity of the American people engaged in our wonderful system that we have here in our constitutional republic and so I just encourage people. That is some leverage that we have right now that when we have personal engagement with our members of congress, get them on record before November that they will not vote for any clandestine deal like a lame duck session. It's the best we've got right now. And then put your chips on November. Work actively to elect constitutional conservatives. With a majority like that, we can at least close the purse strings on President Obama. And you are right about the treaty. This START treaty is a disastrous treaty that would hurt our national security and that's something again President Obama's trying to give away the store and so we've got to make sure that that doesn't happen in the Senate.
GLENN: Michele Bachmann is with us. Michele, I want to switch gears here and stop talking about politics and talk a little bit about 8/28 and an event that I would love to have you at or speak at, but I can't
BACHMANN: Consider it done. I'm there.
GLENN: No, you can be there but I can't have you, I can't have you speak because I don't want this to be viewed as a political partisan kind of thing.
BACHMANN: Well, sure, sure.
GLENN: And you are a politician. I say that with respect for you. I don't mean to smear you with
BACHMANN: I'm a mother. That's what I really am.
GLENN: Smear you with the name politician. But you have donated a tour of the U.S. capitol with David Barton.
GLENN: Do you know when this is? Or is this whenever people want to do that?
BACHMANN: This is at the convenience of the person who's purchasing it.
GLENN: Okay. So you two can go on a tour, and he's an amazing guy.
BACHMANN: He really is.
GLENN: That can tell you stories about the capitol that you just, be mind blowing. But you are also going to take people where in the capitol?
BACHMANN: Well, we will go all through the capitol. I've gone on a David Barton tour of the capitol. There is nothing like it. You can walk through the beautiful marble halls of the capitol, but it won't come to the life, to life with the stories of our founders until you are with David Barton who shares the stories, and he pulls out literally original source documents and reads from those original documents the beautiful words of our founders, of their sacrifice, and their forward looking vision for all of us. And so we'll be going all through the capitol to give a spectacular tour. Both David Barton and myself will be giving this tour, and I'll give my insights and background that I have and my experiences here in the capitol, what we do, where we meet, what goes on. And David, of course, will be giving, like no one else can do other than David Barton, his lifetime of work understanding America's rich heritage of freedom, and he will be sharing that on the tour. It will be — it will be magnificent. I have gone on these tours and I will tell you, it is easy to be prone to despair sometimes working here in Washington D.C., but when I go on a David Barton tour, my heart sings and I'm inspired to continue and go on and continue with my work. So I want your listeners to know this will be one of the most inspiring —
GLENN: It will be.
BACHMANN: — tours of their life.
GLENN: It will be.
BACHMANN: — that they take. It will be a privilege to be on that tour.
GLENN: I will tell you that I have been trying to get down to Washington with David forever to do this tour and to have him show some things to me. He is the most amazing guy.
BACHMANN: He is.
GLENN: And to be able to walk around there with you and David Barton, and I have to let you know whoever wins this bid, I may be riding your coattails if I can free up my schedule that day, whatever day is selected, I want to go on the tour as well because it really is phenomenal.
BACHMANN: It is. It's like nothing you've ever seen before.
GLENN: Okay, Michele, thank you so much. And God bless you and thank you for all the hard work. And thank you for being somebody who is willing to stick their neck out and say the things that have to be said. You are a rare, rare gem in American politics right now, and I support you and God bless you. God bless you. Thanks, Michele.
BACHMANN: Thanks, Glenn. Thanks so much. And I look forward to having you come on that tour if you can make it.
GLENN: Michele Bachmann. By the way, you can bid on that and many of the other auction items. Many of them close on Monday.
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