by Bill O'Reilly
GLENN: And Bill O'Reilly is joining us now. In case you don't know who Bill O'Reilly is, he does a cable show apparently at 8:00 p.m. on a network called the Fox News Channel. He is also the author of several number one books that are number one forever and ever and ever, and he is I mean, he will have to be destroyed. But that's something that we'll discuss after he leaves the phone. Bill O'Reilly, welcome to the program.
O'REILLY: Now, are you going to mention the book that's out today, Beck? Are you going to do that?
GLENN: Well, I was but now you are getting a little hostile. I don't know if I
O'REILLY: Well, I was. When? When were you?
GLENN: He is the author of Pinheads and Patriots: Where You Stand in the Age of Obama. Now, Bill, I'm judging a book by its cover. It's got a picture of you and Barack Obama on the cover.
GLENN: If I'm judging, if I'm trying to follow here first of all, it's a picture book. Second of all, one of you is the pinhead and one of you is the patriot.
O'REILLY: Well, wait a minute, Beck. I mean, when we go out on the Bold Fresh Tour, there are pictures of me and you. Is that the same thing?
GLENN: Well, no. That's called the Bold Fresh Tour, yes. One is bold, one is fresh.
O'REILLY: One is bold and one is fresh. One's a pinhead and one's a patriot.
GLENN: I would say you're implying that President Obama is a patriot.
O'REILLY: No, that's absolutely wrong. That's why you have to read the book.
GLENN: Really? Okay.
O'REILLY: Yeah, you've got to read the book to surmise. Then
GLENN: I'll know that
O'REILLY: Then you'll and, you know, on the Obama front
O'REILLY: He can be both a patriot and a pinhead depending on what the issue is.
O'REILLY: For example, today he's a patriot because he's telling school kids how to handle bullies, and he did it in a pretty good way. Yet, on the spending issue he's an unbelievable pinhead.
GLENN: Let me ask you this: Isn't he how would you classify him? Is it enough to say he's a pinhead when the way he's handling this mosque business? I mean, you've been following this mosque
O'REILLY: Oh, it's ridiculous. He's a major pinhead on the mosque, no doubt.
GLENN: Just a major pinhead?
O'REILLY: On the mosque issue absolutely. We broke the story last night, you know, in conjunction with the New York Post.
GLENN: I know.
O'REILLY: About this con, an assistant imam tied in with the 9/11 imam, the Ground Zero Imam Rauf, and his con's a 9/11 denier, a Truther. And now we find out that, you know, all of this benevolence that the Ground Zero mosque community center people pulling out was, you know, what about this guy? He's Rauf's close associate. He says Al Qaeda didn't attack us on 9/11.
So look. There's a lot of stuff in, but the interesting part of this book that you should read is that I compile
GLENN: Wait, wait. What makes you think I haven't read your book?
O'REILLY: Because you were with Sarah Palin hunting moose for the last few weeks, were you not?
GLENN: Okay, good. You are right, yes. Yes, I haven't read it. But it is on my list. I am going to read it. I'm starting to read it tonight.
O'REILLY: Because it's all facts. This book is no spin.
GLENN: Okay, wait a minute, wait a minute. It's all facts.
GLENN: So that would mean that there's no opinion in it.
O'REILLY: No, it's light on opinions.
GLENN: It's like an encyclopedia?
O'REILLY: Well, no, no, let me amend that. When I deal with Obama who is the centerpiece of the book.
O'REILLY: It's all facts. Fact, fact, facts, facts, facts.
GLENN: As opposed to
O'REILLY: And then you decide although I do call him a pinhead and a patriot on certain things, you know, when the facts are overwhelming. But there's a lot of it where the reader, I ask the reader: Okay, here are the facts; what do you say. But then there's a chapter on a whole bunch of people in history, presidents, movie stars, icons, people like Elvis, Marilyn Monroe.
GLENN: Tell me what you think
O'REILLY: I give you stuff you don't know about them and then I say, okay, make the call. And then I, of course, make it as well. So there is a lot
GLENN: Let me ask you this. Because I'm doing a special on George Soros.
O'REILLY: Pinhead. He's in the book.
GLENN: I know, I'm looking at it right
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GLENN: I mean, can we have just a conversation? Do you always have to be I mean, really
O'REILLY: Do I always what?
GLENN: You are always a little hostile.
O'REILLY: Hostile in the eye of the beholder, Beck.
GLENN: No, I think you are the only one
O'REILLY: I have to keep you in check now that you are the nation's guru. That's how I'm now describing you.
GLENN: Is that what it is? The nation's guru?
O'REILLY: You are the nation's guhu guru.
O'REILLY: Guhu guru ru?
O'REILLY: That's you.
GLENN: That's me.
O'REILLY: Who else can get 300,000 people to go to Washington?
GLENN: 300? I don't know. We got probably 500 or 600.
O'REILLY: Well, I think it was two million. Who else could have done that? Right?
O'REILLY: In August to go to D.C. but you?
GLENN: Right. Not a lot of people because
O'REILLY: The Maharishi couldn't have done it.
GLENN: So I'm not in the I'm not in the book?
O'REILLY: No, you are not in the book. Because, you know, you're my pal and I don't want to have to tell you the truth in the book.
GLENN: Well, I don't know if you're not see, I don't know if we are pals because like Chapter 8, loathing Obama.
O'REILLY: Right, loathing Obama.
GLENN: He's a socialist. He's a socialist. The Greek chorus cries.
O'REILLY: Oh, I get into that very deeply, Beck. You are going to love that chapter. I get into the socialistic thing.
GLENN: Wait, wait, you don't think he is.
O'REILLY: I just lay it out for you.
GLENN: You don't think he is a socialist?
O'REILLY: No, not as far as what a true socialist is.
GLENN: You are exactly right.
O'REILLY: I mean, you can make him socialist lite.
GLENN: He's more socialist lite?
O'REILLY: You know what he is? He is a socialist like gelato is ice cream. You know, it's not really ice cream but they call it ice cream.
GLENN: All right. So what would you say he is?
O'REILLY: I would say he is a far left guy committed to social justice and he's going to do whatever he can to impose it.
GLENN: Anticolonial kind of thing? Does that play a role? Did you read what's his name?
PAT: Dinesh D'Souza
GLENN: Dinesh D'Souza? The article in Forbes?
O'REILLY: Yeah, I have it right here in Forbes magazine.
GLENN: Have you read it?
O'REILLY: I've read part of it.
GLENN: You should read it. It is a really, really good case. I'd love to hear your opinion on it.
O'REILLY: Well, I will read it then. I mean, if you feel that strongly about it. I mean, I have it right in front of me. I was looking at it.
GLENN: You're reading I'm asking you to read, you know, a three page article in a magazine. I have to what is this? Holy cow, this is 240
O'REILLY: I'm the program that keeps America in check every day, you know?
GLENN: This is 242 pages. I tell you what, give me the best three pages of Pinheads and Patriots and then you read the three pages of and we'll call it even.
O'REILLY: Well, you read I want you to read the whole book of Pinheads and Patriots because you'll like the book.
GLENN: Then you have to read all of Forbes magazine.
O'REILLY: Because again this book is meticulously researched. The most fun part of the book is the chapter, the second to last chapter where I just go over all the people in history that you talk about
GLENN: Is Woodrow Wilson in there?
O'REILLY: No, he's too boring. But Lincoln, Washington, RFK, Eisenhower
GLENN: Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. Wait, wait, wait. Wait, wait, wait, you've got Janis Joplin in there.
O'REILLY: Far out, man. Far out.
GLENN: Who is talking about you make fun of me saying nobody talks about Woodrow Wilson, nobody even knows. Janis Joplin, where is the big Janis Joplin outcry right now? How is she affecting our lives?
O'REILLY: Jim Morrison, Jimi Hendrix, the whole Sixties thing, Beck, that you wouldn't understand because you're 27 years old.
GLENN: Well, I should, I should be
O'REILLY: There's a big message there for people on drugs. So that's why I put it in there and you know that. You are just being contentious this morning.
GLENN: No, that's you job. I'm the fresh part, you are the bold part.
O'REILLY: But the other part of the book that is really interesting is my interview with Obama in 2008.
GLENN: You are never going to inter
O'REILLY: And what he said to me and then what he's done.
GLENN: You are not implying
O'REILLY: It's all there.
GLENN: No, wait.
O'REILLY: This is what he said and this is what he's done.
GLENN: You are not implying that he's been less than honest, are you?
O'REILLY: Well, I mean, look. I'm not going to make that implication because I don't have to make it.
O'REILLY: The words are on the page.
O'REILLY: Here's what he said, here's what he's done.
GLENN: You realize that you are never going to do another interview with him again?
O'REILLY: No, it's a fair book. He should like the book. Obama should like the book.
GLENN: Have you sent him a copy?
O'REILLY: I haven't sent it to him. He can buy it himself. Are you kidding me?
GLENN: Well, you are richer than he is.
O'REILLY: So what.
GLENN: You wouldn't even notice the money that he's going to take from you.
O'REILLY: It's not about the money. It's about saving the country, Beck. I'm on the same plane as you. You are the guru.
O'REILLY: And I'm the hammer.
GLENN: I don't think a guru carries a hammer, does he?
O'REILLY: No, no, no. You are the kind of nice guy, and I'm the guy that's saying, hold it: When you've got to get the big hammer in, here I come.
GLENN: Hang on just a second. I would just like everybody who is now working and being paid for by George Soros to understand I'm not the guy. You've got to go after Bill O'Reilly. Because he thinks you're a pinhead.
O'REILLY: Soros is the worst. And I'm glad you, I'm glad you are doing a big special on him.
GLENN: You think because people have asked me, and I know you lay out the facts because I just, you know, I'm looking at the facts here. People ask me all the time, you know, really is Obama I mean, what is where is the real, where's the real source of problem in politics right now, and I think it is George Soros.
O'REILLY: Well, he's bad. I mean, people have got to really understand what this guy is doing.
GLENN: Why is he doing it, Bill?
O'REILLY: Because he wants a socialistic nation. I mean, George Soros, the guy who makes money all the time manipulating currencies and buying up dubious investments and all of that but, you know, for whatever reason Soros wants a socialistic world, one world where everybody has the same except George Soros who has much more. That's what he wants. And he's used his billions of dollars to create these things like Media Matters and moveon.org that just assassinate people with whom he disagrees, verbally, innuendo, gutter sniping. I mean, it's awful. It's awful. And George Soros has been to the White House a lot since Obama's been president. That disturbs me.
GLENN: No, that's a different George Soros. That's... he's air conditioning mechanic, friend of Barack Obama. You're thinking of a different George Soros.
O'REILLY: It is. Just, I thought he might have been the exterminator with all those bugs that you pointed out. I don't think he wants them around.
GLENN: All right. The name of the book is Pinheads and Patriots: Where You Stand in the Age of Obama, by Bill O'Reilly. Number one New York Times best selling author. And thank you, Bill, for releasing this right before I release mine because now I don't have a
O'REILLY: Look, you know, you ever heard of the book of the month club? That's you, all right? You have a book every month. Anyway, read the book, Beck, because I'm going to talk to you about it on The Factor on Friday.
GLENN: You got it. Thanks a lot. Bill O'Reilly, Pinheads and Patriots: Where You Stand in the Age of Obama. Thanks, Bill, talk to you tonight.