Glenn's radio interview with Jon Huntsman



GLENN: From Radio City in Midtown Manhattan, this is the third most listened to show in all of America. I wanted to take a special hour here and talk to you about something that is very, very personal to me and something that I think you are going to get an awful lot out of. I know I have. I want to tell you that I changed on 9/11 and then I changed about two, three months after that. Do you remember all of us standing in line to donate blood after 9/11? Do you remember how many times we would drive by a firefighter and he would be standing out in the middle of the street and he would have a boot out there and you'd put that money in the boot? Do you remember watching even Hollywood ask for funds and you wrote the check and you wrote the check to the point that it hurt. And then do you remember finding out all the scandal of all of the money from 9/11 and what happened to it and how they were buying phone systems, and I told you on the air right after that, I said I will never lend my name to an organization for fundraising ever again, won't do it, because I can't trust any of them. I said I am going to personally going to get involved, I will personally donate, but it's up to you to personally donate and you do the homework yourself. The only exception I have made on that is the USO and it's actually the USO of metropolitan New York. It's not even the USO for the entire United States and the reason why I have raised money for the USO is because I personally am involved at the USO of metropolitan New York. I have personally gone and made care packages for our troops with our family at the USO of metropolitan, New York. That's the only exception I've made, on the air, until today. And I'm going to make this exception because I met a man who I think is changing my life. I met a man who I had no idea people like this even existed. Before I introduce you to him, I want to tell you how we met.

I was out West and a friend said, "Jon Huntsman would like to meet you." And I said, isn't he like the billionaire that invented the egg carton?" And they said, yeah. And I said, I'm cool to meet billionaires, okay. Said, "He wants to take you to lunch." Said all right. So I arrive and I'm driving up the mountain and I'm seeing a giant hospital up on top of the mountain and I drive up. They said, well, here we are. I said, hmmm, Jon Huntsman knows how to treat a man right. We're eating at the hospital. It's the Huntsman Cancer Center.

We went in and Mr. Huntsman was waiting there at the front door and we walked out, kindest guy you've ever met. Walked out and he shook my hand and I said, hello, Mr. Huntsman. He said, "Glenn, I want to take you out for lunch here and I want to show you the cancer center." And I said, yes, sir, I'd love to see it. He opened up the door and I was one step in to this hospital and I said, my gosh, I have never seen a hospital. He turned around and he looked me in the eye and he said, "It's not a hospital." He said, "I'm going to cure cancer and then I'm turning this into a Ritz Carlton." And I laughed. He said, "I'm serious. We're going to cure cancer here." And you know what? I believe him.

We went upstairs and we had lunch. I had, I think, prime rib in the cafeteria. I'm not kidding you. It was the best prime rib I've ever had. Why? Because Jon Huntsman has had cancer before and in his treatment at 3:00 in the morning, he would be starving and they couldn't get anything and then when the kitchen would open, it stunk. The food was bad. So when he opened up his cancer center, he decided he wanted to have five star dining for everybody. The patients can order whatever they want, whenever they want it and it's unbelievable.

Treating the patient with respect, something I learned firsthand recently, how important it is, but it goes so much further than just the hospital, and if you want to understand the hospital, you have to understand the man behind it. So many people tell me you can't be a good businessman anymore and just have ethics. You've got to shave the edges. You've got to cut the corners. No, you don't. Proof positive, Mr. Jon Huntsman. Welcome to the program, sir.

HUNTSMAN: Thank you, Glenn, and thank you for that very remarkable and thoughtful introduction.

GLENN: Jon, I mean this sincerely, and Neil Cavuto and I are becoming good friends and we have spent a lot of time just talking back and forth about you. You are truly one of the most remarkable men I think on planet Earth. You are a billionaire, but you started life living in a house that literally had cardboard walls, right?

HUNTSMAN: Well, that's right, Glenn, but first of all, thanks to you and Neil for those comments. I would disagree with you on any person who's out of the ordinary. Sometimes extraordinary things happen to people and sometimes blessings befall certain people, but you've been very gracious and I accept that with a deep sense of humility.

GLENN: Jon, see, this is what I love about you but that's -- I mean, some people make it happen and they change the world. You -- start at the beginning. You grew up poor. You picked potatoes for a while and you lived in a home that had two families living in it divided by a wall that was made out of cardboard.

HUNTSMAN: Well, that's close, Glenn. I was born in rural Idaho in a place, my father was a rural schoolteacher in southern Idaho and we lived in a very, very small home, two-room home without inside plumbing. And then my father moved some years later to receive a college education, a graduate education, and we moved into student housing for three years, very difficult years for a young man, and I have two brothers. So three of us were crammed in there with Mother and Dad. And that's where we actually lived in a converted World War II Quonset hut where we had cardboard walls. We lived there for three years as we paid all of our money to help Father get through his college education and that made my -- Glenn, that made the home where I was born with outside plumbing look like a mansion.

GLENN: Then you went on and you went back picking potatoes. You worked for a guy where you learned a lot of lessons because he wasn't necessarily a good guy and then at what point did the egg container thing happen?

HUNTSMAN: Well, after I -- I had the wonderful opportunity for a very, very thoughtful Jewish family in San Francisco, called about different high schools in California and the West and they sent me back to the Wharton School of Finance. I had never heard of the Wharton School. I didn't know it was the number one business school in America and they sent me there. Then afterwards with that education and an Idaho background, a lot of farming and potato picking and good common sense that farm boys sometimes have, I landed a job in the egg business and in the egg business it was there that we developed the first plastic egg carton and I left that after about a decade and went into my own business to develop the first plastic plates, bowls, dishes, take-out food containers, a multiplicity of products including the first Big Mac container and many other products that are out on the market. And this is about 1973 or '74, Glenn. But I have to tell you and your wonderful audience that, you know, I had men and women surrounding me who were smarter than I was and who really get the credit for many of these early innovations and productions that have changed literally the world in which we live.

GLENN: Okay. You know, John, quite honestly I thought it was cool that, oh, wow, this is the guy who, you know, his company made the first plastic fork and spoon. How cool is that. But it didn't, it didn't impress me. What has impressed me, sir, is what you have done with that money. You are an extreme capitalist who has gone literally from rags to riches and yet you do your business on a handshake. You look a man in the eye and a deal is a deal. And if you don't mind telling the story of how you sold your business to somebody who got a bunch of attorneys involved, all the parameters changed and he came back to you and said, "Okay, I know your business is worth an awful lot more; what is it going to cost me today." Can you tell that story?

HUNTSMAN: Well, thank you, Glenn. I will. I again mention it with a certain moderate reservation because it sounds a bit self-serving but life is interesting, Glenn, first of all. Life is not fair, but we must be fair in our dealings and that's the one thing I think that transcends everything we do in life is that we constantly bump against situations that are unfair and people who are unfair and corporations who are unfair and government institutions and yet -- and this is a perfect example and it didn't even occur to me, but I mean, you are raised as kids with an opportunity as young men and women, boys and girls to live in the sandboxes of our life, the playgrounds of our life. It allows us to learn manners and honesty and integrity and we treat each other well. When we're all kids, we don't know some are black, some are white, some are brown and some are Muslim and some are Christian and some are Jewish. Nobody cares because we all treat people fairly. As life came along, my business, when you are starting from nothing, you are always in a financial spiral downward and you move up and you give part of that away or you share it or you expand it. You are moving down. So you always have to protect the down side of your business. That's a common thing.


Jon and Karen Huntsman

So I sold 40% of my business to a man by the name of Emerson camp and he was chairman and CEO of Great Lakes Chemical, one of the great chemical companies in America, 1986. Emerson said I'll pay you $54 million. I've had this business appraised and the 40% I'm buying, I'll pay you $54 million. I said, Emerson, that's fine. I was excited to move on, I needed the money, I needed it for payroll and for expansion and for the other purposes of a growing business, and he took quite a bit of time to get around to having his attorneys look into the deal and to give me the papers, the contract and all the other negotiating instruments that we had to have in a deal that size.

Finally by the time he did it, six months had elapsed and in the meantime our markets had turned around. The chemical markets are similar to most other commodity products, whether it be metals of different kinds or gold or silver or oil, and we know what the oil markets have done. Well, the same thing happened back in '86 in the chemical market. The prices of chemicals had gone up dramatically. Margins had improved, profits had improved. And after six months when he came back with a contract, that price was worth not $54 million but for 40% of the business it was then appraised at $225 million, a rather handsome difference. And so he came back with his lawyers and said, Jon, I know I've delayed, I know I've waited, I know I haven't moved fast, but the business is now worth approximately $200 million. And I said, no, Emerson, it's worth about $225 million if we take our latest appraisal.

Anyway, to make a long story short, he said, let's split the difference. I'll pay you $125 million for your 40% of the business. And I said, Emerson, that's not -- I will not accept that. I shook your hand at $54 million six months ago and that's exactly what you're going to pay for this business. And he was arguing that he should pay more and I was arguing that a handshake's a contract. I don't care about the lawyers. When you shake a man's hand, it's a contract. It's your bond. It tells a little bit about your integrity. And even though I may have lost money on that deal, Glenn, I didn't lose money in life. It was an important aspect for my children, my grandchildren and our corporation to see that when you make a deal, a deal is consummated with the shaking of another man's hand. And forgive me again for sounding self-serving, Glenn, but thank you for asking.

GLENN: Jon, I've got to tell you I read that story about you and it brought me to tears when I heard that story because there's more to that story than you will ever tell. As I read it, you had said at the end, "But in the end it all turns around and it's all worth it in the end." And I expected that you as a businessman would say, "Because in the end what I did caused this other business deal to happen and I made $350 million." But instead that's not what had meaning to you. You said that in the end after this gentleman passed away, he asked you to speak at his funeral and that's what made losing all that money worth it to you. How?

HUNTSMAN: Well, Glenn, he died a few years after that event and his funeral was held in Indianapolis and I was asked along with the governor of Indiana, Evan Bayh at the time, he is now a U.S. senator, the two of us were asked to speak at his funeral and I thought, you know, this man must have been remarkably moved by the fact that he had dealt with someone who had been honest with him in his dealings to the point where when he passed away, he had put in his last testament, his papers who he wanted to speak at his funeral. We weren't particularly close. There was no great reason why I should speak above those who had been his friends for life. But that had meant so much to him, and I looked around that, the group who had come to hear his eulogy, Glenn, and there were all of the leaders of the chemistry, my peers, the ones I would be doing business. And when I was introduced at that funeral, they said the deceased man, and they told a little bit about him, had great respect for Mr. Huntsman because of their business transaction.

Well, that meant a great deal to me that he would ask me to speak, Glenn, and again I'm pinching myself here a little bit because I've heard so many sugar type stories about people who are self-serving, and I don't want to come across that way, Glenn.

GLENN: Well, I know, Jon, and the reason why I know you are so -- you are. You are an amazing guy. You are so uncomfortable talking about yourself and the reason why I am asking you to do that, or I have asked you to do that, to share that story is because I need my listeners to understand why I can then come to them and say I want you to, if you are looking to give money to a charity, I want you to give money to this charity. I want you to help Jon Huntsman and all of the amazing people at the Huntsman Cancer Institute cure cancer and help these patients. The reason why I wanted you to tell that story is because in today's world no one knows who they can trust. No one wants to take their hard earned money, especially when, you know, America's beginning to struggle, and give it to somebody and not know that it's going to the right place. It's not going to limousines, it's not going to overhead. It's actually going to help people. And I needed -- my word is my bond to my listeners, Jon, and I needed them to know why I know the guy who runs this institute, his word is his bond. I can't ask anybody to ever give a dime to anything unless I know that, and they needed to hear that from you. And I'm sorry to make you uncomfortable but it's the integrity that you have that permeates that hospital that I have never, ever seen in another charity and I am relieved to finally find it, Jon.

HUNTSMAN: Well, thank you so much, Glenn, and to your listeners. I'm very, very appreciative and grateful, and it is a remarkable place and it is expanding and growing and as you know, Glenn, we're doing great works for cancer and we could get into that if you'd like in any way, shape or form, but it's a terrible, terrible disease and it affects one out of two men and one out of three women in their life. So half of your listeners out there in that great world in which we live will someday be impacted by this disease and all of their families will in one way or another.

GLENN: I need to take a break and when we come back, I want you to go to HuntsmanCancer.org and see the facility and read all about it. But when you come back, I just had the worst experience of my life in a hospital. I want to show you the exact opposite, the way a hospital should be, next.

On "GlennTV," host Glenn Beck argued that the World Health Organization has been knowingly helping the Communist Party of China spread disinformation about the coronavirus.

Why?

Well, it turns out that the current WHO director-general is a politician from Ethiopia (the very first director without a medical degree) — and apparently Ethiopia owes China a lot.

"This outbreak has revealed the WHO as nothing more than a Chinese Communist front," Glenn said. "China knew early on just how dangerous the coronavirus was, how it spread, how fast it spread, and the fatality rate, but were more concerned with getting the blame than protecting lives. So, they had their front man, the World Health Organization, tell the world there was nothing to worry about."

On Jan. 14, the WHO repeated the Chinese Communist Party's claim that the coronavirus does not travel human to human.

On Feb. 3, WHO Director-general Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus announced there was no need for measures that "unnecessarily interfere with international travel and trade" to combat the spread of COVID-19.

On the exact same date, a spokesperson of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the People's Republic of China released a statement criticizing President Trump for restricting travel to China.

"[S]ome countries, the US in particular, have inappropriately overreacted, which certainly runs counter to WHO advice. The US government hasn't provided any substantive assistance to us, but it was the first to evacuate personnel from its consulate in Wuhan, the first to suggest partial withdrawal of its embassy staff, and the first to impose a travel ban on Chinese travelers. What it has done could only create and spread fear, which is a very bad example. Even American media and experts doubted the government's decision, saying that the US government's restrictions on China are precisely what the WHO rejects, that the US is turning from overconfidence to fear and overreaction, and that banning the entry of visitors who traveled to China in the past 14 days is suspected to be violating civil rights instead of reducing risks of virus spreading," spokesperson Hua Chunying said.

Hua went on to say, "As the WHO Director-General noted, China is setting a new standard for outbreak response."

Indeed, Tedros has been very consistent in his praise for China's response to the coronavirus outbreak.

"The steps China has taken to contain the outbreak at its source appear to have bought to the world time," he told the Munich Security Conference in mid-February.

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On Monday's radio program, Glenn discussed claims that the Obama administration depleted and never replenished the federal supply of emergency gear, including N95 respirator masks, during the H1N1 flu, or swine flu epidemic, in 2009.

Last month, Bloomberg News, and the Los Angeles Times, among others, reported that the Obama administration used, and failed to restock supplies of N95 respirator masks, and ignored recommendations that the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services should replenish the "Strategic National Stockpile." Read more on this here.

USA Today followed up with a fact-check article titled, "Fact check: Did the Obama administration deplete the federal stockpile of N95 masks?"

On Sunday, 2020 Democratic candidate Joe Biden accused President Donald Trump of "failing to prepare our nation to respond."

President Trump fired back, "You and Obama depleted America's stockpile of N95 masks after the H1N1 swine flu pandemic. You were advised to replenish the national stockpile but FAILED. STOP LYING AND EXPLAIN!"

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Glenn gives the latest coronavirus numbers, updating YOU on everything needed to know as Americans and officials monitor China's new COVID-19 virus:

Daily Stats as of 5:30 AM CT (from John's Hopkins)

  • Total Confirmed Cases Worldwide: 1,359,010 (up from 1,284,805 yesterday)
  • Total Confirmed Deaths Worldwide: 75,906 (up from 70,906 yesterday)
  • Total Confirmed Recovered Worldwide: 293,454 (up from 271,782 yesterday)
  • Still Just 5% of Active Cases are considered serious (requiring hospitalization) Steady from 5% yesterday, and down from the 19% high back in February
  • Note that about 11% of US Confirmed Cases require Hospitalization, roughly on par with Italy at 12% requiring hospitalization but lower than Spain, where 17% of patients require hospitalization.
  • US has 367,650 Confirmed Cases and 10,943 Deaths, up from 336,851 cases and 9,620 cases yesterday
  • The US currently has 336,897 Active Cases of COVID-19, with about 1.2% of the US Population tested
Motor City Nightmare: More Than 700 Employees in One Detroit Hospital System Test Positive https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/491484-more-than-700-employees-at-one-detroit-hospital-system-test-positive-for
  • Hundreds of staff at a Detroit-area hospital system have tested positive for coronavirus.
  • Dr. Adnan Munkarah of the Henry Ford Hospital Campus confirmed 731 cases of the coronavirus among employees at the hospital, accounting for 2 percent of the hospital system's 31,600 employees.
  • As many as 1,500 at another hospital in the state have reported symptoms similar to coronavirus, though those numbers are not confirmed cases.
  • "If we are to test the whole population, you are going to see large numbers of people who are testing positive...Testing positive is just a measure of how contagious this virus is." said the hospital director.
  • "Our team members are our greatest asset and their health and safety is a top priority as we continue to respond to this pandemic," Munkarah said in a separate statement Monday evening confirmed the total number of positive test results.
  • "We know we are not immune to potential exposure and we remain grateful for the courage and dedication of our entire team," he added.
  • Detroit, Michigan's largest city, has seen a surge of coronavirus cases in recent days while the state itself has seen just over 17,000 cases of the virus – the third-largest total of any state in the U.S. More than 5,000 of those cases were reported in Detroit, where hundreds have died.
The Invisible...Invisible Enemy: Can COVID-19 Hide In Cells? https://www.the-sun.com/news/645016/fears-coronavirus-hide-cells-reactivate-recovered-patients-test-positive/
  • COVID-19 may be able to remain in the body and "reactivate" later after 51 recovered patients tested positive again.
  • The patients, from the city of Daegu, South Korea, had all spent time in quarantine while recovering from the disease but were diagnosed again within days of being released.
  • The center said it did not believe the patients had been reinfected, but that the virus had remained at undetectable levels in their cells and later "reactivated".
  • The claim runs contrary to the bulk of current evidence about how the virus works.
  • Investigators said the most likely explanation was that the clearance samples for the patients were false negatives, a common issue with nasal swab tests.
  • "Still, we remain vigilant and open to the possibility that the virus can remain dormant for some time," Dr Leong Kwok, Director of Viral Epidemiology at the National Health Institute in Seoul said.
Maybe Don't Go To the Grocery Store After All https://www.foxnews.com/health/los-angeles-braces-itself-more-coronavirus-deaths-warns-residents-not-go-shopping-warns-residents-not-to-go-out-shopping
  • With coronavirus related deaths spiking in Los Angeles County and "a critical week" ahead, health officials advised residents on Monday to stay at home and avoid shopping to limit the spread of the virus.
  • "If you have enough supplies in your home, this would be the week to skip shopping altogether," said public health department Director Barbara Ferrer, according to the Los Angeles Times.
  • Officials confirmed 420 new coronavirus cases in the county and 15 deaths on Monday.
  • Over 6,360 cases and 147 deaths have been reported since the outbreak started, per data from Johns Hopkins.
Mexico's Slow Response May Cause Problems for Texas https://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/article/mexico-slow-response-coronavirus-texas-us-15181201.php
  • As recently as March 15, some 40,000 concert goers crowded into the Foro Sor venue for the popular Vive Latino music festival.
  • Tourists from Europe and the United States were able to enter the country without any restrictions until late last week.
  • Restaurants, airports, subways and grocery stores remain open in Mexico City, though churches and large markets have closed.
  • The rapid spread of the COVID-19, however, has begun to increase the urgency of the government's response. Mexican health authorities reported on March 16 that the country had 82 cases of COVID-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus. Two weeks later, the number swelled to nearly 2439, including 125 deaths.
  • Deputy Health Minister Hugo Lopez Gatell, who two weeks ago dismissed US social distancing restrictions as "an extreme tactic" and "irresponsible" is now urging citizens to "stay at home, stay at home, stay at home."
  • "If you have food at home, stay home. There is no reason good enough to go out, period," he said.
  • Mexico is just one of many nations that reacted slowly to the coronavirus pandemic, in large part because government leaders failed to understand how contagious the virus is.
  • President Lopez Obrador spent the first half of March dismissing the gravity of the virus, encouraging Mexicans to frequent restaurants and posting videos of himself in crowds, kissing babies.
  • He said Mexico's spirituality would protect the country against the virus and made a public display of pulling out two religious amulets that he said would be his shield.
  • Mexico shares over 1,200 miles of border with the United States.
Hong Kong Closed to All Foreign Travelers, Indefinitely https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/article/3078633/coronavirus-five-hong-kong-residents-flown-back
  • The city extends its ban on arrivals after most cases over past two weeks have come from overseas.
  • Only six of 24 newly infected yesterday are local transmissions, but all are linked to entertainment venues already closed.
  • All entertainment venues are closed until further notice.
  • Hong Kong recently issued a new state of emergency order revoking travel into the country from any outside nation, including China.
  • The order will prevent Hong Kong from 'opening up' it's economy through at least early May
Drug You Can't Pronounce May Be Saving Lives https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2020/04/06/democrat-karen-whitsett-coronavirus-hydroxychloroquine-trump/2955430001/, https://abc7.com/coronavirus-drug-covid-19-malaria-hydroxychloroquine/6079864/
  • A Democratic state representative from Detroit is crediting hydroxychloroquine — and Republican President Donald Trump who touted the drug — for saving her in her battle with the coronavirus.
  • State Rep. Karen Whitsett, who learned Monday she has tested positive for COVID-19, said she started taking hydroxychloroquine on March 31, prescribed by her doctor, after both she and her husband sought treatment for a range of symptoms on March 18.
  • "It was less than two hours" before she started to feel relief, said Whitsett, who had experienced shortness of breath, swollen lymph nodes, and what felt like a sinus infection. She is still experiencing headaches, she said.
  • Elsewhere, a Los Angeles doctor said he is seeing significant success in prescribing hydroxychloroquine in combination with zinc to treat patients with severe symptoms of COVID-19.
  • The drug has been touted as a possible treatment for COVID-19 by President Trump among others, but it remains controversial as some experts believe it is unproven and may not be effective.
  • The drug has long been used for treatment of malaria and conditions such as lupus and arthritis but is not technically approved by the FDA for COVID-19. The agency, however, is encouraging trials and has provided limited emergency authorization for its use to treat COVID-19 patients.
  • Dr. Anthony Cardillo said he has seen very promising results when prescribing hydroxychloroquine in combination with zinc for the most severely-ill COVID-19 patients.
  • "Every patient I've prescribed it to has been very, very ill and within 8 to 12 hours, they were basically symptom-free," Cardillo told Eyewitness News. "So clinically I am seeing a resolution very consistently."
Belt and Road, COVID-19 Style https://spectator.us/italy-china-ppe-sold-coronavirus/
  • After COVID-19 made its way to Italy, decimating the country's significant elderly population, China told the world it would donate Personal Protective Equipment (PPE) to help Italy stop its spread.
  • Reports later indicated that China had actually sold, not donated, the PPE to Italy. A senior Trump administration official tells The Spectator that it is much worse than that: China forced Italy to buy back the PPE supply that it gave to China during the initial coronavirus outbreak.
  • "Before the virus hit Europe, Italy sent tons of PPE to China to help China protect its own population,' the administration official explained. 'China then has sent Italian PPE back to Italy — some of it, not even all of it … and charged them for it."
  • China also recently donated PPE to Sweden and Spain, with many doctors reporting that masks and respirators included in the shipment were defective or already used.
  • "Someone got very sloppy," said a senior health official in Spain. "It must have been a mistake."

"This was a sneak attack, like a thief in the night."

"A wartime President."

"A great battle, against an invisible enemy."

"We will win and declare a great victory for our country."

All of these are direct quotes from President Donald Trump, all uttered since March 1st of this year.

And of course, all of them ring decidedly true and make perfect sense. Even Trump's most ardent opponents have referred to the current situation in which America finds itself as a once in a generation emergency, and that we should be on a wartime footing. They've called for more and more power to be handed to, no, more explicitly they've called for more power to be taken by the President to do battle against "The Invisible Enemy," everything from commandeering manufacturing plants to logistics and shipping companies to pharmaceutical manufacturing and research, to nationalizing the banking sector and all mortgages.

On the other hand, the President has preferred to form a partnership with private industries to wage the war. Turning to America's great companies to produce masks, respirators, ventilators, medicine and vaccines that will ensure our country can and will prevail.

The United States – and the entire world – is engaged in a great battle, against an unseen enemy. An enemy that threatens to kill our people and destroy our nation and our way of life. It's an enemy that we have seen and fought before, as a people. We have faced this enemy throughout human history, over and over we've had to battle it. All of us are descendants of survivors of the countless previous wars that humanity has had to fight against this hidden enemy of man.

The enemy is a disease. The enemy is a virus.

The enemy is not SARS-CoV-2, Coronavirus.

No, the virus we're battling against is Slavery.

Call it what you want. Socialism. Collectivism. Communism. Statism. Despotism. A one-world government. Those are all forms of the same thing: some people's individual liberty captured for the betterment and benefit of others. All of those are forms of enslaving some men to the will and needs of others.

A virus is a biological construct. It's a biological disease caused by a virus, an unliving, unthinking sliver of organic material and takes over cells to turn them into factories that produce more viral particles to take over more cells until, ultimately, the host is killed. Doing battle against a virus requires treating both the symptoms caused by infection as well as finding a vaccine that can destroy the virus itself.

But slavery is a political and moral construct. It's a social disease caused by an immoral idea, spread by unthinking, unfeeling human beings who transmit the disease to others turning them into factories that produce more unthinking, unfeeling human beings. They take over the lives of more and more people within a society or a country until that country is destroyed. Doing battle against slavery requires treating both the symptoms caused by the infection within a society as well as finding a cure that can destroy the idea itself.

President Donald Trump is absolutely correct. This is a war.

President Donald Trump is absolutely correct. This is a war. He's also correct, we have fought this type of war before.

But this is not a war against a coronavirus. That's child's play. Terrible though it may be and despite the thousands of lives we may lose to COVID-19, it's relatively straightforward how to defeat it. Prevent the spread, find a cure. And we will. America and the world will survive this pandemic as it has survived a million others in our past. Each of us is the descendent of survivors of a thousand biological plagues.

The President rightly stated, we cannot let the cure for COVID-19 be worse than the disease itself. And he has the right idea in terms of the outcome here: we can't let our response to coronavirus destroy the American economy.

But saving the American economy isn't really the objective. A healthy, productive American economy that enables people to generate wealth and accumulate things is a consequence, an outcome, it's not a cause in itself. What has enabled the American economy to be the most robust and powerful engine for human ingenuity, productivity and wealth generation in world history is individual liberty? Men free to think and build, to seek new achievements and to be rewarded for doing so, to collaborate with each other, to challenge and compete with each other, driving each other to be smarter, to work harder, to find the better way to solve problems.

That is America. That is the battle we're in, what we're fighting to save. Beating COVID-19 is easy, it's only a matter of time. This particular virus may be new to us, but we know the formula for its defeat, much like the long-march to destroy the NAZI war machine in World War II, the writing was on the wall long before Berlin fell. Germany's defeat was inevitable once America entered the war. So too, the defeat of SARS-CoV-2 is already a foregone conclusion, the application of human ingenuity and thousands of years of human inventiveness and knowledge ensures our ultimate victory over this latest scourge.

But that is not the great threat. If the cure for COVID-19 is the slavery of some men for the benefit and betterment of others, then perhaps it would be better for COVID-19 to take us all. If the cost of defeating the biological virus is that we succumb to the political and moral disease of collectivism, then Trump's fear will have been proved right and the cure will have been worse than the disease.

Look at what's being proposed here. In the US, the government should take over every major industry, from healthcare and pharmaceutical companies to grocery and food delivery to airlines to shipping and transportation. Construction, take it over! Banking system, take it over! Stock market, take it over!

And on the global stage, the United Nations is now calling for a permanent 10% global tax on the GDP of every country.

And on the global stage, the United Nations is now calling for a permanent 10% global tax on the GDP of every country.
Ostensibly designed to fight COVID-19, but made permanent to enable the UN to fight future pandemics, as well as the ongoing pandemic of Climate Change…oh, and Poverty and Income Inequality, and sexism and nationalism and a thousand other isms they believe are unfair.

The United States is less than 5% of the World's population, but we represent over 25% of the world's GDP. So, the UN is effectively proposing that about 4% of the population transfer 10% of our wealth each year to support the remaining 96% of the human race, including supporting countries who are our enemies and who seek our very destruction.

What is proposed here is nothing short of the permanent enslavement of the United States for the betterment and benefit of every other national on earth.

There is no doubt the human race will survive COVID-19. Human beings have survived a thousand similar pandemics with barely more than a blip in our progress as a species.

But the plague of collectivism, the idea that some men should be slaves to others, that some people have some sort of right to lay claim to the intellect and productive energy of others, that is the real battle. That is the true invisible enemy that we must yet again defeat.

Ask yourself, would you have some right to charge into Mike Lindell's My Pillow bedding factory and point a gun at him and his workers to force them to produce cotton face masks to avoid being shot? No, of course the idea sounds preposterous and all rational thinking human beings would clearly see that as an immoral, criminal act. And yet many people are proposing that we do exactly that, just the gunman wears a blue UN Helmet or carries a US Marshall's badge.

Alternatively, does Mike Lindell have the right to choose to convert his factory over to making cotton face masks, at his own expense and to pay his workers to make those masks instead of making pillows? Yes, that is moral, that is a human being engaged in activity that he believes to be virtuous and right and, yes, for the love of all that is holy — profitable.

Just as with COVID-19, the defeat of all forms of slavery should be an inevitability. And yet from every corner of our country, the call is for the forced enslavement of some people for the benefit of others.

President Trump has this right. We cannot let the cure for COVID-19 come at the cost of our economy. And if that is the objective, then it is our original principles: individual liberty, freedom of movement and speech, that is what must be defended. That is how we protect and restore our economy and our country. That is how we ensure that our children's children will also be descendants of survivors of plagues and pandemics, whether they are the biological - or the moral kind.

UPDATE: Here's how the discussion went on radio. Watch the video below.


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