Glenn interviews Senator Orrin Hatch

US Senator Orrin Hatch

GLENN: One of the guys who has been helping behind the scenes is Senator Orrin Hatch. The senator and I, we have differing opinions on things, and I have both praised the man and taken him to task, but I find him an honorable man. And really that is the one thing that is lacking in Washington is honor. He is one of the guys who has been helping behind the scenes. Several people have been helping on this particular event, but I wanted to get him on because I want to talk to him a little bit first of all to say thank you for this. And also the financial bill. Welcome, Senator Orrin Hatch to the program. How are you, sir?

HATCH: I'm doing fine, Glenn. Nice to talk to you. I don't think we differ on too many things.

GLENN: I think — you know my biggest thing I think we differ on is a conversation that we had, I don't know, a couple of years ago — or a year ago or so on Cass Sunstein.

HATCH: Oh, yeah.

GLENN: You said to me, you know, I just don't think that he's going to do all that, you know, much damage. And where we differ, Senator, I think is you're more of an optimist and you have more hope in people in Washington than I do.

HATCH: Well, he wrote the book on cost benefit analysis and that's — look, I differ with him on almost everything he teaches.

GLENN: Right.

HATCH: Just like you do. But when it comes to cost benefit analysis, this administration needs that. And hopefully he will do a job there.

GLENN: Oh, he's doing a job.

HATCH: He wrote the book on it and hopefully he can prove to be good there. And I generally take the position that the president should have the team that he wants unless there's some really important reason for not allowing it, and in that particular case I felt like since he's the authority on that, you know, that's not a bad appointment. And he promised me he would keep himself restrained to cost benefit analysis of their programs.

GLENN: This is —

HATCH: You don't believe him ?

GLENN: Not for a second. I think this guy is the most dangerous man in America, but this is where we disagree.

HATCH: Yeah.

GLENN: But let's move on. Can you help me with the financial reform bill? You are standing against it today, are you not?

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HATCH: Oh, yeah. I think that's going to be a disaster to this country.

GLENN: I mean, we have Roubini saying that the economy is about — the global economy is about to fold in on itself and we have a financial bill that rips the heart out of this engine.

HATCH: You know, the interesting thing is that I don't think it's going to be very hard on Wall Street. It's going to be hard on Main Street.

GLENN: Oh, yeah.

HATCH: Main Street didn't cause these problems.

GLENN: Oh, yeah.

HATCH: It was Wall Street and the large banks. And I tell you it's just amazing how that's come about. And they do absolutely nothing about Fannie and Freddie where it all began. We're facing a trillion dollars of taxpayer losses because of Fannie and Freddie.

GLENN: Tell me some of the things that are in this bill that people just don't know and need to know.

HATCH: Well, there are a lot of things in there. I think the most important thing is number — what's not in there and that is they are doing nothing about Fannie and Freddie and that's going to continue on at a huge cost to taxpayers and we're going to find in the future we're going to have to bail out Fannie and Freddie because of the mess that they are making. But it has the consumer protection aspect that adds to four different consumer aspects, you know, that we already have in place who didn't do the job. So we're going to get some more bureaucrats who won't do the job? This administration's great at creating government jobs. They are not very good at creating private sector jobs, and you can just go on and on. The impositions that they are going to put on banks, and I might add the too big to fail, they say it's not going to augment too big to fail. Of course it is. There's funds in there to do that. There are questions about — well, we're going to allow a lot of bureaucrats to determine systemic risk.

GLENN: Are you —

HATCH: And that's not the way to go, you know? I could just go on and on.

GLENN: Are you — is there any chance of stopping this at all?

HATCH: Well, I don't think so because we've lost three of ours. You know, I make the point over and over. You know, I'm vice chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee. Everybody knows me and if I can get them on the phone, they will give money to help us try and fight these things, but I've got to tell you, last year at this time when we only had 40 senators, some of the people who always gave, just a few of them would say, well, I'm sick of you Republicans, too, because look at what you did. You had six years where you controlled both houses and the presidency and look what you did, and I always answered it this way: Yeah, we should have done better and the president should have given us veto power in the first seven years. But you need to know something. At that time I was in the Senate 33 years and I said, I've been in the Senate 33 years and there's not been one day where we had a fiscal conservative majority in the Senate. We've always had three to six liberal Republicans from blue states. You know, in a way you can't blame them, but who would go with the all liberal Democrats. And the only reason we've won a lot of things is I'm sure good presidential leadership, Reagan, Bush 1, Bush 2 and even Clinton on occasion but, you know, most of the time we just didn't have the votes from a fiscal conservative standpoint. I just live for the day when we have 60 votes in the Senate who are fiscal conservatives.

GLENN: Are you concerned at all after the election that this lame duck congress is going to rubber stamp every radical idea and jam it through?

HATCH: You are darn right I'm concerned. What they do is they come up with a huge continuing resolution and they throw everything in there but the kitchen sink and even that sometimes. And frankly we just have to stop it. Fortunately we do have 41 Republicans, and some of the Democrats are starting to get a little jittery, too. So we'll just have to see. But they are going to try and put all kinds of stuff in there like card check and so forth.

GLENN: Senator, I thank you very much for your time.

HATCH: Great to be with you. I'm looking forward to seeing you out in my hometown of Salt Lake.

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The current riots and movement to erase America's history are exactly in line with the New York Times' "1619 Project," which argues that America was rotten at its beginning, and that slavery and systemic racism are the roots of everything from capitalism to our lack of universal health care.

On this week's Wednesday night special, Glenn Beck exposed the true intent of the "1619 Project" and its creator, who justifies remaking America into a Marxist society. This clever lie is disguised as history, and it has already infiltrated our schools.

"The '1619 Project' desperately wants to pass itself off as legitimate history, but it totally kneecaps itself by ignoring so much of the American story. There's no mention of any black Americans who succeeded in spite of slavery, due to the free market capitalist system. In the 1619 Project's effort to take down America, black success stories are not allowed. Because they don't fit with the narrative. The role of white Americans in abolishing slavery doesn't fit the narrative either," Glenn said.

"The agenda is not ultimately about history," he added. "It's just yet another vehicle in the fleet now driven by elites in America toward socialism."

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Acclaimed environmentalist and author of "Apocalypse Never" Michael Shellenberger joined Glenn Beck on the radio program Wednesday to warn us about the true goals and effects of climate alarmism: It's become a "secular religion" that lowers standards of living in developed countries, holds developing countries back, and has environmental progress "exactly wrong."

Michael is a Time "Hero of the Environment," Green Book Award winner, and the founder and president of Environmental Progress. He has been called a "environmental guru," "climate guru," "North America's leading public intellectual on clean energy," and "high priest" of the environmental humanist movement for his writings and TED talks, which have been viewed more than 5 million times. But when Michael penned a stunning article in Forbes saying, "On Behalf of Environmentalists, I Apologize for the Climate Scare", the article was pulled just a few hours later. (Read more here.)

On the show, Micheal talked about how environmental alarmism has overtaken scientific fact, leading to a number of unfortunate consequences. He said one of the problems is that rich nations are blocking poor nations from being able to industrialize. Instead, they are seeking to make poverty sustainable, rather than to make poverty history.

"As a cultural anthropologist, I've been traveling to poorer countries and interviewing small farmers for over 30 years. And, obviously there are a lot of causes why countries are poor, but there's no reason we should be helping them to stay poor," Michael said. "A few years ago, there was a movement to make poverty history ... [but] it got taken over by the climate alarmist movement, which has been focused on depriving poor countries, not just of fossil fuels they need to develop, but also the large hydroelectric dams."

He offered the example of the Congo, one of the poorest countries in the world. The Congo has been denied the resources needed to build large hydroelectric dams, which are absolutely essential to pull people out of poverty. And one of the main groups preventing poor countries from the gaining financing they need to to build dams is based in Berkeley, California — a city that gets its electricity from hydroelectric dams.

"It's just unconscionable ... there are major groups, including the Sierra Club, that support efforts to deprive poor countries of energy. And, honestly, they've taken over the World Bank [which] used to fund the basics of development: roads, electricity, sewage systems, flood control, dams," Micheal said.

"Environmentalism, apocalyptic environmentalism in particular, has become the dominant religion of supposedly secular people in the West. So, you know, it's people at the United Nations. It's people that are in very powerful positions who are trying to impose 'nature's order' on societies," he continued. "And, of course, the problem is that nobody can figure out what nature is, and what it's not. That's not a particular good basis for organizing your economy."

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Dr. Voddie Baucham, Dean of Theology at African Christian University in Lusaka, Zambia, joined Glenn Beck on the radio program to explain why he agrees with Vice President Mike Pence's refusal to say the phrase "Black Lives Matter."

Baucham, who recently drew national attention when his sermon titled "Ethnic Gnosticism" resurfaced online, said the phrase has been trademarked by a dangerous, violent, Marxist movement that doesn't care about black lives except to use them as political pawns.

"We have to separate this movement from the issues," Baucham warned. "I know that [Black Lives Matter] is a phrase that is part of an organization. It is a trademark phrase. And it's a phrase designed to use black people.

"That phrase dehumanizes black people, because it makes them pawns in a game that has nothing whatsoever to do with black people and their dignity. And has everything to do with a divisive agenda that is bigger than black people. That's why I'm not going to use that phrase, because I love black people. I love being black."

Baucham warned that Black Lives Matter -- a radical Marxist movement -- is using black people and communities to push a dangerous and divisive narrative. He encouraged Americans to educate themselves on the organization's agenda and belief statement.

"This movement is dangerous. This movement is vicious. And this movement uses black people," he emphasized. "And so if I'm really concerned about issues in the black community -- and I am -- then I have to refuse, and I have to repudiate that organization. Because they stand against that for which I am advocating."

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We're going to be doing an amazing broadcast on Thursday, July 2nd, and we will be broadcasting a really important moment. It is restoring truth. It is restoring our history. It is asking to you make a covenant with God. The covenant that was made by the Pilgrims. And it's giving you a road map of things that we can do, to be able to come back home, together.

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