Toledo Mayor kicks out Marines



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GLENN: Let me go to Fred LeFebvre of WSPD in Toledo, Ohio, the home of quite possibly my favorite mayor.

LeFEBVRE: Oh, really?

GLENN: Yeah. Fred, I don't even remember this guy's name. What's his name again?

LeFEBVRE: Carlton S. Finkbeiner. It is pretty cartoonish as are most of his behaviors recently and before we go forward, I'd like to help you with your positive potty problem.

GLENN: Are you a positive potty role model?

LeFEBVRE: I am. And I understand that you suffer from MPPP. So you may want to pick up the book "Everybody Poops."

GLENN: Really?

LeFEBVRE: Have one of your guys pick that up. Have Stu find that for you, "Everybody Poops." Just read that.

GLENN: Fred, is it really a book?

LeFEBVRE: It really is a book.

GLENN: It really is a book. How old are your kids, Fred?

LeFEBVRE: My kids are out of college already.

GLENN: Yeah, you son of a...

LeFEBVRE: But we read it to my children.

GLENN: Really? "Everybody Poops"?

LeFEBVRE: "Everybody Poops."

GLENN: You know, I've forgotten because I've got college kids and I have a 2-year-old and everybody does poop, we have learned that.

LeFEBVRE: That's right.

GLENN: But I have forgotten the joys of the phone calls in the middle of the day, you know, when you're in meetings with high powered people and you have to say, excuse me just a minute, "Who went poopy on the potty! Good for you!"

LeFEBVRE: Well, it never got that bad for me, thankfully.

GLENN: Yeah. Yeah, it has for me but I'm not a positive potty role model, but anyway --

LeFEBVRE: Well, you will be. There's always hope. I just hope that our mayor here, Carlton S. Finkbeiner becomes a positive role model. I don't see that happening anytime soon.

GLENN: He kicked the Marines out of Toledo.

LeFEBVRE: Yeah, he did, Friday night, company A, 24th battalion, first marine. We're coming into town to do what they refer to as urban patrol exercises. You may have seen it around when they come into a city, urban practice, they practice in abandoned buildings, they work on the streets, not live fire or anything.

GLENN: Carlton must know there's no city better for abandoned buildings than Toledo, Ohio.

LeFEBVRE: Well, the interesting thing is after scoping them out and then referring to them the following day in his press conference, he said we would be glad to have them back, we have plenty of other abandoned buildings for them to use. He just, he wasn't aware of it apparently. There was a miscommunication according to him. He didn't know they were going to be in the central business district on a Friday evening.

GLENN: Isn't that where the mayor is keeping most of the abandoned buildings there in the central business --

LeFEBVRE: That's where ours are, where we're setting up there that are abandoned. The problem is these guys came all the way from Grand Rapids, Michigan, a four-hour drive. They were just about set up --

GLENN: Hang on just a second. Wait just a second. A four-hour drive, please tell me they weren't driving Humvees. They were driving something that was a little more environmentally friendly.

LeFEBVRE: Military vehicles.

GLENN: Prius.

LeFEBVRE: Very environmentally friendly.

GLENN: Of course they are.

LeFEBVRE: Probably about 3 miles per gallon but that's okay.

GLENN: All right.

LeFEBVRE: They were almost set up, they were ready to go. When the mayor sent word that because he hadn't been informed of it, even though everybody else knew, TV stations, radio stations, newspaper, all were aware of it and had made it known to the public, he wanted them out by 6:00.

GLENN: By 6:00. What time did they arrive?

LeFEBVRE: Probably around 3:00, something like that. They were just getting set up. The other vehicles were on the way. Captain Davis had come in early. He was the one in charge. He was setting up.

GLENN: Right.

LeFEBVRE: At that point Captain Davis changed out of his camo into a regular uniform as a sign of respect to the mayor.

GLENN: Yes.

LeFEBVRE: Went down to 1 Government Center to have a face-to-face with him and see if they could work something out. The mayor was too busy.

GLENN: Really?

LeFEBVRE: Yeah.

GLENN: Was he, like, walking his dog or something?

LeFEBVRE: He had somebody else walk the dog.

GLENN: He really does bring a dog to work, doesn't he?

LeFEBVRE: Yes, he does.

GLENN: I like a mayor that feels comfortable enough to have his dog in city hall.

LeFEBVRE: Well, I think he needs it. It's one of those therapy dogs. If he doesn't have the dog with him, he will kick somebody else.

GLENN: Really?

LeFEBVRE: Yeah.

GLENN: Oh, does he have a John McCain temper?

LeFEBVRE: Yeah, I would say so. There are stories of the mayor actually slapping his PI, his public information officer.

GLENN: Really?

LeFEBVRE: Throwing coffee cups and chairs, all kinds of wonderful things like that.

GLENN: That's too bad. I hope this interview is pissing him off.

LeFEBVRE: It doesn't matter. He won't come to me.

GLENN: So Fred, so he's kicked the Marines out and he did it because he didn't know. But I've heard also that he said that it was frightening people to have Marines there.

LeFEBVRE: Well, the number one -- first of all, like all Democrats there are a number of reasons, and the reasons change as the days go by.

GLENN: Sure.

LeFEBVRE: The first reason was that he hadn't been told there was a miscommunication.

GLENN: Got it.

LeFEBVRE: The second reason was --

GLENN: Wait, wait. So the first thing that you do is kick the Marines out? There was a miscommunication. So kick the Marines out of your town.

LeFEBVRE: Yeah, there are --

GLENN: The last thing you do is trust the Marines, yeah. All right.

LeFEBVRE: The second reason that he didn't want them there is because it would frighten people.

GLENN: Oh, that's a good one.

LeFEBVRE: The thousands of people that are downtown according to the mayor, the 10,000 to 14,000 people who are leaving work, the schoolchildren who are getting on the bus and, of course, all the people who went to the RV show this year.

GLENN: Yeah. Were they still in town just meandering around?

LeFEBVRE: No, no, he sent them home.

GLENN: No, I mean the RV show people.

LeFEBVRE: No, they're gone.

GLENN: I didn't know if they were still meandering around. They were like, the RV show was so great, I still want to just hang around all these empty buildings.

LeFEBVRE: No, they got frightened by the mayor and left.

GLENN: Does the mayor know that people are running from the center of town as it is? They don't -- maybe the Marines being present might actually make people feel more comfortable?

LeFEBVRE: Actually it probably would to know that there was a presence downtown, since the police force is kind of small right now.

GLENN: And I've talked to some of the police in Toledo, Ohio, and none of them really want to go on the record.

LeFEBVRE: Well, that's the thing. The mayor is also known for retribution. Yeah, he's not a friendly guy. So the Marines got kicked out, they had to be out by 6:00. They went back to Grand Rapids.

GLENN: Yeah.

LeFEBVRE: And from there the things have just blown up. Not only are the local people, citizens and ex-armed force people upset, it has spread on the Drudge and on CNN and on Fox News and now on your show.

GLENN: Those damn CNN people.

LeFEBVRE: Even ESPN had a blog about it.

GLENN: How did they tie that into sports in

LeFEBVRE: I have no idea. It was on ESPN and it was on our New Orleans Saints blog that our mayor had done this.

GLENN: Maybe they tied it in. Do you remember how the Baltimore Colts moved out of Baltimore in the middle of the night and just kind of abandoned the city? Maybe ESPN kind of went, oh, abandoned cities? Oh, it must be a sports story.

LeFEBVRE: Well, I think it was a little bit closer because this particular branch of the Marines has their public affairs officer based in New Orleans and so I think that's where the Saints tie-in came in, how it got to ESPN

GLENN: Okay, all right.

LeFEBVRE: The interesting thing is you would think, and you've dealt with these people on a pretty regular basis over the last few years. You would think that at some point he would say, like a sports guy, you know what, I'm really sorry, I made a mistake. No, yesterday at the state of the city address he said if this occasion rose again, I would do the exact same thing.

GLENN: Amen, brother. Kick those Marines out.

LeFEBVRE: That's right.

GLENN: Those damn, dirty Marines that you can never trust.

LeFEBVRE: And if you disagree with him and his terms of safeguarding Toledoans in his own words: We may disagree but you have my respect.

GLENN: Oh, gosh, I wish I could be reciprocal on that one. Let me ask you this: So he was safeguarding the people of Toledo from the Marines?

LeFEBVRE: Yes. According to him, his first priority, and this is again yesterday in his state of the city address, is the health and welfare and safety of Toledoans. I never asked for his help in my healthcare or my welfare.

GLENN: But Democrats do know about healthcare and welfare. So --

LeFEBVRE: That's what they want to do.

GLENN: Yeah. And usually everybody in the city is healthy because there's only like four people left and --

LeFEBVRE: I'm sorry to say some days that I'm still one of them.

GLENN: Okay. So he's guarding against the Marines and that's a good thing that you've got, that you've got -- you know you've got a mayor that if you're ever invaded by the Marines, he's going to kick them out.

LeFEBVRE: That's right. And at least the populists won't be frightened.

GLENN: Yes, okay. So Fred, thanks for filling us in on this and let us know what the cartoon mayor does, you know, if there's any other new developments.

LeFEBVRE: Well, I tell you what, the new development today city council is getting together at 2:00 here in Toledo and they are getting a resolution together. The worst part of it is they want to, according to the resolution, have the City of Toledo offer an apology. I think that's wrong. The City didn't do anything. It's the mayor that did.

GLENN: Why would the City of Toledo?

LeFEBVRE: Well, because that's council and they are all Democrats for the most part. Yesterday we did hold a demonstration outside.

GLENN: Did we -- hang on just a second. Wait, wait, wait. Didn't everybody else know about this, right?

LeFEBVRE: Everybody knew.

GLENN: It was only the mayor that kicked them out?

LeFEBVRE: Yeah.

GLENN: Yeah. City council should grow a set.

LeFEBVRE: That's what I said this morning.

GLENN: Yeah. Maybe they should just go to the mayor and say, you know what? You should probably offer an apology.

LeFEBVRE: That's exactly the way I feel. They shouldn't apologize. The city did nothing wrong. The citizens, in fact, have stood up for the Marines and have for years.

GLENN: Of course, of course they did. I mean, you know, it's not Berkeley, California, for the love of Pete.

LeFEBVRE: No, but we hate the idea that people are actually comparing us to Berkeley this week.

GLENN: You know what, because I read this story. I read the story yesterday and we talked and quite honestly laughed about it because of the cartoon mayor in the office yesterday. There's not a soul, at least at the CNN office or here, at least on my program I can speak for, that laughed about or compared Toledo to Berkeley. We compared the mayor to an idiot.

LeFEBVRE: Well, thank you. I appreciate that because the citizens here are behind the Marines 100%.

GLENN: I tell you what, you tell the mayor that if he just continues the policies that he's doing right now, he won't have to worry about anybody in town being afraid of the Marines because there will be no one left.

LeFEBVRE: Well, I appreciate it and I will pass that word on to him and let me just mention --

GLENN: Are you having lunch with him?

LeFEBVRE: -- very quickly before we go. We had a demonstration yesterday in front of city hall. We're doing one again today beginning at 3:00 for people who want to show their support for the armed forces and the Marines in particular.

GLENN: Unbelievable. Thanks, Fred.

LeFEBVRE: Thank you, Glenn.

Many members of the far-left already are calling for a ‘Night of Rage’ after the Supreme Court’s 6-3 decision to overturn Roe v. Wade, and the White House has been discussing plans to defy the ruling too. In fact, one idea floated by Biden Administration officials, according to the New York Times, includes providing abortions on military bases. So, will America experience another summer of riots? Are YOUR taxpayer dollars at risk? And what does this mean for deep-blue states? Josh Hammer, legal expert and opinion editor for Newsweek, joins Glenn to discuss what may come next...

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GLENN: Josh Hammer, he's the opinion editor of Newsweek. He's the host of the Josh Hammer show. He is really quite brilliant. One of the leading minds in the conservative movement, I think. Josh Hammer joins us now.

To tell us, what did you find in this decision?

JOSH: Glenn, great to be back with you, on such a momentous, and really such an emotional day, honestly. So, you know, look, as you said, this dropped recently. Funny enough, I was in the middle of getting a guest lecture from an organization on the advisory board as to when it drops. So I barely had any time to kind of skim through, let alone guess the concerning dissenting opinions. But it looks like this looks very similar, to the draft opinion that was leaked, by the Politico story, a month and a half ago, in early May. And I think those of us who were praying that the five justices from this leaked draft opinion, would have the fortitude to stiffen their spines against this unprecedented assault. Now knows that our prayers were answered, Glenn. That's really my takeaway right now.

This looks a lot like the leaked opinion. Justice Thomas and Justice Kavanaugh have some reconcurring opinions.

But unbelievable. And really just holding aside the constitutional law stuff for a second hear. Just speaking as pro-lifers, on a day like today, I think we really just need to pause. And I tweeted this out earlier. We need to just be grateful for our half century of pro-life activist forbearers. You know, this -- Glenn, this issue could have gone away after 1973. That was a long time ago. 1973. I mean, this issue could have just gone away. We owe a tremendous debt of gratitude to the pro-life moral activist. Political activist. And, of course, yes. Legal activist. Who fought day in and day out, that makes sure this great injustice stayed front and center of our national, political conscience. And in many days, the culmination of a half century of fighting for truth and justice. But in many ways, it's also a new beginning for the pro-life fight as well, interestingly.

STU: How do you mean a new beginning for the fight? I just it's going to turn, I think we're going to see abortion turn even darker in those states that allow it. Is that -- is that what you're meaning by this?

JOSH: Well, look, for a half century now, Roe vs. Wade, and its project any, specifically, the Planned Parenthood versus Casey case of 1992.

They took away from the states obviously. They arrogated authority away from the states, the ability to attempt to nationally codify one view of the morality of abortion.

It happened to be a profoundly immoral view. So these -- the fight now shifts to the states. And the pro-life activists. And all the 50 states. Especially, obviously in red states. Purple states. I mean, admittedly some blue states like New York and California, probably won't be able to touch them there.

But we have to make sure that our side is well positioned in the state Capitols for every red, purplish, probably even light blue state, to make sure we fight for successful, cogent, and morally consistent pro-life legislation. The state of Oklahoma, actually, just north of Texas. Right where you are now, Glenn. They have been leading on this actually. Governor Kevin Stitt signed into law, a fantastic pro-life bill there in Oklahoma. A few weeks ago. Maybe a month ago or so at this point, that basically just bans abortion straightforward from conception. And there are some -- you know, obviously, likable the mother. So forth. But we really need to start thinking about trying to craft legislation now, at the state level. But to your point, I do fear that the blue states will only double down in their radicalism. Unfortunately within that will only lead to an ever greater divide, in our country, that we have today. But obviously, at the end of the day. We're going to save at the end of the day, millions and millions of unborn children. We are going to save human beings who can grow up to cure cancer, who can win Nobel prices.

I mean, this is just a tremendous win for the human species. I don't know how to say it other than that.

GLENN: I will tell you, I saw the stat, that I think it was last year or the year before. 20 percent of all pregnancies ended in abortion. 20 percent.

JOSH: Wow.

GLENN: That is -- that is a shocking number. And we do have our -- our work cut out for us. Because I -- I think that these states are going to double down. But I think, you know -- God doesn't waste anything. You know, there is no waste with God. Even the -- even the worst things that could possibly happen, turn out to be something good. You know what I mean? You're like, holy cow, how did that just happen.

And I think that evil is going to fully come unmasked. I'm telling you, Josh. I don't know how you feel about this. I think this could be the day of America's Kristallnacht. I can see these pro-life centers being burned to the ground today. They're calling for a night of rage around the country. I think evil is going to show itself. And that will scare the American people, hopefully.

JOSH: You know, I've been thinking about this a lot this week, actually. Because I've been bracing for a new kind of George Floyd summer of love, happening this summer. Coming to a city or suburb near you. Unfortunately, myself. Look, I live in Florida. I know, Glenn, you live in Texas. It is in moments like this, where I do think that where you live matters. And who your mayor is. Who your governor is, matters.

Because law and order and rioting and anarchy is not really a federal issue. It is to a limited extent. June 2020, Tom Cotton wrote this op-ed that was pretty controversial at the time.

I happen to agree with it. Where he said, quote, unquote, send in the troops. And there is some federal legislation from the reconstruction era that would justify that.

But most kind of quelling and quashing of anarchy does happen. Constitutionally speaking, at the state and local level. So at a moment like this, where I fear that you're probably not wrong. I take some solace. That Governor DeSantis is my governor. I think Texans should take some solace, that they are represented by -- by a Republican governor. The legislature there as well. So I -- I fear that you are right. I pray obviously, that no one -- it's hard.

I fear that it's something -- that something bad is happening. At the end of the day, of course. It does not mean that justices cannot do what they are supposed to do. So thank God they did that.

GLENN: So, Josh, have you looked into what the White House has been saying? The White House yesterday. In fact, do we have a clip of -- of this?

What the White House said yesterday, about the guns. And then they were turned to the -- the Scott us ruling, for Roe vs. Wade. Do we have that, please?

JOSH: Will the president accept this decision, even if he disagrees with it?

VOICE: I think it's going to come from the Supreme Court. So it's a decision we certainly are going to respond to. I'll leave it at that. Just like any other Supreme Court decision. Just like the one they did today on guns.

GLENN: So the White House won't say that they're going to accept it.

Which I don't think they will. They're talking now about taking doctors and moving them into places like Oklahoma or Texas, where abortions will be outlawed. And putting doctors on our military bases to perform abortions.

I mean, where does this go, when you have a government, that is in defiance of -- of one branch of the government?

JOSH: So there's a lot to unpack here. So we should start from first principles. The idea of judicial supremacy, and this is a peculiar thing, to say on a day like today, where such a pro-life victory has happened in Italy. But if we're going to be consistent here, the idea of judicial supremacy. The idea that the justices, have the sole and exclusive ability to interpret the Constitution for themselves. And no other Constitutional actor, in article one or article two, let alone the state. Has the ability to tentatively interpret it. That is erroneous. In fact, actually it was really Abraham Lincoln actually, who in the Dred Scott case, famously opposed judicial supremacy and flouted the Dred Scott ruling, at least as it pertains to everybody other than Dred Scott himself. I have actually argued, a former legal scholarship, in a law review article actually, that the Laconian view of how each branch of government should interpret the Constitution for itself, is correct.

Having said that. Having said that, there is a thing called prudence. And there is a thing called comedy. And in a moment like today, when it really does look like -- and I agree with you, that we are now bracing for riots through the streets. When the political rhetoric is at DEFCON one. When people are trying to assassinate Supreme Court justices. I think it would be -- at its bare minimum, a profoundly imprudent act. For the Biden administration, to try to undermine this ruling.

Now, what they might do, is they might try to kind of issue some kind of executive orders, or issue some regulations, that might try to kind of undermine it, at the edges here. But at the end of the day, the idea that this returns to the state. There's not really a whole lot they can do about that. Basically, at this point, throughout the country. Kentucky within West Virginia. Kansas. Whatever. If they want to go ahead and ban abortion, what can the Biden administration literally do about that? I mean, short of sending in the National Guard, to protect Planned Parenthood, if the state legislature of Kentucky goes ahead and bans it. There's not a whole lot they can do. And it's very difficult to envision a world, in which the Biden administration literally sends in troops to red states, to protect Planned Parenthood, if that state legislature goes ahead and bans it. So for practically speaking. This is a lot of tough talk and rhetoric. Obviously the campaign here in 2022. There's not really a whole lot that practically speaking, they can do to actually prevent red and purple states from enacting pro-life legislation.

GLENN: I'm glad to -- I'm glad to hear that. I know that they have been working on things. I mean, he has said, you know, there's executive orders, that I can employ. There are things that I can do. He's talked about a national public health emergency. Which I think is just -- is crazy. But I would hope, that the president would come out and say, we strongly disagree with this. And you're right. The court is not the end all. But the court did not end abortion. It just said, the people should decide. I think that's the best kind of court ruling, on any of it. The people should decide what this is. And send it back to the states. Josh, I thank you very much. Appreciate your time. Was there -- there was another ruling, that came out today. Was it important?

JOSH: Oh, no. In comparison to this. A total nothing burger. A 5-4 decision on Medicare reimbursement related. So nothing, honestly.

GLENN: Great. Thank you very much. Appreciate it, Josh. Josh Hammer, opinion editor for Newsweek. And the host of the Josh Hammer show.

GLENN: There are two things trending on twitter right now.

Number one is praise God.

Number two trend is Night of Rage.

Good verses evil.

Build up or tear down.

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The Supreme Court of the United States officially overturned Roe V. Wade, and the debate over abortion rights has been given back to the states. On this historic day, BlazeTV hosts celebrate the Supreme Court's incredible decision and take a look at some of the insane reactions as the left comes completely undone.

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Glenn Beck reacts LIVE to Roe v. Wade ruling: 'Lord, we are SORRY it has taken us this long'

I never thought that in my lifetime, I would see Roe v. Wade be overturned. But today, that day has come. The Supreme Court has voted 6 to 3 to return decisions about abortion to the states. But this fight isn't over. We are about to see good versus evil side by side. Many states will stand with the unborn. But others will become abortion mills. It's your turn to choose now, America!

Allie Beth Stuckey: 'Praise God, Roe v. Wade is overturned!'

I don't know about you, but I just had the most euphoric feelings. It almost seems too good to be true. I didn't think there was any way that this would actually happen, especially with all the backlash, intimidation, and violence toward the Supreme Court justices. And yet, here we are. Roe v. Wade has been overturned. This is an amazing day!

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We were live on the air when news broke of the Supreme Court decision to overturn Roe v. Wade.

Today, the Supreme Court of the United States overturned its controversial 1973 Roe v. Wadeopinion, concluding that there is no constitutional right to an abortion.

"The Constitution does not confer a right to abortion; Roe and Casey are overruled; and the authority to regulate abortion is returned to the people and their elected representatives," the syllabus of the decision reads.

As expected, the leftist outrage erupted instantaneously, fueled largely by the misinformed idea that overturning Roe v. Wade means abortion will be banned nationwide. But, as stated in the above-mentioned Supreme Court syllabus, the authority has actually been returned to individual states and their duly elected lawmakers.

One such misinformed leftist, Parkland shooting survivor Cameron Kasky, was infuriated that those awful Supreme Court justices "just voted to kill women." So he took to Twitter to urge people to go to the homes of said Supreme Court justices to "let them know how you feel."

"Go to the home of every Supreme Court justice who just voted to kill women. Let them know how you feel," Kasky tweeted.

The backlash was immediate:

Kasky decided to delete his original tweet because he is apparently "sick of republicans talking to [him]." But, unfortunately for Kasky, the internet is indeed forever:

Speaking from the White House, President Joe Biden dutifully helped spread the misinformation about the Supreme Court's decision to overturn Roe v. Wade, and took the opportunity to prompt voters to elect more Democrats in November so that Congress can write abortion protections into law. Did the president just let slip the real reason Congress hasn't made any effort to start writing such laws in the nearly two months since Justice Samuel Alito's draft opinion was "leaked" in early May?

Watch Glenn Beck and producer Stu Burguere discuss how Biden's speech reveals that Democrats are absolutely terrified of the upcoming midterm elections. Can't watch? Download the podcast here.

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