GLENN: 888-727-BECK, 888-727-BECK. It's our yearly prediction show where we make all kinds of just wild predictions on speculation, you know, and then we see how right we were or how wrong we were. I stand by that sometime in the last year during a 30-day period Britney Spears did wear underpants. That was last year's prediction. I stand by at some point that happened.
STU: Blatantly wrong, totally wrong on that.
GLENN: You have no proof that she --
STU: You have no proof that she did wear them.
GLENN: For a 30-day period in a whole year, you don't think she was wearing underpants in a 30-day period?
STU: What evidence do you have that she's done that? None.
GLENN: We go to Anderson Cooper now. Hello, Anderson.
COOPER: What evidence that she was wearing them in the perfect place, possibly on her head.
GLENN: Okay, I didn't say where she was wearing them, Stu.
COOPER: See, there you go.
GLENN: You think she was wearing underpants where underpants usually belong in a 30-day period?
COOPER: I think that's probably a safe bet for at least a day or a couple of hours.
GLENN: I never said that, either, Stu. I didn't say she had to wear them the whole day.
STU: I should have unfocused you more here.
GLENN: See, Anderson, you are a good man. You are a good man. How are you?
COOPER: I'm doing all right. How are you?
GLENN: Very good. You and Neil Cavuto, my two favorite people in television. I think you're just spectacular people and I just enjoy you and it's an honor to have you on the program.
COOPER: Are we here to talk about your butt surgery again?
GLENN: Did you see it on TV today again?
COOPER: I heard it was on TV. I'm looking for the transcript.
GLENN: Can we stop with the butt surgery? I thought it was I'm talking about politics today and they are like, and coming up, Glenn Beck had butt surgery. I'm like, why is this continuing?
COOPER: Well, you know, a lot of people want to get a hold of your butt, I guess.
GLENN: This is an uncomfortable conversation. Can somebody call HR? By the way, thanks for putting me on last night, although, Anderson, I don't think anybody in your audience likes me.
COOPER: You don't think so?
COOPER: I don't know about that.
COOPER: Well --
GLENN: You see, it's like the underpants thing.
COOPER: I ran into Chuck Norris once. He told me he likes to see you. He saw it as something we did together.
COOPER: Although maybe that was on your show.
GLENN: Is Chuck -- yeah, I think it was on my show. It was on my show.
COOPER: Yeah, I think it was.
GLENN: Yeah, Chuck Norris is a fan of my program. Is Chuck on today? I heard Chuck Norris was supposed to be on today. No? No, on radio today. Sylvester Stallone, is he going to be on tomorrow? Yeah, he's going to be on?
COOPER: Really? That's cool. Have you ever talked to him?
GLENN: No, I never have. Have you?
COOPER: No, never. I'm curious.
GLENN: About what?
COOPER: I don't know. Just what he would be like.
GLENN: Like what are you doing? What have you been up to? I have to tell you, Anderson, I told you this the other day and I don't know if you remember because you were in the middle of the election coverage but my daughter and I sat and we watched your piece on 60 Minutes on Sunday about the Congo. One of the most unbelievable stories I have ever, ever seen, systematic rape to keep an entire population down.
COOPER: Yeah, it's pretty shocking. I mean, what's incredible about the Congo is some four million people have died there in the last ten years and no one really knows about it, really seems to care that much about it and hundreds of thousands of women have been raped and most of them gang raped. It's hard to believe it's happening.
GLENN: I mean, from little children to grandmothers, and I saw that and it was so hard to watch. My daughter and I just kept -- it was like a horror movie. We watched it, you know, through our fingers and I mean this sincerely. How the hell do you do it? How do you do it and not kill yourself? How do you go to these places and see the things that you do and then come back to New York and you're standing on the set, you know, a couple of days later going, yeah, so Britney Spears, wearing underpants or not. How do you do it?
COOPER: Well, to be honest if I had to talk about Britney Spears, that's when I probably would kill myself. But, you know, I feel lucky frankly to be able to go to these places and, you know, tell these women's stories. I mean --
GLENN: What's the hardest thing that you've ever had to witness or do or talk, a person that you've had to talk to?
COOPER: You know, it's really this story is among the hardest. I mean, talking to women about rape is never easy obviously and in this situation, you know, there's cultural barriers and, you know, you don't speak the same language and you're asking them incredibly, you know, horrific personal questions and you're trying to do it in a way that's sensitive and through a translator. So for me this was pretty, as pretty much as bad as it gets. Not in terms of, like, physical safety but just in terms of, you know, the subject matter.
GLENN: All right. So tonight you're running a special on CNN, race and politics.
COOPER: On Monday night. I know you're going to be thrilled by it.
GLENN: You know, this pisses me off. Well, you know, we talked about it. This pisses me off. I don't know why this is a story. I don't know why -- I mean, do we not live in a country where an African-American can be elected? Do we not live in a country where a woman can be elected, where a Mormon can be elected? What kind of country are we living in?
COOPER: I don't think anyone knows the answer to that question. I mean, I think we'll see. But, you know, I think race clearly plays a role whether we like it or not in a variety of ways I'm not sure we know all the ways it does play a role. That's one of the things we'll be looked at on Monday night. But I hear you. Who wants to be talking about hyphenated Americans. We should -- everybody would like to be in a place where there are no hyphens.
GLENN: Here's where I think everybody in the media's missing it. Race plays a role when race can help win an election. That's the only time. For instance, Condoleezza Rice, I mean, conservatives love Condoleezza Rice. Colin Powell, they love Colin Powell. May not like his policies but love Colin Powell. And you don't ever hear about all the, you know, "Where's my stars and bars." You don't hear about those people with Condoleezza Rice and Colin Powell and yet when it's on the other side, when it's a liberal, then all of a sudden race plays a role. Why.
COOPER: I don't know that that's entirely accurate. I mean, Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice are not running for anything and, you know, we live in an age where it's the politics of division. People get elected by catering to divisions.
GLENN: But wouldn't you say that Condoleezza Rice and Colin Powell have been wildly accepted, generally speaking?
COOPER: Absolutely, but they would never ask for your vote. I mean, I think there's plenty of people who are doing jobs who, you know, no one talks about their race or widely accepted but I think asking for a vote is a different thing.
GLENN: So what have you -- you've been working on this for a while. What have you uncovered? What have you found?
COOPER: You know, I don't know that there's anything all that revolutionary that we've uncovered. I mean, we're basically just trying to look at so far in this race how the issue of race has come up and played a role.
GLENN: Are you going to speculate at all? I mean, this is a prediction show. Are you going to -- I know yours isn't but it should be. Are you going to speculate at all on how nasty it will become. Right now you saw -- I mean, you saw the Democratic debate where all of a sudden they won't even turn to each other. Their body language. Did you see that on Monday night?
COOPER: Yeah, I did. I did.
GLENN: Their body language, they hate each other.
GLENN: They won't even turn to each other.
COOPER: You know, I think there's a lot of hatred frankly on both sides. I mean, from what I understand no one's a great fan on the Republican side of Mitt Romney of the other candidates.
GLENN: I've heard that, too. But hang on just a second. But those guys will admit. I mean, they'll just, they're tearing Mitt Romney apart. But when it comes to -- when it comes to Obama and Clinton and John Edwards, they won't even turn to each other but to save the party, they'll stop calling each other names. But as soon as -- if Clinton or Obama win, gender and race will play a huge role because they'll make it. They want that division between the conservatives and the liberals. They want it. They'll need it. They'll use it as fuel.
COOPER: I don't know about that. I mean, Barack Obama more than anyone has talked about and seems genuine about sort of overcoming divisions and I'm not sure it's in his interest to talk about race. Do you think so?
GLENN: I'm going to give Barack Obama the benefit of the doubt because he seems like a decent human being. I disagree with him almost -- I mean, you know, he was talking about giving animals rights the other day. So I don't think I could get further away from Barack Obama politically speaking, but I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt. But I don't trust political operatives on doing whatever they have to do. For instance, Huckabee. I mean, you know, now Huckabee is like, hey, gee, let's not be -- meanwhile his political operatives are, throw them under the bus. They will do whatever they have to do and take the gloves off and be as rude or as divisive as they have to be if they have think it would make the difference between the White House or not the White House.
COOPER: Yeah, politicians, that's, you know, that's what they do and certainly the people under them are probably more than willing to do it because they are not in the public eye. You know, I think that's what people look for in a leader is someone who's able to transcend that and someone who's able to at least convince us that they are not like that. I mean, those seem to be the people who ultimately we try to vote for.
GLENN: You know, I'm not going to ask you your political leanings or anything like that because I wouldn't do that to you. But have you seen somebody that you say, that guy I could vote for or that woman?
COOPER: You know, I don't -- I haven't made up my mind personally and I'm not -- you know, I wouldn't even say who I would vote for obviously if I had. But at this point I haven't made up my mind.
GLENN: Mitt Romney, really?
COOPER: I'm sorry?
GLENN: You'd go for Mitt Romney? That's what you're saying? That's -- well, you heard it here first, America.
COOPER: Wait, no, wait. Got to go --
GLENN: All right, that's Monday night with Anderson Cooper. Anderson, thank you so much, my friend. I appreciate it.
COOPER: My pleasure.