GLENN: All right. Tom, I was just in Colorado last night, and I heard the happiest news ever. There are people that actually believe, and I am so happily in this camp, that you could be the next governor of Colorado. What a message that would send to America. Oh, my gosh.
TANCREDO: It really is incredible. We have come out, I think about 30, over 30 points in a little over three and a half weeks.
TANCREDO: That's got to be some sort of record. I know it's never happened in any race I've ever seen before. And it's the result of a lot of things coming together, of course, but it is a really exciting time. I'm not kidding you. The enthusiasm, my gosh, everywhere I go, the crowds just keep getting bigger and bigger.
GLENN: The enthusiasm last night, I was giving a speech last night and the enthusiasm when I said your name on stage, I said I think it was the first thing I came out, I said Colorado, Tom Tancredo? And they went crazy. And I said, oh, it will drive the rest of the country and the left out of their mind! I'll move here if you'll do that! Help, how can I help?
TANCREDO: That would cinch the deal. That would cinch the deal.
GLENN: Oh, my gosh. I mean, you know, I would feel so comfortable with state rights and that the I'm worried about many of these governors who don't really get it, and I'm not sure even if they do get it that they will stand in the end.
TANCREDO: Do anything about it.
TANCREDO: I keep saying that, you know, I said the first thing I'll do, but I said that there are so many first things that you have to do that I'm now down to saying, you know, one of the first things I will do.
TANCREDO: Is to pick up the phone and call Chris Christie and then, you know, put him on hold and try to use my, what little talent I have technologically speaking to connect us to Jan Brewer and do a little conference call and say and maybe there will be one or two other governors at that time that would have the guts to join me, but what I'm asking them to do, what I will ask them to do is to join me in launching a Tenth Amendment revolution in this country.
GLENN: Oh, my gosh. You know who you really
TANCREDO: And if we do this together, you know I mean, alone probably you don't get far. But if you can get a few governors together to really band together and make a line in the sand and say, you know, you're not coming any farther, federal government. This is the State of Colorado, Arizona, New Jersey, there is nothing more that we need from you or want from you. And as a matter of fact, you can take your stimulus money and go pound sand with it.
GLENN: Oh, I love this. I love this. I will tell you, Tom, I mean this sincerely, I am looking for a place to relocate at least myself, and my company will remain here in New York, but I'm re Jeffy, you can come well, no, you can't come with, but you can relocate. I'll relocate you... well, you should be relocated to prison is where you should be relocated, but
GLENN: I mean, I'm telling you it is going to be Texas and the mountain west that save this country. It really will be.
TANCREDO: Well, let me tell you about the values system at least as it is viewed by the gentleman I am running against, Mayor Hickenlooper he said I don't know if you guys have seen this or not. He said and they came up on YouTube just a couple of days ago. But he goes he's talking to a lady at something called well, gosh. I'll trying to think of the name of the institute now. Shepherd. Because it was created as a result of the young man that was killed in Wyoming because he was gay, and you remember that a while back? Matthew shepherd?
TANCREDO: Well, they created this entity, this out here in Colorado, Matthew Shepard Foundation or something like that for gay and transvestite and transgendered and he was talking to a lady who was the head of that organization and he said, we have that same kind of backward thinking here in rural Colorado, Wyoming, Montana. You know how these people are.
GLENN: Oh, my gosh.
PAT: Oh, my gosh.
TANCREDO: Yes, yes. Yes, he is and it's in the context of this murder, a horrible crime. He's suggesting that the people in Colorado and in the West Virginia values system, of course, that leads to this kind of thing and that we're all just kind of waiting to catch the next young gay guy out there and beat him to death or torture him or something like that.
GLENN: You know, Tom
TANCREDO: He said that on this clip, it's just absolutely amazing. The backward thinking, backward thinking.
GLENN: You almost we're downloading apparently this clip now. When you have that clip, let me play it here. You know, Tom, what people don't understand is the left has such contempt for most of America. They have contempt. When the president yesterday said or the day before yesterday said that to the Hispanic audience that he was speaking to, he said, and you have to know, you have to get out so we can punish our enemies. Our enemies. We're not talking about we have disagreements of opinion. We're talking about our enemies. And they have such contempt. They are quite frightening.
TANCREDO: Don't you remember that he said Obama really said almost something very similar to what Hickenlooper said when he said, you know, when it gets tough out there, the rough economy, these people start to grab for their guns and Bible. They hang onto their guns and Bible, you know? Remember that?
GLENN: Yeah, the bitter white people that hang onto their God and their guns, yeah.
TANCREDO: Yeah. And then just another reflection of what you're saying, it just hit me while you were talking about their attitude. Do you remember the scene I've got pictures. People sent me some pictures of the White House Christmas tree in this last this last Christmas.
GLENN: With Mao.
TANCREDO: Remember first of all that Mrs. Obama was trying to stop any sort of anything that would be a reference to Christianity being part of the Christmas decorations in the White House. And they've finally they decided, well, that would cause too much of an uproar. So they put a few out. But on the Christmas tree, the decorations, the Christmas, the balls that hang on the tree.
GLENN: Sure, yeah.
TANCREDO: One of them was Mao Zedong and the other was a lady a person, I don't know what you call, but it's a famous transvestite named Heada Lettuce. Those were the Christmas decorations in the White House. What does this tell you about their attitude?
GLENN: I don't know. I want to know more about Head of Lettuce.
TANCREDO: Heada Lettuce.
GLENN: I never heard of Heada Lettuce.
TANCREDA: I haven't heard she's a very famous transvestite.
GLENN: Okay, I'll take your word for that.
TANCREDO: You've got to keep up on your transvestite
GLENN: I know, I think we should have a radio show, we should name somebody Heada Lettuce. I think that's one of the greatest names of all time, Heada Lettuce. I like that. I like her, him or whatever. I don't know anything about him.
TANCREDO: I don't know exactly how to genderize it but, yeah, Heada Lettuce.
GLENN: I like that. So Tom, what is it that you are besides the Tenth Amendment, what is it that is connecting in Colorado? What is the thing?
TANCREDO: Well, there is this little issue. It is called illegal immigration.
GLENN: Yeah. You've been on the forefront of that.
TANCREDO: Mayor Hickenlooper runs a sanctuary city where among the many horrible crimes that have been committed by illegal aliens who then go out and break other crimes but are never turned over to ICE is one that has just honestly captured the imagination and the hearts of the people in this state. A while back a young man this just epitomizes, okay? What I'm going to describe to you is one event but it is the epitome of a sanctuary city and the one the mayor runs.
A little boy by the name of Marten Kudlis and his mother were at a Baskin and Robbins ice cream store in Aurora, Colorado. She tells him to go sit down, be a good boy, and that she will get him his ice cream cone. He sits down, she goes over to the counter. A guy, an illegal alien crashes into a pickup truck that was pulling into the Baskin and Robbins place, kills the two people in that truck, then careens into the front of the Baskin and Robbins store and kills this little boy, Marten Kudlis. By the way, the Kudlis family, they're legal immigrants here in the United States and in Colorado. They now, it's a horrible story. It's a terrible, terrible tragedy, but what makes it even more terrible is that the guy who did it had been arrested sixteen times.
GLENN: Oh, my gosh.
TANCREDO: In and around the City of Denver and the surrounding area. Never once, never once turned over to ICE as an illegal alien, never once. So that is the kind of thing that people just go crazy about, as well they should. This man, Mr. Kudlis, asked he said to me, what can I do? You know, he wanted to make it he's got a commercial up for me. It's just, every time I see it, it breaks my heart. But that certainly is another part of this. Because Hickenlooper would turn the state into a sanctuary state, and I keep saying I'm going to try my best to make Colorado a business friendly and an illegal immigrant unfriendly place to be, and I certainly will do that.
GLENN: I can't even imagine, I can't even imagine
GLENN: a week from today if you win, I cannot even imagine the message that that would send. This, to me, this race is one of the biggest, most important messages to be sent. Because Colorado is a state that was, was red. They flipped it blue. Very blue. And they have organized this state six ways to Sunday.
TANCREDO: Oh, man, yeah.
GLENN: This is the state, Colorado is the state that was the prototype for all other organizations
TANCREDO: That's right.
GLENN: For all other states.
TANCREDO: That's right.
GLENN: This is the key state for them. They changed they flipped Colorado and said we can flip the whole country because look what we've done to Colorado. And for it to go for not a Republican but for Tom Tancredo running as an independent? That's incredible. Incredible.
TANCREDO: Republicans are down to 5% in the most recent polls.
GLENN: Let me ask you this. Why didn't the Republicans I mean, you were a Republican. You weren't a popular Republican in the Republican Party, but
GLENN: You would think at some point they would say, let's have the state go to Tom.
TANCREDO: Well, believe me they are trying everything they can. I mean, the head of the Republican Party here calls their candidate the worst candidate that's been by the Republican Party.
GLENN: Oh, okay, good.
TANCREDO: They are trying
GLENN: I'm glad to hear that.
TANCREDO: He won't get out. He is mad at me, he's mad at the party.
GLENN: No, that's just fine.
TANCREDO: He is just an angry guy. So he is sticking in there. And that could be the problem for us.
GLENN: I'm glad to actually hear that.
TANCREDO: We are in striking distance, we are in the margin of error in almost every poll that's out there. We are within 2 or 3 points and the momentum is on our side. It just keeps getting bigger and bigger.
GLENN: Oh, my gosh.
TANCREDO: There is I'm not kidding you, buddy. We could get this done. It's amazing.
GLENN: That's great. Tom Tancredo, thank you very much. Best of luck to you.
GLENN: You got it. Thanks a lot, Tom. Tom Tancredo from Colorado.