Glenn's radio interview with Jon Huntsman



GLENN: From Radio City in Midtown Manhattan, this is the third most listened to show in all of America. I wanted to take a special hour here and talk to you about something that is very, very personal to me and something that I think you are going to get an awful lot out of. I know I have. I want to tell you that I changed on 9/11 and then I changed about two, three months after that. Do you remember all of us standing in line to donate blood after 9/11? Do you remember how many times we would drive by a firefighter and he would be standing out in the middle of the street and he would have a boot out there and you'd put that money in the boot? Do you remember watching even Hollywood ask for funds and you wrote the check and you wrote the check to the point that it hurt. And then do you remember finding out all the scandal of all of the money from 9/11 and what happened to it and how they were buying phone systems, and I told you on the air right after that, I said I will never lend my name to an organization for fundraising ever again, won't do it, because I can't trust any of them. I said I am going to personally going to get involved, I will personally donate, but it's up to you to personally donate and you do the homework yourself. The only exception I have made on that is the USO and it's actually the USO of metropolitan New York. It's not even the USO for the entire United States and the reason why I have raised money for the USO is because I personally am involved at the USO of metropolitan New York. I have personally gone and made care packages for our troops with our family at the USO of metropolitan, New York. That's the only exception I've made, on the air, until today. And I'm going to make this exception because I met a man who I think is changing my life. I met a man who I had no idea people like this even existed. Before I introduce you to him, I want to tell you how we met.

I was out West and a friend said, "Jon Huntsman would like to meet you." And I said, isn't he like the billionaire that invented the egg carton?" And they said, yeah. And I said, I'm cool to meet billionaires, okay. Said, "He wants to take you to lunch." Said all right. So I arrive and I'm driving up the mountain and I'm seeing a giant hospital up on top of the mountain and I drive up. They said, well, here we are. I said, hmmm, Jon Huntsman knows how to treat a man right. We're eating at the hospital. It's the Huntsman Cancer Center.

We went in and Mr. Huntsman was waiting there at the front door and we walked out, kindest guy you've ever met. Walked out and he shook my hand and I said, hello, Mr. Huntsman. He said, "Glenn, I want to take you out for lunch here and I want to show you the cancer center." And I said, yes, sir, I'd love to see it. He opened up the door and I was one step in to this hospital and I said, my gosh, I have never seen a hospital. He turned around and he looked me in the eye and he said, "It's not a hospital." He said, "I'm going to cure cancer and then I'm turning this into a Ritz Carlton." And I laughed. He said, "I'm serious. We're going to cure cancer here." And you know what? I believe him.

We went upstairs and we had lunch. I had, I think, prime rib in the cafeteria. I'm not kidding you. It was the best prime rib I've ever had. Why? Because Jon Huntsman has had cancer before and in his treatment at 3:00 in the morning, he would be starving and they couldn't get anything and then when the kitchen would open, it stunk. The food was bad. So when he opened up his cancer center, he decided he wanted to have five star dining for everybody. The patients can order whatever they want, whenever they want it and it's unbelievable.

Treating the patient with respect, something I learned firsthand recently, how important it is, but it goes so much further than just the hospital, and if you want to understand the hospital, you have to understand the man behind it. So many people tell me you can't be a good businessman anymore and just have ethics. You've got to shave the edges. You've got to cut the corners. No, you don't. Proof positive, Mr. Jon Huntsman. Welcome to the program, sir.

HUNTSMAN: Thank you, Glenn, and thank you for that very remarkable and thoughtful introduction.

GLENN: Jon, I mean this sincerely, and Neil Cavuto and I are becoming good friends and we have spent a lot of time just talking back and forth about you. You are truly one of the most remarkable men I think on planet Earth. You are a billionaire, but you started life living in a house that literally had cardboard walls, right?

HUNTSMAN: Well, that's right, Glenn, but first of all, thanks to you and Neil for those comments. I would disagree with you on any person who's out of the ordinary. Sometimes extraordinary things happen to people and sometimes blessings befall certain people, but you've been very gracious and I accept that with a deep sense of humility.

GLENN: Jon, see, this is what I love about you but that's -- I mean, some people make it happen and they change the world. You -- start at the beginning. You grew up poor. You picked potatoes for a while and you lived in a home that had two families living in it divided by a wall that was made out of cardboard.

HUNTSMAN: Well, that's close, Glenn. I was born in rural Idaho in a place, my father was a rural schoolteacher in southern Idaho and we lived in a very, very small home, two-room home without inside plumbing. And then my father moved some years later to receive a college education, a graduate education, and we moved into student housing for three years, very difficult years for a young man, and I have two brothers. So three of us were crammed in there with Mother and Dad. And that's where we actually lived in a converted World War II Quonset hut where we had cardboard walls. We lived there for three years as we paid all of our money to help Father get through his college education and that made my -- Glenn, that made the home where I was born with outside plumbing look like a mansion.

GLENN: Then you went on and you went back picking potatoes. You worked for a guy where you learned a lot of lessons because he wasn't necessarily a good guy and then at what point did the egg container thing happen?

HUNTSMAN: Well, after I -- I had the wonderful opportunity for a very, very thoughtful Jewish family in San Francisco, called about different high schools in California and the West and they sent me back to the Wharton School of Finance. I had never heard of the Wharton School. I didn't know it was the number one business school in America and they sent me there. Then afterwards with that education and an Idaho background, a lot of farming and potato picking and good common sense that farm boys sometimes have, I landed a job in the egg business and in the egg business it was there that we developed the first plastic egg carton and I left that after about a decade and went into my own business to develop the first plastic plates, bowls, dishes, take-out food containers, a multiplicity of products including the first Big Mac container and many other products that are out on the market. And this is about 1973 or '74, Glenn. But I have to tell you and your wonderful audience that, you know, I had men and women surrounding me who were smarter than I was and who really get the credit for many of these early innovations and productions that have changed literally the world in which we live.

GLENN: Okay. You know, John, quite honestly I thought it was cool that, oh, wow, this is the guy who, you know, his company made the first plastic fork and spoon. How cool is that. But it didn't, it didn't impress me. What has impressed me, sir, is what you have done with that money. You are an extreme capitalist who has gone literally from rags to riches and yet you do your business on a handshake. You look a man in the eye and a deal is a deal. And if you don't mind telling the story of how you sold your business to somebody who got a bunch of attorneys involved, all the parameters changed and he came back to you and said, "Okay, I know your business is worth an awful lot more; what is it going to cost me today." Can you tell that story?

HUNTSMAN: Well, thank you, Glenn. I will. I again mention it with a certain moderate reservation because it sounds a bit self-serving but life is interesting, Glenn, first of all. Life is not fair, but we must be fair in our dealings and that's the one thing I think that transcends everything we do in life is that we constantly bump against situations that are unfair and people who are unfair and corporations who are unfair and government institutions and yet -- and this is a perfect example and it didn't even occur to me, but I mean, you are raised as kids with an opportunity as young men and women, boys and girls to live in the sandboxes of our life, the playgrounds of our life. It allows us to learn manners and honesty and integrity and we treat each other well. When we're all kids, we don't know some are black, some are white, some are brown and some are Muslim and some are Christian and some are Jewish. Nobody cares because we all treat people fairly. As life came along, my business, when you are starting from nothing, you are always in a financial spiral downward and you move up and you give part of that away or you share it or you expand it. You are moving down. So you always have to protect the down side of your business. That's a common thing.


Jon and Karen Huntsman

So I sold 40% of my business to a man by the name of Emerson camp and he was chairman and CEO of Great Lakes Chemical, one of the great chemical companies in America, 1986. Emerson said I'll pay you $54 million. I've had this business appraised and the 40% I'm buying, I'll pay you $54 million. I said, Emerson, that's fine. I was excited to move on, I needed the money, I needed it for payroll and for expansion and for the other purposes of a growing business, and he took quite a bit of time to get around to having his attorneys look into the deal and to give me the papers, the contract and all the other negotiating instruments that we had to have in a deal that size.

Finally by the time he did it, six months had elapsed and in the meantime our markets had turned around. The chemical markets are similar to most other commodity products, whether it be metals of different kinds or gold or silver or oil, and we know what the oil markets have done. Well, the same thing happened back in '86 in the chemical market. The prices of chemicals had gone up dramatically. Margins had improved, profits had improved. And after six months when he came back with a contract, that price was worth not $54 million but for 40% of the business it was then appraised at $225 million, a rather handsome difference. And so he came back with his lawyers and said, Jon, I know I've delayed, I know I've waited, I know I haven't moved fast, but the business is now worth approximately $200 million. And I said, no, Emerson, it's worth about $225 million if we take our latest appraisal.

Anyway, to make a long story short, he said, let's split the difference. I'll pay you $125 million for your 40% of the business. And I said, Emerson, that's not -- I will not accept that. I shook your hand at $54 million six months ago and that's exactly what you're going to pay for this business. And he was arguing that he should pay more and I was arguing that a handshake's a contract. I don't care about the lawyers. When you shake a man's hand, it's a contract. It's your bond. It tells a little bit about your integrity. And even though I may have lost money on that deal, Glenn, I didn't lose money in life. It was an important aspect for my children, my grandchildren and our corporation to see that when you make a deal, a deal is consummated with the shaking of another man's hand. And forgive me again for sounding self-serving, Glenn, but thank you for asking.

GLENN: Jon, I've got to tell you I read that story about you and it brought me to tears when I heard that story because there's more to that story than you will ever tell. As I read it, you had said at the end, "But in the end it all turns around and it's all worth it in the end." And I expected that you as a businessman would say, "Because in the end what I did caused this other business deal to happen and I made $350 million." But instead that's not what had meaning to you. You said that in the end after this gentleman passed away, he asked you to speak at his funeral and that's what made losing all that money worth it to you. How?

HUNTSMAN: Well, Glenn, he died a few years after that event and his funeral was held in Indianapolis and I was asked along with the governor of Indiana, Evan Bayh at the time, he is now a U.S. senator, the two of us were asked to speak at his funeral and I thought, you know, this man must have been remarkably moved by the fact that he had dealt with someone who had been honest with him in his dealings to the point where when he passed away, he had put in his last testament, his papers who he wanted to speak at his funeral. We weren't particularly close. There was no great reason why I should speak above those who had been his friends for life. But that had meant so much to him, and I looked around that, the group who had come to hear his eulogy, Glenn, and there were all of the leaders of the chemistry, my peers, the ones I would be doing business. And when I was introduced at that funeral, they said the deceased man, and they told a little bit about him, had great respect for Mr. Huntsman because of their business transaction.

Well, that meant a great deal to me that he would ask me to speak, Glenn, and again I'm pinching myself here a little bit because I've heard so many sugar type stories about people who are self-serving, and I don't want to come across that way, Glenn.

GLENN: Well, I know, Jon, and the reason why I know you are so -- you are. You are an amazing guy. You are so uncomfortable talking about yourself and the reason why I am asking you to do that, or I have asked you to do that, to share that story is because I need my listeners to understand why I can then come to them and say I want you to, if you are looking to give money to a charity, I want you to give money to this charity. I want you to help Jon Huntsman and all of the amazing people at the Huntsman Cancer Institute cure cancer and help these patients. The reason why I wanted you to tell that story is because in today's world no one knows who they can trust. No one wants to take their hard earned money, especially when, you know, America's beginning to struggle, and give it to somebody and not know that it's going to the right place. It's not going to limousines, it's not going to overhead. It's actually going to help people. And I needed -- my word is my bond to my listeners, Jon, and I needed them to know why I know the guy who runs this institute, his word is his bond. I can't ask anybody to ever give a dime to anything unless I know that, and they needed to hear that from you. And I'm sorry to make you uncomfortable but it's the integrity that you have that permeates that hospital that I have never, ever seen in another charity and I am relieved to finally find it, Jon.

HUNTSMAN: Well, thank you so much, Glenn, and to your listeners. I'm very, very appreciative and grateful, and it is a remarkable place and it is expanding and growing and as you know, Glenn, we're doing great works for cancer and we could get into that if you'd like in any way, shape or form, but it's a terrible, terrible disease and it affects one out of two men and one out of three women in their life. So half of your listeners out there in that great world in which we live will someday be impacted by this disease and all of their families will in one way or another.

GLENN: I need to take a break and when we come back, I want you to go to HuntsmanCancer.org and see the facility and read all about it. But when you come back, I just had the worst experience of my life in a hospital. I want to show you the exact opposite, the way a hospital should be, next.

Well, it's officially official… Michael Avenatti is the worst lawyer in the history of ridiculously bad lawyers. I'm trying to figure out what "National Day" this should be, because with Avenatti it really could go either way. Right now it's a toss up between "The No Good Very Bad Lawyer Day" or "The No Good Very Bad Political Operative Day."

A federal judge yesterday seemed to be confused on that as well. Avenatti has been representing Stormy Daniels in a defamation lawsuit against President Trump. It all started when Avenatti, with his infinite superstar lawyer awesomeness, decided to build his case off of - get this…. A TWEET from the president. Trump tweeted this back in April regarding a man, allegedly sent by Trump, that had threatened her not to come forward with her story:

A sketch years later about a nonexistent man. A total con job, playing the Fake News Media for Fools (but they know it)!

BOOM, Avenatti let loose the hounds of… well, a defamation suit.

But the judge yesterday couldn't tell if this was just bad lawyering or some kind of game of political football. Either way, he opted to rule it as both. The judge stated that the president's tweet was "rhetorical hyperbole", protected under the first amendment, and all or part of the quote "politics and public discourse in the United States."

So forget for a moment that a federal judge has just highlighted that a defamation lawsuit between a sitting U.S. President, a pornstar, and a political activist - masquerading as a lawyer - is now considered normal and business as usual. Consider for just a second that this "lawyer", is actually considering running for president. A man that has shown no qualms at all with parading women (first Daniels and then Swetnick) in front of the entire world, embarrass them, and do it all for his own ugly political greed.

To everyone that donated, you just paid President Trump's lawyers over half a million dollars.

The federal judge ordered the case closed, and Stormy Daniels to pay for all the president's legal fees. And this might be the funniest thing to come out of all this. Daniels set up a Crowd Justice page, kind of like a Go Fund Me, back in April to pay for all her legal fees. As of today that page has raised five hundred and eighty-six thousand dollars. So, to everyone that donated, you just paid President Trump's lawyers over half a million dollars.

As the kids these days say… L-O-L

Wait, 'white woman' is now a disparaging term? I can't even.

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Feminism began in the 1830s as a revolution by affluent white women who wanted birth control and the right to vote. As feminism developed, it expanded its focus so that women of every sort were included. It has even expanded further beyond women, to "marginalized communities." Lately, it's gone a step further and started doing some "marginalizing" of its own.

The madness of the Kavanaugh confirmation hearing was a watershed event. The entire country got an up-close view of what feminism has come to. It has become remarkably anti-truth, or at least unconcerned with truth. Instead, it's about destruction.

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A lot of women sided with Dr. Ford, because they saw Ford as a symbol of womanhood, just as many people saw Kavanaugh, not just as a man, and not just a white man, but as the symbol of the system they claim to fight, the patriarchy.

For many reasons, the term "white man" has become derogatory, an honest-to-God insult that is not applied to any other race or gender, not in that openly insulting way. The indenting-obsessed feminists and activists have led an untiring charge against white men, and, until now, he's faced the outrage alone, quietly. White women, on the other hand, were part of that struggle against white men. They, like their fellow marginalized people, were the victims of white straight cis-gendered men. But postmodernism and social justice don't stop until the entire house collapses, so now they're going after white women as well.

A recent article in National Review titled "'White Women' Becomes a Disparaging Term" examines this shift.

Today, white women are being lumped together into a giant bloc subject to absurdly broad stereotyping and vitriolic condemnation. They're being told to step back and know their place by writers in the New York Times ("white women benefit from patriarchy by trading on their whiteness to monopolize resources for mutual gain"), The New Yorker ("despite the enduring legacy of testimony by black women, white women have often played the protagonists in the history of sexual violence, and black women have been relegated to the supporting cast") and NBC News ("white women who voted for Trump . . . clearly have no issue with the president's openly misogynistic behavior, his demeaning of female reporters and his mocking of [Christine Blasey] Ford).

The author adds that:

A writer for The Root castigated Taylor Swift because "like some white women, she uses her privilege to not be involved until she's directly affected." Talia Lavin, the New Yorker fact-checker who resigned in June after erroneously suggesting that an ICE agent (who turned out to be a combat-wounded Marine Corps veteran) had a Nazi tattoo, continues to contribute to The New Yorker and tells her 51,000 Twitter followers, "patriarchy won't protect you no matter how hard white women fight for it." "White women use strategic tears to silence women of colour," ran a headline in the Guardian. On the basis of five phone calls, plus the story of what happened to Emmett Till in 1955, Rolling Stone published an essay entitled, "Why White Women Keep Calling the Police on Black People," blaming them for "a new 21st-century version of Jim Crow."

The mainstream media, like 4th wave feminists—and, believe me, there is a serious overlap—has become interested in activism. They want to destroy everything that they disagree with—the most horrible person to them would be the cis-gendered straight, able-bodied, financially-independent white man who is politically conservative and Christian, especially if he voted for Trump and listens to Kanye.

The Left's kind of activism is dangerous, too, because it's a postmodern form of activism, so truth doesn't matter and language is a weapon used to attack whoever is deems "oppressors," which has, until now, been mostly white men and anyone who tries to defend them and anyone who disagrees with the postmodern politics of the Left. Anyone who has tried to stand up and say, "This isn't right, you're being sexist and racist by accusing 'white men' of all these things, and calling them sexist and racist." But that doesn't matter. And it doesn't work. These people have literally accused Shapiro, an Orthodox Jew, of antisemitism, and called Candace Owens and Kanye West, who are black, white supremacists. They call Christina Hoff Sommers, who is a feminist woman, a misogynist. We could spend all day going through examples, but you know plenty already.

These activists can say whatever they want and attack whomever they please and nobody can stop them.

These activists can say whatever they want and attack whomever they please and nobody can stop them. As anyone who has so much as disagreed with them will tell you, they are ruthless. White women used to be part of their tribe. But now, they are finding out how ruthless their former allies can be. Hopefully, there's enough sanity left among enough people in that tribe to realize what's going on. Hopefully, they realized that maybe they'll be next.

Go to the polls and keep mob rule at bay

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November is nearly upon us, and polls are starting to come out. The most recent was a poll conducted last week by the Washington Post and ABC News that showed Congressional Democrats have an 11 point lead heading into the midterms. The biggest swing, as expected after the Kavanaugh circus, is Independent women who are sliding Democrat 52% to 38% Republican.

This is a significant build on the lead last reported back in mid September. Real Clear Politics took the average of eighteen total polls, minus Rasmussen - because it's uh… Rasmussen - and it showed Democrats holding on to a slim lead of six and a half points.

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If this trajectory holds, it appears that the Left got exactly what they wanted when they tried to destroy a man's life all in the disgusting name of politics. They wanted a repeat of the 1991/92 Clarence Thomas fallout - later dubbed "The Year of The Woman - and they're on pace to get it.

How is it that we are so easily played by these awful people we call politicians? This is something I realize everyone listening right now already knows, but if your first thought is emotion every time someone in Washington opens their mouth… take a step back! Do some research and ask yourself, "Why am I feeling so outraged?" This has never been more important than right now. The left is abandoning the rule of law and moving towards mob rule. There's a reason why they all want to abolish the Electoral College. They want to work you up into a frenzy, and then they want to unleash you on the polling booth. But it's all fake. It's a con.

If fiscal responsibility is this bad now, imagine how bad it'll get with a Democrat controlled House, Senate and Executive Branch. The Mercatus Center at George Mason University just released their annual report on fiscal accountability, showing which states are run the most efficiently. Over the past several years, these are the worst run states in the entire Union: Illinois, California, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Connecticut, Hawaii, New Mexico, New York and Rhode Island. Notice a common denominator here? Every single one is a blue state.

We cannot hand power over to mob rule.

On the other hand, these are the most efficiently ran states: South Dakota, Tennessee, Nebraska, Florida, Utah, Alaska, Oklahoma, Wyoming, and Montana. Umm, yeah… ALL Red states.

The facts and numbers are there, but the Left doesn't want you to see them. They don't want you doing your own homework… they just want you pissed off! Don't give in to the outrage. We cannot hand power over to mob rule. There's too much at stake.

"May you live in interesting times" it seems, is actually not an ancient Chinese saying, blessing or curse. The strongest match one can find to its origins comes from the Yorkshire Post in 1936:

Sir Austen Chamberlain, addressing the annual meeting of Birmingham Unionist Association last night, spoke of the "grave injury" to collective security by Germany's violation of the Treaty of Locarno.

Sir Austen, who referred to himself as "a very old Parliamentarian," said:

It is not so long ago that a member of the Diplomatic Body in London, who had spent some years of his service in China, told me that there was a Chinese curse which took the form of saying, 'May you live in interesting times.' There is no doubt that the curse has fallen on us. We move from one crisis to another. We suffer one disturbance and shock after another.

I like the quote, Chinese or English, as it gives us a correct or new perspective on strife, should we care to view our struggles as neither blessing nor curse. My father taught this to me as a small child. But I only really learned it in one of the darkest chapters of my life. Alcoholism and divorce. There is nothing that life can hand to you that is in itself bad. It all depends on what you do with it. Will you allow it to change you in destructive ways through anger, bitterness and despair? Or will you allow it, whatever it is, to strengthen you through enlightenment, correction, humility?

There is nothing that life can hand to you that is in itself bad. It all depends on what you do with it.

We have a desperate need for humility in our society from DC to Hollywood. Everyone left and right is convinced that either they are or their side is absolutely right. And if someone on their side strays from the pack, then they must be "a traitor to the race, party or cause". They are wrong and we remain right. Scientific atheists "know that there is no God" even though almost everything they now believe or "know" in science now proves that the scientists that came before them were wrong. How can those whose field has been built on enhancing, evolving, or outright proving that others and their theories were wrong, be so certain? If those who should be the least certain of final truth are now calling heretic for those who disagree, we are indeed living in interesting times.

But it isn't a "them" problem even though that is what the world is currently trying to sell each of us. It is instead a simple "us" issue. Perhaps we don't see it because we are so busy staging, filtering, or enhancing the colors on our Facebook or Instagram pics that we can no longer recognize or even like the simple truth about us and what our life really is. Much of our life is a lie. We have been marketed to since we were born, told that we are not complete unless we wear, consume, own, vacation at or buy product 1 or 2. It has gone so far as telling us that not only are we not good enough if we don't have all of that, but now, we cannot even be a part of the great new society unless we believe and champion (product, politician or party) A, B or C. Opinions have become products.

Now, however, we are in the next and perhaps final stage. We ourselves are the product. Companies like Google, Facebook, Amazon and YouTube no longer see us as the customer, but what we do, think and believe are now commodities. If you cannot fill this line in: "I am ____________ , Someone will always be there to fill it in for you. Buy this makeup to use the word beautiful. This label to let others know "I AM cool, or in style," or even "I AM rich.'

Buy Democrat to be "compassionate," "smarter than others," or "science-minded." It doesn't matter if you really are any of those things in reality, the label is all you need. Buy Republican if you want to be patriotic, support our troops or for family values. We now buy and believe labels and always judge a book by its cover. Buy the label "Christian" and you can love any life you want but you now can use religion to excuse either yours or anyone else's behaviors. Buy the label progressive and you believe in science even though you deny it in basic biology.

Even labels that were never for sale like "courage" come with a price tag, and its price keeps going lower and lower. Now, this once time revered label can be yours for simply saying things out loud to a room full of people who agree with you and will all cheer when you say it.

Labels and words are experiencing a fire sale and it seems "everything must go."

What comes next is always tough.

Heaven knows the proper price to attach to something so celestial as freedom. — Thomas Payne.

Each generation, except for the last, has had to earn and renew their freedom. They did not buy or sell the label the "greatest generation." In fact, it wasn't even them that came up with that title. It was the "boomers." At the time, there were no labels - they just saw themselves as people, as Americans. They saw the crisis not as anyone's fault, but rather as their turn to stand and do the right thing. It is what they did with their "crisis" that made others bestow the "greatest generation" title on them, and only years later.

We are living in a time of great crisis, not much different or of smaller scale than the great struggles of the past. All of the labels we think we have now, will fall away. Those that we have bought will become worthless and every new label will be purchased with blood, sweat, tears and courage.

Barack Obama and Donald Trump are neither the problem nor the solution. They are a symptom.

What we will face, in the end, will not be smaller than what many of our grandparents or great grandparents faced in the World Wars. No less frightening than the global economic unrest of the 1930's. Nor will it be any greater. It will just be ours. And just like the generations past, it will be our choice on whether or not we survive. What a blessing. The boomers feasted off the crisis of their parents and never truly had to choose life or death, freedom or slavery. They never had to push themselves as a group beyond what humans thought possible to achieve something as valuable as freedom.

The crisis we are just now beginning to see is a blessing our parents never received. Each of us will have to pick between black and white, slavery or freedom, good or evil, and life or death. We will all know in the years to come who we really are, if we chose carefully or if we simply allowed ourselves to become. We can become, through this struggle, exactly who we were born to be. Our best and highest selves.

If each of us were honest and began to see this struggle in the proper light, we would admit that it is the softness of our foundations that have caused these struggles. Barack Obama and Donald Trump are neither the problem nor the solution. They are a symptom. Look all around you. No matter whom you voted for, you will admit that the country, and perhaps the entire world over, is sick.

We are all feeling it and each of our political doctors are seeing the same symptoms and prescribing the opposite medicine. Each of us, as patients, all so desperate to cure what is killing us, become more and more vested in our own "doctor's cure." Our doctor is right and yours is wrong! At the same times each doctor knows that he or she has everything to lose if his patients begin to seek another opinion, diagnosis or remedy. It is their best interest to keep their patients busy looking at the other side. Meanwhile, none of us stop and ask if the diagnosis is even correct. I guess we are just too busy fighting for what our doctor said.

I am not sure about you, but when I am sick or in pain, I am usually at my worst interpersonally. We all snap at others. We act as our lesser selves. When I am sick, fearful or angry, it is almost always followed by a time where I begin conversations with, "I am so sorry for what I said or did, I was just having a really bad day."

We are all having a really very bad, most difficult day. Everyday, it seems.

While it is true that there are difficulties and dangers that lie ahead of us, we must not assume that we will lay down and watch our country go to ruin. Many, if not most of those who voted for democrats and those who voted for republican have much in common with those who voted for neither. While parties and politicians try to convince us otherwise, and many of us may have believed it or even engaged in this "warfare," it is becoming more and more clear that our neighbors are not our enemies.

While it is true that there are difficulties and dangers that lie ahead of us, we must not assume that we will lay down and watch our country go to ruin.

If you are finding this a difficult concept to reconcile, simply ponder what our ancestors came here for, be it three months or three centuries ago. To make a better life, in a country that would allow you to follow your dream, work hard and keep what you built so your children could live a better life than you did and achieve even more than you did. That opportunity came not from this land, or even its people, but rather from its mission statement: "all men are created equal and endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights, among them life, liberty and pursuit of happiness." While that mission statement was and always be aspirational, it has never been fully achieved. It is shaped and given the best chance to succeed when it is protected by the guardrails of the constitution and bill of rights. It is indeed our laws, which come from our American Thesis, that has created the modern world. It is indeed why people still die trying to get on this side of our border.

Is it too much of a stretch to believe that you and I are not alone in our doubt of our doctors? Are we the only ones left that think our neighbor, who knows how sick we all are, really wants everyone who disagrees with their doctor to die? Maybe they have seen flaws in their practitioner as we have. Maybe if we stop spending all our time looking at what is wrong with "them" and what's wrong with America, we can begin to see the things that are right and good.

Perhaps we are not as sick as some of these doctors tell us we are. Perhaps they are more akin to bad, crooked chiropractors that have done more damage to our spine than good and will bilk us for every dime week after week until we finally say no or are broke. We haven't wanted to listen to our friends, or those who tell us differently, because we feel the fool.

Perhaps we are beyond help and only have months to live, but, I don't think it needs to be this way. If we are going down, I want to go down with my friends and family around me. All of them, even those who told me not to listen to my doctor or the one I angrily chased away because I just knew they were wrong.

It is easy to jump on the bandwagon and light fires. It is harder always to put them out.

It is easy to jump on the bandwagon and light fires. It is harder always to put them out. Easy to lose friends and harder to make them. In the end, our founding documents are just an idea. I think a really good idea. One that says we can and should all be who we choose to be and live the life we build for ourselves with dignity and security.

But that idea fails if no one remembers it or believes in it.

I still do.

I am not a doctor but I think our illness is all in our heads. We have been convinced by those who suffer from some sort of societal Munchausen by proxy, that we are fatally ill and will only survive because of them. I think they need us to be sick and I for one think we as a people have had enough bed rest.

Once we choose to see things the way they are, coupled with who we always strived to be — our best selves — we will be fine and perhaps stronger than ever. I believe if we can once again see the best in each other — put our past in the past, and our strife and crisis in the right light — down the road, some other generation will name this one — I believe it will be good.

But one thing is sure, it will not be one we choose but rather the label we earned.