Give Us Liberty: A Tea Party Manifesto
by Dick Armey and Matt Kibbe
GLENN: I happened to see Matt Kibbe in the hallway. Matt Kibbe is with Freedom Works. He's a sponsor of this program. And before I went on the air, I saw him and I said, Matt, this is what I heard this weekend, that people are saying to me: I'm not sure I'm going to go out and vote, and I couldn't believe it. I thought I was being punked. And I said, is that the feeling that you're getting at all from around the country? And Matt, tell me what you said about West Virginia and I think it was Ohio. Tell me what you're's sensing in West Virginia?
KIBBE: Well, I was in West Virginia on Friday night and there is a level of energy and excitement there that is shaking up both the Republican and the Democratic establishment in that state. There's a Senate candidate, John Raese, who has openly, enthusiastically embraced the Tea Party agenda of fiscal responsibility of allowing coal miners to actually produce energy for America, and there's an understanding in a state where for a hundred years, for generations Democrats have controlled everything. But there's an understanding that this administration, that this majority leader, that this House speaker all want to destroy West Virginia. And the Republicans aren't necessarily comfortable with the Tea Party coming in and the Democrats obviously aren't, but there's this energy. There's this unity around the ideas.
GLENN: Is he a third party candidate or is he he's a Republican candidate?
KIBBE: He's a Republican.
GLENN: And everybody in the Republicans, this is another case where the Republicans really don't want this guy?
KIBBE: Well, they've had to come they've had to come to terms with the fact, and there was a grudging respect for John, there was a grudging respect for the Tea Party folks. I spoke at the Republican dinner on Friday night, and everybody now understands that to the extent the Republican Party matters in West Virginia, it's because the Tea Party has taken it over, the Tea Party is the energy, and the Tea Party is for true fiscal conservatism.
GLENN: So Matt, what are you doing, what are you doing because I'm working on something and maybe we should work together on this. I am working almost for like an abuse hotline, you know, where if you're being abused by a spouse, you can call. I think that there needs to be an abuse hotline for the members of congress that are going in. Because they're going to be co everything's going to come down on them like a bag of bricks as soon as they walk through that door. The Republicans who are the progressive Republicans are going to say, "Well, now look, now look, son, here's how it really works around here. You don't know. Let me show you the ropes," and they're going to get some of them are going to be duped by it and others are going to feel very, very alone.
KIBBE: Yeah, yeah.
GLENN: Are you working on anything for after the election like that to be able to make sure that these candidates who go in are not co opted?
KIBBE: We are. And, you know, there's two things I think that make the promise of what these folks are do together so compelling is that they should act as a block. You have this massive Freshman Republican class that will come in. Maybe it's 50, 60, 70 in the House, maybe it's eight, ten, twelve in the Senate, most of whom
GLENN: You really give me the real numbers of what you think.
KIBBE: Oh, I think if I were to bet my money today, I would say 65 in the House and nine or ten in the Senate. And obviously the nine or the ten matters a lot.
PAT: Wow. It's a tie at ten.
KIBBE: Yeah. And I can get to twelve, and I do think that there's this
GLENN: Who are the most important, who are the most important, the strongest candidates you think nationwide, the ones that you're like, got to have this guy? Got to have this guy? This guy could turn things, this guy could be a real influencer in the rest of the House or Senate?
KIBBE: Well, I think number one right now is John Raese in West Virginia. Because that is the Byrd seat. This is a lot like taking Ted Kennedy's seat and winning it with Scott Brown. So if I think if we win the Robert Byrd seat in West Virginia, that's a big election. Obviously Marco Rubio is a compelling candidate that I would argue might in fact, he will come into the Senate with more experience than Barack Obama had as a leader.
GLENN: He's fought a really good race.
GLENN: And been a tough race.
GLENN: For a long time. It doesn't seem like Marco Rubio I mean, look what it takes to run. This is ridiculous. This is ridiculous that it takes this much energy and time and money. It's ridiculous. Who has that?
GLENN: Who could put their life on hold for two years to run for a stupid seat that you should, you know, you shouldn't hold for more than one term, maybe two? I mean, that's who are these people that can do that? I couldn't. Could you do that? Just leave your whole life, turn it upside down for two years? Who could do it?
Tell me what you know about Whitman. We were talking about Meg Whitman here a minute ago, that, is she I mean, she's not Jerry Brown.
GLENN: So that's the first thing. Because Jerry Brown I mean, I can't believe that we had I talked to somebody yesterday at church and they happened to be up in the New England area and she came up to me and she said, oh, my gosh, I can't believe that you go to church here. And I said, yes, hi, how are you? And she said, I am a organizer for colleges. And I said, ooh, that's got to hurt. And she said, it's been actually really good, except for New England. She said, I was approached in New England by a group of students who said, we're communists, we're proud of it, and what are you going to do about it? She said New England is almost lost. She said it's not for Republicans or for the Tea Party. She said it's almost, the colleges are just going so far left that it's remarkable. Have you noticed, what are you seeing on the ground on youth? Is Freedom Works involved in that?
KIBBE: Oh, absolutely. And I you know, one of the misnomers of the Tea Party community is that it's all seniors. I see kids that are 18, 19, 20 who have found a community finally. They don't find it on their campus, they don't find it at their school, but they've found it in the Tea Party where there are people like them that believe in freedom, they believe in the Constitution, and I think there's a rebirth going on amongst our youth as well as all across the age spectrum. So I think there's something compelling going on there, and it's like all this stuff. These folks need a home. They need to know that they're not alone in this fight. And so in a sense when you go to a Tea Party rally, it's a support group.
GLENN: Yeah. Really is. Everybody's like, hi, my name is Glenn. I used to believe in the political system. Keep working the program, Glenn. Keep working the program. (Applause). All right, Matt, thanks a lot.
KIBBE: Thanks a lot.
GLENN: Keep up the good work. Matt Kibbe from Freedom Works.